Pinnd Launches UK-Made CS2 Pedal
Press Release: Pinnd
Pinnd are now shipping their first component, the CS2 flat mountain bike pedal, made in Scotland.
The brand attended the EWS at Innerleithen 1st-4th October to showcase their first product to enduro e-mtb/mtb riders.
With a long history of precision engineering in aerospace and medical, the brand decided to enter the bike components market when the pandemic affected their normal business back in 2020. Being precision engineers, Supermoto and e-mtb riders the motivation was to create a UK made product in-house under their control with a design that focuses on reliability and longevity.
Pinnd pedals (excluding bearings) are made in-house at their family owned factory and the CS2 pedal has been designed to specifically address the most common issues riders face. The pedal features an aluminium body shaped on a 5-axis CNC machine and titanium spindles as standard. The heavily machined body with a 9mm concave large footprint area hide the internals, which have been designed to keep the elements out and lubrication in.
By using a needle bearing on the inboard side working behind an oil shaft seal, the internals are set to perform longer than most. There is a 5 year warranty against manufacturing defects in place also - made possible by the in-house design and manufacture. The CS2 ships with Stainless Steel pins which feature a 4mm socket removal method and a tapered design for strength.
The CS2 is easily serviced at home in a matter of minutes and all parts are available after-market.
The CS2 comes in a black or natural anodised finish with laser etched branding and are priced at £195 inc VAT. Additional coloured alloy pins or natural finish titanium pins are available.
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I'll go first...
'195 quid? For that?! You're havin' a laugh!'
"Each pin is locally sourced from an organic pin farm."
"Five long years he wore these pedals up his ass. Then, he died of dysentery, gave me the pedals. I hid this uncomfortable hunk of metal up my ass two years. Then, after seven years, I was sent home to my family and now, little man, I give the pedals to you.
The blue jacket guy: You mean a pin.
The beard guy: No, No, No a PINND! Can't you read mate?!
“This pin! Yes this bit right here is why the whole set up costs what it costs”………..
Love the beach seat slogan as well.
“Sit here while you’re not getting pinned”
The hand cleverly covers the rest of the slogan “we are however clowning your credit and bank cards, you’ve just been mugged! Have a nice day”.
I’ve just replaced the bushings in my Spanks, which I have used on and off since 2014, and they are good as gold.
Those plastic pedals looks like the first day,no hit marks everywhere and metal exposed,any of my old metal pedal looked terrible in a few rides.
much grippy in the rain weather;
Six Pack and one up are my favorite, also they even sell rebuild kit for nerd's
I ride DMR Vaults and V11s on mountain bikes (so not plastic) and placcy V6s on BMX, I've yet to slip a pedal on the V6s, find them comfy in Vans and my lad runs them very happily on his hardtail without slipping.
I've also found it's quite easy to buy your own pins and drill/screw them into any plastic pedal (within reason) and it works pretty well as a halfway house. The V11s are pretty sweet for the plastic with metal pins setup.
My meaningless opinion is £195 for pedals is for wankers. I've spent less on pedals for 4 bikes.
Maybe I should nip down the skatepark and tell all those BMXing fellows that they aren't paying enough for their pedals, that these pedals cost as much as their frames do, bound to impress them.
You're making strawmen to get mad at. There will always be a cheaper option. I could be running no name $10 plastic pedals. Point people are trying to get across to you is that plastic pin pedals are not good enough for the serious riding most of us do, especially when any moisture is present.
I own a pair of V6s. They're on my BMX. They're not MTB worthy pedals. Take the outrage elsewhere.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/20118350
Why aren't you running V6 pedals dude? You're literally on metal pin pedals while arguing they're not needed. Jesus.
I get along just fine with plastic V11s on a hardtail. Plastic V6s on a BMX, which is my commuter and sees a fair bit of punishment on a daily commute in London (ie Pothole City) and on BMX tracks and alloy Vaults on the weekend warrior machine. I feel no difference between alloy Vaults and plastic V11s in terms of grip, they have both lasted years, and for the money the V6s are a really good pedal with a lot of grip, only been running them for 9 months but they are holding up well. That's my experience, not my opinion, I'm actually field testing here and to me plastic pedals seem to do the job just as well.
My opinion is that sure you can pay £195 for pedals, cos you're worth it, you work hard, it's a nice to treat yourself, but you really don't need to unless you are seriously looking for a performance edge or extraordinary durability (assuming you actually get this for £195). Most of us are riding bikes for fun, fitness etc and that sort of expense isn't actually worth it.
By the way those pedals looks very good.
At no point was I arguing you don't need metal pins but for the hard of reading:
Plastic pedals with metal pins (V11s in my case) work fine and grip compares to alloy Vaults.
I also find V6s with plastic pins work great for BMX, and my lad likes them a lot on his HT and doesn't slip.
"I'd argue it means very little but perhaps my experience with 3 different bikes of my own plus my kids' bikes has some bearing on where I think value lies and whether plastic pedals are incomparable."
"I still don't fully understand mountain biking but a lot of it seems to be about how much you pay for stuff, then convince yourself that the quality and therefore performance is so much better."
Then sit down and be quiet... your experience with pedals on a BMX bike is completely irrelevant as is what your kid says...
These aren't extruded aluminium pedals (finished on a three axis CNC router).
These aren't cast aluminium pedals.
No. These are CNC machined on a five axis router from a solid chunk of aluminium. Not necessarily because it gets you a pedal that will help you ride so much better/longer than with any of the options mentioned above. Just because their market is so small that they'd rather not they'd rather not invest in product specific tools (molds, dies) nor in product specific prefabricates.
RRP £140.00 // €175.00 // $180.00 (ex tax)" from Hope web.
In some shops more like 160-170 €.
Don't forget the ever essential waste of time and space that's stem caps!
If it is just derivative crap, they'll fail and be out of business eventually anyway, and you can pat yourself on the back for being right about one thing. Or maybe they have something that enough people want, and they'll have carved out a little niche, doing something besides sitting behind a desk or on an assembly line working for peanuts while some suits get filthy rich.
These are likely to last bloody ages and work well, hard sell though.
So they don’t even ride MTB?
I used to run superstars and thought they were good until I was Introducced to vaults. Night and day difference. I have vaults on all my bikes now
I've also had the nukeproof plastic pedals. Still not even close to been in the same league
The cheap Chinese scudgood pedals are amazing. Super strong and well designed. Really comfortable under my (size 13) feet. They survived the scariest moment I’ve had on a bike, when I (at 260lb) came up short on a road gap and landed flat from a decent height. I could barely walk the next day but everything on the bike survived with no damage. I looked at a few parts under the microscope to check for damage that wasn’t obvious and no cracks or signs of damage beyond normal cosmetic wear. I will rebuild the pedals soon as winter is almost over so I will put the whole axle under the scope then.
Wow thats crazy, I've bent the exle on a couple vaults and even bent 2 sets of cranks. I'll check them out
I've been buying bike parts now long enough that my wife has given up asking and/or pretending to be surprised at how much things cost. We've just started buying "proper" bikes for the kids eg Islabike and they are starting to cost real money, but that said she would still go through the f'ing roof if I told her I spent that much money on a pair of flat pedals!
For me ingredients to this formula are:
- not thicker than 15mm
- slightly concave
- no smooth surface pins (just use screws)
- long not too long pins
- not too long (too long pedals make it easier to flip a pedal)
having said this, this pedal is basically unrideable for me.
Superstar Components: hold my UK-made, titanium-axled pedals for half the price of these
@justanotherusername you're right, but them being out of stock has no relevance to the price discussion. It's not like they're some vapourware. They were available before and it's fair to assume they'll be back. Lots of people use them and got them for around £100 with the Ti axle. Does where the axle is made really add £95 worth of value or production cost? I doubt the latter and as for the former, body machining and assembly is "UK-made enough" for me I guess.
BTW, I don't even have the Nanos, just used them as an example of something comparable (though I do have SS wheels). Personally, £45 Chesters do the job for me just fine with less bling but lighter weight. For alu I'd get £99 OneUps because of their shape. If someone wants to buy £195 pedals for reasons unrelated to how they feel under their feet, it's fine and more power to Pinned for their salesmanship. I just, like some others here, think it's a pretty lazy business idea.
Now I’m not bashing superstar pedals as I think they are great for the price but you have you see that a Taiwanese axle and imported 6000 series extrusion pedal body which is machined to final shape and assembled to a design that pretty much mimics the original HT Taiwanese model is very different to a ground up designed and made in the UK product at super low quantities and from higher grade materials all over.
Different markets, not that I think £200 is realistic for me for a pedal.
Will superstar pedals be as cheap when (if) they eventually re-surface? Who knows, but they are definitely a great value option.
interested passerby *points at pedal*
"what's that in your hand?"
guy running booth *points at pedal*
"believe it or not, this right here is a pedal"
I would definitely prefer a set that could be greased regularly without a tear down.
Its pretty easy to loosen an end-cap and nut, slide the body out, clean and de-grease, light grease coating and back together on a quality pedal.
Is that not kinda the minimum you'd expect?