Video: The Aluminium Propain Rage Has Its Sights Set on Bike Parks

Nov 22, 2018 at 6:21
by PROPAIN-Bicycles  
RAW RAGE | Propain x Loshackos

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In recent years many downhill bike developments were focused on creating uncompromising race machines. Also, the recently updated carbon Rage with 27,5” and 29” wheels rather targets ambitious racers than the everyday park shredder. Therefore, Propain redesigned the Rage Alloy to be a simple, sturdy, and robust downhill bike which focuses on reduced needs for maintenance while still delivering maximum performance for the high speeds and big hits that a park bike has to take.

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The new Rage frame has been completely redesigned, rolls on 650B wheels, and is available in three frame sizes (S, M, L). The geometry is inspired by the Rage Carbon and based on the experience of our World Cup team. The frame design however is inspired by the popular Spindrift frame.

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Highlights

• Propain Blend Alloy - Smooth welded 6013 / 6061 T6 aluminum
• Modern geometry
• Clean design
• PRO10 rear suspension system
• Propain DIRT SHIELD - double sealed bearings
• Rock strike downtube protector
• Internal cable routing
• Threaded bottom bracket

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A clean, sturdy and robust frame was the development goal for Propain’s engineering team. So Propain said “good bye” to some features of the previous Rage frame, such as the split seat tube design. The new design was inspired by the design of the popular Spindrift frame. In fact, some of Propain’s customers and Propain staff were fantasizing about a long travel version of the Spindrift for some time – a “Spindrift on Steroids”

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A downhill bike based on the Spindrift with more travel and a double crown fork was also the wet dream of the Los Hackos Crew. They´ve already tested the Rage extensively and thanks to its superior suspension performance and lots of pop they ranked this bike very high on their fun scale. David Erstling and Vali Gröger will take you with them to Lenzerheide and show you what the brand new Rage is all about. Los Hackos Crew member Marius Badstuber is a professional filmer and DJ who will not only show you the finest bike park action but also raw bike sound.

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Specs

As for Propain other bike models, their online configuration tool offers three basic configuration packages which you can further adapt to your wishes. The Rage can be ordered now in the online shop of Propain.

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Geometry

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85 Comments
  • 74 10
 @Propain @thebikeindustry — I love a product launch just as much as the next guy, but with sites like Pinkbike consumers are more educated than ever. While yes, video content that inspires people to ride or own a mountain bike may envoke them to purchase one of your products, I emplore you to recognize I could create similar content on a WalMart bicycle. Tell us what is different about your bike. What does it do that the plethora of alternatives cant. Moreover, tell us why we should buy your bike.
  • 6 1
 I completely agree with this. Reading this, I got the impression it was generic and didn't highlight any USPs that the Rage has. But to be fair to Propain, I find that this is getting more common across the mtb industry in general.
  • 21 0
 It's a short bike that can hold a water bottle. What more do you want?
  • 2 0
 with those highlights listed I seriously ask myself about the added value of the bike. clean design FTW.....
  • 3 1
 Team robot used to love to pick these apart for these types of shenanigans.
  • 2 3
 @colincolin: a Park bike with room for a Waterbottle ?!??!? Put me down for one!
  • 4 0
 I have no idea why auto correct made "short" out of "DH" but I can't change it so...
  • 13 1
 I imagine it is because basically every bike that comes out these days is not a bad bike. They just put the geometry numbers and a price there, and let people decide if it is the bike for them. I thought people wanted less marketing BS shoved down their throat?
  • 2 1
 The geo on these is bloody great.
  • 3 0
 @leon-forfar: Absolutely, who actually cares about the BS ? That's how silly "innovation" happened
  • 1 0
 The point of the release is how much it differs from the carbon version. That said, it is a park bike and there aren't that many of those, as park rats, for some reason, seen to buy race machines, not jump machines.
  • 27 5
 The carbon bubble is about to burst and companies are scrambling. Carbon bikes simply do not justify the luxury price tags. The only problem I see is that now the reasonably priced alu frames will begin to get inflated for no reason.

How many carbon frames are sitting in warehouses collecting dust?

Hey YT, I hope you're paying attention... why dont you consider cranking out some more Alu Jeffsey's? Every Alu is sold out yet your carbon offerings are available because no one is buying them. Do the math.
  • 6 1
 Couldn't it be that they limit the production of alu versions of the bike to direct consumers to opt for the carbon bikes that may be generating higher margins for them?
  • 23 2
 ??? The top of the line Tues is 300 euros less than the Rage with a similar build. Carbon and Alu both have their pros and cons it’s great that we have tons of options. I prefer carbon in most cases, and Alu for park since the bike will take a lot more dings and tumbles over time. It doesn’t have to be one or the other. Relax, enjoy the options and ride what you like. There are far more important things to be angry about.

And for the record, all mountain bikes are luxury items. The fact that we have discretionary time and income is a luxury that is not the norm for a substantial portion of the population.
  • 5 5
 @MTB-Colada: that's likely exactly what they tried to do, as well as other companies - and how'd that work out for them? YT just lost a $3k sale and I'd never even think about the carbon bike at double the price. So they got nothing. Shooting themselves in the foot, betting it all on carbon and now they realize the gamble didn't pay off.
  • 6 5
 @Bliss503: tons of options??

You can either buy 1 of the very limited alu frames that maybe 10 frames per size get made - Or buy a plastic bike at twice the cost because the alu isnt available.

That's not options, that's called forcing consumers to buy something they dont want.
  • 6 1
 @NYShred: yes, many optuons from multiple brands; nothing to debate there and no conspiracy. The market dicatates what is offered and brands are responding by providing alu and carbon. No one is forcing anyone to buy carbon.Your choice to be angry at companies is your choice, just know they run with tight margins and have to make choices based om market demand and respond as quockly as possible. Dpn’t like it? Then start your own company and experience the joy of a fickle market. Like I said, there are plenty if alu options so but what you want.

Note that my comments are in reference to your 1st paragraph, about the entire market. Re YT,!gheir choice on what they sell and I jave no interest in giving them armchair market, supply chain, or fiscal advice. Especially true aince they are a German company and have very

It’s mountain biking dud - relax and enjoy it.

On the possitive, Propain is a great company as well and cool that they offering ip park options and not just race oriented DH bikes
  • 1 0
 @NYShred: that's how I ended up on my Kona. Slowly upgrading as parts break.
  • 13 0
 Now aluminium bikes are going to be more expensive then carbon.
  • 10 1
 I love Fox suspension products, but last time I checked the service interval on a Fox40 (especially CASHima) is 12 hours. Most park shredders don't have the $$ or support crew to work on their fork after every weekend.
  • 2 2
 They say that because thats what they believe is the best time to keep your fork consistent in setting that you like and consistent buttery feel. After that things will maybe start to feel different. I would never service my suspension that much. Cost too much and I will still be satisfied after 30 hours on the suspension.
  • 16 1
 f*ck that! 6 month lower service and a 1 year full service! It’ll be fine
  • 1 0
 Save money, just change the oil in the legs every few months and in the cartridge every year. I would do just a little bit more oil into the legs and the air-chamber as in the manual described. For me there is no reason to change any seals mid season as long everything works well. Take a look by the golfers accessories if you need a 5$ clamp-tool for the cartridge. Check the Fox service manuals and you can see that every step is very easy. Beside the original oil for the damping, you can take cheaper oil for the legs.
  • 3 1
 I'm guessing the 12 hours is actual movement of the suspension, not 12 hours out at the bike park. So if each run is around 10 minutes and you do 9 runs that's only an hour and a half of actual fork or shock movement a day. So after 8 or 9 days at the park, you do a oil change. That sounds reasonable for me to keep my suspension working top notch. Definitely not the lengthy service intervals of say an 888 but the internals are a little more precise as far as I know.
  • 1 0
 YES! This +10, people do not consider this at all! This is the reason I opted out of a RS World Cup on my second park bike 20 hour service intervals, 15 to 16 hours of riding and I knew I needed to service. I was doing a service monthly and always seemed to be behind on it. Boxxer Team just needs some oil in the lowers once a month and feels just as nice as the WC 90% of the time.
  • 1 0
 @seismicninja: Its is based on time of suspension movement, but charging braking bumps or tech trails is not the same as flow, type of riding plays a huge factor here, I never got the 20 hours out of my WC before the oil was toast.
  • 11 1
 Really glad to see aluminium starting to become more of a focus for some manufacturers again. Long live metal and welds!
  • 8 0
 aluminium is the thing now. Gonna see lotsa pros rolling on alu frames in coming weeks.
  • 7 0
 Team Commencal doesn't seem to mind :>.
  • 12 1
 Alu frames rolling on a new fun sized "26 wheels with retro paint jobs will be huuuge in 2019-20.
  • 10 3
 Cue people moaning about the shock getting covered in dirt. ITS GOT A GUARD!
  • 18 0
 The guard will be covered in dirt!!! No sale!
  • 9 2
 Dirt has no boundaries. Mud had no limits. Guards on bikes like these do little too nothing.
  • 9 3
 I've never understood why people worry so much about rear shock position when their stanchions are getting covered in sh!t, what's the difference?
  • 13 0
 Obviously they missed the section on propain & propain accessories @mcozzy
  • 11 1
 4 years on a similar design with just an aliby guard. Not even remotely as effective as the one on the Propain.
Shock gets caked on a regular basis.
Shock service has been criminally neglected.
No problems whatsoever.

It´s not a problem people.
  • 3 2
 I dont know, that shock placement is something I just cant stand behind.
  • 2 1
 @Boardlife69: I had a Corsair Kong with the shock right in the line if fire. It went through rear eyelet bushings twice a year. Never again would I buy a bike with the shock exposed like that. In the front triangle only.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: konig was a great bike for dry dusty dirt parks. I loved mine but never had a mud issue. I guess it comes with where you live.
  • 2 1
 @raddog: I guess it's a case of once bitten, twice shy. I would not touch this Propain with yours!
  • 7 1
 Wtf's with the hate for carbon? I've cracked more old alu frames than carbon, to the point that carbon from es work out cheaper for me than alu.
  • 3 0
 For all those concerned about mud and shock: i have a Spindrift, that is basically the same but with 180mm travel. Had a couble of runs in the muckiest conditions ever, and the shock was the cleanest part of rider-bike system. 'nuff said.
  • 2 0
 I have a spindrift and the shock is fine with the mudguard. No muddier than any of my friends on bikes with shocks in various "normal" positions. Also, what makes this rage more bike park specific? As far as I can see this alu rage with factory 40s, dhx2, code rscs and a few other nice bits comes in for me around 3800 and would be brilliant for racing.
  • 5 0
 thanks propain for realising not everybody in the market for a new dh bike wants a full on race bike only
  • 3 0
 When I woke up this morning and read the news about YT Capra limited edition, no carbon just alloy and now Propain rage alloy with considerably affordable price tag, I must've woken up in the different world
  • 3 1
 You can easily run original Spindrift at 196 mm of rear travel without affecting geo and pedaling behaviour (if keeping sag as for 180mm rear travel) just by removing shaft spacer in shock.
  • 3 1
 Fine if you don’t care about warranty
  • 2 2
 @Bigwill13: ?
  • 3 1
 Changing your bikes speced travel is going to void your warranty. If of course you’re not bothered or the bike is 2nd hand then that’s no problem @Baba-Ji:
  • 6 1
 Bring this to the states and put 26s on it and u have my money.
  • 1 0
 I'm in.
  • 1 0
 I will keep the 27.5 but bring this damn bike to the states
  • 1 0
 What makes this a "park" bike as opposed to a race bike? I only ask as I'm in the market for a new race bike but have a soft spot propain and am also leaning towards alloy so this would be right up my street.
  • 2 0
 Marketing makes it a park bike.
Marketing dictates that "Carbon" and "Racing" has to be reserved for the high end, high price options.
This bikes numbers are perfectly in line with many other offerings from different brands, for example the YT Tues. The only difference between this and the Carbon Rage is the potential increase in chainstay length and 0.5 degrees in headangle which, if we´re being realistic, is much more in the realm of personal preference than anything else.
So if you´re not adamant about the longest chainstays possible or demand a headangle of exactly 63 degrees, this should be great for racing.
I´m strongly considering this for my next bike as it really seems to hit a very reasonable middle ground for geometry.
  • 4 0
 BOOOO! for NO shipping to the US of A
  • 2 0
 Seriously!
  • 3 2
 Awesome bikes....and the green army colour is just killing me. In few weeks i will receive my spindrift 2019..cant wait to go on the trails with that beauty Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Lucky you! I love mine - where ever i go with it!
  • 3 0
 That is an awesome looking ride!!
  • 4 0
 ALU ALL THE WAY
  • 3 0
 2019 -> Aluminium is the new Carbon in industry xD
  • 8 0
 2020 the return of cromo? Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @winko: Seriously thinking about a Propain or a Privee Shan N.5 Big Grin
  • 1 2
 "The rage can now be ordered in the online shop of Propain"*

* ONLY if you are in the following countries:

Germany 4,90 € 39,95 €
EU 14,95 € 59,00 €
Sweden 14,95 € 59,00 €
Luxembourg 14,95 € 59,00 €
Czech Republic 14,95 € 59,00 €
Switzerland 15,00 € 107,40 €
Rest of Europe 29,00 € 89,00 €
Australia 45,00 € 267,00 €
New Zealand 45,00 € 267,00 €
Hongkong 45,00 € 267,00 €
Norway 29,00 € 89,00 €
Denmark 29,00 € 89,00 €
Lichtenstein 29,00 € 89,00 €
Ukraine 29,00 € 89,00 €
Croatia 35,00 € 99,00 €
Iceland 35,00 € 99,00 €
Russia 35,00 €
  • 1 0
 I'm still waiting for a XL frame. Tried a L last year, what a great handling machine. Loved it!
  • 3 0
 Hank Hill approved.
  • 2 0
 Another Propain in the ass that you cannot buy in the US.
  • 1 0
 Bike looks great, but I could ride all of that on my '12 Covert. Would have been sweet to see it working on true DH tracks.
  • 1 0
 suspension looks a lot like my antidote lifeline.... and that is MOST definitely a GOOD thing!!!
  • 1 0
 Has anyone in North America figured out how to get these bikes here???
  • 1 0
 This is Bull$hit
  • 1 0
 Maybe you guys could build the dhr for turner?
  • 2 0
 Ahh the Brorage
  • 1 0
 Wow Drool great specs! Looks like a very fun bike
  • 1 1
 How often do you have too rebuild the rear shock as even with a mud guard its going get really caked in mud?
  • 2 0
 It is NO problem. There are bikes with even worse positions of the shock. Look at the V10.
  • 1 0
 @Werratte: Yes nice one, seems like rear shock is going too get muddy, but DH bikes get jet washed after every run anyway!
  • 1 0
 but i know my antidote rotates around the bb
  • 1 0
 Nailed it with the spindrift video,this one not so much.
  • 1 0
 Mean! Looks like a KX 250 with motor and mud guards removed.
  • 1 0
 where the f*ck is this park please ??
  • 1 0
 Wtf not available in the USA cmon Propain bikes this is 2919 damn near
  • 1 0
 Gorgeous bike!
  • 1 2
 445mm Chainstay? for a bikepark bike? No thanks.
  • 2 0
 I wonder if it's because of the shock position? Perhaps don't rule it out though. I recently bought a Canyon Sender Al (large) and so far I prefer it in the long chainstay position (mainly park stuff)







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