2013 Banshee Rune
Banshee Rune details:• Rear wheel travel :160mm
• Interchangeable dropouts: 26" w/ 135mm,
12x142mm, 12x150mm or 650B w/ 12x142mm
• 3-position adjustable geometry
• Hydroformed 7005 T6 construction
• 44-56mm tapered head tube
• KS Link Suspension: short one-piece forged
links w/ sealed bearings
• ISCG-05 chain guide tabs
• Dropper post cable routing
• Internally ribbed seat and chain stays
• FOX Float CTD custom tuned shock
• Optional Cane Creek DBair shock available
• Colours: blue, black anodized and raw
• MSRP: $1999 USD including Fox Float CTD Shock
| With three different axle spacings, three geometry settings and two wheel size options, the Banshee Rune is the most versatile bike that we have ever made. It has been designed for all-mountain riding and Enduro DH racing. With a 65 degree head angle in the slackest setting, the 160mm travel Rune instills supreme confidence on the descents, yet pedalling performance has not been sacrificed for downhill speed - the Rune will get you up the climbs with energy to spare. If you're looking for a bike that can truly do it all, then look no further than the Rune. It really is one bike to rule them all. - Jon Hadfield, Banshee Bikes sales and marketing manager |
The Rune features Banshee's all-new KS Link suspension platform, first seen on the Prime 29er. KS Link suspension features fully sealed, oversized bearings throughout for reliability and low maintenance. The Rune has an extremely plush suspension feel due direct shock actuation which results in minimal DU bushing rotation. This gives the rider better traction thanks to the suspension’s ability to react faster to changes in the riding surface and also results in a smoother overall ride. The short one-piece forged linkages make the Rune extremely stiff and responsive to small inputs from the rider. Banshee have worked extensively with Fox to offer custom tuned shocks specifically optimized for the Rune and with Cane Creek to provide an excellent base setting for their outstanding DBair shock.
The Rune also features Banshee's new modular dropout system which offers 3-position adjustable geometry. The dropouts utilize ‘flip chips’ to alter the head angle in half degree increments and also change the BB height in quarter inch increments. Dropouts for 26" wheels are available in 135 QR, 12x142mm bolt-thru, and 12x150mm bolt-thru. If this isn't enough adjustability, the Rune can also be specced with 650B compatible dropouts (
in the 12x142mm size) that allow you to explore the benefits of this new wheel size. Other features include a 44/56mm tapered head tube which allows the use of a zero stack lower headset cup, even with a tapered fork steerer for reduced stack height. There are also ISCG-05 chain guide mounts, a Low Direct Mount S3 front derailleur, and cable guides for dropper posts. Chain and seat stays are internally ribbed for increased stiffness, and 7005 T6 aluminum is used throughout with custom hydroformed tubes and forgings.
GEOMETRY- 26" wheels • Sizes: Small, Medium, Large, Extra Large • Head Tube Angle: Adjustable - 65º // 65.5º // 66º • BB Height: Adjustable - 340mm/13.4" // 347mm/13.65" // 353mm/13.9" • Chain stay Length: Varies with Geometry Setting - 429mm/16.9" // 426mm/16.8" // 422mm/16.7" • Effective Seat Angle: Varies with Geometry Setting - 73.5º // 74º // 74.5º • Seat tube Length: 395mm/15.5" // 430mm/16.9" // 470mm/18.5" // 508mm/20" • Toptube Length: 562mm/22.1" // 584mm/23" // 610mm/24" // 635mm/25" • Wheelbase: 1129mm/44.5" // 1154mm/45.4" // 1180mm/46.5" // 1206mm/47.5" | GEOMETRY- 650B wheels • Sizes: Small, Medium, Large, Extra Large • Head Tube Angle: Adjustable - 65º // 65.5º // 66º • BB Height: Adjustable - 350mm/13.8" // 357mm/14.05" // 363mm/14.3" • Chain stay Length: Varies with Geometry Setting - 439mm/17.3" // 436mm/17.2" // 432mm/17.1" • Effective Seat Angle: Varies with Geometry Setting - 73.5º // 74º // 74.5º • Seat tube Length: 395mm/15.5" // 430mm/16.9" // 470mm/18.5" // 508mm/20" • Toptube Length: 562mm/22.1" // 584mm/23" // 610mm/24" // 635mm/25" • Wheelbase: 1139mm/44.9" // 1164mm/45.9" // 1190mm/46.9" // 1216mm/47.9" |
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It's called the "Cascade Rain-shadow" and untill you've experienced it you've never SEEN rain fall this hard or long. I know what you mean about the constant grey skies in the UK, but having been born in the North of Scottland (inverness) and spending a LOT of time there I've never seen a rain storm like what we get all fall/winter long here (this weekend it was raining so hard the water was bouncing 2 FEET in the air after hitting the ground). Yes we get a form of summer, and maybe we even get more sunny days, but we get more average rain fall yearly too. It's because of our topography that we have the climate we do. The UK is so comparitively flat that storms just move across the land in a way that doesn't hapen here. It's pretty crazy to have a desert climate just the other sides of the Cascades, but WEST of the Cascades... totally different story. It also has to do with the storm tracks we get coming down from Alaska and since we live on the side of the biggest body of water in the world Oh AND we get many many FEET of snow which is just frozen rain.
Where i live gets about double the national average and in places like Kerry they get 3 times the national average. For example, here it averages 2800mm/110 inches of rainfall a year, that is 2.5 times wetter than Seattle and thats just on average. This year it is probably going to be closer to 4000mm/160inches and this isnt even the wettest part of the country.So basically all the good places to ride bikes, hike, climb, kayak are way rainier than the national average. So your rainy places are just a little bit wetter than our national average and way less so than our rainy areas I think my original statement was accurate.
God why am i so intent on depressing myself? Why cant i agree with you and pretend its not actually that wet here haha.
@Samsemtex: Sorry I assumed you hadn't lived here, clearly I was wrong aye. YES, we had a VERY nice summer this year, but also a very uncharetaristic one at that. I cant remember the last time it was this sunny and warm for this long, but hey I'm not complaining I know what you mean about "averages" too, when you look at the maps of Oregon and Washington you see a LOT of yellow and orange then you get over Portland and Puget Sound and it's all dark blue and Purple (meaning heavy rain)... I'm in a little place here too tht get's this wierd "Rain shadow within a rain-shoadow" too kind of what yu;re refering to where you live. Our place down near the coast get's it's own little rain shadow and see's almost 175-200" of rain a year, the mountains are just high enough and there are all these little draws and it just SUCKS in the rain.... SO bloody WET, but when it's sunny... OH baby is it gorgeous.
Let's just both, for the sake of not depressing our-selves, declare that we both live in WET ASS PLACES "more wet" at this point is just a matter of who's standing farther out in the pond aye I like to think it makes us better riders hahahahahahahaha.
@the medic just so you know we literally havent had any nice weather since i made my last comment. Its 7 degrees and pissing rain again as it has done all of april and May. Ive been home 6 months now and have not seen one sustained period of good weather. Cattle are still indoors because land is too wet and there is no grass growth. Its may!!!
Frame looks superb and angles look great.
Seriously, who cares about 650b if the main link is gonna loosen up permanently in a few months? Never. Again. Rocky Mountain Rules!
www.pinkbike.com/news/Zerode-G-1-Gearbox-DH-Frame-2012.html .... this will be the future of mountainbike frame and gearing!!!! Can wait for their AM Carbon Fiber Rig!!!!!!
THe Blackmarket Roam uses them for the same use. Other brands like Scott and Intense (and a few more I'm sure I can't think of) use them as well, but NOT to give you mutiple wheel options which is what I'm extremey excited about. It's such a simple design (not to nock the designer or enineer, it's still smart thinking) but it makes this frame (and the ROAM as well) SUCH a great option for those riders who eaither can't afford or can't have multiple bikes for whatever reason. With geo like this and 160mm of travel this bike really is fully "DO IT ALL" bike aye. I assue the frame is built beefy enough to handle some park riding, I hope it is cause if I choose to build one of these up (it just made my top 3 choices as of right now and it's rising in that list more and more) it WILL be seeing some time in Oregon's famous FR spots.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/8946157
I'm gonna have to make up one of those little build collages. Did you just do it in PS??? My new laptop is lacking so I thik all I have is MS paint hipefully it'' work aye... You've inspired e to see what kind of color combos I want cause this bike is pretty much top of my list right now.
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/8950249/
Exactly the kind of bike I would like to try, because it looking to be a real bike, made with sense (not just a commercial or marketing sense) and made for real ride and real fun.
This video is great. I love the vital stats being given at the start, really a good idea. Thumbs up for the video. Thumbs down for the plate gusset at the top/seat tube junction.
Thumbs up for the adjustability at the dropout, thumbs down for the industrial appearance of it. They could have made it look cleaner me thinks.
Still, it looks like a great bike. I think it will ride well.
Carbon fiber (and its matrix) are oil-based products. In everage the price of oil rises.
So unless they find brilliant new processes, like using robots and stuffs, i don't really see the price of carbon frames dropping. I hope I'm wrong though!
That's old news you're posting here. What about the weight? The one of the proto was scarry (frame alone way higher than a V10c with coil shock (I know, frames don't have the same price point, but I don't want a frame heavier than the one I have, same category, and my Slayer is all but light). Projections for production were more reasonable. So what's the final story? I know weight isn't everything. But it still counts.
the 'open' gusset simply shows the design engineer knows what he is doing, as anyone who knows K.S. will attest to
'closing' that gusset by welding along the sides creates stress risers, adds weight (extra gusset plate area and weld rod) and extra heat (bigger HAZ) to the tube set, all of which are unwanted
what has surprised me more over the years, is the number of companies who DO fully weld their gussets for aesthetic reasons, which goes against proper engineering practise in terms of structural design
its not, if you study engineering!!
welding the side faces of a structural gusset adds nothing but stress risers and extra weight, and weakens the welded junction by introducing more heat to the tube set, regardless of whatever heat treatment (typically T6) you apply post-weld
I did not spend 4 years at University building and testing prototype aluminium-alloy heat-treated full suspension frames for no-reason, just to be clear about this issue
So are the "tubular" gussets on Specialized frames such as the Demo, among others, Engineering mistakes? I am in no way trying to be disrespectful-- Just asking.
Ok, what you're saying makes sense and I'm glad you chimed in. I'm sure the gap that he has left between the tubing joint weld and the gusset is no mistake either. I can see the open gusset being beneficial because you could weld your tubes together and come in after the fact and add your gusset while keeping the gusset welds just the right distance away from the joint so that the two HAZs don't overlap. Pretty wise I must say.
good point about the Specialized frames, that really surprised me when I first started selling them and noticed that gusset style, it went against everything I had been taught and seen on many frames
the point of not welding the right angle faces (fore and aft) of the gusset is that you introduce a stress riser (penetrating weld bead) into the tube exactly where you are trying to reinforce the welded junction. the function of the gusset is to add strength along the length of the tube, not cutting across the tube
I was taught about gusset design during my industrial design degree (focused on suspension frame design) starting way back in 1992; we were taught by a very respected mechanical engineer who had worked for Japanese Motorbike companies fabricating aluminium alloy road race bike chassis
you would see the correct gusset on early boutique brands like Turner and AMP, and its good to see that Keith (Banshee) knows his engineering and has followed this principle correctly
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#2 The difference from 26er to 650B is not as noticeable a jump as 26er to 29er, but that's why it appeals so well to so many users. They don't NEED or WANT a 29er... but they're tired of being limited by 26ers. Think goldilocks... its not too small, its not too big... its just right.
#3 Exactly HOW much actual riding time do you have on 650B x 2.3 tires? or any 650B tires ?
Kenda is going to be the first other 2.0 offering, but not until 2013 models are shipping when they do a version of the Karma. But they're not available right now to anyone but OEM manufacturers.
I guess I read this wrong.
My first advice is to buy an accurate metric tape measure...
27.5" tires are 30.0mm larger in diameter than comparable 26" tires.
29" tires are 60.0mm larger in diameter than comparable 26" tires.
Look at this picture- farm8.staticflickr.com/7036/6810916652_cbf79f17df_b.jpg
The Mega Moto is on the left, the Neo Moto is in the center, and the quasi moto on the right. Saying that you will not feel a difference between it and a 26" tire is just plain incorrect.
I actually have the same bike(Santa Cruz Butcher) setup 26" and 27.5". I have the same wheels(Velocity P35 26' vs Velocity P35 27.5") with the same Kenda 2.35" tires as well as the same Saint brake rotors 203mmF 165mmR mounted to both sizes just so I could ride both back to back on the same trails within minutes of each other..........I'm not drinking the 650B Kool Aid (like so many did with 29er) I am actually testing and timing
26 x 2.3s are NOT the same diameter or air volume as 650B x 2.1, nor is a 650B x 2.3 the same as a 29 by anything, well maybe a 29 x 1.9 in volume, but definitely not in diameter. They DO teach how to calculate volumes of cylinders in grade ten math in canada... have you made it that far yet?
650B are barely any more difficult to manual or jump than 26" wheels. Did you skip watching/reading any of the 2012 Redbull Rampage coverage? Logan Binggeli who placed third, did it with a final run that had TWO backflips during it, on the KHS 650B DH bike. Aaron Gwin announced in an interview a few weeks ago that he's already testing and will be racing select events next year on a tire size larger than 26" diameter... and Kirk Pacenti has already revealed that there are new 650B DH/AM tires from Bontrager... which would not have been made if Trek didn't plan to be adopting the wheels, and having their top rider using them.
You really have no idea what you are talking about...A 27.5"(650b) X 2.3 is nothing like running a 29"
A 29" is hard to manual mostly do to the BB drop usually 2+ inches below the axle
You can actually run a 27.5' X 2.3" with the exact same geo as a 26"
How do I know...because I just setup my butcher on 650B and my plan is to try them on my DH bike also.
Please see my blog on my initial thoughts of the conversion
There is no conspiracy among manufacturers to sell people things that aren't needed...though there is a general acceptance around the industry that CONSUMERS and RACERS alike have woken up to the facts that the sport pioneers knew firsthand 40 years ago, and that is that twenty-six inch wheels should never have been adopted in the first place. They should have been a niche segment tire size, and that's it. All mountain bikes should have been built around a larger format from the start.
Its funny to me that on pinkbike, which tries to present itself as one of the most progressive forums for mountain biking, there are so many members who are so anti-everything that they'll do anything to get their way, even if that means slinging dirt at people/brands they previously praised because they're now leading the sport in a direction that these sheep don't want to follow.
Really love the new Banshee-Design. Geometry is spot-on, the adjustability and 650B-Option is outstanding at the moment and the first Riding-Impressions of some Customers gave huge Praises to the KS-Link.
It seems to work best with a shorter fork (140-150mm), people who have ridden it with a 160mm fork, tend to change to a shorter fork to make it work on the climbs.
I tried one and thought it was very very nice, it had a 150mm fork on it.
Few question :
- DU Bushing on shock yes but you should read why ( almost no rotation)
-Cheap pivot hardware. have you get a banshee frame in you hand? ( The legend is probably the only DH frame with TI axle hardware)
-Price point are you kidding ??,
-aesthetics Sorry I'm laughing but such comment coming from someone riding without jersey over his chest protector THIS IS UNFINISHED!
You guys must have a closer look to the frame, riding it instead of car park testing before talking crap...
Banshees are very nice and would love to try a Legend or Spitfire.
I hope it is the riders riding position and not the bike/frame that was forcing him to ride like that!
Seemed that he was scared to get over the front and take control of the front wheel to smash the trail.
here: www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Exclusive-First-Look-The-All-New-2013-Banshee-Rune,4150/Slideshow,0/bturman,109
What to moan about next... the weather... nah, just got wet today.
I love the idea of an adjustable bike, 1 bike to ride all the time.
I loved my first Full bouncer, the Marin Attack trail. Had the normal and alpine links.
Shame they never made a burlier version.
Its too bad because I really like this frame, but Banshee left me high and dry twice in two years.
@spaced- look at slope bikes, they run 68-69 head angles all day long. Running the Uzzi in the 67* setting makes it nice and nimble, feels like a plush slope style bike. I think people are just too worried to get high centered at speed and plow instead.
Don't feed the troll they say.
Banshee is awesome for doing that with the old frames.
On the other hand more and more are shouting for Carbon and are willing to pay additional 500-800 or even more - I assume that would be greater Value?
Rune with CCDB Air is under 1800 Euros, with Fox CTD under 1700 Euros - sounds really fair to me ...