Video by Drew Bennett. Photos by Emily Sierra and Matt Jones.Brooke Goudy is on a mission to not have to talk about how representation matters. Getting all people to “acknowledge and understand barriers, and that we, all folks, white folks, black folks, brown folks, are out there working our hardest to remove those barriers.”
|Resilience: It is the key to success on and off the trail. It’s the ability to fall and get up again, to recover from your worst day and hold excitement for tomorrow. Off the bike, we engage in conflict and struggle with those around us, most often with ourselves. We build resilience on the trail and carry it into our daily lives. It is what gives us strength. |
Strength: Right foot, left foot – the biking rhythm keeps us upright during the hardest part of the ride. A mantra that carries us through to the end. We grow strong, learn to lean into the discomfort, and stand up to the challenge. It is not easy to be the “only one,” to challenge the status quo, to make room for others, but we do it. We persevere and tap into our grit.
Grit: We set goals and follow through with early morning rides and late-night meetings. We advocate for access to trail systems and volunteer to keep them in good repair. Our passion drives our obsession. We are not afraid to speak our truth and reckon with the impact of our choices. Resilience, Strength, and Grit: this is MTB. These trails belong to everyone. We must work to make a space for all.—Brooke Goudy
Are those racial/gender barriers or economic barriers?
You're a red nose away from having the full clown outfit on at this point.
Come down to the NY/NJ/Philly area and there are plenty of places that have public transportation to trailheads/riding areas. Look up Mullaly BMX park and the positive stuff they are doing. Also spots like Cunningham, Highbridge and Philly Pump track. Our local stuff in NJ can be accessed by boat or train (and a few mile pedal) from NYC/North Jersey. And there is a great shop not far from us called Second Life Bikes that has helped many get a decent bike for little cost.
But if you come down make sure not to Vermont Jersey.
At the same time, any activity that invariably involves people grouping together can tap into human dynamics of inclusion and exclusion, even if passively or unconsciously expressed. For example, I am fortunate to have a pedal pass for Bikepark Wales, and so regularly pass new riders, frequently family groups, heading up the climb. It is clearly a daunting experience for some as on arrival, you are confronted by a world of specialist knowledge and complex kit. When you get to the top, the experience can be quite jolting for these groups: large groups of guys dripping with bravado, boasting about kit, loudly using language that isn't really suitable for a family environment, and due to the lack of toilets at the top, sometimes literally with their d*cks in their hands.
I am absolutely certain none of those guys have any desire to exclude family groups, women or POC from the sport, but you can see parents and kids looking visibly uncomfortable or intimidated by it. I really try to make a point of going over and chatting with families to try to balance out this impression; I really hope this won't be their first and last visit.
I guess what I am trying to say in a really unclear, unconcise way is that although I am sure no one actively discriminates in the sport, we do need to be mindful of how those of us already in the sport might make it seem unwelcoming to new comers, making them feel like outsiders.
19.5% of black Americans live in poverty, only 8.2% of white Americans live in poverty.
I don't mind the Dead and the Steal your Face is an iconic logo (and this will sound shitty) but I just thought it was funny that you use it after reading your post. And it might just be me that thinks that.
I'm certainly not suggesting moving as Stowe is a beautiful place but maybe check out some other facets of bike riding in non-epic mountain bike areas. Make a trip to the NYC and explore. Or Miami, FL. I find the harder it is to have great riding terrain the more interesting the local riders are. At the very least check out pictures of Mullaly (I think there is a great podcast of the guy that runs it) and the work Dirty Meastro has done at Cunnigham in LI
So what can be done?
I grew up racing BMX and in the 80's there were a good amount of really good BMX riders that were black. Not sure if you know of Anthony Sewell or Darrel Young but they invented/perfected 2 of the most stylish moves on a bike - the tuck no hander and seat grab. I think any bike shop with pictures of those 2 icons would be a nice addition. Bike riding for me wouldn't be the same for me without their influences even though it was just a picture in a magazine. And add some super rad females to that list - Cherri Elliot oozed style and speed on her Skyway (her table x ups on white TA frame with black Graphites - OMG!). So many riders have gone from bmx to mtb so many looking at the BMX past might be a good thing? BMX wouldn't be were it is without the shear power and force racing style of Shawn Texas, the style of Shaun Butler, the entertainment and entrepreneurship of Craig Reynolds.
I feel BMX is a great entry point for bike riding in general for so many types of people. The bikes are cheap and simple, you can ride whatever clothes (just have a good helmet and no need for designer jorts) and a really fun pump/jump track can be made in any 1 acre space. It teaches kids the right skills and a layout of a spot promotes working together and communicating not just riding. I actually helped build a small setup during 2019/2020 and made a pump track for the local kids some of them POC (which I f*cking hate that I feel I need to add that - a rider should just be a rider). The damn pump line was way more work than our 2 bigger jump lines but the kids loved it. During Covid it blew up as everything closed and bicycles were the only outlet for the local kids. It got plowed by the town in June 2020 (I actually found out about it driving back from Stowe).
I'm now volunteering for the local parks system working on erosion issues on local trails and hopefully showcasing our skills to the right person and getting their ear as why there should be a pump/jump track in the park system. I actually think there should be a pump/jump track where ever there is a basketball court or baseball diamond but maybe we can build up to that.
I'd love to stop in next time I'm in Stowe. You look like you have some great products (love Chromag) and would be cool to talk about bikes and how fun they are. Likewise if you find yourself in Jersey LMK
Actively listening to what folks of color might be asking for, trying it on, and seeing if it impacts those folk's enjoyment of the outdoors will be a hugely constructive learning experience for so many of us. Biking is so friggin rad, it's really exciting to be seeing more of these stories and learning what we need to do to make that radness available for every person who wants to access & experience it.
However I agree that the primary barrier is economic.
The individual problems of cost and oppression are indeed real problems, but don't apply to black people being in the sport directly. The biggest reason that blacks aren't in the sport is because blacks aren't interested. Period! There are plenty of black people with enough money to be in the sport so that's not it. And there are no Democrats in their "real form" wearing white robes and stopping black people before they even get near the mountain.
Just so we are clear, you're not speaking for me. And as a person that admits to never having "felt any sort of oppression" you should stop simping for others. You can't begin to understand the things I've not said in regards to being black amongst black people so you'll never understand how that has a far greater affect in regards to the numbers that are mountain biking.
As for the social part, if people are unfriendly for whatever reason then they aren't the people you don't want to be with anyway. Whether their reason is racist or not, if they're unfriendly you just move on. But honestly I don't recall having such an encounter with a mountainbiker. Some people are in a hurry, some people are just plain boring, but I've don't recall having met a mountainbiker who was unfriendly for no apparent reason.
In a broader context, my oldest daughter (11yo) is into gymnastics. She tried soccer for a year but quit. Not because she's a girl and would have felt uncomfortable. It's just that because of the covid regulations the whole team-feel went out of the window and she felt a bit lost. She's happy with gymnastics now and is now training in the "selection group" which is preparing her for contests. There are also two entry level groups on a different day which are explicitly described as for girls. There is no boys alternative. This struck me as odd. What if you're a boy and are interested in the sport? The description for the entry level group clearly states you're unwelcome and obviously you can't start in the selection group if you're new to the sport. I understand that there are different exercises in competition but you'd say the entry to the sport could be more inclusive.
So yeah, if a trailhead sign would say "for white male only" or something similar to the approach in that gymnastics club then it may be reason to scratch our heads a little. But how you limit yourself in who can be your role model is a limit you impose upon yourself. Ever since Anneke Beerten left the successful B1 team and worked so hard and clever to make a living in the sport, she's been a role model for me. She's white, she's a woman, I'm neither. So what?
On point [a], it's just a general trend, not rule, so it's reasonable to expect some people to experience no barriers to entry (sounds like that's your experience). And perhaps now that you're in the sport, POC might see you on your bike and maybe they'll be curious about trying it out, in way they might not if they only saw white people on mountain bikes.
If I flip this the other way round: As a white guy, if I lived in a city with a bunch of public volleyball courts, and I only ever saw 2 white people playing volleyball, then volleyball likely wouldn't be the first activity I think about if I wanted to take up a new active hobby. Doesn't mean I couldn't, doesn't mean I think those volleyball players are racist, wouldn't ruin my life, and hopefully it doesn't make it seem like I'm a racist myself. It's not like I'd be 'actively rejecting' volleyball, it's just a thing that would be less likely to come to mind.
To be clear: I'm not disagreeing with anything you said. Just joining the conversation you started!
I'm a white guy in a majority-white region of a majority-white country, so I can't speak from personal experience here. I'm just doing my best to understand what people like Brooke Goudy mean when they say something like 'as a little girl, I didn't see myself being one of those riders'. And I'm happy to be proved wrong and make some mistakes as I try to learn to more empathetic about race issues.
My takeaway from Brook is that she would like to have seen someone like her on the trail when she was younger. Totally fine, I get it. That's more about building awareness, right? When you start saying things like representation, you start making it a racial issue.
This story alone should tell you all you need to know about the validity of the majority of gender/racial/social science studies:
Imagine going out of your way to help an older person cross the street. Would you have helped them cross if they were 20 and walking just fine? No. Does that make you an ageist by identifying a place where you can help based on someone's identity? I don't think so. Are we hurting 20 year olds by not offering to help them cross the street? Let me know if this example makes sense or if you think it is a false equivalence.
It's 2021 dude. How patronizing do you have to be to be like 'Dear black american, did you know it is ok for you to ride a bike in the woods? Please do this thing so that I can check 'representation' box on the trailhead survey. Thx'. Based on your previous example, it's not a stretch to believe you think this way, and says a lot more about your ego and the issues you have with POC than anything else.
When a rider shows up to the trail head, is there a giant gate there that reads 'If a white person did not lead you here by the hand, you may not enter'? Of course not. Black people have the internet. Latino people know how to read a map. All my black and brown friends can get to the trail without me if they really want to go, they are intelligent, capable people, I promise you. All my friends know that I mountain bike and at even the faintest mention of it do you think I don't immediately ask them if they want to go? Of course I do! But, spoiler alert, how many do you think I've been able to get to the trails with me? Zero. It's not out of flat-out disinterest, but rather jaws that drop at bike costs and the fact that when you figure in travel time, a good ride can easily take up half your Saturday.. time that is increasingly scarce when you have a partner and kids. This is a resource issue, not a skin pigment issue, and always will be. There's been a big WELCOME sign hanging on the door to mountain biking for as long as I have been involved (15+ years).. but brands pull stunts like this because they want to leverage your white guilt into a few more bikes being sold. After all, it is *my* fault more black and brown people aren't dropping $2,3,4K on a mountain bike, right? Now get out there like good little diversity soldiers and get those brown people to the trails so help me god...
I'm of the opinion that actions like the ones you propose are condescending and remove personal agency. They "feel" right though, and that speaks right to the moral superiority of the argument. It's white ego, sorry.
I get it. It is uncomfortable to accept the fact that you have privledge and you may be responsible for reparations (on a microscopic scale relative to past oppression). You can't fix inequality by just saying "ok well starting from now on we're all equal!" This is to completely ignore that we are all starting from different positions that are generally (yes this is a generalization) based on certain identities, often race.
Having grown up around a lot of ordinary black folks, I can say that the modern "white liberal" take on black people is catastrophically wrong and patronizing.
To the larger audience engaged here--don't do this. It's a tactic that is far to common these days in online discourse. Just because someone doesn't agree with you does not make them 'the other side'. Comedian Mark Normand had a bit that the new N-word is "Nuance", which definitely applies on topics like this. The number of weirdos that immediately paint others as racists, etc just for disagreeing with them is nothing other than religious zealotry. It's demonizing those who dare to question 'the church', which is this case is the racial dogma from which the moral superiority is drawn. Taking such a position allows the individual to promulgate any number of untrue assertions (racist, sexist, phobe, etc) in an attempt to delegitimize dissenting opinions. In practice this plays out like, 'Well, I have the moral position here, so if you question me then you're a racist'. It's not only transparent, but tiresome and unproductive.
But the correlation with religion and the overzealousness of these woke people is very real. The rituals are the same (kneeling, worship, martyrs, faith over logic and reason, etc) but I think it's far more dangerous than religion as they have absolutely no one to keep them in check and they are totally oblivious to the ways in which they act. At least a born again Christian is aware that he is a born again Christian and has a set of beliefs limited by a book. Woke/social justice type people do not acknowledge this at all and they have no figurehead or guiding principle to tell them what is right or wrong like a pope, quoran or a head of a church. If one of their woke leaders suddenly goes against them they will just turn on him and take it even further as there will always be someone willing to condemn that person. It's such a dangerous mode of thought and puts the self at the centre of everything.
I reckon the two groups of people who hate each other the most in America right now are all white and would quite readily genocide the "bad guys" with a little coercing. You see some truly loopy shit written by blue check people on twitter. Genuine hatred in America is very real right now but it's mainly due to politics and not race/religion anymore.
Our current culture is an obvious regression, and one which is dangerous. They say that the death of humor is a foreboding sign for a culture. We are becoming increasingly humorless and overtly serious - to the point of paranoia. I was thinking about this comment thread and what struck me about it is that in 2005, we'd all just be talking about bikes, components, riders, and cracking jokes. In 2021, the PB comment section is now just as often filled with accusations/defenses for/against racism/sexism, etc. as it is bike banter. That's utterly depressing.
What does this mean in unambiguous terms?
What is stopping the diverse population from getting a bike, and go ride?
Do people nowadays really need other popular people to look up to or what?
Why can people not do their thing if they wanted to? Do they need someone to push them or why can't they do it alone?
One would experience very open racism and the other would have to look for some sort of discrimination/oppression. I don't think it's too hard to guess which scenario is which.
All of this stuff is so divisive. The only people who think this stuff is even remotely relevant to increasing participation amongst minorities are the type of people who will never ever do anything more hands-on to get minorities involved. If you want more black kids to try mountain biking how about you organise a mountain biking trip for a predominantly black school.
This horseshit about seeing other people who look like you doing it is totally unproven woke, social studies bullshit. But for some reason these nonsensical courses, which shit out phds for fun, are taken seriously by upper middle class white Knights who like to pretend they care about social issues.
Other then again , money, how do you stop someone from riding?
Americans are so painful to listen to and obsessed with racism. I love when people start telling others how they should be "part of the solution". All the while totally ignorant to the fact that America is now more divided than it has ever been on race issues since the proliferation of these ideas.
America has never been so divided and it has never had more people lecturing others about how racist and problematic they all are. What exactly is this solution you people are offering and are the positives of utopian society you envision going to outweigh the ever growing division?
I don't know how people can look at the way people are communicating today and the obvious polarisation and think that they are somehow helping by telling other people "you don't understand like I do. I'm ver smart on this topic, listen to me".
A city which has completely lost the run of itself.
Also, you've outed yourself as a racist at this point. I'd say "do better", but you don't have any context for that.
All that's left is to feel sorry for you.
What exactly is the thinking here? Why should every single thing be diverse? The diversity movement appears to be driven entirely by university educated white people (always in some bullshit social science) and corporations who literally do not care unless there is some end game about money. When the biggest drivers of these campaigns are all corporatations do you never stop and wonder what their real aim is?
Why exactly would any of these companies care about diversity?
Although, it appears there is an entire group of people that no longer have any idea of how serious the word racist should be. People like you have devalued the word to such a degree that it is now totally meaningless.
Yet all we hear is people like you and the other guy telling everyone that they are racist, institutions are racist and that the root of all problems in America are racist. Are you going to deny that this type of talk has accelerated massively in the last 8 years? People are being "educated" on all these woke talking points like never before....which must be a good thing to you? Yet the country is supposedly becoming more racist and more divided.....
So if this is the solution.....please explain how its working?
Again perception , why do people look at this angle to it? Why is it possible to say it's a white middle aged male sport? Why does it even matter, this should be the question and why is important how something looks. Why does it need others like you to drag you in?
I mean everyone I know started and riding bikes cause the parents did it. Just regular bikes, that didn't stop them from going into the forest with it. Riding the first hiking trails and later trying trails ALONE.
From my point of view and country, I can't see this. Its more the other way around. More expensive means mostly , you can't ride. Probably people will make fun of you if you turn up with that.
There's a famous American saying that you almost never hear anymore as it's like they've all forgotten it.
"It's a free country"
All these artificial "barriers" will melt away pretty quick if you just go buy a bike and ride it.
What we're seeing now is a backlash to what Trump spearheaded as well as pent up anger over decades of racism, sexism, all the isms that disenfranchise anyone who is not of the predominant "people".
Why people fear difference is biological and well as socioeconmic.
Defeating perceptions of difference is not gonna happen overnight, but it will move forward in spurts, two steps forward, one step back BECAUSE the majority of the world's population is not white nor male.
Take the long view, time changes all things.
Us vs them seems to be wired into most peoples brains and it is fairly obvious to anyone whose learned anything about European history that there's a good 200 years of recent history where white people viewed other races as sub human. It's probably only been since about the 1970's that other races being "sub human" has stopped being a central theme in white politics.
So yeah there sure as hell is a divide. There is quite literally multiple generations of people still alive who have been persecuted by white law enforcement based on their ethnicity. And it's only been about 50 years since white society has started on the path to treating people of colour like they're human beings.
The real question is why not have these conversations? Why not give people of different ethnicities the opportunity to be a role model for people who look like them? How does that negatively affect you?
Give it time, that’s all we got.
To be fair it is easy for me to have empathy for others because of the immense privilege I have. While I've worked for everything I have in life there have been literally no roadblocks in my way, except for occasionally myself. Growing up middle class in Canada means that I had access to any opportunity I was willing to work for. Access to student loans when I wanted to go back to school. Access to free health care when I hurt myself. And just generally growing up in a society where cultural norms are based on tolerance makes it easy to have empathy for others.
Lots of people have grown up under very different circumstances. So I think there's room to understand why it's hard for some people to be generous with others.
When you see people saying “it’s too white” in a majority white country, it’s like saying something is too Chinese in China. Virtually everything is going to be a majority of the thing which is the majority.
White people, like any group, do things like ride bikes and sometimes - more often than not in a majority white country - they end up being the majority. There’s a weird fetish in pathologizing anything associated with “white”, in way that we wouldn’t do to any other majority group.
Even if we entertain your “per capita”… “disproportionate” argument (which is also getting very old), 50% poor representation is not too far off from the 60% overall White population number. Throw some standard deviation and errors in sampling and “biases” in reporting and it’s pretty darn close to what you would expect.
Whether it’s 50% of 60%… the point was not to say that racism doesn’t exist (that’s pretty evident from all races), but rather to say that a very large portion of our population faces their own economic and social impediments without any support and without people feeling guilty for the disparities. Take a stroll through middle America or Appalachia if you really want to see people who need help…
Nobody in this comment section objects to the idea of anyone riding mtb's. It's the veiled or implied accusations of racism as to why there are disparities in mountain biking that get people upset. Also, at the end of the day, we're not talking about say health care or education, etc. It's a hobby. The over-politicization of literally every aspect of life is not only unrealistic in its goals, but it sucks the joy out of everything. MTB is, frankly, an escape for most people. That there's so many online political fundamentalists dragging everyone into their misery is just obnoxious.
Another factor is that we're running an experiment in the US, which is a truly (at least conceptually) multi-ethnic/religious/racial, etc. country with no central identity other than, perhaps, citizenship. But, as it turns out, many people are uncomfortable with that - and not in ways you might think. In environments which attempt to downplay a universal identity, for many, this merely intensifies the search for identity. I think this is a factor in explaining the explosion and ever finer gradation of identities we're seeing currently in the US. There was a time - roughly late 90's through early aughts (Gen X) - when I thought we might be on the path to overcoming this tribal urge and getting to a point of fully realizing the dream. I may be biased, b/c I'm Gen X, but I think Gen X had it right on matters of identity. It was Gen X who elected Obama. But, alas, this appears to have been temporary.
How far does it go down the rabbit hole? Will Red heads want special consideration, will bald people? I think we are already hearing noise from over weight people. How about short people… low IQ people? The list of potential “identities” that could need recognition and special consideration is really long!
Some South Americans literally rounded up anyone not them and sacrificed them by ripping out their hearts.
Chinese history documents a great deal of ethnosuperiority. The slave trade un North Africa and the Arabian coast saw more slaves traded (then subsequently worked or raped to death). Japanese atrocities in ww2, fueled by racial superiority.
Archaeological evidence of inter-First Nations' genocide prior to European contact, etc, etc, etc. How can you NOT be aware of these things?
Racism has no place in anything. If you don't agree, tell me why.
I think the point is just do what you want, with people of quality character, and have quality character yourself. We are all individuals, the idea that you need someone "like you", especially if "like you" just means things like sex or skin color (things we cannot control), is actually very regressive and tribalistic. I mean, can anyone here define what, "like you" even means?
We do a lot better as humans focusing on character and common "culture" (I use this broadly, "love of bike riding" or "passion for literature" are common culture, as are more traditional things like cuisine, language and religion) over superficial qualities.
By "like you" I think most people are referring to matters of identity, things that define you. Things you mentioned like race and sex are not superficial. They actually have a massive impact on the way people live their lives. It's not regressive or tribalistic to acknowledge the impact that someone's race or gender has had on their life.
In the video, Brooke is essentially saying that "just doing what you want" can be harder for people of color and good representation in the media may make "just doing what you want" a bit easier. Should we not listen to that? or give it consideration?
I was tought early on to respect others but also to not care about what others say. There was no role model for me and I was growing up with no one to looking up to.
The reason I double down on this "who cares, I do my own thing" is that I got bullied for my entire life. For my name, for my looks, for my behaviour, for my outfit.
Let's continue on the same slope. I never needed healthcare so why would others need it. I don't need a car so it should be forbidden for others as well. I was never unemployed so let's stop paying unemployment. I will accumulate enough cash before I retire so I don't need a pension and I don't see why others would need it
If you can't get your head around that it is better for anyone to just do what you want without needing a hero, so be it.
But yeah keep explaining how you know more about this topic from your EU white male point of view because you felt excluded in high school because you wore black, had long hair and listened to metal or something like that rofl. This is sooo comparable
Highschool? Entire life is something different or what do you say? Bullied since kindergarten is diffent is it not? You claim to know what's going on? Really, you can't even assume what's up if you wrote this kind of bs.
Last time I had a argument with you, it was the same. You are so far from the truth it's hilarious.
Good. Now just put back your own words in the context of this article, except this time you are on the side of the clueless one commenting about something you don't know...
You want to tell me again everyone needs a hero to look up to ? Why ? What will you gain other then weakening your self and be depended of this person? I Have seen enough people who go crushed because the the person they looked up to let them fall or just made terrible decisions.
Is this your answer, you don't want to be self-sufficient?
That you don't want to answer gives me the impression you have no solution to a problem that actually exist. Why people have a obsession to look at others to do what they want and don't do it if no one does it that they know, not cool enough or what?
Introducing someone to something new they never heard of is good. But I can not imagine how someone never heard of riding bikes in the dust.
Also, it's very sad to me that you believe that "matters of identity" are the "things that define you". I should hope that personally, I am defined by the way I treat people and the things that I work to build and accomplish and the impacts those have on others, not how I look or what combinations of chromosomes I am born with. I also would like to live in a world where others are defined the same way.
I'm sorry you've been taught to think that way, because it's just not a great way to view the world (subjective opinion, I know.) I know you are in Canada, but you might have heard of this famous preacher from the US who, about 60 years ago, gave a speech about a dream. He said, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character." It was a pretty good idea, I think. Unfortunately, your way of thinking has been tried many times before, it's definitely not new and the outcomes were pretty repressive, IMO. I'd recommend checking out a book on the caste system in India.
As for the matters of identity thing, the dictionary definition of identity is "the fact of being who or what a person or thing is". Identity is literally what defines you. That's what the word means.
Lastly, I don't know what you think "my way of thinking" is but all I did was attempt to define representation for you, say that matters of identity are important, and say that we should listen to what Brooke was saying in the video. I would love for you to explain to me how I'm advocating for a caste system or any sort of social hierarchy for that matter.
I wonder what would happen if this audience found out that these two big ideas are directly related, and that basic laws of economics (“economies of scale”) teaches us that increasing the consumer population drives down prices due to the vanishing cost of overhead as a fraction of build cost.
Very literally, getting more people into riding bikes makes bikes cheaper. That’s ECON 101. Not in the short term as demand surges but in the long run as manufacturing stabilizes to match demand.
I love this site but please understand, as a population this is a case study in cognitive dissonance and it’s not a good look.
I am as guilty as the next rider, I'll happily introduce my friends to mountain biking. But internally, I really hope that everyone else, (including hikers, bikers and equestrians), stay off the trails. Covid has driven huge growth in all outdoor sports/activities, but when I roll up to my local trailhead on a Tuesday afternoon and it is full, I don't love the additional trail users.
And if that’s too expensive, then what price point isn’t? And, once you settle on that, what expertise can we draw upon which suggests a viable business model can be built around it - one which, mind you, nobody, in an industry full of creative, positive people, has yet to come up with?
You said, " I'm stoked for Ms. Goudy to be hitting the trails because she wants to and enjoys it". I would compel that I am EQUALLY stoked when ANYONE hits the trails because they want to and enjoy it. For someone to be MORE stoked that a POC enjoys something shows racism, not morality, like many of the virtue-signaling members have posted above.
If a POC FEELS oppression, is it the same as actually experiencing oppression?
I say if someone can show an actual example of oppression that was perpetrated upon them, not their Grandfather, that is a battle I'm willing to fight, and the oppressor should absolutely be called out.
Without a doubt, racism is real, but it is a HUMAN condition (at least in the USA), NOT a systemic one (today), and the USA is the most racially diverse country in history. Historically and globally our populations have been very racially segregated (naturally). ALL races have historical bias and racism components, it is not uniquely a white thing, to claim otherwise is simply, well, racist and ignorant.
I would compel that the current homeless and drug addiction crisis in the USA pose a far greater risk to our society than racial issues, yet the woke narrative, social media, liberal education and the mainstream media keep us distracted with their narrative in order to keep society divided and assure they continue to reap massive profits.
Though there has been a never-ending amount of racial-equity shouting of late, I've yet to see one shred of current "systemic" racism in the USA. Racism is a HUMAN trait. No legislation, beyond what the USA has already done by granting equality to all, can stop racism. It is an inside job, look inside.
Every human, regardless of race, has feelings of inadequacy at times. Do you think that there has never been a poor white kid that felt oppressed by the mountain bike community due to the above-mentioned "barriers"? Hell, as a relatively well-adjusted, financially-secure, confident 53-year-old white male entering the hobby, I've felt some of the same insecurities. Feelings do not equate to oppression.
Kudos to Brooke and ANYBODY (regardless of gender, race, socioeconomic status, etc) that encourages others that want to get into this sport.
i'd bet a dollar that in those geographies, every bike manufacturer sells more bikes with skinny tires than bikes with knobbies.
There's some people here who believe the barriers to full inclusion in outdoors activities is economic. It goes much deeper than that.
Your comments have a common theme of defending those who oppress. All of us colonized a land that was not ours.
So inclusion is about making sure that all people have the right to be included. So time to take the xenophobia elsewhere.
If you don't like "white privilege" them maybe "white supremacy" is more accurate for you, as its a more accurate depiction of what most of Canada's history and politics are about.
I wish for mountain biking to be more inclusive, it is overwhelmingly white, which sucks.
I love seeing these kind of articles and makes me happy to see MTB is moving in a good direction. skyrocketing bike prices do not help at all with lowering the barrier of entry to this "exclusive" sport. I want MTB to be more diverse!
Looking a little racist there
fun to see that people get offended when I say I think it sucks that it is overwhelmingly white. so racist of me Interesting how quick people are to call out what they see as racism against white people. It just makes me sad that not more (diverse) people have access to this high barrier of entry sport. MTB is awesome and I would love more people to be involved and given the opportunity to participate. I meant it sucks for MTB as a sport to not be more diverse. I think diversity is good and does not suck. I did not say that white people suck.
I do not think anyone is shoving MTB into minority's throats? Not sure what you mean with that statement.
Black people in the US just aren't interested by and large. As a black person (as opposed to a simping white liberal) none of my family, relatives, and the vast majority of black people I've encountered care one way or the other.
That said, the only real barrier the sport has is the same one motor sports has, and even skiing: it's expensive!
After that, there is a mental barrier. An ASSUMPTION that some aren't welcome. In truth, that's an emotional flame that's been fanned by liberal media since Democrats gave up the fight AGAINST equal rights in the mid '60's.
As a black person, NOBODY tried to exclude me as a guitar player in punk and metal bands, from skating, track days on motorcycles, or ANYWHERE I've showed up on a mountain bike from Whistler to Windrock. And it's the same professionally. As a computer programmer, I've never been excluded based on race.
This whole "inclusion" idea is BS for a couple of reasons. It assumes "exclusion" is taking place when in fact it's not. It also ignores barriers created by cost (which is a symptom of a far greater problem affecting ALL of us).
I agree with others that this is a "made up problem".
As a black person, I've never felt a need to/for representation before I go ride. Was I suppose to send a herald before going to Whistler the three times I did?
If it is what I think it is, then this entire thing is straight up racist. In what way? Because it demands recognition in some official way of clear designation between the races when they are ALREADY OBVIOUS. It's also a step AWAY from MLK's desire that we all be judged and treated based on our individual character.
How are any of you so threatened by this? How could you not support Brooke G and the riders she’s helping?
You remind me of PC principal.
Same back at you, why wouldn't you believe it? What would their motivation be for lying?
From my POV - as a white person - I have seen racial discrimination with my own eyes. I had access to MTB when I was younger as I grew up in the countryside where almost everyone was white and my parents could afford to get me a bike. I now live in south London and the kids who live around me would never has access to MTB despite living not so far from some trails. Frankly, these kids are predominantly black and from families that probably coulnd't afford bikes etc. So do we just let biking be exclusively for the white kids that grow up in the countryside or can we look for ways to include everyone who wants to try?
I would rather live in a society where something as straightforward as riding bikes in the hills is as least accessible to anyone who wants to try it
You say, " So do we just let biking be exclusively for the white kids that grow up in the countryside or can we look for ways to include everyone who wants to try?"
Which racial barriers are you referring to? Racial? economic? geographic? What do you think can/should be done to help alleviate each of those barriers?
Should there be MTB welfare for those who want to ride but can't afford to? I want to own and operate a superyacht, where do I go sign up? I want to participate in Indy Car racing, where can I go to have a race car provided to me?
Should there be shuttles available to areas where trails are not accessible? Who should pay for those?
Should white people be taxed to pay for POC to MTB until there is, "racial equity" in MTB? What about poor white people who cannot afford it? should they be excluded from benefits because the "white quota" of MTB is already full?
Would there be any kind of virtue-signaling benefit available to those who were taxed, or should they just do it because it is obviously their responsibility to do so?
What is "enough White people" ?
What does "racist" mean to you?
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