Video: 9 to 12 Year Olds Absolutely Destroying on the New Commencal Clash Kids Bikes

Jun 20, 2019 at 6:27
by COMMENCAL bicycles  


PRESS RELEASE: Commencal Bicycles

Everyone has their reasons for riding bikes...

Sporty people who want to excerpt themselves, to get fit or to clear their heads.
The true racers who want speed and performance.
Adventurers who never cross the same path twice.
There’s those who strive for style and stomping tricks, on the ground or in the air.
Whatever the reason you like to be on your bike, you've always liked to share it with someone.
First of all with your parents. Then in a group of friends. Perhaps even with your soulmate.


And eventually maybe with your child.
At first, you're proud to see them enjoying themselves, progressing. You flood social media with videos of them on their bike.
But lately something is unnerving you.
Now, they keep up and sometimes even overtake you. They clear that gap you've never dared to attempt!
These days they prefer to ride with their mates and they let you know that it would be even better if you weren't there.
But they’re still so small...
At the same time, this is what you wanted. The more you think about it, the easier it gets.

It all started the day they got their CLASH...




When we started designing the CLASH for kids, we didn't set any limits. Children should also have the right to bikes designed from start to finish with their little bodies in mind. We're not just talking about the size of the frame but also about suspension kinematics and even of choice of components and their shapes and sizes.







CLASH 20

A worthy successor to the SUPREME 20, the CLASH 20 is more fresh and modern. The bike is designed to be used at speed and is built around a quality 20-inch fork. The fork has 120mm of travel with a low crown height to enable a good balance of the geometry.

But that's not all, we also focused our attention on the rear suspension. We use a particularly high suspension ratio due to the light weight of the rider. This way it's possible to adjust the shock fully within its range of use. Air pressure and rebound/compression adjustments are standard for prime suspension optimisation. With said 120mm of travel, the CLASH 20 can go anywhere; easy rides on forest tracks, bike park debuts or to reach DH podiums in its category.


The frame itself has undergone specific development and the 345mm chain stays are particularly short. This is helpful for children because they don't have the physical strength of an adult to move the bike around as easily. The seat tube is short (260mm) so that even the youngest (and shortest) can benefit from the CLASH 20 as soon as possible. With its 65° head angle, the CLASH 20 will help kids to progress and furthermore, enable them access to any trails.

Price: 1 799 € / 1.799 USD / 2.399 CAD


CLASH 24

In this age group and at this stage of their development, the kids are getting stronger and 145mm of travel becomes a necessity. The suspension ratio is deliberately high in order for the shock to operate fully within its range. Air pressure and rebound/compression adjustments are standard for prime suspension optimisation.


The bike is built around a quality 24" fork. The 24" castings mean we can use a 145mm travel fork, which in turn means the bike is well balanced. The front of the bike is not too high so that the support is better distributed from front to back. Geometry has evolved with an extended reach, again for better balance (350mm v 313mm) and reinforced shorter chain stays compared to the SUPREME 24 (390mm v 420mm). The result is a bike that is much more playful with added stability and grip. At this age they're already going very fast!

Price: 1 999 € / 1.999 USD / 2.599 CAD


CLASH JUNIOR


Sometimes it’s difficult for them to make the transition into adulthood. That's why we created the JUNIOR range. The CLASH JR is the perfect enduro bike, a mini CLASH with 160mm of rear travel and 27.5 wheels.


The suspension ratio is intentionally higher than on an adult CLASH because of the lighter weight of smaller riders and so the shock can operate through the full range of travel. Air pressure and rebound/compression adjustments are standard for prime suspension optimisation. The JR has a 160mm fork to ensure perfect balance on all support points. With a seat tube of just 370mm and a reach of 380mm, it's possible for them to grow up seamlessly.

Price : 2.499 € / 2.499 USD / 3.299 CAD


MENTIONS: @COMMENCALbicycles




105 Comments

  • 75 2
 When I was little, we used to have to cycle 15 miles uphill to school in the snow in summer. And on the way back. Our hoops were cast iron with leather tyres nailed on. We'd sit on a bag of potatoes fashioned into a saddle. I miss the 90s.
  • 11 5
 Luxury!!!
  • 2 0
 Eating it at 1:43!! So good. Good stuff man little guys getting rad
  • 10 0
 Back in my day we didn't have days, only long nights shrouded in freezing darkness with maybe 20 minutes of faint light if we were lucky.
  • 2 0
 @iangillies: ....and Burzum was the soundtrack.
  • 42 2
 me: "Is it true that for a 12-year-old a 26'' bike is like a 29'' bike for an adult?"

Interviewer: "I meant questions about the job"
  • 42 7
 Little cunts!
  • 4 0
 My thoughts exactly!
  • 1 1
 me too
  • 18 0
 I feel bad calling kids bad names even though I thought it... except for my own. They're little assholes.
  • 4 1
 @Ride406orDie: We're all little a**holes as kids, but some grow out of it or just get bigger
  • 1 0
 @Ride406orDie: LOL! Same here.
  • 2 0
 Petits cons!!! in french. My thought exactly ;-)
  • 33 5
 if only the video edit didn't start with the music it did -- Not really worthy of sharing with the kids when there's N words being dropped.
  • 5 2
 I agree
  • 8 0
 I don't know why but for some reason I expected the soundtrack to be a CLASH song... not sure why...
  • 19 0
 The copy of:

"At first, you're proud to see them enjoying themselves, progressing. You flood social media with videos of them on their bike.
But lately something is unnerving you.
Now, they keep up and sometimes even overtake you. They clear that gap you've never dared to attempt!
These days they prefer to ride with their mates and they let you know that it would be even better if you weren't there.
But they’re still so small...
At the same time, this is what you wanted. The more you think about it, the easier it gets."

Hits disturbingly close to home.
  • 16 3
 the clash jr has 27.5" wheels. ladies and gentlemen...26" is officially dead
  • 2 6
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 21, 2019 at 6:28) (Below Threshold)
 NS Clash Jr has 24” wheels
  • 2 1
 You should have held on to that breath longer! Manufacturers trying to price kids bikes same as adults bikes hahaha
  • 3 1
 @drivereight: whats on a low level adult bike that isnt on a kids bike?
  • 11 4
 Price , price , price. Way too much for a kids bike. My kids aren't heavy enough to squish a banana much less a dual sus. Give me low pressure plus tire on a hard tail and put these things on a serious diet so the kids can go up not just shuttle and skid down.
Cute idea but seriously keep it simple.
And seriously drop the tune at the start. "N.......r" in any video on pink bike should be banned. Wake up p-bike. Get your standards up.
  • 3 0
 The bikes? What bikes? I was so happy watching their faces. Loved the car slide with their heads out the window in the Yugo type car. Had the sound turned down so didn't hear the divisive lyrics(was hoping to actually hear The Clash). So nice to see kids doing and being joy. So natural and a great reminder to me for what really "floats my boat/trues my wheels." Since I don't have little ones around and since they grow up so fast anyway, I have my trail dog friend to remind me of what matters. Thank you amazing ones.
  • 5 0
 Gotta love kids having fun, put a smile on my dial. Awesome shredding little people!
  • 6 2
 Such a nice edit but.... more kids that are super young and have way more skills than me, now I feel even older and slower Smile
  • 2 0
 What do these things weigh? Biggest obstacle to mountain biking for my boys (7 & 8 ) is their damn bikes are heavier than my 160mm CF enduro bike and kids are ~60 & 50lbs each... its so difficult for them to pedal a bike 1/2 their weight uphill for any length of time.
  • 1 0
 the workout and gym is included in price mate Wink
  • 5 0
 Andorrans and 4x4s. Malefic mix
  • 3 0
 Those four boys rip! When my little guy is old enough, the Clash 20 will be at the top of the shopping list! Thanks Commencal for making proper bikes for groms.
  • 5 0
 "When my little guy is old enough " is for me a year from now. And he will need a "normal" ht for every day.
And my even littlest (!!!) guy who is currently on 12 inch Ramones will need a proper pedal bike by this Fall. Of course, he'll be way too small for his brother's Ramones 16, so I'll have to buy him a Ramones 14.

Anyway, I have a kidney for sale if somebody is interested!
  • 3 3
 @pakleni: some bike parks have 20” and 24” fullies for rental. In Hafjell which is pricey they cost like 100€ per weekend . Sounds steep. But then to own one you need to spend 1700-2500€. Resale value is not any higher than a regular bike so you pay like 1k anyways. That is 10 weekends. Son he only question is Will you ride with your kid 10 lift weekends by the time he grows old enough to ride an old 26” fully in S size that costs almost nothing.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I know. But i have 3 of them. 4, 2 and 0 years old. So even if only 2 of them hooks up..
  • 13 1
 Erice (one with long blond hair) is a 12 yr old girl. She smashes most men in the local Enduro races in Wellington NZ. Awesome rider.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Resale value near any sort of MTB community out in USA is really high for kids bikes. Its abject trash for an adult bike...but for a proper kids bike (TrailCraft/Spawn), they hold their value REALLY well. The supply is next to nothing tho which really helps.
  • 1 0
 I picked up a very dated 2005 big hit grom for my 8 year old. He is now 9 and the 40 lbs doesn't bother him too bad on downhill days. when he is 10 he'll be getting an xs DH 26" bike with "old" geometry that weight 10 lb less.
  • 1 1
 One of them is a lass????
  • 2 0
 @fruitsd79: If one is riding downhill only on the bike, the whole weight concern thing is over-rated. Air front/back on same 2005 big hit with adjustable brake levers did fine for my kid ages 8-10 and 750,000 vertical on the bike without issues. More like 36 lbs. Bought used at a fraction of the cost.

youtu.be/sdOrdy3ZoZw

Riding uphill, sure find something real light. But then again, most 8-10 yr olds don't have much stamina for riding long uphills.
  • 4 0
 @kwcpinkbike: well kids like 10yr olds would behave like they have more stamina if their bikes wouldn't weigh what would equal to 60-80lbs for an adult. You wouldn't ride up a hill too far with that either. Then the qfactor would be like 10" if your cranks were as wide for your legs as theirs are for you. Industry has a a few things to sort out for kids. They can start with slimmer cranksets and 53-58mm BB shells so that kids can stand right on them. Then they should get geads out of their asses and start building kids bikes from road tubing so that weight of HT frame doesn't exceed 3 pounds and 4,5 pounds for a fully. Then components like handlebars, stems, seat posts - none of them should exceed 150g for a kid that is under 10yr old. Don't put any anchors like shit ass formula hubs, which weigh nearly double of shimano deore centerlock. No bike for a kid under body weight of 100lbs should weigh more than 20lbs for a HT and 25lbs for a fully.
  • 1 0
 @kwcpinkbike: also, I often see folks on heavy ass bikes doing sht, and while it may be true that World Cup racers run bike just as heavy (easily 35lbs or more) they also outlift average Joe by his body weight. Even if Minnaar is slim, he possibly benches more than Joe is deadlifting. So the result is that Joe gets wobbled on rocks on a heavy ass bike, with no prospects to ever gap two roots.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I'm not making an argument that companies shouldn't design more appropriate bikes for kids with less weight in tubing, etc.

I was commenting on the fact that when looking at downhill bikes for groms, people sometimes get overly caught up in the kids weight to the bike weight ratio. It's just not the same. My kid weighed about 80 lbs and was on a 36 lb. downhill bike. He did just fine, sure maybe he could have gotten higher or thrown the bike around more if it were lighter, but the bike weight did not detract from the bottom line of having fun and becoming a decent downhill rider. The equivalent would be a 150 lb adult riding a roughly 70 lb. downhill bike which would be just unmanageable for any adult downhill rider. Again rider to bike weight ratios don't hold to the same extent for kids as it does for adults. I even posted a video link to show he was having fun and the bike weight was not an issue using that bike for about 750,000 vertical at a bike park. In fact, we had a 2nd back-up exactly the same that friends he age/weight often borrowed and did just fine. This isn't speculation, but actual experience with my kid and other kids at a downhill park. Could have put 4 of those bikes together for same cost as the kid specific high end bikes now available. I also could have had wheels made to lighten the bike up, put on carbon parts, etc. but there really wasn't any added value. YMMV but this was just my experience.

As I said, sure if one if riding uphill then that's alot of bike to deal with and not a very good idea even if you locked out the front/rear suspension. We didn't ride uphill with that bike, and honestly even if he had a 20 lb bike at that age, for him, he didn't have any interest in busting out a long uphill ride. But then again, why would he when there was a lift that would take him up 2000 vertical in a matter of minutes.
  • 1 0
 @kwcpinkbike: we just LO the rear end, raise the seat, bump the tire pressure to 22-25psi and ride it XC trails.
He is actually too short for a 24" diamondback Line or similar DJ bike.
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79: And the bottom line is he's having fun correct?

I should add that I do think the following 3 things are key over weight:
a. Front Air
b. Rear Air
c. Hydraulic brakes with adjustable levers

When we moved up at 11 yrs old to a 26" bike, it was with a 2009 Giant Glory frame (super super heavy frame), totem air, rear air (marz) spank wheels, and lighter cranks. No carbon and bike was just over 36 lbs.
Weight at that time: 100 lbs to 36 lbs. bike weight. With just being older, he could send that build big time (downhill of course)

Only at age 14 did we make the addition to an old 26" xc bike that was, 36 lbs and it did fine for 1st year intro into NICA league. Only at 15 did we splurge and spend $3000 for a new fs bike but even that one weighs 30 lbs (125 lbs to 30 lb bike --- he still shouldn't be able to ride uphill that with that rider/bike weight ratio).

So bottom line, sure industry should make smarter lighter grom bikes. But even when they do, the prices seem a bit high in my world. Don't get caught up in the latest / greatest when they are growing, just get out there with them and have fun.
  • 5 0
 The music is preventing me from watching this.
  • 2 0
 Commencal- these guys are suddle geniuses, the knew if they nailed the kids market they would be a an instant Global Bike.

Look how consoles get sold... Kids MTB (Proper) is going to be a huge f*cking market.
  • 2 0
 Sick riding! Love watching kids rip on 24" wheels. We got our son a Big Hit Grom when he was 10 and now he kills me on the local trails and in Whistler. Student has passed the teacher. Those look like awesome bikes!
  • 4 0
 This video proves once and for all that Skids really are for Kids.
  • 2 0
 Seriously one of the best videos I have seen in a long time! Brings back so many memories and captures a bit of the wonder that kids have. Well done @COMMENCALbicycles !!
  • 3 0
 Man kids are lucky these days, I had to use fuckin walmart and canadian tire bikes when i was a kid
  • 2 1
 Buying this 24" bike. It's amazing but for real 155mm cranks are not right at all for a child sized on this bike. 4 finger brakes with levers a mile long are ridiculously bad.
  • 1 0
 I got suntour 152mm cranks for my kids' 24" bike. He runs 150mm on his race BMX and 140mm on the park BMX.
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79: fine for a park bmx. If you run the BMX crank calculators (assuming he is around 52" or so) that he might be better off on 130mm for racing. Talk to the guys at Helium BMX, the kid will get a speed boost and have a bit more control just with the right size cranks. Their pedals are awesome too. I just had my 52" kid (ideal size for 24" bike) on 155mm cranks yesterday, his knee comes up really high and his legs are really spread apart when standing. Better for their joints if they are putting the miles in.

Instead of Suntour, grab some Prevelo MTB cranks for 86$. 24mm shimano style spindle and 140mm long. Q factor is spot on too.

Most of the OEM cranks today are simply made for adults. Most manufacturers take the easy way out (Sram or Suntour) and just use whatever and say its ideal. Its def not when you see it side by side. My wife is ok on 155m cranks. A tiny kid is not. Plus there isnt really any advantage to cranks being too long other than it's cheap for the manufacturer.

When you check out the high end kids boutiques like Trailcraft, they def arent doing long cranks for good reason. They also cost 1700$ for a 21lb hardtail but have it all dialed in.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard: Prevelo cranks sold out.
  • 1 0
 @dirtpedaler: Damn, are you sure? We just got ours 3 days ago (they are dope!). You might contact them via Facebook or whatever. They often looked sold out on bikes but have a bike or two hanging around still (I'm told). You can go with TrailCraft cranks too. You get a BB and get to pick your chainring. Pretty much the same cranks (and directmount chainring) cranks as the Prevelo's but 20g lighter I think. Spawn sells 140mm cranks too.
  • 2 0
 @Svinyard: emailed them, that was a good deal. Yep, got the Broods already. Need a replacement for the bike we need to sell, Broods replaced the ones he bent, then moved them to the 24 to replace the 155's that came stock.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard: I don't mess with lightest and tightest. Got a 7 foot trophy from grands. Lots of number 1 plates. We do fine on big boy parts.
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79: damn, sounds like your kid is super talented man. Fun stuff. We don't do a ton of BMX but more so on the DH side. My kids only 7 tho so who knows. Some of that kids bmx race gear is crazy tho. Full carbon setup etc. 2k$ lol.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard: It's insane, a single speed rigid 20" bike costs for more than a really good mountain bike
  • 1 0
 That kid with the black shirt and his golden locks coming out from his helmet, it looks like McGazza is finally reborn! I love it!
  • 6 1
 Her golden locks. Erice is a kiwi girl and an amazing rider!
  • 3 0
 *exert; I don't think you can 'excerpt' a human...
  • 1 0
 Yes Commencal! Proper shred sleds for All. At interbike a few years back i saw they make a walker balance bike with a disc brake! Leading the charge into the future
  • 1 0
 I got one for my then 3yo and promptly put on an old XTR IS mount brake I had in the garage. Both of my boys now ride Commencal because of that balance bike and the fact the company gets it
  • 1 0
 Very cool that Commencal have stepped up with some serious kid's MTBs, but can somebody explain this www.bikeradar.com/news/commencal-meta-ht-power-24-e-mtb
  • 1 0
 Build what people want, and they will buy it. $75k for a new pickup truck? Sure! Vanity knows no limit.
  • 2 3
 Even if I had the money - and kids btw - I wouldn`t buy these things for simple reasons:
- if you offer them such dream machines, what will they expect for they driving licence: a Porsche?
- the price is spicy for such bad components. Those wheels are the worst you can have, without mentioning the rest...
- better ride a good rigid bike, lighter and well balanced, rather than an overloaded full suspended tank.
- less is more, more is less. Minimalism is the best school at the beginning. It helps learning how to bend arms and legs.
Once an adult and on a proper bike, a kid who learned on a rigid bike will be more skilled. That`s not a secret for anyone...
  • 2 0
 Planting the seeds of our future. Fertilize them well industry.
  • 2 0
 Shouldn't you be at school? and get your hair cut! I'm not not jealous.
  • 3 5
 My daughter has Meta Ht and it is the first and the last bike I bought for my kids from commencal. It is heavy as fuk. Frame would sustain a grown, fat man. Start speccing Shimano Commie. I bought it solely for short stays and suspension fork. I spent no more than 150€ on cutting 1,5kg off of it. If they chose lighter parts (like no Formula hubs that weigh at least 800g) and use lighter tubing it would not cost much more and save 2kgs.
  • 1 0
 Commencals improving a bit. This Clash bike is like a Propain Yuma but WAAAY better suspension and looks and geometry...but worse drive train and brakes. And a little cheaper. The suspension being so badass is the real magic here.

I hear you on that Meta tho. It was never that great. Plus tires suck and its heavy etc etc.

Spawn/Prevelo/Trail Craft is where it's at man.
  • 3 0
 @Svinyard: Manitou did the littles a solid by making legit forks for them
  • 1 0
 Waht!?

How are they looser than me? I had better work on my drifty corner entering counter steer skills!
  • 1 0
 Not afraid to spell this out:
These kids would smoke me pretty much all over on any trail.
  • 1 0
 Saab forever! Wink
  • 2 0
 Still hoping for a Clash review
  • 1 0
 Yes, me too. I`ve tested one few weeks ago: its a good descender, but not a good climber. I didn`t expect more...
  • 2 0
 these are SO SICK.
  • 14 0
 I don't think so. These bikes actually got delivered...
  • 1 0
 @km79: Well done sir WELL DONE!
  • 1 0
 Awesone video! Great job Commencal and kiddos.
  • 1 0
 Commencal if your sponsor my son, can I have free bikes too?
  • 1 0
 Given the title, I came here for Ben Shapiro
  • 1 0
 I see at least two of those bikes in my future.
  • 2 1
 Kids sized, adult pricing! What a scam!
  • 2 0
 Why should the size dictate price? A XS isnt any cheaper than an XL?
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard: Exactly. The cost of goods difference across all sizes is literally pennies
  • 1 0
 This is not good birth control.
  • 1 0
 How about an adult sized 26 inch?...
  • 1 0
 Nevermind. I stand corrected.
  • 1 0
 When i was younger ... so much younger than today !!!
  • 1 0
 Proper senders!
  • 1 0
 I've wasted my life.
  • 1 0
 lil skate rats
  • 2 0
 Yeah. 20 to 24 to XS 27.5 26in is a small gap that they grow out of. The 27.5 can be run with 26in wheels in a pinch tho. It's hard to find nice 26in stuff, even harder for kids stuff
  • 2 0
 @fruitsd79:

Keyword - "Used"

I want to be able to buy a new frame with modern geometry.
  • 1 0
 @Armalite: Yeah buying a 10yr old 26er is a bit silly when you have to rebuild the suspenion, prob drive train and brakes etc. Regardless, Norco makes sick 27.5 bikes for kids bigger than 24". They shrink the chainstays down to 420 too! Thats a big deal. Ladies version will have a light rider tune as well. The sight is pretty dope. Some cheaper stuff like NX Eagle on it but still pretty damn nice for a kid.

Canyon makes a sweet 27.5 for kids bike too. Spectral comes in an XXS (CS are still 430 tho). The Neuron is only 1899$ for the ladies version and really really nice for that price. Its 29lbs too which is really light compared to the others it seems.
  • 1 0
 @Armalite: it is impossible to go fast downhill on a 10 year old bike.
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79:

Impossible? No. Safe? No.

Do I still do it? Yes.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard:

I just want a new 26". That's not too much to ask for.
  • 1 0
 @Armalite: Just throw 26" wheels on a 27.5 bike like a RM Altitude that has 425mm short chainstays, Ride9 adjustment to fix the BB height and then bump the fork 10mm or so. Prob be sick.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard:

I just want a 26" downhill rig. That's not too much to ask for.

Stop telling me to do shit with 27.5, I'm clearly not interested.
  • 1 0
 @Armalite: lol well since we are on the kids side of things. Meekboyz makes a sick 26" DH Beast.
  • 2 2
 FUK DOUBLE SUSPENSSION.

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