Allied Cycle Works Announces Limited Edition BC40

Sep 27, 2022 at 19:00
by Allied Cycle Works  


PRESS RELEASE: ALLIED Cycle Works

When ALLIED Cycle Works launched the BC40 mountain bike earlier this year, Payson McElveen was an integral part of the development. The team created a mountain bike that blends XC Race with Downcountry abilities, perfectly addressing the needs of Payson to conquer a diverse range of race courses and the trails around his hometown of Durango, Colorado. Building what he calls his dream bike, Payson gave it a custom paint scheme modeled after the gradient hues of the San Juan Mountains. Now this elite BC40 build with Payson’s paint job is available to everyone.

“The BC40 is very simply my dream bike,” said Payson. “It has the geometry I want, the suspension characteristics, the aesthetic, and of course, the light weight. If I were to design a mountain bike for my needs and goals, the BC40 would be it. I still can’t quite believe it’s real, honestly. I feel so fortunate to have the opportunity to ride it, race it, adventure on it, and to have played a small role in its creation.”


A Texas native, Payson relocated to Durango, Colorado, in 2012. Known as an epicenter of endurance mountain biking, he spends most of his time training there. Payson's BC40 paint scheme was inspired by the infamous and rugged San Juan mountains. A mountain range that forms the southern part of Colorado's Rocky Mountains and is touted as having some of the most diverse landscapes of any mountain range in the U.S. The beautiful but unusual hues created by the distinct geology of the San Juans influenced the colors of this actual one-of-a-kind piece of art on two wheels. When Payson first moved there, he found the mountain range incredibly intimidating, but it was the challenging terrain he needed to reach his potential as an athlete. "They've taught me enormous amounts about myself as an athlete and person. It's extraordinary to have those mountains and years of hard work reflected in this new mountain bike," said Payson.

Over two years in the making, the BC40 was designed for speed, agility, and beauty, painstakingly tested and refined, and made entirely in the United States with unparalleled precision and passion. A thoughtfully engineered modern cross-country machine mixed with an all-day trail sled, the BC40 features plush 120mm of front and rear travel combined with a second-to-none pedaling platform and progressive geometry delivers precise speed, handling, and tracking for the needs of the modern trail shredder.


Payson’s Limited Edition BC40 is an exact replica of his bike, complete with a SRAM Eagle XX1 AXS drivetrain, RockShox SID Ultimate Charger Race Day Remote fork, SID Luxe Ultimate Remote shock, Roval Control SL 29 XD carbon wheels, and Payson’s iconic San Juan custom paint job.

“We love the energy that Payson brings to the sport, on and off the bike,” said CEO Drew Medlock. “He inspires riders at all levels and adds a fresh creative dimension to everything he does. His Limited Edition BC40 is original like Payson and an expression of the Allied brand. This BC40 is a no-compromise build with the unique San Juan paint job that personifies the distinct layers of Payson’s personality. And every Limited Edition BC40 will come with a personal note from him.”

Payson’s Limited Edition BC40 is available to order now as a complete bike and frameset.




198 Comments

  • 77 1
 I'll ride at a replica pace of his, too. It's be a 1:5 scale, unlike the bike.
  • 110 63
 Just how many people will give up cycling because of the inflationary greed in this industry right now???? 1/2 of this industry needs to go bankrupt asap and get back to f'ing reality please.
  • 62 7
 I am not sure "industry greed" is the correct take away from this.
  • 25 16
 @dorkmire: Its a least part of it... companies saw they could raise their prices in 2020 and 2021 so they did.
  • 19 4
 @HB208: Agreed. The insight I am taking from this is that there is a market for a product like this, not that the "industry" is more greedy then any other industry . To me this is the equivalent of a $20k Pinarello Dogma: silly expensive, performance wise not worth it, but why not cater to the market that are prospective buyers with a limited run product?
  • 14 1
 @dorkmire: I also think that Pinarello is dumb AF though
  • 8 8
 @HB208: haha it is! But I should state the obvious, the price increase seen across industries from 2020 to 2021 wasn't really due to "greed"...i.e. Inflation, Manufacturing limitations, etc. not relevant to this article just your previous comment.
  • 14 0
 it is true that lots of $10-15k bikes are being purchased. the good news is that there are lots of affordable bikes that are total shredders. anyone who doesn't have the budget or interest to spend 5 figures on a bike will be well served by one of those affordable rigs instead.
there are kias, audis, ferraris and bugattis - the market provides something for everyone!!
  • 32 6
 You do realize that it is not a necessity to buy a $14K race bike replica right?
  • 13 2
 The reason I ride steel hardtails. Frames are $600 to $1,200.
  • 37 3
 If you click on the website, you will see "Affirm financing" under the purchase option. This is a huge part of the problem. A large swath of people are financing bikes they can't afford for long terms like they do for other big ticket items.

It will stop when too many people are over-leveraged and can't get financing anymore and some of these companies stop being able to sell bikes at these insane prices.

At the end of the day if you can't pay cash, or if you know you aren't able to pay off a loan in 6-12 months, find something cheaper to ride. Otherwise bend over and get killed on interest and be stuck paying for a bike that isn't worth anywhere near what you owe on it.
  • 5 0
 @carters75: just wait for the wave of bike repo's in the coming year(s)
  • 38 1
 @zerort: In Soviet Russia steel hardtail rides you.
  • 14 6
 @carters75: Or........ I have cash (not that this bike is my style) and CAN afford it, but know my money can make more money with other investments and responsibly leverage the 0% for 12 -18 mths. No all folks are financially illiterate.
  • 3 0
 @SATN-XC: Oof -- joke's on whoever has to recover value from those bikes
  • 7 9
 If the US wants to bring the manufacturing industry back home making unaffordable and niche stuff like this is the wrong way to do it.
  • 7 0
 @carters75: By the time the bike is paid off its outdated.
  • 5 3
 I wonder how much of the increased price for this frameset help pay Payson's salary?
  • 3 0
 @dorkmire: Yes and no, the demand shot through the roof and supply was constrained, so manufacturers could clear bikes at higher prices. I can't blame them for doing so, but they certainly were able to raise prices given the unique market.

Now that supply is back (maybe not for specific parts, but in general, you can go to a bike shop and find bikes), manufacturers are going to have a harder time trying to sell $7k gx builds.

I mean, hell, Canyon was just discounting their mountain bikes... that wouldn't have happened a year ago.
  • 5 0
 @blackthorne: If they sell these (which they will), how is that "wrong way to do it"? Yes...this is a crazy $$$ bike, but if they make it, folks buy it,...is it 'wrong' because you can't or do not chose to afford it?
  • 2 2
 @bman33: Yes.
  • 2 1
 @HB208: 100% sujective
  • 9 1
 Having half the industry go bankrupt so there is less competition and a greater oligopolic effect is not the answer.
  • 3 5
 @aquanut: Blame the companies that are gouging consumers.
  • 12 1
 @HB208: Gouging ONLY works if you are forced to buy something. We as bikers (riding grown up toys) are not being forced to buy anything. Create a bike company and charge as little as you like. Zero stopping you or anyone else from the same.
  • 6 0
 It doesn't matter that there are $12k bikes. People can buy them if they want to.

The real question is, can you get a decent bike for $2-4k? As long as you can get something with decent wheels, good suspensions, and a Deore drivetrain, you're gold.
  • 9 1
 What is something worth? Answer: what someone is willing to pay for it.

You understand that and the price of anything never should upset you.
  • 10 0
 @velotech 1/2 the industry would go bankrupt if everyone bought all the "value" bikes; we all know there's tons of great ones out there as reviewed in the value bike shootouts and many others on top of that. Thing is...people still buy the fancy ones so there will still be market for those people. I drive an 8 year old Ram 1500...doesn't mean I get annoyed that there's a $100k Ram 1500 TRX on the lot. Someone will buy it!....actually it's probably already sold before it landed on the lot!
  • 1 2
 @yupstate: I bet they sell less than a dozen of these bikes.
  • 21 6
 So we want MADE IN USA but whine like middle school girls when we're asked to PAY IN USA.
  • 5 4
 @singletrackslayer: Let me introduce you to GG: ridegg.com
  • 5 0
 @carters75: It won't stop "when too many people are over-leveraged and can't get financing anymore." There is a never ending supply of new people ready to trash their credit.
  • 4 1
 @blackthorne: I disagree, if the US is going to bring manf back on our shores it HAS to be for high-end stuff like this. Cheap manufacturing is better done where labor and cost of living is cheaper. People here in the US cannot afford to live off of manufacturing cheap(ish) stuff. Just like a waiter at a high-end restaurant can make a decent living but you can't feed a family working fast food.

Now whether this bike is worth it or not is a whole other issue but for people with vast amounts of disposable income, buying a $14k bike is nothing. Just like buying a porsche, $10k handbag, etc...
  • 1 1
 @carters75: What's the difference between this and a credit card purchase?
  • 5 2
 @carters75: "If you click on the website, you will see "Affirm financing" under the purchase option. This is a huge part of the problem. A large swath of people are financing bikes they can't afford for long terms like they do for other big ticket items."

Kinda like student debt...
  • 1 2
 @HB208: What was this bike priced in 2019?
  • 3 2
 @Scottycruz: This bike is $3k more than their XX1 AXS builds... because Payson
  • 1 1
 @salespunk: Think hard on that...Most of what we do or own is not a "Necessity"...Just look around the room you are sitting in ..
  • 1 0
 It has the made in USA 30% upcharge
  • 1 0
 @HB208: I think I’ve bought 9 bikes from Craig’s list and Pinkbike classified the last couple of years, and some of them are dandy’s. I love it.
  • 2 0
 @HB208: I remember two years ago or so the CDC put out a statement saying something like "NITRATE CURED MEATS ARE, LIKE, REAL BAD FOR YOU!" and we all groaned and said "GUUUUH... WE KNOOOOOW. Why do you think they are so delicious?! The Ninja turtles confirmed this decades ago!"

"Payson's custom painted pro model is eye-wateringly more expensive than the grotesquely expensive top end bike"...."We know! Your point? Those who can afford it will devour it like a hot slice of 'roni 'za."
  • 1 0
 @zerort: and if it is a singlespeed, all the better!
  • 2 1
 it is called inflation, although the clever governments manipulate the numbers to show low figures.
the out come is shown at the prices that hurt you the most (each of us individually).
  • 1 0
 @cbursi13: 2008 disagrees with you (as does 1929)
  • 1 0
 @dorkmire: It was more due the companies trying to offset lower supply on their side by increasing their margins. Sorry but it's the same that's happening in the car industry. Their costs didn't go up by 30-50% and dealer markups are record breaking. The same is happening hear. The price of raw materials didn't go up by 30-40%, nor did labor costs in Taiwan. Dolar is actually stronger than it was pre covid. The bikes should go up by 15-20% over 2 years. Instead they went up by 30% this year. I literally have seen some d2c entry models go 2300E-3000E in 2 days from a few companies.

Also are you telling me those prices will go down as costs go down? Not a chance. Companies forecast record profits soon too.
  • 1 0
 @zerort: those went up in price too
  • 1 0
 @salespunk: you do realize entry level bikes went up too? I've seen a few d2c entry level enduro bikes go in 1 week by 25%.
  • 3 1
 @bman33: ah yes because everyone who doesn't have investment money is illiterate. The next time you crash tell the nurse you are asking for more painkillers after the surgery that she's financially illiterate. I do well but I wont shit on people below me as an idiotic flex
  • 1 0
 @HB208: Canyon was discounting their bikes in their outlet all the times. Canyon also increased the price of their torque model by 25% this year. I've seen the price change day by day as I was just about to buy one and then their bike no longer was a good offer.
  • 1 1
 @Scottycruz: you can feed a family working fast food. Outside of US mcdonalds wages are way higher and not proportionally higher to the cost of living. In Denmark it's way up + you get lots of benefits since you know "communism". Also doesn't Whataburger or some other smaller chain in US pay way above minimal, offer career progression and good medical insurance?
  • 1 0
 @zerort: Steel hardtails aren't necessarily cheaper than than aluminium frames. Brands like On One do have some cheaper models though. But steel frames are easier to repair if you do manage to break them so it feels to me like I can stick to my current steel frame no matter what happens to it. So in the long run, they are indeed cheaper.
  • 2 1
 @HB208: GG the closest equivilent frame build 'only' has a price difference of less the $500...
  • 2 0
 @carters75: People have been financing bikes for a long time. Trek has had the Trek Card for years, 6mos same as cash and then all the interest on month seven. We were always encouraged to push the "Buy the bike you want for the rest of your life, who cares if it's $8k, you have six months to pay for it and it's got a lifetime warranty." Upsell, upsell, upsell. "If you're financing, get you some flashy $300 MAMIL slippers, $200 carbon pedals, $100 worth of carboner bottle cages, don't forget $75 worth of flashy lights, a $200 helmet, and $200 worth of kit." Once you toss in two free water bottles, they think they're getting the deal of the century, then you sell them a $250 fit.
  • 3 0
 @spaced: did a quick search for in-n-out burger job postings near where i live. they are paying starting wages $5.50 - $9.00 more than the state's minimum wage, offer 401k retirement eligibility, health insurance, dental insurance, vision insurance, life insurance, paid training, tuition reimbursement, paid time off and even profit sharing. the average manager salary is 74% higher than the US median income. since most managers tend to be people who have been in the company for several years, they're the folks who are more likely to be in the family-supporting time of their lives. If they're making almost double the US median income, i would say it is very likely they could support a family. if their spouse/partner works at in-n-out as a manger too, they'd be doing quite well in fact!
  • 3 0
 @Baller7756: Where are you getting this info from? "A large swath"? I'm sure there are some, but I know A LOT of riders, and not one of them has financed a bike. Some have purchased with a credit card, but have managed this like their other purchases and have paid them off.
I don't think the student debt crowd is the target for this bike.
  • 1 0
 @SATN-XC: these aren't securitized loans (e.g. with a car or a house). This is just a personal loan. You default, they don't come and repossess your bike. Just like if you default on your credit card payment, they don't come and grab that XBox you just bought with it. It just becomes derogattory credit, creditors will come after you, and you'll be fighting your bad credit rating (and paying for it) for a long time to come. But you'll still have your $14,000 bike in hand in theory.
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: Indeed. The last shop I worked at (Canada) was affiliated with a common third party finance company that a prospective buyer could apply to, specify our shop for the funds, and bob's your uncle. But hardly anyone did that. We only had a handful of successful applicants, many got turned down. Credit card is by far the pathway everyone is taking to a bigger ticket item. And though I don't think student debtors are the crowd looking at this, I think anyone serious enough about this bike isn't requiring a third party finance source.
  • 1 0
 @spaced: no, we are in agreement. You are just elaborating on my point. Thanks!
  • 2 0
 @rrolly: That was a quote from another commenter. I just added the Student Debt comment, because its another item that people cant afford, but often borrow money for... that they cant pay back.
  • 1 0
 @HB208: Overseas shipping costs increased by 72% during covid. I'd think that had something to do with it, since most parts and many bikes are shipped from Asia.
  • 1 1
 @TucsonDon: I'm sure they will lower prices now that the shipping situation is better... wait...
  • 2 1
 @carters75: OMG, I would never finance something like this. I'd never finance a bike purchase, or any other rapidly depreciating asset though. If you can't afford something, then sometimes you just can't afford it. Paying a lot more for it, by adding interest to the price doesn't make it more affordable.
  • 1 0
 @HB208: Yeah, would be nice. I do agree the prices are ridiculous. This has become a rich person's sport. Saddens me. I was just saying some upward pricing pressure did exist, but it's crazy now.
  • 1 1
 @TucsonDon: I agree that at the time, shipping costs were a huge thing. However, a bunch of shops put shipping surcharges on their bikes... specifically Specialized shops.

So they don't get to have their cake and eat it to... both raising prices for bikes due to shipping and then charging a shipping surcharge when you check out.

I've started losing interest in bikes because of this shit. I can afford nice bikes, but at this point, my money is better spent elsewhere. I already have a MTB, gravel, and road bike. I'm just going to chill for a while.
  • 1 1
 @HB208: so you 'lose interest in bikes' but you three bikes as noted and will 'chill..' and ride those I assume? So you are not losing interest in bikes?
  • 2 0
 @bman33: I mean interest in new bikes coming out. As in, I am not going to change bikes as frequently
  • 2 0
 @HB208: Went there a good while ago. Once you've got something you're happy with it, just ride the hell out of it.
  • 39 0
 $7,360 Frameset. Yikes!
  • 16 0
 Is that in Pesos?
  • 8 6
 Hand made American frame. I have seen one of these. The fit and finish is really nice. I am not sure if it is $7k nice but it is nice.
  • 7 0
 @jmhills: Ok, but they sell the frame with the fork for like $4,900... so you're paying a $2.5k premium to have the same bike as payson
  • 5 0
 Makes the WR1 Arrival look cheap at ~$4K USD for a frame only!
  • 8 0
 @HB208: No dog in this fight. I have no idea who Payson is. Even a frame and fork for $5k is too much in my book. I like the look and builds but not at those prices. Then again, I am a poor so...
  • 2 0
 @jmhills: I agree - it is too much. Its about the same as most brands now though unfortunately. Basically a $3,800 frame plus a $1,100 fork.
  • 3 0
 @HB208: That $1100 fork probably cost $200 to make...
  • 3 0
 @jmhills: My understanding is the blood sweat and tears come with this particular model. You can't put a price on that!
  • 18 0
 @foggnm: Yes you can. Its $14,000
  • 3 3
 @jmhills: $200 to make, 30% to the retailer, plus shipping costs, warehousing costs, warranty costs, wholesaler costs (if applicable), and now the profit doesn't seem so big now does it?
  • 6 2
 @HB208: who is Payson?
  • 5 0
 @ScreamingNarwhal: you cant get a complete arrival with north american made wheels and bars the the price of this frameset
  • 1 0
 Now imagine you live in a country next to Ukraine so your currency tanked just by being near. This frame now costs as much as a top spec Trek Session complete bike from 5-7 years ago.
  • 2 0
 @Three6ty: 2.134.400 pesos here my friend. But you should also add 50% taxes, so over 3 million pesos in my country (50 minimal salaries). Cheers
  • 27 0
 For $14k I want proof that Payson has longingly looked at and caressed every part the same way he did in the photo of him with the linkage.
  • 3 0
 They should simply add his bath water to the frame and be done with it
  • 3 0
 For $500 more can we get a used chamois to sniff? Please?
  • 24 0
 $14k? Nah, fam.
  • 4 0
 I couldn't even imagine spending that much on a bike. My wife and I make very good money and there is zero chance this would even cross my mind.
  • 8 1
 @HB208: you can get 90% of the bike for 40% of the cost. I’m sure these will find a great home in the garages of WalMart executives in and around Bentonville though.
  • 1 0
 @SangamonTaylor: Oh no, I agree. I think the BC40 is a rad bike... this replica is just crazy expensive.
  • 3 0
 Have you ever seen "Always Be My Maybe"? The main character was told by Keanu Reeves (playing himself) he needed to buy a Tom Ford suit to win his girlfriend back. He saw the price as he was trying on the suit and exclaimed "IT BURNS. TAKE IT OFF ME."

That is how I felt when I clicked the link to Allied's website. Closing it as carefully as I could to make sure I didn't accidentally order it.
  • 1 1
 @HB208: Yeah it makes no sense. I'd rather spend extra to have a better holiday, on other bike gear or just invest. I'd have to have mad disposable income to do it. Dunno maybe 5mil/year after taxes? Then yeah you dont care.
  • 2 0
 @spaced: If I made $1M after taxes a year, I am sure I wouldn't care. $14k is a rounding error at that point.
  • 2 0
 @HB208: Exactly. It's all relative. If you're low income, spending more than $500 on a bike is absurd.
  • 13 0
 Allied will do any custom paintjob you want them to do (within certain limits) for less money than this particular frameset.

If you're going to spend this kind of money, might as well get something unique unless you absolutely love Payson's design.
  • 5 0
 but it comes with a note from Payson!
  • 9 0
 @SATN-XC: does the note say "lol" ?
  • 13 1
 14k! I'll be there's not one person here who can give a facts based response to justify that fucking insane price. Quite frankly disgusting
  • 15 2
 Don't let yourself get disgusted by this. Who really cares what it costs if you're not going to buy it.
  • 6 0
 One justification: His thank you notes are next level. I’ve never felt so thanked.
  • 3 0
 But it has two water bottle mounts!
  • 1 0
 @AlejoBeletadpQ: Buying factor NUMERO UNO for the people who want to go far and long.
  • 14 0
 I want a Hambini review of this frame!
  • 13 0
 It ain’t cheap, so you’ve got to Pay Son!
  • 3 0
 You get it.
  • 8 0
 Holy balls, that's an expensive bike. I could buy an enduro motorcycle, licens it, guy gear and insurance and still have money left over for a week long trip to the northwoods, where it'd likely get stuck in a marsh, and still have $50 to go to a bar and look like some clown that has no reason to own an enduro. It is a good looking bike though.
  • 2 0
 @oldschool43: you know we won't hold it against you if you get girl gear.
  • 1 2
 Or buy an Ebike Smile
  • 10 0
 "blends XC Race with Downcountry"

Does this mean we are back to regular XC?
  • 2 0
 68 degree head angles and 100mm of travel ftw! XC ain't dead.
  • 7 0
 Funny that 98% of the cycling population of Durango, CO would not be able to afford this bike.
Payson included if he had to buy one for retail......

Should have been called the Silicon Valley Special.
  • 1 0
 And anyone in durango would be laughed out of town if they showed up to a group ride on this bike
  • 2 0
 Is it really worth it having a AXS dropper on a Pedal oriented /weight bike? Seems rather unncesesary. Altho i personally have one on my enduro bike and its is really good. Compared to anything ive had before.

Thanks in advance
ISC
  • 2 3
 AXS droppers on lightweight XC bikes? Half the pro XC racers seem to be using them, super reliable, easy to work with, not much of a weight penalty.

Plus if it breaks during a race you just lift it out and pop a new one in.
  • 1 1
 @HankHank: Super reliable? I do follow pro races a lot. on CapeEpic AXS dropper mulfunction. on XCO race there was mulfunction. on latest XCM wold champs 2022 Jordan Sarrou had AXS dropper mulfunction. Tell me more about how it is reliable, when I see so many failures on items, that are taken care by profi service men ...
  • 1 0
 @Strenki: *when compared to other Rock Shox dropper options*
  • 1 0
 @Strenki: don't ask me, ask Nino, or Richards, or the hundreds of other pros using them. I would expect their answer would be there's no cables that could get snagged or hydraulics to bleed, the actuation is instant, and of the bike testers who have seen it all (Kesteven, etc), they've given it a thrashing and can't find issues.

You really think so many elite athletes would risk their careers 'for the sponsors' when they could just use unbranded other options, like the DH crowd taking a Sharpie to some Maxxis tires?
  • 1 0
 @HankHank: BRO THEY USE IT BECAUSE AXS IS THE TOP TIER SRAM LINE. pro HAVE to use it. Its not optional...
  • 1 0
 Let’s also assume they get a new or fully rebuilt dropper before every race.
  • 1 0
 @BikesBoatsNJeeps: of course, same with any brand, that playing field is level in the pro pits.

@Ignaciosc22: exactly, it's the top tier model which the majority of the pro field has backed, what's your point?

Cherry picking AXS failures is a lazy argument. There's stories of people going through 3+ lefty forks in a single Swiss Epic, or Enve rims breaking routinely in the DH, but at some point the market is going to show you where the good products are.
  • 6 1
 While the more than predictable PB comments grow, those who own a BC40 are quietly riding and smiling.
  • 4 0
 And getting those heartfelt personal thank you notes framed
  • 2 0
 @emptybe-er: You can also get a standard non note version ya know. While I think the limited edition is pretty. and that he's a great rider, the note and limited edition do nothing for me. I built mine up from the frame.
  • 1 0
 @numbnuts1977: Yeah it looks quite appealing. The notion of a note almost ruins it though..
  • 2 0
 I work in the factory right across the street from Allied.(which nobody cares) Anyway cool bikes. I see guys around Bentonville riding them. But for that price I bought my brand new Transition Spur and Guerrilla Gravity enduro bike for less money. And the Guerrilla gravity is made in America
  • 4 2
 Lot of comments proclaiming the price is ridiculously high, greed, "worth", this, that, and the other thing.

Worth, what someone can pay, what someone will pay, one's personal resources and priorities...they're all as individual as we are. It's ok to state you wouldn't ever buy this bike and it's not "worth" it, but that's all about you. Not me. Or the people who buy this bike. You don't have to sound so condescending when letting us know what you prefer. I wouldn't buy a Ferrari 458 Italia, but I certainly won't tell anyone they shouldn't buy one or that it's not worth it. Because it is to them. In the end it's self-regulating...if they don't sell any then Allied knows they missed their mark, lesson learned by them with no harm to you.

I learned quickly at the last shop I worked at that a Pinarello Dogma is a lot of money. In fact, a lot of bikes are a lot of money. And that there are people who want to buy them, for many reasons. And I saw a lot of different bikes that offered different, varying levels of "value"...but not worth. When someone sees the bike they want and they can make the ownership happen, who am I? I'm the person who's happy there's something out there that makes this person happy and that I can facilitate that. Whether it's a Spesh Rockhopper w/Tourney or a Factor O2 w/Dura Ace. So hat's off to Allied for producing a bike they wanted to make and high five to anyone who acquires one, report back with first impressions.
  • 2 0
 Hello PB. Can you please focus more effort on reporting on bikes that a regular person is more likely to afford please? Less than $5k Canadian. Maybe up to 7k for some. A lot of the bikes presented here are way to expensive.
  • 3 0
 great looking bike! at that price though, bike should come with an invitation to a MTB training session hosted by Payson instead of a note.
  • 4 0
 No weight listed for the bike again. That should be mandatory for articles on bikes. Wink
  • 2 0
 Or at least for all pedal-oriented bikes with price tags that rival years of college education
  • 7 6
 All these comments on the price are hilarious. Unless you ride a bike from Walmart, most people think that what you spent on your bike is absurd. Honestly if you spent over $1k on a bike, you are probably in the 0.1% of the world population. $5k or $15k are equally silly amounts to spend on a recreational toy. The difference between the 2 prices is a fraction of the disposable income for these customers.
  • 4 0
 You aren’t wrong. My last bike cost ~$8k two years ago and when I bought it from the store, I joked with the owner that my next bike would likely cost $10k. He didn’t even bat and eyelid and said, yeah probably.

I think I underestimated how much it will actually cost.
  • 1 2
 The problem is this is a bike from Walmart. The Waltons own Allied
  • 2 0
 @swcarter: Problem? First off, Walmart doesn't own Allied, a company owned by the Walton's does. And second, have you seen what the Walton's have done for mountain biking? Bettonville is off the hook amazing riding and they have pumped so much money into the area and we get to ride there free! If they do for bikes what they did for bike riding, I say you're crazy to complain.
  • 1 0
 I’ve been working in the bike industry for 24 years now. I’m now wondering how some people will even be able to afford to start mountain biking. Imagine dipping your toe into mountain biking and seeing £10k+ bikes. A lot of the manufacturers have put the prices up again this month, on bikes that aren’t available yet until next year. No doubt they will go up again before they arrive in store. I bought a brand new motorbike this year that cost less than my mtb. Since 2020 that motorbike has gone up a whopping £200. An mtb I sold my friend at the end of 2020, has gone up £1400.
I can buy a custom built rear shock for my motorbike for my weight, with a spring for almost half the retail of a mass produced off the shelf Fox, that I then have to buy a spring for. I think it’s now, let’s just slap a ridiculous price tag on it and see how many idiots are willing to drop their hard earned cash on it. I feel my rant may have went off topic, anyways, that is not a nice looking bike in my eyes. Definitely not worth $14k
  • 2 0
 Shades of vintage Klein on that paint.

That’s a good thing.

Wish more companies would offer brighter and more interesting paint jobs.
  • 4 0
 It looks like the top tube would break in the event of a fart.
  • 5 0
 Username checks out
  • 1 0
 @mechaNICK: 2 in the pink…
  • 4 0
 7500 for a frameset? sheeeshhh
  • 2 0
 Cool that there's a special "pro edition" colorway, but I'd just take the frame + fork combo and a paint job from Made Rad by Tony and be ahead cost wise.
  • 1 1
 hope that this means Allied is paying Payson minimum 6-figures (ie 15 frames worth). For xc domestic guys who can’t make it in world cups, would be cool if gravel/endurance could still offer a living riding bikes.

& Gravel/endurance is the perfect space for this ridiculous price point. If you can ride you should be riding trails on a more capable bike anyway.
  • 3 0
 What most people probably don't know is that guys like Payson and Keegan Swenson are actually probably making more money combining mtb/gravel in the states than guys/gals racing wc at a top level. The lifetime events actually have a decent payout and are filled with ex pro tour roadies and guys that used to race competitively.
  • 1 0
 @tgr9: Agree except if by "top level" you mean on the podium at WCs - they they aren't making the same/year. Maybe just in prize money, but not when you factor in big sponsorships. But ya I'm sure Keegan Swenson makes a lot more money than people who travel around racing WCs without any results.

Would be interesting to compare earnings overtime too where you can obviously stay in the money into your 50s at your local gravel event, and only Nino can race WCs at 40.
  • 3 1
 Spend all the moneys on AXS dropper and rear mech, and then get a cable-actuated remote lock out….
  • 1 0
 And what do you propose? Live valve? Nope, been there, hope you REALLY like wires. Flight attendant? Not designed for XC racing. Honestly, if this is your only complaint you've proved Allied nailed it :-)
  • 1 0
 @numbnuts1977: Lol. Yup, totally proved it….
  • 11 8
 Uhh.... Who's Payson McElveen?
  • 10 0
 red bull XC guy. US nat champ. Rode across Iceland on a bike. did a pretty epic ride in the last Matchstick bike movie.
  • 4 1
 Exactly. Unless you follow Marathon races and/or live in the USA, I doubt many even know who he is. With that being said, he is a great MTBiker, but I don't think many are out there clamoring for a Signature bike from him, aside from all the dentists who don't like Yeti's.
  • 4 0
 @Three6ty: He's honestly bigger in the gravel scene now. I consider him more of a pro gravel rider than a pro MTBer
  • 30 0
 He's Allied's new marketing campaign after the last guy didn't work out.
  • 1 0
 @bikewriter: he was on Trek and rode a Top Fuel. Allied must have given him a better deal somehow?
  • 4 0
 "He's Allied's new marketing campaign after the last guy didn't work out. "

@bikewriter: REKT
  • 3 7
flag slayerdegnar (Sep 28, 2022 at 13:12) (Below Threshold)
 gravel biker who doesn't really mtb
  • 6 0
 @slayerdegnar: apparently you haven’t seen him ride.
  • 1 0
 @hellanorcal : The last guy being Colin Strickland whose mistress murdered his pro-cyclist girlfriend?
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 @bikewriter: The last guy being Colin Strickland whose mistress murdered his pro-cyclist girlfriend?
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  • 2 0
 @eteyber: other way around. His girlfriend murdered his pro cyclist side piece.
  • 4 0
 Ridiculous pricing.
  • 1 0
 Sign me up on the not buying list nor any bike at this time. The bike industry pricing standards need to get wrecked and taco’ed.
  • 3 0
 Nice but at that price it should be.
  • 3 0
 Yeah, but how does it compare to the Spur?
  • 3 0
 Ahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahaahaha!!
  • 4 2
 Just get a Supercaliber!!
  • 14 0
 JUST DON'T BE POOR
  • 1 0
 Yep! I did that last October. 9.7 model, slightly used for $4,200 felt right. With patience, I upgraded the fork and I had some XT rotors sitting around. I'm not racing but I like the feel of the bike compared to my 2014 Giant Anthem. I'm happy and I didn't pay $10K for a good bike. Anyway, some like Miatas, some like Corvettes and other people are into Italian and German fast cars. It's all about, patience, wisdom and discernment... OR just buy into the credit dream and find out what a nightmare it is.
  • 5 1
 Did, got a BC40 to replace it.
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 Who TF is Payson Mcsomething ?
  • 11 9
 he's humble, capable, determined and the type of personality the community needs for role models. I'm sure he won't punch someone on the gut for getting champagne at a podium ceremony... Anyway, you'll be pleasantly surprised to find out Who TF Payson is.
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 @KoffeeAndMTBz: Oh Jesus, climb down off your cross. I know a lot of people like that. It doesn't mean that I'm going to pay extra for a bike because of them.
  • 7 2
 @KoffeeAndMTBz: Well many of the one night standers he's had around Durango might have a different opinion about that.
  • 1 2
 @slayerdegnar: oh dang, I didn't know the boy was getting so much tail, that's probably cause he's a charming ___hole then....
  • 1 1
 @packfill: climbing down from that cross, going straight under my rock. Nobody has to pay extra for anything just because a company is charging for it...
  • 1 3
 @RogerMexico: You're probably right, muchacho. He's probably an arrogant vato. He knows how to hide it.
  • 1 0
 He is bad ass, who seems like a nice guy after my only brief chit chat with him at the last race we were in "together". He's the type of guy that, should he not know who you are would type your full name correctly when asking......
  • 3 0
 Expensive but lovely.
  • 2 0
 Geo looks dialed. I'll bet that's a FUN bike to ride.
  • 1 1
 Let's hope! Fun and fast, not an easy thing to accomplish on an XC race bike. Excited to ride mine! :-P
  • 2 0
 @numbnuts1977: It’s all relative. If fun is pedaling across Iceland and fast is 10-15 mph, you’re gonna love it.
  • 3 1
 Maybe I'll buy a $9,000 moto and a $5,000 MTB instead.
  • 4 3
 Pretty forested road in last shot. Perfect for that bike.
  • 2 0
 Isn't that what gravel bikes are for?
  • 1 0
 haha, nice.
  • 1 0
 need custom paint on the fork at that price!
  • 1 0
 Tell me again how it is one-of-a-kind if it is now a production model?
  • 2 1
 How many world cup winning Scott/Specialized can you get for 14K?
  • 2 1
 1.2 SWorks Epics, or 1.3 Scott Sparks. Don't pretend any comparison you're making at this level represents a value option.
  • 3 4
 Who? Allied bikes? I feel you should be a bit more present in the global scene of you're gonna ask that much for a cookie-cutter XC frame.
  • 1 0
 $14k It’s not April 1st right? What a bad joke!
  • 1 0
 Only $7k for a frame? Sign me up for two STAT!
  • 1 0
 $14k and no motor? Eff that!
  • 1 0
 At least make it look good if you're going to charge $14k
  • 1 0
 Its not worth that price
  • 1 0
 It's a Canyondale





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