Cane Creek Announces New Hellbender 70 Bottom Bracket & T47 Hellbender Neo Bottom Bracket

May 21, 2020 at 14:28
by Cane Creek  

PRESS RELEASE: Cane Creek

We are proud to announce the release of our all-new Hellbender 70 bottom bracket and the addition of T47 sizing to the existing line of Hellbender Neo bottom brackets.

The Hellbender 70 bottom bracket utilizes a bearing made of 440C stainless steel, providing exceptional ride quality and reliability. While not quite as resistant to contamination as the SKF MTRX bearings found in our Hellbender Neo bottom bracket, the stainless steel bearing provides excellent durability and corrosion resistance and creates slightly less drag.

bigquotesThe stainless steel bearing in the Hellbender 70 strikes a perfect balance between value and lasting performance - It doesn’t matter if you have a $1,200 bike or a $12,000 bike, the Hellbender 70 bottom bracket is going to be an impactful and lasting upgrade.Eric Smith, Director of Supply Chain at Cane Creek

Hellbender 70 bottom brackets are machined from 6061 – T6 aluminum with an anodized black finish and are available in BSA30, PF30, BB30 and T47 in both 30mm and 29mm (DUB) sizing as well as PF41 in 30mm only.

Specifications:
• Cups/Shell Material – 6061 Aluminum T6
• Finish – Black Anodized
• Bearings – Premium 440C Stainless Steel
• Variations – BSA Threaded, PF41, PF30, BB30, T47
• Spindle Diameter – 30mm, 29mm
Cane Creek Cycling Components

BSA30, PF30, BB30, PF41/92 and T47



Additionally, Hellbender Neo bottom brackets are now available in T47 for 30mm only. 29mm (DUB) sizing is not available for Hellbender Neo bottom brackets at this time.

The Hellbender Neo bottom bracket is our premium bottom bracket, the defining feature of which is our Cane Creek Hellbender Neo bearing. The bearings incorporate Swedish manufacturer SKF’s patented MTRX technology – an oil-filled, solid polymer matrix that completely fills the free space in the bearing. During use, oil is released from micro-pores in the polymer, continuously lubricating the bearings.

The Cane Creek Hellbender 70 bottom bracket starts at $99 for popular models. The Hellbender Neo T47 retails for $150. Both products are available now through Cane Creek distributors and retailers or rider-direct in North America through www.canecreek.com.

Cane Creek Cycling Components - Bottom Brackets


88 Comments

  • 45 4
 OH HELL YES! The Hellbender headset is a staple in our shop and we're stoked to have the BB's in more configurations now.

Two thumbs up Cane Creek! ????????
  • 9 1
 I put a bunch of thumbs up emoji's and it changed them to question marks, haha.
  • 8 0
 @the-lost-co: it looks like you are excitedly confused.
  • 2 0
 DANG!!! I just put a Wheels Mfg BB in my 2017 Kona Process 153 last week. Cane Creek is 10 minutes away from my house.
  • 1 0
 @blowmyfuse: I've had two bikes with Wheel MFG BBs. Gotta love how easy they are to service...
  • 1 0
 @Arepiscopo: yeah...I like it. Checked with Cane Creek. Wont work with my current cranks. They offered to sell it to me with a set of eewings. Hah...which cost more than the rest of my bike. Smile
  • 1 0
 @the-lost-co: They showed up on my computer... why all the eggplants?
  • 27 4
 >29mm (DUB) sizing is not available for Hellbender Neo bottom brackets at this time.

I bet they just weren't able to achieve that 28.99mm precision
  • 3 1
 Only the Neo. The normal black is aviable in DUB
  • 48 2
 Or they didn't feel like adding a useless sizing which nobody else is adopting for cranks and SRAM will replace with something else in a couple years anyway which they will claim is better than the previous standard while continuing to deny its their inability to source proper bearings that is the problem.
  • 8 1
 @deeeight: Ouch. Haha, but spot on. Small balls, shallow race, big problems.
  • 17 0
 @Bustacrimes: Small balls are a problem?

Dang.
  • 7 2
 Unpopular opinion here but my dub bb has lasted way longer than the shimano and especially the RF bbs it replaced. I think Sram did something right here, marketing bs aside.
  • 3 0
 @McKai: I thought the same for a while then it started to creak so I removed it in the hope of cleaning and re-greasing and it imploded. I replaced it with another SRAM one and it's running well so I guess they work but are basically disposable.
  • 8 0
 @McKai: well, the comparison to RF is just.... I mean... RF bottom brackets are notorious garbage that never last more than a season.
  • 1 1
 @McKai:

Apples and Oranges comparison... since Shimano doesn't manufacture for the DUB interface/standard at all... you had to have replaced the cranks also to have gone from Shimano to DUB, and not all shimano BBs are created equal. There's a reason an XTR BB costs a lot more than an Acera BB.
  • 1 0
 @McKai: my 30mm hope BB has been smooth and silent for 15000km through heavy dust and crap , ive opend it once to clean and apply some grease to the bearing seals

Larger bearings spread the load better and I really think its that simple , large bearings and A solid design and you've got A winner
  • 5 2
 @BaGearA: Dub just like dumb hope 30mm works only with threaded BB. They are a disaster for any pressfit since you no longer can use oversized outboard bearing. I want data for twisted and bent 24mm axles. Must be hell of a problem. Not. Every company making 30mm axles can go screw themselves and I’ve bennsaying this before Pinkbike discovered Hambini
  • 1 0
 @deeeight: while that is sound training that isn't actually why. Cane Creek doesn't offer a hellbender neo bb in dub because they're using off the shelf bearings. Skf doesn't make a bearing with the internal diameter dub needs. Cane Creek either doesn't have the clout or the wherewithal to get a custom bearing in the solid matrix spec. That's also the reason Cane Creek doesn't make a hellbender neo headset. Headset bearings aren't a standard size so no fancy bearings for them.
  • 1 0
 Reasoning not training
  • 2 0
 @McKai: Same here, Sram DUBs last longer than the Shimano press fit we used in all the Trek Factory Racing team bikes. Will have to try one of these Cane Creeks though. Love their headsets.
  • 20 3
 Honest question for the bearing geeks: If you're going to spend $100 on a BB, why would you get anything but a Chris King?
  • 5 6
 to go with their fancy overpriced eeWings
  • 9 0
 The CK BBs are $150-$180. Personally, I bought a Hellbender Neo BB because it was $30 less than the equivalent King BB and because I was curious about the bearings.
  • 9 0
 I have had Chris King bottom brackets, they still require maintenance and utilization of grease port (which is a good feature, but does require maintenance).

I currently have a Cane Creek Hellbender Neo which requires ZERO maintenance. Its a completely sealed system. This BB does have a little resistance for the first few rides, which Cane Creek acknowledges, but it breaks in and is very smooth now. I regularly hose (not pressure wash) my bikes after riding in wet loamy PNW conditions. Having a completely sealed BB like the Hellbender Neo is super awesome.
  • 12 6
 Why buy Chris King to start with?
  • 8 1
 I would spend $500 on this bottom bracket.

If it came with free eewings.
  • 4 0
 I like my White Industries BB!
  • 2 1
 All my King BBs (three of them) developed some minor play in them over time. I don't think it was the bearing, though, rather the conversion kit components wearing down and creating some slop.
  • 5 0
 Wheels Manufacturing. I have had several, bullet proof and just as quality as King.
  • 1 0
 @p0g0: To blend in with the socialites.
  • 1 0
 I’ prefer c-bear cycling bb, last longer than stock sram gxp or shimano
  • 10 1
 Isn't a bottom bracket just a couple of machined cups that hold the bearings which actually do the work?
Pretty sure most bottom brackets don't even have lips seals, just the bearing seal and the plastic reusable inner sleeve.
The MTX bearings are available widely and cost about 20 us each and they're easy to change.
Not trying to be a dick just saying that if you're replacing an existing bottom bracket, for about 40 bucks you could be running the new MTX bearings in your old cups.
  • 13 2
 £15 for an XT BB - not the only reason I run shimano cranks
  • 5 0
 Was gonna say exactly the same. Picked up a Saint BB for £20 And Shimano cranks are so easy to remove I'd always use them.

Had some Race Face a few years back that required some Herculean level of torque on the retaining bolt it was ridiculous I'm comparison to how nice the 2 bolt and preload system is.
  • 6 0
 I wonder if Cane Creek is pissed that the proof reader didn't catch the broken link back to their site?
  • 9 0
 pink bike proof reader lol
  • 2 0
 Most bike bearings like the enduro ones use chromium steel for the balls, which is harder wearing than stainless. Stainless won't rust obviously. But that shouldn't be an issue if you use enough grease I think.
  • 1 0
 Shiz, will this improve my shiz? I currently have a Shimano XT M8000 bottom bracket. Was looking into buying a Hambini bottom bracket recently, but he doesn't make them for mountain bikes. For that much monies it has to be an improvement no?
  • 1 0
 Wrong spindle diameter anywho............
  • 2 2
 The link to Cane Creek (first one after the press release quote from CC) has a double protocol declaration and space in it - %20 so the link doesn't work in a browser without manually stripping that out Frown

The broken URL in the article is %20https//www.canecreek.com/product/hellbender-70-bottom-bracket

Actual URL - www.canecreek.com/product/hellbender-70-bottom-bracket

IT guy here so I notice those sorts of things.
  • 3 0
 Does this require the preload for my dub cranks? Or do they make one that won’t break?
  • 1 0
 Oddly enough I just don’t seem to wear out BB’s or Headsets, so I just get the regular stuff and save some cash. Nice idea with the polymer grease, Shane they can’t use it in everything.
  • 4 1
 I'll stick with Chris King, still on same headset from the 2008!
  • 1 0
 My Hellbender headsets have been serving me well, and conveniently I just learned I had a need for a new 30mm BB. That was easy.
  • 1 0
 If you're going to drop the $$$ for eewings, may as well get a ceramic bottom bracket. The Rotor 30 BSA Ceramic is quite nice with eewings.
  • 2 0
 Love my Hellbender BB. I pressure wash the shit out of it.
  • 1 0
 How was drag compared to a conventional bearing?
  • 10 0
 @JasonALap: tight at first but she loosened up
  • 3 0
 @JasonALap: It's noticeable in the stand when you try to spin the cranks freely (they only go about 1-2 revolutions with no chain attached, but I haven't noticed it when pedaling. They're very smooth.
  • 1 0
 @cameronb8: Time to put a ring on it
  • 1 0
 When are you going to announce the real goods?
Not saying these are not amazing.But you know what im saying.
  • 1 0
 I wonder if the Chris king adapters would work for dub setup.
  • 1 3
 I still can not for the life of me figure out exactly what it is that Dub fixed......hell, or even a press in BB for that matter.
  • 3 2
 @RoadStain: Dub fixed the issues of GXP.
  • 1 1
 @RoadStain: Or at least some of the issues...
  • 4 0
 @RoadStain: took bb30 and gxp and made a single sized crank spindle. the same crank works with either BB so its easy to swap between bikes with only needing to buy a new bb if the shell is different. Its been great in the shop where we only have to carry a couple of cranks (the expensive part) because of arm length and then its just the few different bottom brackets (the cheaper part). takes us from about 6 different cranks down to two.
  • 2 0
 @biker245: but 30mm spindles can also be used with any bb standard if you use the appropriate bb. What did going to 28.99 change?
  • 1 2
 @thegoodflow: Dude, girth is everything
  • 4 1
 @thegoodflow: that's the problem. 30mm axle in the small pf standard didn't allow for either adequate sealing or big enough balls (can't remember which, maybe both) where the extra 1.01mm allows for it, the 28.99 was them basically bragging about their axle tolerances, it'll be a 29mm inside diameter on the bearing.
  • 2 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: Sounds like the source of the problem is with the small PF standard then.
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: Yes, worst BB standard ever and hopefully gonna disappear with the advent of T47
  • 2 1
 @thegoodflow: no. The source of the problem is trying to fit a 30mm axle in it. Basically companies trying to offer more products, even when it doesn't make sense. It should have been the pf equivalent to the standard 24mm external bbs, and for those cranks they're fine, but companies claiming 30mm would work with all old bb standards is the problem, they should have just manned up and said 'no, it's a new standard with bigger bearings and needs a bigger shell, end of' instead of trying to say 'don't worry, this new improved set up will work with your old flawed set up'.
  • 1 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: dub uses the same size bearings, they just have a plastic "hat" that covers the bearing. No additional size at all. Just different enough to not be compatible with other brands.
  • 1 0
 @RoadStain: Doesn’t happen much but I’ve scraped two frames in my life due to seized threaded bottom brackets. You’l never get that issue with a press fit bottom bracket. Honestly at this point I don’t see the point in threaded bottom brackets.
  • 1 0
 @thenotoriousmic: Anti seize grease.
  • 1 1
 Now I can appease my OCD by matching my Bottom Bracket to my Headset - soothing actually.
  • 1 0
 Looks like Wheels Manufacturing....
  • 5 0
 But unlike Wheels MFG, Cane Creek isn't going to sell you angular contact bearings for a BB standard that has no preload adjustment. That's the difference between a company based around a CNC lathe and a company that actually knows what a bearing does.
  • 1 0
 @JVance: is there a problem with using angular contact bearings with cranks that use wave washers for preload?
  • 3 0
 @JVance: Many of the 30mm cranks have a threaded preload adjuster.
  • 2 0
 @thegoodflow: The GXP wave washer was only intended to hold the outer BB seal against the bearing; it's not intended for bearing preload whatsoever. Unless that washer is shimmed so that it is completely flat when the crank is installed (which then becomes a crap-shoot whether you are under- or over-shimmed using the stack of shims Wheels MFG provides), the wave washer will flex under whatever thrust forces are transmitted through the angular contact bearings, and the bearings will wear prematurely.
  • 3 0
 @Jshemuel: Absolutely. The threaded preload adjuster is a correct method to establish preload on angular contact bearings.
  • 1 0
 @JVance: I was thinking in the context of a 30mm hollowgram crank, and yes it is shimmed so the wave washer is completely flat. Just picked up a set of angular contact bearings for it and was curious if that will be a problem.
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: It will be a problem if the bearings do not have enough preload and/or dustshield deforms under the thrust load. I'm under the impression the stock bearing is a radial bearing, and the wave washer simply prevents lateral movement of the crank while holding the dust-shield against the bearing...C'Dale recommends 0.3-0.5mm of clearance from bind in that washer, which would be detrimental to maintaining thrust in an angular contact bearing.
  • 1 0
 @JVance: I've never really understood the use of angular contact bearings in a bottom bracket. They sound sexy but are intended for use where there is axial force in one direction.
Wouldn't we be better off with a quality deep groove roller bearing?
I guess the flex on the crank does create a limited amount of axial movement.
  • 1 0
 I have a like new set of Eewings cranks if anybody is interested. Wink
  • 1 0
 yes i am! what size?
  • 1 0
 @aflyingdutchman: I lied, they are 170mm.
  • 1 0
 nice! now we need a NEO DUB BB!
  • 1 0
 I bet these will give my 10 Euro Deore BB a run for its money!
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