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Enduro Tech Randoms - Leogang World Cup 2024

Jun 7, 2024 at 2:43
by Nick Bentley  



A pretty solid tool and tube wrap
A pretty solid tool and tube wrap

It was a muddy practice day for the Enduro riders.
It was a muddy practice day for the enduro racers.

these Ancillotti s are a work of art.
Ancilloti didn't hold back on the head tube gussets for this frame.

Running formula forks to to keep it as Italian as they can
Running a Formula forks to to keep it as Italian as they can.

They really are unique bikes.
They really are unique bikes.

If you are a fan of raw aluminum and beautiful lines then an Ancillotti is for you.

More Flight Attendant shocks under the mud at Specialized.
More Flight Attendant shocks under the mud at Specialized.

It was a tough day for the DT Swiss mechanics. This was their pile of dead rims at 13 00 just over halfway through the day.
It was a tough day for the DT Swiss mechanics. This was their pile of dead rims at 13:00, just over halfway through the day.

Fresh washers ready to go
Fresh washers ready to go

Some shiny DT-swiss parts
Some shiny DT Swiss parts

Everything you could need to rebuild their hubs
Everything you could need to rebuild their hubs.

All neatly stored away
All neatly stored away.

Every bearing too
Every bearing too.

A rare moment the truing stand wasn t in use at DT-Swiss. There have been a lot of riders for the service teams to work with this weekend.
A rare moment: the truing stand wasn't in use at DT Swiss. There have been a lot of riders for the service teams to work with this weekend.

A mini compressor for Martin Maes instead of a pump or a cartrage
A mini compressor for Martin Maes instead of a pump or a cartridge

Its all about gold for Orbea
It's all about gold for Orbea.

There was a queue for the work stand at Rocky Mountain
There was a queue for the workstand at Rocky Mountain.

The mud was pretty bad on enduro practice day and with rain overnight race day could be tough too.
The mud was pretty bad on enduro practice day, and with rain overnight race day could be tough too.

Nothing to see here.
A RockShox SuperDeluxe Flight Attendant shock in for a rebuild.

Sprindex is fitted for some of the Specialized riders to allow them to get the exact spring rate they need and by the look of it a cable-run remote lockout too.
Sprindex is fitted for some of the Specialized riders to allow them to get the exact spring rate they need, and by the look of it, a cable-actuated remote lockout too.

Good to see some pumps on bikes amongst all the air canisters and mini compressors people are using now.
Good to see some pumps on bikes amongst all the air canisters and mini compressors people are using now.

but also a CO2 canister to.
But also a CO2 canister too.

Enduro is home to the most Rider Mechanics of any world cup discipline
Enduro is home to the most rider mechanics of any World Cup discipline

Not everyone is running crazy electric gears.

A quick brake leaver adjustment
A quick brake lever adjustment

The enduro guys were hard at work sorting wheels too after practice.
The enduro guys were hard at work sorting wheels out after practice.

There is plenty of Srams T-type AXS to be found in the enduro pits.
There are plenty of SRAM T-type AXS drivetrains in the enduro pits.

This Forbidden was missing a few parts after practice.
A Forbidden getting rebuilt after practice.

Srams Green mineral oil ready to go
SRAM's green mineral oil ready to go

These Saint brakes may be old but there still holding strong
These Saint brakes may be old but they're still holding strong

Custom paint to for Richie
Custom paint to for Richie.

Also Richie has the Fox RAD system on his suspension.
Also, Richie has the Fox RAD system on his suspension.

and is running a Pademelon steering damper.
And is running a Pademelon steering damper.


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68 Comments
  • 62 1
 Kind of ironic, a hand pump on an e-bike.......
  • 16 38
flag rocky-x FL (Jun 7, 2024 at 10:55) (Below Threshold)
 hate to be an internet dickhead but ain't that more of a paradox?
  • 31 0
 Got to give it to Ancilloti,staying true to their original frame design after 25 years. And still looks awesome!
  • 4 0
 The round tubing definitely gives an old school look
  • 25 2
 re: "Enduro is home to the most rider mechanics of any World Cup discipline"

This makes me a bit sad. If not for the wrenching/engineering aspect, I might have lost interest in bikes at a young age. It's always seemed part of the intent of the bicycle...it's a tinker's thing first and foremost.
  • 20 2
 Im confused as to why this makes you a "bit sad"

its riders actually working and tinkering with their bikes, which you appreciate....

Theres always going to be one discipline that has "more" of whatever over other ones, enduro just has more
  • 14 1
 @onawalk:

That there are disciplines in which the skills are ignored or lost. I'm old enough to recall a time when there were still a few F1 drivers who were wrench-capable, and old enough to have forgotten their names.
  • 2 9
flag onawalk (Jun 7, 2024 at 12:01) (Below Threshold)
 @thomasjkenney1024: Ok,
I still dont understand your comment.
The original comment didnt state that there were any "less" rider/mechanics in other disciplines, just that enduro appeared to have "more".
Enduro prolly appears to have more, as the uptake in participants is more, and maybe its a little less funded than XC, DH and road comparatively. Bet there are plenty of rider/mechs in cyclocross and gravel as well, its not really a substantiated claim by the author

Maybe we had a different perspective of the comment, I thought it was great to see that there were people riding/meching.

Im not sure F1 drivers are any less wrench capable than previously, just that the game has changed, and more money is at stake, and things become more specialized. That doesnt make me sad, just makes me more interested in other forms of racing, so its opened up and increased the things I enjoy.
  • 16 1
 That Ancilloti is running the coil version of the Formula Selva Fork - for those interest Matt over at Alba told me they sell more of the coil and S version of the Selva than the fancy R version with the adjustable negative air chamber.
  • 4 0
 It probably goes without saying, but we're big fans of the S air spring - that's why we used it on the dual-crown Belva.
  • 10 0
 Is that a Transition Sentinel in the first few photos? If so, I love the fact the an all mountain bike released 4 years ago that is currently on blow out pricing is being used in EDR World Cup races! That say so much about that bike!
  • 7 0
 Its funny that they are running a velcro tool wrap DIRECTLY over the integrated gear accessory mount. Also that Sentinal is an older model, they haven't had the gold color in a while. Would be the perfect candidate for the gold Fox forks imho.
  • 8 0
 In all its Loam Gold beauty! I had a V1, its one of the most capable bikes. The V2 improved on the suspension progression, and is a stunner of a bike for sure. Funny how we categorize bikes sometimes
  • 2 0
 @thustlewhumber: Maybe if they used the accessory mounts then they wouldn’t be able to fit their spares on there. Looks like it would hit the shock if they did.

I have a 2024 Norco sight and it’s the same on that, you can just fit 2 tire levers and one of those super thin inner tubes on there without it hitting the shock or your water bottle.

Downtube storage is where it’s at. Also strapping to the frame is fine if you don’t care about your paint.
  • 4 0
 I've wanted to run a steering damper for a long time. Mainly cause I'm a weak POS dad that likes chunk. I'll have to check that out. Doesn't appear to be compatible with OneUp carrier though... Hopey 2.0!
  • 6 3
 Anyone want to talk about the green mineral oil for Sram brakes????
Are they finally swapping over? It would make sense after the release of the DB8s.

If that is the case, 10 to 1 says they will find a way to make sure the oil is not compatible with anyone else’s.
  • 3 1
 Green seems to go against the "red" of SRAM. Wonder if they couldn't do red because shimano's mineral oil is red ish? Or if they just wanted it to be very distinct? Or if it's just the natural color of the oil recipe?
  • 8 0
 The Maven brakes use mineral oil, just like the DB8s. And yes, SRAM says that Maxima mineral brake oil is the only approved oil.
  • 8 3
 Mavens my good man, Mavens are mineral oil.

Shimano isnt "compatible" with Magura, and vice versa, dont make it a SRAM thing.
  • 4 0
 @onawalk: Can't help but think that SRAM will be moving to one brake fluid in future development. Having disparate fluid across brakes doesn't seem sustainable; though, I have no evidence to back this, it's just speculation.
  • 1 0
 @TET1: Maybe, not sure why its anymore or less sustainable.
the different brakes use different pistons, seals, levers, etc, why would brake fluid be any different?
  • 14 0
 @onawalk: Yes... because my Shaguras are apparently completely incompatible with themselves.
  • 3 1
 @onawalk: If we take just the seals, for example, it would be more costly to produce two different kinds of seals, made out of two different kinds of materials (different rubber compatible with different fluid); on top of also having to produce different sizes. So yeah, maybe sustainable isn't the right phrase, but "less sustainable" would be better for me to have used. I don't know how their economies of scale work and what assumptions are being made in determining the exact economy of scale.

Then, having to supply-chain two different types of fluid would also be more costly. But I don't know how all that works because @mikekazimer mentioned SRAM isn't producing the fluid and are using Maxima. Still though, they have to manage the supply of the fluid to their racers and retailers, etc.
  • 3 2
 @BikesBoatsNJeeps: If you were to ask either Shimano or Magura, thats what they would say. I'm not saying they dont work together, I used those two brands as examples for a reason. Just that they are officially "compatible" as the OP was making a statement about SRAMs propensity for exclusivity of useage
  • 2 2
 @TET1: Keep in mind they already produce the seals and parts for DOT fluid in all their other brakes (DB8 and Maven not included) so the extra cost and supply burden has already been absorbed and accounted for.

Im not saying that the others wont move to mineral oil, I might prefer that they dont, I just dont think its a sustainability issue.
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: You are exactly right, they already produce the seals and parts for DOT fluid. AND, they are producing the seals and parts for mineral oil. The extra cost and supply burden is contained in producing the mavens and db8s, ON TOP OF already producing DOT fluid components. The burden will continue to be there unless they have already moved to an economy of scale.I just don't know if the economy of scale would be more advantageous if they were only producing one type of seal.

And again, there is still the burden of supply-chaining the mineral oil.

When I say sustainable, I am not referring to environmental sustainability. Merely cost-benefit sustainability. Clearly, they see some benefit in what they are doing now. How that's going to change, I don't know.
  • 1 1
 @TET1: I understand how youre using the term "sustainability"
they could change their entire lineup to mineral oil, theres no doubt of that.
Your speculation was that it would be a wholesale change from this point, and I am merely suggesting that I dont see that as an immediate necessity.
  • 2 0
 @onawalk: if pressed, Shimano and Magyar reps and technicians will admit either fluid works in either brand of brakes. And Shigura works but voids warranty.
  • 1 3
 @wyorider: Sure, but not officially, and thats kinda the point here.
  • 3 0
 @TET1: Sram is already using red mineral oil for the Reverb. Might have confused people. But i don't see why they couldn't just drop the Reverb oil and just use the green brake oil for both.

In practice, all the hydraulic oils seem to be compatible with all oil brakes. Magura oil in Formula brakes, Shimano or Magura in Shiguras, Bionol in everything, etc.
And its not just restricted to hydraulic oil. Plenty of people use Putoline HPX 2.5 suspension oil in Shimano brakes to reduce the wandering bite point defect.
  • 1 0
 Didn't someone use baby oil for a year?
  • 1 0
 @WillW123: I think Seth from Berm Park/Seth’s Bike Hacks.
  • 7 1
 Someone tell me about these mini compressors..
  • 16 1
 They work, but they’re really, really loud and it’s another battery to charge. Personally, I’d stick with a mini-pump.

m.pinkbike.com/news/check-out-a-tiny-electric-pump-chain-tools-sunglasses-and-more.html
  • 2 1
 You can find few models usually around 50 bucks, Xiaomi, HDeye air for example
  • 2 0
 I got a $50 dollar one of amazon that's not bad, but you def don't want to be riding with it but perfect for your riding bag:
www.amazon.com/dp/B0CLTTB86X?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: has the world of mini pumps gotten any better? Last time I had/used one in the before time of 2019 it was painfully slow to pump a tire to just 20psi. Like I would wear myself out using them.
  • 3 0
 @FaahkEet: the one up pump is quite fast, direct attach to the valve though, not a hose
  • 1 0
 @jj12jj: will check that one out, thanks!
  • 3 0
 @deaf-shredder: I won a Bontrager Travel Charger pump at a race years ago, Its nice, it has a tiny gauge in the inflator head, it will fit on presta and Schrader valves, and its compact enough to travel with, but large enough to work as an decent pump. It came in a nice little fabric bag that I throw a handful of stuff in, like extra sealant, some levers and a tube. For the price (free) you can't do better.
  • 4 0
 @FaahkEet: The OneUp pump is great, stores a CO cartridge as well, and the head can be used on both the pump and cartridge.
Use cartridge to fill, finish off with pump, youre off to the races!
  • 1 0
 @FaahkEet: I use the Stomp Pump and it's awesome, much better than any hand pump imo

stompump.com/products/stompump
  • 2 0
 @FaahkEet: it also really helps to have high flow valves, like 76projects valves
  • 7 0
 They work but are an ecological nightmare. Electronics and mechanics sealed/glued/poured into a metal case. No repairability. Built in cheap batteries that will force you to throw the whole thing away after a couple of years.
  • 1 0
 @Ttimer: what is worse ? One-shot CO2 cartridges or mini compressor ? Genuine question.
  • 2 0
 @vweb: CO2 cartridges are probably better. Especially if you dispose of them as scrap metal.

Depending on how often you need them through. If you need your emergency inflation kit multiple times a week, a compressor will be better but that’s not a situation you want to be in.
  • 1 0
 @Ttimer: ok I see. Thanks.
  • 5 0
 Damn! Those Kashima Foxes with the black lowers look amazing!
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer Not sure how I missed that. Thanks! I still haven't seen a set of Mavens in the wild yet.

@onawalk wasn't intending to make it a SRAM thing, but a bike industry thing.
  • 3 3
 Not many Yamaha parts work on Hondas....
  • 3 0
 After talking about how good DT SWISS rims are in an other PB article, this pile of dead rims doesn't give them a good publicity...
  • 1 0
 I'm just taking a guess but the one thing worse than a pile of dead rims in the pits would be a dead rim during the race itself.
  • 2 0
 Have you seen the track? Its absolute hell for the wheels. And insanely slippery as well so they can't run higher pressures to save the rims. I doubt it looks any different for any of the other brands.
  • 1 0
 It’s cos everyone is using them
  • 1 0
 Pretty shocked (see what I did there?) at all of the electronic rear shocks in the photos.

Clearly this tech is about to hit the All Mountain/ Enduro bike market, yet I'm not seeing much.
  • 3 0
 Unless a sponsor is paying for it, the cost/benefit ratio is really bad.
  • 4 1
 Really want that red ZEB...
  • 1 0
 Who makes that truing stand that DT Swiss is using? I am guessing Feedback, just going off the red parts. But confirmation/more info would be appreciated.
  • 3 0
 That's a DT Swiss truing stand. They've produced a couple of models over the years, and they're quite nice.
  • 1 0
 @dedrooster: the use of dial indicators to measure runout is hardcore precision
  • 2 0
 Who gets the industry mechanics? Only sponsored, anyone with that companies products?
  • 1 0
 there are now 2 manufactures who offer double crown enduro forks ( formula and intend ) why is nobody using them?
  • 6 9
 "They really are unique bikes."

Nice way to say those welds look like silver poop
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