Ohlins Announces RXF36 Evo Fork

Nov 16, 2018 at 14:05
by OhlinsMTB  
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PRESS RELEASE: Ohlins

The original RXF36 fork had great reviews about the fantastic big hit control and class-leading chassis performance, but with some inconsistent feedback about small or medium impacts, with a number of people finding the fork overdamped, we wanted a more sensitive fork.

What is the answer? Well, we could sell you a new fork with new decals and flashy new colours, talk about the all-new, best-ever modifications that take your stoke level to 10 even on your worse ride.


That is not the Ohlins way. Maybe it's the obsessive engineer in us that is constantly looking for improvements or just our commitment to our customers that we try and make every improvement retro-fitable into their current product. Having class-leading chassis performance and fantastic big hit control is a great foundation, but we felt that we needed to address some of the comments. Good is not something we strive for; our downhill mule fork was a double World Champion and we didn’t even release it, why? Because we could make it better.

When our first MTB product was the now legendary TTX22m coil shock, it’s a tough act to follow, but with an infinitely adjustable air spring and a TTX damper controlling it, why can’t you please all the people all the time? The RXF36 Evo concept was formed.

The original RXF36 goal was to create a world-class Enduro race fork. Carrying speed and having support and control in corners and steep sections were top priorities, comfort was further down the priority list.


Not every ride is an Enduro World Series race so we changed the pace a little. The Evo fork is forgiving enough to roll over that one root, that one that lies waiting patiently, ready stop all forward motion. When your arms are on the bars and you are completely cooked but are still focused on getting to the top for that one last lap. At the top, when you have sucked the last droplets out of your water bottle, hopelessly tried to eat the remains of the energy bar even though you have the worse cottonmouth in history, this is the fork, the fork that deep down, inside its TTX belly, remembers it was born a racer and helps you set that Strava segment on fire.

The R&D group split the fork down to its 3 major components addressed each down to component level separately: Chassis, Spring and Damper. Each and every change affects all components in the system so it was clear that we didn’t want to lose any of the support and control we started with.

This resulted into a harmonized, synchronized and synergized 7 stage evolution process and the brand new RXF36 Evo


The original RXF36 fork chassis was already a star performer in stiffness and tracking.

SKF seals had been proven to have better initial performance and better wet weather performance during our DH fork development process and also sealed against the superfine summer moon dust that you find in Whistler and Kamloops and all those other places we long to ride in the dead of winter.


Bushings are always a compromise, and what works for us in motorcycles, unfortunately, can’t work in mountain bikes. Motorbikes have a lot of moving parts that cause vibrations and noises meaning the play between the bushing and legs is not felt, but on a mountain bike any vibration and noise is much more apparent. Too much play and you feel a knock, too little play and friction levels build up which can lead to premature wear on stanchion tubes. 0.01mm or 1/10 the thickness of a sheet of paper makes a difference. All the Evo forks use the same freeplay as the forks our EWS and UCI WC racers used throughout 2018.



A 30% increased negative volume in the air spring gives a noticeable change in small bump sensitivity, increasing mid stroke support and pop without increasing air pressure to the point where we lose durability and performance from excessive pressure on seals. Bigger is not always better with negative air springs.

Breakaway force has been reduced by 50%, thanks to a main piston ring design and material change, which also allowed for a reduction in pressure build up at higher shaft speeds. Rebound forces were reduced by 10N and comes with the bragging rights that you went that little bit more moto.

The reservoir housing now features a purge port to maintain optimum pressure on the oil throughout its service life. The dividing piston design was changed from cup to stud design to reduce friction and twisting of both the piston and spring against the shaft and housing. Pressure spring changes in material/stroke to help eliminate any ‘banana’ effect that could lead to unwanted contact with the housing and noise to improve durability.


What this adds up to is improved feeling and sensitivity whilst retaining the big bump performance and class-leading chassis stiffness. The performance, stability and durability benefits are validated not only via the dyno rooms and laboratories but by differences the rider can feel.


Price remains the same as the original RXF36 at 1100 USD/1035 Euro plus tax. All travel and wheel configurations.

Existing riders can get all stages of the evolution, as all are retro-fittable into all our current forks. As with all our products, all riders can take advantage of our Performance set up program allowing custom damping settings right out the box.





124 Comments

  • + 146
 Hey Ohlins, don't forget the loctite
  • + 415
 Noted
  • + 3
 @OhlinsMTB: Is the above announced update the one that the voucher for the recall refers to? What about customers of the RXF36 STX and not TTX? Will the performance upgrade be the same?
Thanks for the infos in advance.
  • + 11
 @Norman22:
You can get all the performance benefits of the Evo on the STX fork too, everyone will benefit from the new parts or you could swap out to a TTX damper.
  • + 9
 I'm in..... but only because this version is "synergized".
  • + 1
 @OhlinsMTB: can you go into detail on the new “lubrication” used on the fork? Is that just referring to the SKF seals? Or is there a new oil used.
  • + 8
 @jnooth:

KY dual-purpose lube.
  • + 16
 @WasatchEnduro: It’s not KY but it is used outside the MTB industry.
  • + 32
 To be fair, If I worked for a company producing suspension for MoroGp and had just released a new fork with thousands of man hours having gone into it. I probably wouldn't even dignify a fraction of these half-wit bedroom engineers a response. My respect to the people at Ohlins for that because they got more than what they deserve. I'm fairly sure Mr Maquez and Rossi are satisfied with Ohlins products, as a side note.
  • + 0
 These are two different things. An architect might be good at building houses, doesn't make him automatically as good at building bridges...
  • + 32
 @zede: architects don’t build/construct anything - they design
  • - 1
 @zede: A structural engineer designs houses, and also designs bridges*

Ohlins design motoGp stuff, they are also (in my mind as someone who owns one of their products) qualified to design push bike suspension

*I work in a consulting engineering practice, not a bedroom
  • - 6
flag zede (Nov 19, 2018 at 5:30) (Below Threshold)
 @meathooker: you're missing the point
  • + 7
 @usmbc-co-uk: thank you for reminding everyone you're an engineer
  • + 0
 Whoops. U ok?
  • + 1
 Unrelared comment, typed by mistake, yelling to pinkbike to allow us to delete messages we accidently submitted by just liking (in my case, because I'm a very positive person), or unliking someones thoughts.
  • + 15
 How many shit forks have Fox or RS built in the past?

My old RFX 36 was easily as good as my Fox 36. I bet this new fork is better than anything else on the market. How long did it take them? 2-3 years?
  • + 13
 You are absolute right, but as long as Öhlins keeps its service concept and no spare parts are available for the customer (here in Germany), Fox and RS are first choice!
  • - 8
flag zyoungson (Nov 19, 2018 at 7:58) (Below Threshold)
 Rockshox are great if you want a fork that dives and operates in the last 1/3 of its travel.
  • + 0
 Just read the Vital review. "Outstanding" apparently.
  • + 3
 Yep, my 2019 Fox 36 on my Sentinel had a new CSU (creaking of course) within 10 months, and I'm fully expecting to do it again by May when the warranty expires. It really is, just a matter of course out here with these forks...and we all seem OK with it???
  • + 2
 @zyoungson: If everybody keeps thinking they are an EWS Pro and need 6 tokens in the air spring, that's what's bound to happen Wink
  • + 1
 MRP, Cane Creek, DT Swiss and Ohlins are making better products every year. All Rockshox and Fox do these days is copy aftermarket products that make their forks a little better and incorporate them into their design. They're falling behind, but they continue to focus on marketing, spend the big dollars there and reap the rewards.
  • + 3
 @sluette73: I've used Fox, RS, and DVO. Don't have a strong preference between them, but I demand access to spare parts. No Cane Creek and no Ohlins for me, and that's the whole reason.
  • + 1
 @WaterBear: You should check out MRP... that Ribbon air with the separate chambers is awesome. Plus they have an online store full of spare parts. All made in the USA so readily available quickly.
  • + 14
 Probably going to be a great fork, but I'm more interested in the paper that is 0.01 of a millimetre thick!? Paper is 0.1mm thick, thats 10 times thicker, you would think you would want to get it right in your press release if you were talking about how precise your toleranceses are.
  • + 19
 Lol, you must be an engineer or machinist, made me cringe too, imagine having 0.1mm clearance , would feel like my c**k in a sock ????
  • + 6
 Perhaps they were talking about paper that IS 0.01mm thickness? Paper comes in different thicknesses (weights) for different applications... A standard sheet of printing paper is typically 80gsm and 0.1mm thickness. But fine papers for art and other precision applications get down to around 4 or 5gsm which is approximately 0.01mm thickness. But I guess it could equally just have been a typo Wink
  • + 21
 Even silver rizzla is about 0.025” and its pretty much see through....
  • + 2
 sorry 0.025mm, 0.001”
  • + 2
 .01mm = .0004in. Ridiculously tight. Almost unbelievably.
  • + 8
 “0.01mm or 1/10 the thickness of a sheet of paper”
  • + 2
 @Seabassfourfinger: ohlins ninja edit
  • + 1
 The post refers to the play being either 0.01mm or 1/10 a piece of paper. That would indicate that they believe paper is 0.1mm. This is 0.01mm thicker than you.
  • + 1
 @JohanG: that's what he said
  • + 1
 @ drfunsocks .When I smoke weed alone, just the Natura (Hemp paper) , Should You try the Rizla+ natura ? This is the best, and this paper saves Trees.
  • - 1
 it literally says 1/10th the thickness of a piece of paper.

You would think you'd want to read and comprehend what you were commenting on before you wrote.
  • + 3
 @conoat: it was literally edited after most of the initial comments were made. But thanks for the advice.
  • + 12
 I really like that you guys want to give some more insight on the behaviour of your forks with different rebound and compression settings etc. But also i would like to see the diagrams with all axis named and the units added. A diagram with velocity on one axis and something unknown on the other axis says as much about this fork as a picture of a pinguin.
  • + 12
 for about 3 seconds there i had to refocus on the headline and thought it was another recall....
  • + 37
 At least they order a recall when their products are faulty. SRAM just lets you ride down a mountain with your pistons stuck in the lever.
  • + 25
 @cvoc: C'mon. Let's be honest. If you ride with Sram brakes you don't really expect to stop or slow down every time you hit the brakes, do you?
You ride them so that everyone can hear you coming.
  • + 3
 @cvoc: this can’t be upvoted enough. I was just with a friend in Moab who’d been off the bike for a while. Her Guides siezed while out on a ride. 2 thumbs down to Sram for the lack of proactive recall on those things.
  • + 1
 @ryan83: I had to sand my piston down erc!
  • + 3
 Fox has yet to offer a suitable solution for the extra clicks on the new Grip 2. The advice they give is to ignore those extra clicks. So at least they are doing something with a recall vs ignoring the issue like Fox.
  • + 1
 @digitalsoul: A recall is only done when there is a safety issue. Ohlins recall was definitely safety related. Having some phantom clicks in your 36 isn't even remotely safety related

Fox should have done a technical bulletin but providing replacement parts for such a minor issue is really pushing it IMO. I had one of the forks and could easily figure out how many clicks from closed my damper was at.
  • + 1
 @cvoc: I was pretty pissed when SRAM told me 'too bad' about the brakes. Seems like most bike companies bend over backwards to help their customers.
  • + 1
 @pakleni: ARRRROOOARRROOOOWHOOOOOOWAWAWAWAWAWAWAHOOOOOOONKKKK
  • + 9
 ‘... sealed against the superfine moon dust that you find in Whistler and Kamloops and all those other places we long to ride in the dead of winter.’

I’ve got to be honest with you, I don’t dream about riding either of those places in winter.
  • + 9
 *whoosh*
  • + 9
 @thesharkman: whoosh for me?

Or whoosh for you?
  • + 2
 You have to bear in mind, they are from Sweden! Big Grin
  • + 15
 @Quebracho: It was the semantics I was playing on. Wish I hadn’t bothered. I come out looking like a twat and the other commenter comes out looking like some witty genius. C'est la vie.
  • + 6
 @dubod22: don't worry, 'witty genius' isn't the first thing that comes to mind when some guy is over eager to use the tired *woosh* joke again
  • + 8
 The original RXF 36 fork had great reviews about the fantastic big hit control and class-leading chassis performance, but with some inconsistent about permanent air cartridge placement we give you all new Ohlins-Red-Loctite Edtion.
  • + 9
 It's harmonized. It's synchronized .It's synergized.
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But is it greased lightning?
  • + 10
 Nevertheless, props to OHLINS for showing at least some data.
  • + 5
 I know, I'm the one that always has something negative to say about Öhlins, and that's certainly not going to stop with this little gem:

"This resulted into a harmonized, synchronized and synergized 7 stage evolution process and the brand new RXF36 Evo"

Pardon my language, but what the actual f*ck? I'd say fork, but I'm not one of those posters. This is the winner of the most useless press release of the year award in the category of; our last product was not only shit, but potentially dangerous, and we promise this one is better.

You want new customers? KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. Hopefully you fire the kid that write this drivel, or at least send him back to your new corporate overlords.
  • + 1
 I was one of those posters and somebody deleted my post???

Said ... “They need to stop forking around” ...

There weren’t but about ten replies then and I saw it post, the next morning; poof ... gone
  • + 2
 I sent my RXF36 air fork to Ohlins to get a complete service because it was long overdue. As luck would have it, the fork arrived at Ohlins just before the recall was announced so no service could be done to it nor could it be returned to me until the recall situation could be approved by the cpsc. My bike just hung in my basement for about 1.5 months without a fork. I wasn't upset because I realized that sometimes things just don't go like we want them to and that no one (or company) is perfect. Once the recall solution was approved, they began to service my fork but they found some issues inside the damper . There solution to the problem was to replace my beat up, scraped up, almost 2 year old fork with a brand new one at no cost to me. No complaints about Ohlin's customer service from me. I certainly appreciate them standing behind my fork. OhlinsMTB - since my fork is brand new, is there any chance the upgrade is already installed? I did notice that it does have the blue SKF seals. Thanks again!
  • + 1
 Your lucky, it’s going on 5 months for a 2018 fork that failed and nothing. . . . . . . Keep buying their stuff but I am done!
  • + 2
 I hope Ohlins RXF ttx can be as sensitive as open damping(for example bos deville ).And DH fork can be listed soon.
I hope they will have the iconic characteristics of Ohlins(for example forging、CNC,Titanium nitride layer.....)
At last, I hope Ohlins fork can be as beautiful as the fork of MOTOGP racing bike.
  • + 2
 So will they swap all the internals/seals etc for the older generation of forks? Not heard a single good thing about Öhlins customer service. Although FOX/RS have their issues, you can a) find the parts b) talk to them and not have to read such terrible marketing drivel.
  • + 3
 Yes, that it exactly what will happen for our existing customers.
We are working hard to expand and improve our global service network.
This is right out of Transition how to video, just for Pinkbike. If we had some power acronyms we right up there ????

"This resulted into a harmonized, synchronized and synergized 7 stage evolution process and the brand new RXF36 Evo"
  • + 0
 @OhlinsMTB: you guys need to work on your customer service! I am done with you because of it!
  • + 1
 @OhlinsMTB: Well that's good to hear about your customers getting the upgrades fitted for free! Well done, but on the marketing side of things - the irony is totally lost in your press-release, transition manages to make it clear they are being sarcastic and self-detrimental, it makes it fun.
  • + 4
 For me, the best fork promo vids show the goods in action up close going through rock gardens and root sections demonstrating how glued it keeps the rider..
  • + 6
 you'll shoot your eye out kid
  • + 5
 After Evo series. They will come out EVO Ti. One of the component will be made of Ti. No you didnt see this coming.
  • + 3
 And since they have been bought by tenecco next step would be renaming to marzocchi?
  • + 6
 @winko: marzohlins
  • + 4
 I bet the first question asked by Tenneco when the talks started... "How do you feel about dropping the mountain bike stuff? That didn't go so well for us last time.."
  • + 1
 Still running my fox 36 van rc2 after 12 years,still running smooth and yes did change the “legs “2 times ,worn out ,that’s normal ,it might no be and it isn’t the most performant one even with the hi and low speeds settings it lacks that small better “reading” the terrain that the new air ones have ,like they are more intelligent in impacts but still nothing beats a coil in terms of reliability,yes air forks are getting bether but after a phew rides they just become more sticky and like have days ,but nothing compared to 4 or more years ago when they just whore just a piece of crap in my opinion,good luck and build an coil but not so fancy and cheaper
  • + 2
 Missing a period or two eh
  • + 2
 Curious about the recall/upgrade in Canada. My Specialized dealer has no idea about the process and has been unable to get any answers from Specialized Canada. OhlinsMTB please advise!!
  • + 1
 @keewi :

from the Ohlins world website:

"Process for the customer

Customers gets their fork tightened to 32 Nm + Loctite 243 at bike shop or service center.

Customer gets a voucher for free service parts (not including labour) and the soon to be released performance upgrade kit by entering fork serial no and email address at www.ohlins.com/mtb-voucher-registration "
  • + 3
 When is ohlins going to be releasing info about the free ‘upgrade’ and seal kit for existing owners
  • + 8
 The performance upgrade will change any current RXF36 to an Evo version whether it is TTX or STX.
  • + 3
 I've always been more of an STi fan myself, but if they are going to give me an EVO then I guess I'll try it!
  • + 4
 Ya had me until the over use of buzz words... Yikes
  • + 3
 Yeah buzz words really get me triggered nowdays, dam these press releases..
  • + 2
 Would love to manufacture/design bicycle suspension, there's so much to ask from it. It's pretty much a unconquerable well of interesting issues.
  • + 4
 Good changes for sure. Curious to see what the price is to update my fork.
  • + 3
 I suspect this is the free upgrade that you can get from ohlins in return for the decal issues - if you didn't know about it, head over to the ohlins website and look at the decal page, there is a link where you can enter your serial number and get a voucher to cover the parts, then you just have to get the fork serviced (Should also be free in my opinion) for the parts to be fitted. I've got the negative air mod and the bushing resize and it does make a difference. Looking forward to the other bits - let the haters hate, I still like this fork!
  • - 2
 @rjwspeedjunkie: returned a fork 5 months ago after it failed and still nothing! I don’t care how good their crap is I am done with them. Good luck. . . . .
  • + 0
 The problem with building mtb suspension like moto suspension is that we have no throttle and have to use body English and force to make the bike accelerate. This creates a much different need. Where on a moto your body has much less influence over the bike. This is why the 2 building theories dont overlap and trying. Dont do like PUSH and make highly dampened undersprung suspension that sticks to ground and that's it. I do love the 4 way poppet valve ttx engineering tho. That's one thing that crossed over lovely and we owe ohlins for that.
  • + 2
 Crossed over from what? Their MX stuff ain’t that great!
  • - 1
 Ohlins has become a total joke in my book.
Took them like 6 weeks to tell us to clean an loctite the threads on the cap, while Fox and everyone else had their 'fix' ready to go the SAME friggen day the recall was announced.
Then they tell us we'll get some free performance upgrade, yet the multiple times I went to their website to find out how I'm supposed to get it, every time I hit the link it just refreshed the page.
Add that to Specialized (dealers at least) not wanting anything to do with this, so at least in my experience, I was on my own fixing it, and there is NO 'free' anything.
f*ck you very much for allowing me to pay $1200 to enter the twilight zone with you Ohlins, but I've gotten off your crazy train. I swapped out your POS fork for a Fox 36, and am never looking back
  • + 0
 Specialized is done with them too. . . . . And so am I!
  • + 1
 Stay off my lawn!
  • + 2
 Fortunately for them Tenneco is going to look at that bushing tolerance and shrug
  • - 1
 So. Not only did they eased the damping by half. They even made compression damping less velocity-sensitive.
And the Force/Travel graph clearly shows that and we're supposed to think that the new settings will better the damper performance. I'd say, the new settings make it perform even worse.
.
Only if they'd be aiming to introduce coil spring version, as @chyu already said.
  • + 16
 Those comparison graphs only show the piston with piston ring, they do not show the damping. The damping levels are showed at the bottom of the article.
  • + 3
 "helps you set that Strava segment on fire." um okay...
  • + 1
 hot announcment today....released for sale December 2019....

PS. New Coil 36 fork....will it ever appear for sale? 0_o
  • + 2
 Released now, in stock at the main hubs now. 27.5 Coil Fork shipped from the factory in the last two weeks, albeit later than we had promised our dealers, the 29er has been around for a while.
  • + 1
 good luck. If I’d choose a aftermarket suspension it would be formula cause they are purple and holy!
  • + 2
 core af
  • + 1
 So will this fork be stiffer with the one piece CSU over the newer model fork coming out. Or am I missing something?
  • + 1
 Is a bicycle part! Is more expensive than their Motorcycle or car suspension!
  • + 2
 Yo! I need a 1 1/8” straight steer hook it up
  • + 1
 The tapered steer tube was a great advancement. So happy, I bent forks at the steer tube in the past.
  • + 2
 @Kramz: yah, same here. What a great advancement.
Drivetrain? Nah, don’t worry about it. All is well. That expensive derailleur hanging down low between rocks and your wheel? Nah. Good. Don’t worry about. Really happy you addressed that steer tube issue though....

Eat a d$ck bike industry.
  • + 2
 @Kramz: tapered absolutely makes sense, 1 and 1/8” on top and 1.5” for the bottom perfect! Its harsh tho 1 1/8” head tubes still exist and is left in the dark letting us hang dry. It’s ok I’m saving money
  • + 1
 @nfa2005: Yeah, I've been piecing a bike together, and basically what I learned is, "let the professionals do it". Definitely didn't end up with anything beyond what I could have just purchased from Norco.
  • + 1
 Sent my voucher to LBS last week. How soon are the upgrade packages shipping out?
  • + 1
 I wish it was as rewarding to have Ohlins on the front of my mountain bike as it is on a sportsbike...
  • + 5
 Did you synergize your evolution process?
  • + 2
 Nah. I’m holding out for the model that will take my stoke level to 11.
  • + 1
 so its pretty much new seals and colored pictures no one understands is the difference
  • + 2
 Set that Strava segment on fire..????
  • + 2
 Pronounced "uh-lins". I did some research so you can be educated.
  • + 0
 Wow, after a few years they finally realized that they don't make profit on racers, but rather on dentists. Bravo.
  • - 1
 Wouldn’t it be easier if Tennecö were selling TTX damper and spring units for Suntour forks?

BTW “Existing riders”? Smile
  • + 0
 I've often wondered why we don't see more aftermarket/custom forks designed around dampers from the major players. Imagine a sweetly anodized and cnc'd upside down fork using a well proven RS/Fox/Ohlins damper cartridge and other standard internals like skf seals etc.

I suppose the aftermarket performance upgrades are more about internal tuning and not really issues with the current external parts...
  • - 1
 Is Oehlins doing what Bos did a few years ago? Technically advanced. Too much manufacturing "in" tolerances, too much marketing, not enough service.
  • + 0
 " the now legendary TTX22m coil shock"

really?
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