Commencal Announces BC-Edition Furious and Meta

Jan 30, 2018 at 8:47
by COMMENCAL bicycles  
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PRESS RELEASE: Commencal

It's been two years since the opening of our offices in the promised land of British Columbia, Canada!

This dream riding destination is legendary in the world of mountain biking. So, how can we describe this special place? Lumberjacks, plaid shirts, mist, expansive forests, a real community of riders, brown bears, cougars… Those of you who've already set foot on BC soil will know that there is a very special atmosphere in these wild landscapes.

Today we’re happy to introduce our 2 bestsellers that showcase this unique design, representing our vision of the BC spirit. The matte black and khaki two-tone colour-way is reminiscent of the areas large forests, the Haida orange details represent an appreciation of BC history and of course we have iconic brands such as RockShox, SRAM and Chromag to finish things off properly.

Here’s the result. Featuring a couple of our British-Columbian-based freeriders Brendan Howey & Daniel Fleury and our craziest resident endurist Yoann Barelli, we hope you like it.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.
Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.
Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.
Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.
Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.
Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.
Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.
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Commencal

Images for COMMENCAL British Columbia edition bikes launch.


PRE-ORDER NOW :



Commencal
FURIOUS BC EDITION

FRAME: 2018 FURIOUS 650b Travel 200mm
SHOCK: ROCKSHOX SUPER DELUXE R COIL, 250x75, Rebound
FORK: ROCKSHOX BOXXER TEAM, 200mm travel, compression, rebound
STEM: CHROMAG BZA 35, DH Direct Mount, 50mm length, Ø35mm, black/grey
BARS: CHROMAG OSX 35, double butted, 25mm rise, 800mm, Ø35mm, black/grey
GRIPS: CHROMAG SQUAREWAVE, black
BRAKES: SRAM Code R 200mm/200mm
DRIVETRAIN: SRAM GX DH, 7sp, 11-27
CHAIN GUIDE: E13 TRS+, alloy
CRANKS: NEW E13 LG1, 36t, 165mm, 24mm axle
WHEELS: SPANK SPIKE 350 WHEELSET, 30mm inner width
TIRES: SCHWALBE MAGIC MARY BIKE PARK, 27.5x2.35
SADDLE: CHROMAG OVERTURE, LTD Rawhide
ACCESSORIES: Down tube protector, chainstay protector
SIZES: S/M/L/XL

PRICES: 3.799 € / 3.799 USD / 4.999 CAD / 5,499 AUD



Commencal
META AM V4.2 BC EDITION

FRAME: 2018 META AM V4.2 650b Travel 160mm
SHOCK: ROCKSHOX SUPER DELUXE RCT, 230x60, open/lock
FORK: ROCKSHOX LYRIK RC 170mm, Solo air, Boost 110x15
STEM: CHROMAG HIFI V2, 40mm lenght, Ø31.8mm,black
BARS: CHROMAG FUBAR OSX 35, double butted, 25mm rise, 780mm, Ø31,8mm, black
GRIPS: CHROMAG SQUAREWAVE, black
BRAKES: SRAM Guide RE, 200mm/180mm
DRIVETRAIN: SRAM GX EAGLE 1x12sp, 10-50
CRANKS: SRAM DESCENDANT EAGLE 7K X-Sync, 34t, boost
WHEELS: SPANK OOZY 350 WHEELSET, 30mm inner width
TIRES: SCHWALBE MAGIC MARY, 27.5x2.35 Front, SCHWALBE ROCK RAZOR 27.5x2.35 Rear
SEATPOST: KS LEV INTEGRA, 31,6mm southpaw alloy lever
SADDLE: WTB VOLT RACE
ACCESSORIES: Down tube protector, chainstay protector, seatstay protector, chainstay cable GUIDE
SIZES: S/M/L/XL

PRICES: 3.799 € / 3.799 USD / 4.999 CAD / 5,499 AUD


Available on our online store.



145 Comments

  • + 135
 Rocky Mountain will be thrilled
  • + 26
 BC Copyright 1992 by Rocky Mountain Bicycles.
  • - 16
flag Gamsjaga (Jan 30, 2018 at 11:11) (Below Threshold)
 How did they come up with such a unique name after two years with an office in BC - market research/analysis done by a dyslexic intern or next level creativity in the Commencal marketing department?
  • + 43
 @Gamsjaga: calm down.they also had a new zealand edition of the meta, they are obviously doing builds and paint that reflect certian area
  • - 26
flag Gamsjaga (Jan 30, 2018 at 11:32) (Below Threshold)
 @l8igz: Come on, why would you name a bike series exactly like one of your main competitors does?
  • + 48
 @Gamsjaga: Who cares?
  • + 14
 @Gamsjaga: Why not?
  • + 5
 @Gamsjaga: rocky uses "BC" and commencal uses "British Columbia" so its not exactly the same and the bike it carries the most resemblance to is the maiden but that doesn't carry the "BC" in the name. But the main point is that the "BC" or "British Columbia" is like having the "1" or "2" after the name of a bike to show the difference in spec/paint. If commencal just ripped off rocky and called it the "slayer British Columbia Edition" then yeah that would be messed up.
  • - 21
flag Gamsjaga (Jan 30, 2018 at 12:02) (Below Threshold)
 @inverted180: Haha, yes! I’m just amazed by the laziness to come up with something more original.
  • + 44
 I think they should have called it the "Rocky Mountain" Edition
  • - 3
 @seidla: AAAHAHA! Man ya'll are FOOLIN on the Rocky Mountain crushes aaahaha!
  • + 3
 @Gamsjaga: who's got a furious BC edition on the market?
and a meta v4.2 BC edition on the market?
  • + 4
 @Gamsjaga: Because there is many people who ride mountain cycles in BC, perhaps they will sell a few to them
  • + 14
 The real question is when to expect the Rocky Mountain "Andorra Edition" series...
  • + 15
 BC clearly means Before Christ, glad i can could clear that up for everyone.
  • + 1
 Thats the first thing i thought of
  • + 1
 Where is George Braniggan version
  • + 4
 @Gamsjaga: they should gave called it the Meta C2Sky.
  • + 0
 I always though BC edition meant Backcountry edition ie; burly and dependable..
  • + 4
 McDowells
  • + 3
 Ever since Rocky Mountain has claimed the website bikes.com, other companies are doing their utmost to avoid using the word "bike" for their product. "Trail weapon", "rig", "trail slayer" (though that latter one is already pushing it)... Commencal may have thought they were relatively safe with BC edition but apparently not so. Maybe if they let RM have their Ramones too they can suss things out. Best would be if Trump would build a wall on the Canadian-French border (and let the Mexicans pay for it) to keep hostilities at bay. Because once I'm going off topic there's no turning back.
  • + 1
 @Whipperman came here just to mention I thought Rocky Mountain Bikes could make a BC Edition!
  • + 74
 29” meta with a threaded BB please.
  • + 23
 It would be the first direct sales, long-travel 29er. I think they would make a killing with it. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
  • - 5
flag faultlinetv Plus (Jan 30, 2018 at 11:12) (Below Threshold)
 @eblackwell: @intensecyclesusa does a direct to consumer 155mm 29er, I believe it's called the Carbine. you should check it out.
  • + 9
 @eblackwell: Bird sells a 150mm 29er ("Aeris AM9") direct! (& it has a threaded BB)
  • + 7
 @eblackwell: EVIL The Wreckoning
  • + 2
 @DeLaRosaMTB: Orbea Rallon R5
  • + 1
 @eblackwell: not a direct sales brand but you should check out the NS Bikes Snabb 150 plus 2018. 160/150mm travel 29er an looks sick.
  • + 3
 Nukeproof Mega 290?
  • + 13
 @faultlinetv: Sorry, should say first *affordable* longer-travel, direct sales 29er...
  • + 7
 @COMMENCALbicycles: You produce some great and affordable bikes. When are you going to work your magic and offer a 29" version of the META TR/AM/SX? Believe me, they will sell.

@CommencalCORP @COMMENCAL-CANADA
  • + 7
 @eblackwell: check out the Guerrilla Gravity Smash if you like rowdy made in the usa 29 ers too!
  • - 3
 @eblackwell: I think you just need to replace your 10,000 year old P.O.C.
  • + 4
 one thing still holding me back from commencal and yt is that neither does a threaded bb. it cant possibly cost that much to do a threaded bb
  • + 2
 @adrennan:

Same here. I really like the Commencal, but I chose another brand, because it had a threaded bb. Surely Commencal could add a threaded bb without a big increase in cost..?
  • + 0
 @ZeBraW: NS is direct sales in Canada
  • + 3
 @adrennan @Hammer48 A threaded bottom bracket shell would add maybe $5-$10 US per bike. No reason not to do it. In fact, it's a selling point.
  • + 1
 @TransitionBikeCompany `s Sentinel . support your local bike shop !
  • + 1
 @j-t-g: oh for real? That's interesting...
  • + 44
 I'm always on board with acknowledging First Nations, but the Haida Nation actually associates "orange" with residential school violence (www.haidanation.ca/?p=2279), and the Haida emblem is red.
  • + 37
 Ya. It's never a very good idea to drape native artwork all over your creation without really understanding what you're actually doing. "Appreciation" turns to "appropriation" really quickly.
  • + 6
 @dirktanzarian: cite festival girls here.
  • + 7
 I'm glad people are pointing it out. If Commencal hired first nations artists to do the designs then good work, if not then it becomes appropriation and your just like the festival girls.
  • + 6
 Ouch. Seems like such a simple thing to reach out and avoid. Not only that the artwork probably would have been objectively superior too. Thank you for the information
  • + 0
 If they'd said red on the other hand...
  • - 7
flag Laird (Jan 30, 2018 at 15:04) (Below Threshold)
 On top of that Commencal is a brand from a colonial country which is perpetuating the colonization of the First Nation culture in BC by making a British Columbia edition bike similar to how the British perpetuate their colonization by continuing a rhetoric of the "them and us", also seen by Jamie Oliver with his Empire chicken recipe which is a recipe for Tandoori chicken... It is very disappointing to see this in today world.
  • + 8
 @Laird: I never realised that Andorra was a colonial country.
  • + 2
 @Laird: I didn't think this tour of Bologna would make its way onto a mountain biking board. Like most of these things, this is almost certainly a case of middle class white people getting offended on behalf of someone else who doesn't even care.
  • + 2
 Tour of Bologna = bollocks. Good old auto correct.
  • + 3
 @metaam: Andorra stop colonizating the world plz
  • + 3
 @humoroususername: except these people do care, and say so all the time. Its more a case of white people ignoring.
  • + 6
 Glad this has got raised and is actually getting upvoted here. It would be good to hear from @COMMENCALbicycles on this.

It's a little odd to talk about "an appreciation of BC history" by including First Nations art (which massively precedes any notion of "BC"), and perhaps more so to choose to reference Haida Nation when your company and all your riding shots are based in the traditional territories of the Squamish peoples.

Perhaps it would have been better to talk to Squamish Nation about the possibility of a Sḵwx̱wú7mesh Edition?
  • + 40
 @COMMENCALbicycles Did you guys collaborate with a First Nations artist on this project or did you just copy them for profit?
  • + 17
 ^ This question needs to be answered!
  • + 2
 What does first nation refer to?
  • + 14
 First Nation is the common term in Canada for our Indigenous people. They were here long before us and they sure aren't from India...
  • - 27
flag jamesbrant (Jan 30, 2018 at 17:23) (Below Threshold)
 @mtnbikermitch: bullshit.
  • - 2
 @nathanbalsdon: it also shows some reverance to many of the treaties which have been signed recognizing First Nations people as members of a nation of within a nation. I think...
  • + 3
 @nathanbalsdon: sorry, it's much more complex than that and the real first settlers in Canada has been up for debate for a very long time. New evidence is constantly being found and changing timelines. I think it's back past 30,000 years now and the 'first nations' now were part of one of the last waves that came over the Bering straight during the last ice age. Ie. There were people here before them, before them, etc.
  • - 10
flag andhebus (Jan 31, 2018 at 0:26) (Below Threshold)
 I hope you guys talking that much about First Nations are not descendent from Europe colonists! Do you remember that your forefathers came in a place murdering the Indigenous people? And now you complain for an artwork on a bike? You are really funny...
  • + 1
 @andhebus: shouldn't poeple of European descent care more about this sort of thing giving our past history? Or is your thought line "well we rapped and murdered you in the past so why start caring now"...
  • + 2
 @andhebus: Are u seriously this ignorant? By your logic, nothing in society will ever improve. Recognizing and attempting to resolve these atrocities is a big part of what it is to be Canadian.
  • + 0
 @nathanbalsdon

You are right. I would prefer they skip the graphics totally.
  • + 4
 @nathanbalsdon: Minor point of grammar, First Nations are not "our" indigenous people, the "our" can be kind of offensive in that it presumes a sense of ownership. The term First Nations rather refers to indigenous peoples living in the land now referred to as Canada, who are not Inuit or Métis.

I highly recommend checking out the book Indigenous Writes by Chelsea Vowel on this topic. www.amazon.ca/Indigenous-Writes-Nations-issues-Canada/dp/155379680
  • + 1
 Hello, i've carefully read all these comments following the launch of our BC edition.
It goes without saying that we don't want to claim or appropriate anything and let alone offend anyone. These limited versions (NZ, BC and there will be others) are just there to celebrate the beautiful places on the planet where MTB is practised and to showcase all these different places. This diversity is one of the greatest riches of our sport.
As for those who ask for the META in 29, patience, we are taking care of it ????
Peace,
Max
  • + 2
 @COMMENCALbicycles:

Max,

Thanks for taking the time to read the stuff here. I'm not entirely clear, but sounds like you're saying that you weren't aware of the significance of using these graphics? As a European immigrant to BC I understand that it's easy to not be aware of this stuff when you come from outside - many people who grew up here are pretty blind to it still, so I don't think anyone here is suggesting that you intentionally ignored the potential issues. The important thing is what you do when you do know.

And I can't help but notice that you didn't mention anything about what may happen now that you are aware of the issues?

Dan
  • + 1
 @delusional: let me guess. The bikes are done. They have been shipped to global distribution centres. It is a limited run. End of story. Buy one or don't buy one.
  • + 3
 @jaame: For sure, it's certainly too late to do anything about the bikes themselves, but there are more responses here than not selling the bike, and this is not an issue of consumer choice to be decided by "buy the bike or don't buy the bike".

There are many things that Commencal could choose to do here in response that wouldn't be "pull the bike". Even acknowledging that they made a mistake, and saying that they will consult with the relevant First Nations on any similar project in future, would be better than just saying that they'd read the comments.

But on the subject of things that wouldn't really cost anything... updating the website copy to actually honour the peoples who's lands we're on would be a good start (and not refer to the Haida as "BC history"), and adding territory acknowledgements to videos filmed on First Nations territories would be fantastic.

It wouldn't cost a whole lot to donate the fee that should have been paid to a Haida artist for that art work as well.

But really the best thing they could do would be to talk to the relevant First Nations themselves, apologise, and ask them what to do.
  • + 1
 @delusional: you really think they should do all that? I guess it's a much bigger deal than I thought, because personally it just reminds me of the graphics on a rockshox totem. I wonder if they consulted the relevant authority before printing those graphics, or retrospectively apologised for not doing so. Or was that just "totem pole style" from no particular area. What do you think?
  • + 1
 @jaame: Funny you say "all that" - I think that what I've suggested is pretty minor really. Bear in mind than when we're talking about Indigenous rights issues in North America we're talking about engaging with a history of violent colonialism that waged a concerted effort to eradicate an entire continent of peoples and their cultures: Indigenous children were still being put into residential schools where they were forbidden to show any representation of their own cultures (and often treated in terrible abusive ways) until the late 20th century; from the 60s on (until today) Indigenous children are taken from their parents pretty much as a first step whenever child services are involved; treaties with First Nations are still routinely ignored; Indigenous women and girls are murdered at an alarming rate and barely investigated; and there's plenty more if you want to do some reading. I recommended a book up above that is a great introduction to this stuff.

All of that has left many divorced from their culture, their homes, and their families, has created inter-generational trauma which very seriously affects many people today, has threatened many languages and cultures with extinction, and contributed to a deep racism that runs through settlers: people and state.

So yes, when a European company comes over here, and releases a BC edition that: takes an approximation of First Nations art, tries to sell a product using a colour that is tied to remembrance for residential schools, pulls from Haida imagery whilst having no actual relation to Haida lands, and then tries to frame this all as a respect for "BC history" (remember that BC itself is a colonial imposition on Indigenous lands) that can well leave a bitter taste for many.

The Totem graphics are certainly a bit of an issue, but perhaps somewhat different in that, from what I remember, they were not contextualised within a place as much as this is. But yes, they probably should have worked with Indigenous artists to create those - that they didn't does not excuse anyone else from doing the same.
  • + 32
 BC edition...add Chromag parts...leave American wheels, cranks, guide...and basically everything else. Replace all the E13 with Raceface product and it would at the very least make sense. That said, the bikes looks sick!
  • + 1
 you have a very good point.
  • + 2
 Spank is founded by a German an a South African...and now based in Vancouver as far as I know.
  • + 45
 It’s all Chinese bud
  • + 10
 It's mostly the appropriation of aboriginal art that makes it the BC edition.
  • + 4
 Spank was is based in Taiwan. Offices elsewhere. All design and manufacture is done in Taichung.
  • + 2
 @jflb: Taiwan i think not Chinese, or are you a one China policy advocate, hehehe
  • + 2
 @Zuman: the one China policy: "you must publicly state that Taiwan is part of China, even though you, me, the Taiwanese and everyone else know it's not... bit let's just all go along with this little farce in order to save face.. or at least pretend we are saving face by all pretending there is no elephant in the room."
  • + 1
 @jflb: Tell that to NSB.
  • + 1
 or just replace the E.13 stuff because it's unreliable garbage
  • + 19
 I consider myself exceptionally lucky to live in this part of the world. I have probably 12 riding spots all within an hour's drive.
  • + 6
 Where exactly do you live ? I'm considering becoming your neighbour after my studies. Thanks Salute
  • + 2
 I've got 6 in less than 20 minutes - still not BC tho
  • + 15
 Dear guys at Commencal, if you are going to do a Finale Ligure Edition, here are some themes:

- pesto en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pesto
- coniglio alla ligure www.buonissimo.org/lericette/2992_Coniglio_alla_ligure
- focaccia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focaccia
- Ape Piaggio en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_Ape

Ok?
  • + 2
 I feel a sudden lust for more pasta and vino rosso now. Grazie Andrea!
  • + 3
 @Gamsjaga: buon appetito amico!
  • + 11
 Haha not even pretending not to copy Rocky’s editions! Where’s the Andorra edition you sell-outs!!
  • + 1
 Uh, wouldn't every other model be an Andorra edition by default??
  • - 1
 @gtrguy: clearly not!!!! ?
  • + 8
 How about those other BC bike companies and the colour Commencal has just ripped off?
Norco Range 2017 Rocky Mountain Instinct 2018.
  • + 0
 and Knolly's limited edition delirium with the art work... much more appropriate art work at that...
  • + 0
 Edit: think it's better to say contentious rather than appropriate... it's nice art that clearly lends to the PNW... but could rub people the wrong way.
  • + 4
 It's just a trendy color way, like baby blue a few years ago.
  • + 9
 I really like the component spec on both of these! Everything you need, nothing you don't.
  • + 9
 Heated chops, we want new AM29! :]
  • + 7
 +1 for the Chromag love. Wonder why they threw a Volt (yuck) on the Meta and not a Lynx DT (yassss).
  • + 3
 Exactly what i was thinking! Stunning bikes other wise
  • + 7
 Props to Pics!
  • + 4
 Amazing pics!
  • + 2
 I guess you are paying the extra price for the chromag parts and nice paintjob , because there is a cheaper version of the Meta on their website that has got the Lyrik RCT3 and this one has only got the RC version. Otherwise nice looking rides.
  • + 1
 And for 3800€ you get ... Bike park version of the magic Mary. That's the cheapest you can find that's specced on rental bikes.
  • + 2
 "BC Edition" is such a buzz term these days. It's like the "Black Edition" you see in the automotive world. It really doesn't change the way the bike/car handles, but it looks neat.
  • + 1
 A few years ago mountainbike used to be for tough guys and girls, and people that were close to the nature. Now it's full of antifa and political correct bullshit talkers. Haters gonna hate, stop whining and complaining about things that are absolutely not offending your daily life. Less talk show more chainsaw. You feel offended ? Grow up
  • + 4
 commencal makes a handsome steed.
  • + 3
 Also, I like that they included the Southpaw with the KS Lev. About time bike companies start doing this.
  • + 3
 www.bikes.com/en/bikes/instinct/2018?tid=72

Might as well borrow a colour scheme too haha!
  • + 3
 I’m a Commencal lifer...honestly the best bikes I’ve rode.
  • - 1
 @cmcrawfo don't mind him his country still isn't as far ahead as Canada in terms of addressing the atrocities committed on the native people by white colonialists. In Australia's case the aborigines. I've lived in Australia and the way the aborigines are looked upon by white Australians is disgusting. He seems to be the kind of person to tell black people to "get over" slavery.
  • + 3
 great lookin' rig at a great price. job well done.
  • + 3
 Great Photos... bike are not bad as well.
  • + 1
 Sooo, anyone feel this bike worth the extra $700 over the Essential?Also how does the new Rockshox super delux rct compare to Fox DPX2?
  • + 1
 One pic shows a coil on the Meta. I could see pairing that with a Ribbon coil for the ultimate setup.
  • + 2
 holy shit, that Meta must be my next bike!
  • + 3
 1gen Tacoma ????
  • + 21
 Oh that's the Toyota BC edition
  • + 3
 Commencal must have hired a scrub to read Pinkbike comments and come back suggesting they include a Tacoma in a BC edition press release. Immediate Sea to Sky credibility...immediate.
  • + 1
 It's the LAW!
  • + 2
 Shhh don’t disturb the Tacoma in its native habitat.
  • + 1
 haida orange? wow great what about an actual haida reference rather than naming the f*cking orange after them. smfh
  • + 1
 gotta say, the beginning 45 seconds or so were some of the best film I've seen in a long time..
  • + 1
 Where's the khaki? Since when is dark green considered khaki? Bike looks dope tho.
  • + 1
 "3.799 USD" Three dollars and seventy-nine cents is cheaper than a six pack. I'll take a couple.
  • + 4
 Believe it or not, in other parts of the world a period is an acceptable visual maker for thousand. Savages
  • + 1
 Thats a good lookin bike right there...
  • + 1
 A BC edition supreme sx would be bad ass
  • + 1
 Bowen Island has those trails???
  • + 1
 Id hit it. Too bad she’s a pressfit
  • + 1
 Dope beat"!!!!!
  • + 1
 NORCOmmencal Edition?
  • + 1
 Diesel option?
  • + 1
 Ha cool
  • + 0
 Nothing more BRO CORE than BC editions!
  • + 1
 Oozy 350?
  • + 1
 Vibrocore
  • + 0
 Did they make it 29'er? Bawls.
  • + 1
 Music??
  • + 1
 Coil is roil!
  • + 1
 What track was that??
  • - 1
 who the f*ck chokes up on their bars that much???

like dude, cut them down ffs
  • + 1
 I have a mighty want
  • - 1
 BC could stand for "Bull Crap" at least Commencal spelled it out hahaha
  • + 0
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