Remi Thirion Introduces the Commencal Meta AM V.2 - Video

Dec 2, 2016 at 11:52
by COMMENCAL bicycles  
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La Palma, often nicknamed ‘Isla Bonita’ or ‘The Beautiful Island,’ was the destination of choice for Rémi Thirion and his Brushed Meta AM V4.2 to finish off an excellent downhill season, having achieved a 6th place world ranking!

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The view from the highest point of the island, 2400m above the ocean.

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Remi's bike: Commencal Meta AM V4.2 Brushed

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Sunset over the sea, seen from the Roque de Los Muchachos, the highest point of the island.

From the first day on location, we were blown away by the beauty of the place. The Latin American influence was obvious and it’s just 3 hours by plane from France. The island is so diverse; we came across all types of terrain from coastal paths and pine forest to jungle and volcanoes, all in just three days!

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Walking through the streets of Santa Cruz de la Palma, the capital city.

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Calm before the storm.

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bigquotesThis Meta AM V4.2 is a good progression in evolution. It allows more commitment in downhill and through the technical sections. The bike is also more forgiving thanks to its increased travel. In addition, it's lighter and pedals better than its predecessor. - Remi Thirion.

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Jo Camacho, the owner of the estate where we were staying, was our guide on-site from the moment we arrived.

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Known for its ancient trails and landscapes, this island of the Canary archipelago seemed perfect to go and ride enduro. The Meta AM V4.2 was, therefore, the ideal weapon for pedaling in search of the best trails on the mountain, often hidden in the heart of a forest or on volcanic faces.

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Our biggest surprise was this black forest on the side of the main mountain, victim of a fire a few months earlier.

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Remi finding his way in this unreal playground.

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The Brushed version (lighter than a painted frame by up to 60g) of our new Meta V4.2 was also the perfect contrast to the many beautiful colours on this island. With the extra ".2” you get even more; a longer reach, a reworked kinematic and 10mm more travel to help on the up and downhills. All-round performance has been improved because of these new changes and with the added technologies of Boost and Metric, the Meta V4.2 is at the forefront of enduro.

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The golden hour never disappoints, a perfect way to end the day.

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Riding bikes can lead you to unusual places, like this fishing village, hidden between two lava flows at the edge of the ocean.

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Bike and rider cleaned up after a day of filming.

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Beyond just an experience on the bike, riding on this island allowed us to meet the local riders (founders and developers of the majority of the tracks of the island) who guided and helped us throughout filming. We were able to discover incredible places thanks to them and this gave us a little more insight into the way of life and the local culture. To spend time both on and off the bike with these local guys was undoubtedly one of the highlights of our stay.

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Swimming in the ocean at sunset with the locals: an unforgettable moment.

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Polaroid is not dead.

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A tired Rémi, but always smiling after a day on the bike.

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Thirteen international telescopes are installed on this island which is said to have “The purest sky of the Northern Hemisphere".

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La Palma was, therefore, the perfect place to observe the Milky Way from the volcano.

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Check out the full photo album here.


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META AM V4.2 WORLD CUP 650B BRUSHED 2017

Frame
2017 Meta AM V4.2 650b Travel 160mm
Shock
RockShox Super Deluxe RC3, 230x60, 3 positions
Fork
RockShox Lyrik RCT3, 170 mm, solo air, boost
Brakes
SRAM Guide RS, 200mm / 180mm
Rear Mech
SRAM XO1 Eagle, 1 x 12 speed
Cranks
SRAM XO1 EAGLE, 34 T, boost 170 mm on S/M, 175 mm on L/XL
Cassette
SRAM XG 1295, 10–50 T, 12 speed
Rims
Spank Oozy Trail 345 Wheelset, 32 holes, tubeless ready, 30.5mm inner
Weight
13,89 kg
Sizes
S/M/L
Price
4599€ / US$ 4699

The Range starting at 2199€ / US$ 2199 / CAD$ 2899 available on our online store .


MENTIONS: @COMMENCALbicycles




134 Comments

  • + 180
 Commencal, your marketing has worked. I would like 10 of your bicycles please
  • + 42
 I have to admit, this part storyline - part press release is a really cool format.
  • - 6
flag fracasnoxteam (Dec 5, 2016 at 9:34) (Below Threshold)
 double post
  • + 14
 Even a few PODs in here!
  • + 5
 @racecase: I have purchased 2 Commencal's over the past 3 years. My first one is a Supreme FR and loved it so much I bought a Meta AM for my brother. I will be buying a 3rd soon but can't decide between the AM or the TR.
  • + 2
 Hope i can own one of these before i die.
  • + 0
 @twelve02: I am having a hard time deciding between the AM or TR V4.2 as well. I would like to see a back to back review of the two bikes.
  • + 0
 The price is great but if you would've put a threaded bb in there and made it an even 5k I'd be lining up. Do people no longer change their bottom brackets? Bb92 on my sb6c and after the third change you could almost spin the cups all the way around by hand. But the again it is plastic and this is alloy...
  • + 2
 @kcj801: I would love to see that as well. My thinking is that I already have a 180mm bike for the parks and big stuff and that the TR would be perfect for my local and smaller trails. Something super nimble and fun. I'm also looking at the Transition Scout and Patrol as well. Decisions, Decisions.
  • + 1
 @twelve02: The Scout looks super fun. So does the Patrol. I've been riding the Meta AM hard tail for the last couple years. I'm looking for a full suspension that would be my only bike. I don't ride much bike park at all. Mostly rocky and rooty single track and some lower elevation trails that are pretty smooth but fast. I'm thinking the AM and Patrol might be a bit much bike although they would be nice on some of the rougher trails.
  • + 42
 That is the sexiest frame in the market right now, and that meta am v2 is not bad looking either, nyahahahaha, but seriously, from a banshee fanboy, i think that lines and finish is the best out in the market now, if they make it available in Brannigan's world champs decals, that would seriously destroy my future frame plan.
  • + 88
 Be careful stating your opinion on the looks of this bike. Paul might get his feelings hurt again!!
  • - 4
flag metong (Dec 5, 2016 at 2:50) (Below Threshold)
 Agree. Saw 1 at val di sole and it was like seeing hot chicks on bikinis!
  • - 28
flag KeithReeder (Dec 5, 2016 at 4:02) (Below Threshold)
 @OFF2theGYM: Why? Zuman wasn't being an arsehole about his opinions.

You REALLY do't get it, do you?
  • + 3
 I too am a banshee fanboi, but had a commie supreme and loved it. This is my first choice for a longer travel bike (my current full sus is a Spitfire) but I don't think the sizing is large enough for me unfortunately. I need a reach thats in excess of 475cm ish.

those photos of the burned forest are astonishing. wow
  • + 0
 Yeah was close to trying one but decided to stick with Banshee for the time being. Hard to go wrong with the bikes available these days. Not sure why commencal like press fit BB though...
  • + 1
 @fingerbangextreme: also a spitty user here, was already decided on the new spitty for its lighter weight, but the longer reach is causing a little hesitation, the current small is already too long for my short limbs. if only the local distributor for commencal would sell it for fare market price here.
  • + 27
 LOOK AT THE PRICE !! so reasonable !! santacruz or specialized with samesetup you dont know how but you will pay 9K Big Grin
  • - 12
flag Brdjanin (Dec 5, 2016 at 3:51) (Below Threshold)
 For that price -100 eu more- you can buy Enduro 29er 2017 model with carbon frame, so i dont find this bike so much cheaper...
  • + 13
 @Brdjanin: Carbon frame with much lower specs. Compare it to the Enduro Pro Carbon which comes with Eagle for 6300€ and you still get a little bit more (carbon crankset) with the META so the difference is there...

The V4.2 Ride for 2500€ has the same specs as the 4700€ Enduro Elite carbon.
  • + 53
 Only an absolute noob buys a carbon frame with lower spec over the alu version of the same bike with better spec, especially when it comes to the shock. Just because it's carbon it doesn't mean anything inless you are a cluless kook
  • + 24
 @WAKIdesigns: Legit question to you Waki: isn't easier to upgrade parts along the way than to change your frame ?
hypothetical example: you have the budget for a new bike you crave and that you plan to ride for a long time. For about the same price you can either pick the carbon frame with lower spec or the alu version of the same bike with better spec.
Over the years, you'll have to replace parts anyway, so that will be a chance to upgrade. And when a bit more money comes in, you can upgrade some other key parts by hunting deals on CRC.
The frame is that one part that tends to last longer than all the others; might as well get the carbon one to start with. It tends to be lighter, stiffer, and.... and,,, and well that's it. EDIT: forget it, you might be right.
  • + 5
 @WAKIdesigns: thank God I'm at the frames only carbon options stages of my life nowadays!
  • + 6
 @Bragelonne: you are right, but then you have to be careful or you end up spending far too much again that you may as well have bought another bike! I agree with both you and Waki on a way - you should pick the bike with the best balance of frame and parts. Set your budget and stick to it!
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 @Bragelonne: the frame lasts longer only because it is the most expensive bit. In 26" era my fork survived 2 frames. Now goes into the third one. Moneywise you are never ever better off by upgrading the bike, unless you are shagging your brain and and wasting your time away to find cheap parts. You may as well take a loan to buy the more expensive bike. I do build bikes in parts, saving money over complete builds, but many don't have time and knowledge, and they are all better for it, I bought only one complete bike in my life: Kona Jake - for commuting) Recently there's been a big difference in frame geometry, so in-the-know folks are eager to swap frames too. Clueless folks sell 26" or 29" bike from 2012, but 275 bike which has geometry, better suspension, better wheels, tyres, brakes, drivetrain and what not, and give merit to improved bike handling and efficiency to fkng wheelsize. Everytime some clueless bloke (read: normal human being, not a nutter like me) sees my bike, they focus on frame material. Ooooh you have carbon. If Antidote made an alu version of their carbon frame I'd take it to save cash. There is nothing in my very personal opinion that carbon frame gives over a modern high quality aluminium frame, unless you deal with assymetric swingarm which may lead to imbalance when cornering hard or doing manual or wheelies, due to difference in stiffness from one side to another, and carbon is stiffer.

Durability wise I cased too many jumps on my 2008 Nomad and tornmented wives 1.4 aluminium coke can XC frame, to care and then messed up the carbon Blur TRc by hitting a rock on a climb. A 3mm bit on the swingarm under the lower bearing chipped away, and after several cases of 20ft jumps a crack started appearing around the place. SC used to say they have the best carbon in the business.

My current frame is carbon but it's a long story, the opportunity to buy it came along when I was in the search of Enduro 29 in alu in a good shape. I'd rather buy a quality alu frame and put the money on some super cool shock like Öhlins TTX or EXT Storia
  • + 9
 @Bragelonne: I went the route you are suggesting. I bought the package that had the frame/fork I wanted for a reasonable price (2014 Troy with a Pike). The rest was a pretty low end kit, but serviceable. Avid 3 brakes, lower end cranks, heavy wheels. I upgraded the wheels after 6 months when a 40% off sale came up. I got new cranks used for a really good price, after 8 months. New handle bar when a used one came up cheap, and new brakes (MT7s) when they were on sale for 60% off after a year and a half. Everything else were upgrades when normal consumable parts wore out and would have had to been done regardless of the original kit.

So I paid 3k (USD) for the base bike. And best I can figure about 1.2k for the upgrades. I now have exactly what I want and a kit that is arguably better than the top end kit of the time, for about 1k less dollars. So that route worked for me. But it took time and patience and knowing I was committed to that frame.
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 @pcmxa: for me the only interesting bit with upgrades of lower spec bike is that you upgrade what you want, like fork/shock and wheels. I could leave out the drivetrain and brakes once I get the bike at SLX/ X1 level. Hell, I am so impressed with Deore brakes that I just bought, that the only upgrade from this for me would be Saints.
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 @WAKIdesigns: For me it was getting exactly what I wanted. The cranks were as much about the length as the level of quality (went to XX1 170mm), the wheels were reasonably wide, light aluminum (Spank Oozy 295 (since I am brutal on wheels)), the brakes are overkill, but make the bike surprisingly park capable and the Avid 3s, though they held up for a year and a half, became atrocious once they needed to be bled. So I ended up with exactly what I want on a bike, with components that are considerably better in some cases than what came on the higher spec'd model, for quite a bit less. Took time though. Not saying it is a route for everyone. Not even really advocating for anything, just thinking through my own use case. I was riding yesterday, and realized there was not one thing on the bike I would upgrade unless it broke.
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flag Wouldhaveletmego (Dec 5, 2016 at 8:50) (Below Threshold)
 @WAKIdesigns: have you lost your mind? Carbon frame always is the first priority. youre cheating yourself on the trail if you intentionally go with aluminum.
  • + 6
 @Wouldhaveletmego: If Remi had done that on a unicycle, @WAKIdesigns would be telling us that we don't need two wheels
  • - 1
 @truffy: a wheel is not an invention. Two wheels are.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Carbon is advantageous because the engineer can make it stiffer in one area over another. Which can in turn lead to a better handling bike. Not all companies are on that level of refinement, but it is out there.
  • + 0
 @muddybeast: Yes, apart from the fact that if you bring a carbon frame or rim to the point where it isn't brittle anymore, so it survives gravity MTB riding, it is stiff as fk in all directions
  • - 1
 Carbon sucks 4130 4 lyf yo.
  • + 8
 @thenotoriousmic: 831 or be gone peasant
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 @WAKIdesigns: what is 831? I only know of 853
  • - 1
 Can I edit my post to say t45 4 lyf yo?
  • + 1
 @bosnianrider: except that Eagle i dont see anything that much better on Comencial in general and like Bragelonne said it is much easier for you to upgrade parts later on than to change frame.
  • + 1
 @Bragelonne: he is always right... for so long that he forgot where is left.
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 @makripper: aaaah fk, was meant to write 631. 853 is too mainstream.
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: what is this, amateur hour? 631 is huffy rated steel alloy
  • + 2
 @pcmxa: "I was riding yesterday, and realized there was not one thing on the bike I would upgrade unless it broke."
Zen state
  • + 1
 @pcmxa: Indeed, time and patience. That"s what I do for my set ups. It often pays off when you go for the cheap version and then upgrade, but you need to be sure of what you want to upgrade and keep chasing for good deals (mainly during off season when everybody wants to empty the warehouses)
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 @WAKIdesigns: I respectfully disagree. If carbon was always made to be 'stiff' so as to not be brittle, can you explain carbon leaf springs? What about the carbon/glass (iirc) coils Audi is using? After having witnessed bicycle frames of both carbon and aluminum being tested I can say for certain carbon frames flex under normal loading, some far more than one might suspect.
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 @muddybeast: don't you think that cars put waaaay more load on carbon elements than 80kg human even when they drive 25km/h. Isn't it a matter of scale?

For instance. A quality sub 1kg XC frame or 30g carbon rim could highly probably take casing of a 5m jump because there's enough stiffness and strength in the material. Now if you tried that on a 1.2kg aluminium Scott Team Issue from 2004 and ZTR Alpina rims, you'd stop in one place with rims folding in half and fork getting in line with the downtube and seat stays in your arse.

Now in order to survive a weekend of EWS, we all know that aluminium frames need to weigh around 2.8kg without the shock and rims need to be in ZTR Flow EX/MK3, DT Ex471 area of 500g. You just need this much material to survive forces coming at the bike from terrain. My 2.2kg Blur TRc was stiff enough for anything I desired it to do, I have never felt it flexing. So theoretically, you could build a carbon Nomad at 2.2kg and get enough stiffness, as long as it would not come in contact with rocks at speed. But you need to beef it up to make it less brittle, and the only way to do that is to provide thickness in critical areas. So you end up with a frame that is strong and stiff as f*ck. It is not a problem on a frame but it is a problem on a rim or handlebar. A carbon rim able to survive park or shuttle days needs to come in 450 gram area, in order to cope with inevitable bottom outs of tyre to the rim. And at this weight, at this amount of material, put there solely for the purpose of withstanding very local hits, it is too stiff to be able to bend sideways and twist across the section. Renthal stated it themselves: it was very hard to design a carbon handlebar in 35mm diameter to provide same damping characteristics of 31.8.

So the crux of use of carbon fibre in gravity bikes, is that in order to overcome the hits to objects, weight of frames and components need to be brought to levels just under their modern aluminium counterparts, which clearly stand up to the task.

In this way the benefit of weight saving is nearly gone while hit resistance is comparable and you are left with a massive surplus of strength and stiffness that is hard to utilize. Add differences between particular types of carbon fibre used to build and ways of manufacture of high end carbon frames to cheap ones, and youend up with a huge question mark whether it is better to buy a quality aluminium frame or spend more cash for whatever carbon frame or MUCH more cash for a high end carbon.
  • + 0
 Carbon sucks metal rules.
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 @thenotoriousmic: you are made of carbon sooooo
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 @makripper: people think that trees grow from the ground, but in fact they grow from the air using carbon dioxide to build their structure from carbon... come with me and you'll be in the wooorld of pure imagination...
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 @WAKIdesigns: So true. Maybe the next best material will be carbon extracted from human farms.
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 @makripper: not me mate I'm made from few sexual desire... don't act like you don't feel it.
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 @thenotoriousmic: i can feel it. i'm getting a raging broner
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 @WAKIdesigns: I can appreciate your opinion built on observation however, from an engineering stand point the only argument you have to stand on is that carbon holds different risks associated with a crash. Otherwise your claims are relative. Carbon is so much more than the simple process of picking a tube size, cloth and thickness. There's the resin, how the resin flowed, the temperatures and pressures used, etc. That is the real challenge with carbon fiber, and also the real benefit. A well designed bike, as I stated, can take all of these things into consideration and make a better handling bike. I've personally worked with some of the industries best engineers...there's a lot more to it than meets the eye.
  • + 12
 Some of the best photos I've seen here in a while. Great work. Got the chance to ride a Meta AM this fall. Is a no bullshit serious Enduro rocket.
  • + 9
 Watching Thirion shred...

*palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy*
  • + 13
 There's vomit on his Meta - Jo's spaghetti
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 @Theeeeo: Snap back to reality, oh there goes gravity
  • + 3
 do not miss your chance to blow
  • + 1
 you can do anything to set your Pike to
  • + 13
 it was going great till @WAKIdesigns screwed up the lyrik's
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 @Theeeeo: here comes Waki's cold water
De de doom da doom
  • + 4
 Beautiful bike, great video, want those skills, the photographs though, love to see slomos of a shock working on a bike vid (more suspension action in videos pls), Remi Thirion is a beast, total overflow in the best way possible.
  • + 7
 I want the same bike, the same outfit, the same trails, and finally the same skills, which I will probably never have...
  • + 3
 what a defeatist
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 @RedBurn: Nope, I guess it's just called being realistic...
  • + 9
 I'll just take the skills... I think the rest would work itself out from there. Smile
  • + 6
 wow that was an amazing video, the music, the riding, the colours. Awesome. And remi thirion is such an amazing rider. And then some of those photos!
  • + 7
 I love my 4.2, thank you Commencal for making an affordable race-ready bike!
  • + 1
 Honestly i love mine
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 Love the clean speak look of the bike and Remy's riding style. However I also felt like I just watched the clip of Honda's 2017 intro with KRoc just slaying it on a perfectly groomed tracked. I would love to see what a mere mortal would look like slaying the trails compared to Remy as you can find online of some scrub of Honda's intro that is trying to come close to KRoc's super human speed.
  • + 1
 I really wish they would make a 29er version. Their frames are exactly what I look for in a new race bike - easy to get replacement parts, available in alloy still with the top level geometry and parts (or in this case, only alloy), and not so expensive that I feel like I'm riding something I have to "be careful" of. It's not chump change but I feel much better about beating on a $1500 alloy frame than a $3500 carbon one, and if I do break it, I can afford to replace it in the middle of a season without cleaning out my bank account.
  • + 3
 RT rules! Such a down to earth kinda guy, been on the radar since his 13' Andorra dazelling victory. Would deffiniatly consider the META as my next purchase
  • + 1
 When I first saw that table though the tree I was thinking about how I never have had great luck throwing steeze and staying clipped in. Then I saw the outtake and it reminded me that even the pros have the same issues. Still not willing to commit to clipless on the DH bike though..
  • + 4
 Remi been hittin the gym! Boys an animal!!
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 Thought he looked bulked up
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 Can't comment about the music (I'm at work) but the scenery and Remi's riding are insane !
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 The photos are amazing. Makes me want to buy a Commencal , ride it through a burnt out Forrest, than take acid and stare at Milky Way and the bike.
  • + 0
 It is ridiculous, that Commencal has the need to set a price (RRP whatever) and discount it from the first day. That makes no sense and does not give the impression that the product has a higher value. Not if 100% of the bikes in the store are discounted!

BTW
La Palma is just one of the finest places on Earth and the bike looks great!
  • + 2
 Hi, is there already someone who has ridden the nomad and 2017 pivot firebird, that can tell me the diffrence?
The negatives and possitves, thanks.
  • + 1
 Bike would be perfect but 490mm seat tube puts be on a 125mm dropper. Why such a long seat tube on the large? Other than that beautiful bike.
  • + 2
 Kit, bike, and landscape are dialed! They should include that fox kit with the bike!
  • + 0
 I don't doubt it's a great bike, 2 of our boys ride them but I still think that the 3 piece to tube looks odd and the V3 is better looking IMO. I've also just brought a new V3 so loving the price reductions on those!
  • + 1
 I totally agree that the V3 is one of the best looking frames. Timeless classic with good geometry.
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 error
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 Très bien ces cadres mais pourquoi n'existe-il pas en carbon?
Very well these frames but why does not there exist in carbon?
  • + 1
 So good I had to betray my ideals and favorite an advert. Props to a really well done video, photo shoot. Love it
  • + 1
 Am I the only one thinking "Holy shit! He's got massive calves!" Jared Graves got some competition Wink
  • + 1
 Pretty nice video there--drone shots not super appreciated. Nice forest though, and good scrubs
  • + 0
 How does the V4.2 honestly climb? I live where we can have 45+ minutes of fire road or single track of climbing before I every see a downhill.
  • + 3
 I have the V4, which is slightly less travel so its got like a half a degree steeper head angle. i climb just fine on mine its the same way around here in utah. gotta earn them downhills haha.
  • + 1
 Commencal's marketing always delivers. Great Content and this bike looks absolutely epic!
  • + 1
 Commencal pretty much has it's promo videos down to a fine art now.....GOD I WANT THIS BIKE!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 He could make a Walmart bike look awesome on the trail. He should expand his advertising to many other companies.
  • + 2
 Shame they don't supply any brakes! :O
  • + 1
 I just got a new one of these v4.2s and its one of the best bikes I have ever ridden
  • + 2
 Sik bike, promo and riding!!!!! I want one now
  • + 1
 Im not much of a fan of raw bikes but something about that just does it for me that others dont.
  • + 1
 The aluminum raw color frames are making a comeback! Badass and manly!
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 DAMNN!!! one of the best pics i seen this year!! EPIC as hell!
  • + 1
 Mint...he could make most bikes look rad!
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 Does anyone know what pedals he is using? Are those the HT T1?
  • + 1
 any one know why remy left Commencal?
  • + 1
 man I hate it when my foot comes out the clip while I'm hitting a jump.
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 Defo, best place ever to take some good pics.
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 Nice enough article and very sweet looking frame.....
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 Gorgeous photos, color grading, and riding. Props to all involved.
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 Brushed Aluminum FTW
  • + 1
 Holy crap, those pics are amazing. Big props to the photog.
  • + 1
 that one kinked chain link is killing me.
  • + 1
 This is the Sin City of MTB edits Loved it
  • + 1
 I love my Mondraker Dune RR...
  • + 1
 This bike is something, but these pictures ... Fantastic
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 Final scene is Prois de Candelaria for anyone wondering.
  • + 1
 Photos and video are absolutely top. Major props!
  • + 1
 Take my money! Looks tip top.
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 Remi's got 650b + calves!
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 Real purdy.
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 WOW !
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 Is he clipped in?
  • + 2
 yup
  • + 1
 most racers are. (not all, but 99%)
  • - 1
 Why do I have a problem spending that much on a 14 kg/30 lb bike? Am I too XC?
  • + 3
 Yes. Keep in mind this is essentially a downhill bike that you can ride up hills on.
  • + 1
 Gawd I loved raw frames.
  • - 1
 Downhills dead it's all about enduro these days as another pro downhiller promotes the fuck out of yet another enduro bike.
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 It's definitely dying a slow death as long travel trail bikes allow you to do almost everything.
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 @nyhc00: it obviously isn't or the bike industry wouldn't be useing they're pro downhillers to sell enduro bikes.
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 I was referring to the bikes themselves, not the entire aspect of riding. And why wouldn't a company use its best rider to showcase a bike closely related to its DH counterpart?
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 @nyhc00: that's definitely not the case ether without downhill bikes you wouldn't have these long travel trail bikes to do everything on in the first place.
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 why press fit BB? Frown
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 possibly an astro catalouge like some pf the earlier ones.
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