Revel Releases Tirade Titanium Hardtail

Feb 13, 2024 at 9:36
by Revel Bikes  
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PRESS RELEASE: Revel Bikes

There is often a satisfaction in mountain biking that only a classic, well-designed hardtail can provide. The simplicity, connection to the trail, and absolute fun you get out of these bikes is what makes them so attractive.

The Tirade, a titanium hardtail trail bike, draws inspiration from Revel's full-suspension Rascal. Incorporating a 140mm fork, progressive geometry, and adaptable chainstay lengths, it embodies a dream hardtail trail bike. Shorter seat tube lengths with ample insertion depth have been designed to accommodate longer dropper posts, allowing riders to tailor it to their preferred riding style. Slam those sliders in, and the 425mm chainstays make for a manual-friendly jib machine. Slide them back a bit, and you get a stable, capable trail shredder. Whether opting for a single-speed setup or multiple gears, the choice is yours.

The heart and soul of this bike is our modern take on traditional titanium. This frame is made using cold formed 3/2.5 titanium tubing to achieve its stunning looks while optimizing stiffness and compliance. To meet the demands for increased strength, the headtube, bottom bracket shell, and dropouts are CNC machined from solid blocks of 6/4 titanium, emphasizing durability and resilience.

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Details and Key Features:

• Frame Material: Titanium
• Front Travel: 140mm
• Wheel Size: 29”
• 5 sizes: Small, Medium, Large, XL, XXL
• Frame weight: 2,290g (5.05lbs) size Large
• Size-appropriate seat tube angles. Slightly steeper on XL and XXL
• Shorter seat tubes with long insertion depths to run longer dropper posts
• Internal cable routing – clean, quiet, and simple
• SRAM UDH derailleur hanger
• Sliding Dropouts with 17mm of chainstay length adjustability

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PRICING

FRAME ONLY: $2,499.00
SRAM GX EAGLE: $5,199.00
SRAM GX TRANSMISSION: $5,999.00
SHIMANO XT: $5,499.00
SRAM XO TRANSMISSION: $6,999.00
SRAM XX TRANSMISSION: $9,599.00

More info: revelbikes.com




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147 Comments
  • 303 3
 "Titanium hardtails never get old".......Just the people who buy them.
  • 36 0
 Hahaha...and when our back and knees say enough is enough, we buy a titanium full-sus.
  • 2 48
flag RedBurn (Feb 14, 2024 at 7:03) (Below Threshold)
 nobody buys that.... i'm serious.
  • 27 6
 I don't know how it works in UK, but in Poland you start earning good money more or less about 40ty, which is exactly when you are too old for a hardtail Smile
  • 17 0
 @lkubica: I'm 52 and still ride a hardtail. Alu not Ti so there is no give in it either.
  • 3 0
 @Bitelio: That's exactly what I did !
  • 18 0
 As an old person that said "ooft" when I saw this beautiful ti hardtail. I'm offended
  • 3 0
 god damn you! *cries in Honzo Ti*
  • 2 0
 @paulskibum: There are some manufacturers that make supple aluminum frames. I have a Banshee Enigma and it’s “plush” compared to other Al frames I’ve tried. Wider tires and inserts can also provide more cushion for the pushin’.
  • 6 0
 @lkubica: I built my Ti hardtail up at 48. Still able to enjoy it.
  • 1 0
 This is true lol
  • 11 0
 The older I get, the better titanium hardtails look... alright, alright, alright
  • 8 1
 @TurboDonuts: my experience is most cheap Aluminum hardtails are quite flexi, they just lack the pretentious marketing of expensive ones
  • 2 0
 @Bitelio: those barely exist
  • 2 0
 @TurboDonuts:
Paradox V3 rider here and doing the same. Set up right it's comfortable and pliant for a hardtail.
  • 1 1
 @The-Reverend: That's great to hear. The v2 Paradox was such a boneshaker. In the era before droppers, I used a shimmed 27.2 post in mine to add some compliance.
  • 2 0
 @Ignaciosc22: true. Not easy nor cheap to find them. I did!!!
  • 2 0
 @Smashmouth: what did you get? Not many options out there....
  • 20 1
 Owned many ti hardtails and it’s a snappy ride that’s well appreciated when done right. Have mine in SS mode currently - it’s awesome.
Maybe not for huge days, but for quick single track and especially night riding it’s the right tool for the job. Riding hardtail/and or SS just make you a more well rounded rider especially when you are on your full boing trail bike.
Done many a laps @ Tiger (a Seattle OG trail) and always a blast.
Just turned 60 - if you need an e bike in your 30-50’s (outside of medical reasons) you’re just a bit soft in the heart/lungs/legs and willpower.
  • 3 0
 @lkubica: You also start taking less and less risks so it is evening out.
  • 1 0
 @xciscool: what do you expect from people who buy a titanium 2500 pound frame? To admit it rides exactly like the aluminium one they retired? They never will!
  • 78 4
 What a palette cleanser after all these bloated e-bikes and Scotts that look like e-bikes. So clean.
  • 20 2
 I agree, but I think you mean "palate".
  • 24 0
 @notai: I think it's palette because no paint. Big Grin
  • 2 0
 @notai: if he's proposing a raw Ti frame, maybe both Smile
  • 17 0
 @number44: we can all agree it is certainly not pallet!
  • 1 0
 Bloated e-bikes are better for your patella.
  • 1 0
 I think you mean plate cleanser, as you will burn extra calories soaking up the bumps with your legs
  • 46 0
 UDH on sliding dropouts is a move! I don't feel like I have seen that much yet.
  • 24 3
 Transition Transam also has it. Hardtails without sliding dropouts are just a no go in my book.
  • 7 0
 Paragon Machine Works has been offering those for some time I believe
  • 2 1
 Chameleon
  • 3 1
 would love to see the comparable XT build. To me that derailleur cage hangs REALLY low...
  • 2 0
 @fastford337: the XT build is listed on their website... $5500 for a pretty nicely spec'ed bike.
  • 2 0
 @pandafoo: my old Kona unit as well. With the brake adapter on the sliding piece it's pretty slick
  • 3 0
 Rodeo labs offers it with their "UGH"(universal gravel hangar).
  • 2 0
 Esker Japhy and Hayduke have them standard for 2024 and backwards compatible with any of their hardtail frames from ever.
  • 3 2
 @pandafoo: can you please enlighten me on why this is? No one begs for sliders on suspension bikes. Is there that many people still single speeding? Seems like modern geo suck for SS. The added complexity of sliders is a put off for me. A failure point.
  • 2 1
 @GTscoob: That is the thing that turns me off from this right now. As a Why S7 v2 owner (precursor to this bike), I am interested in buying the sliding dropout inserts for Transmission directly from Revel so I can move to that setup - but they will not sell them (I started asking months ago when I knew this bike was in the works).

Excuse given was "spacing won't work for Transmission", which is bullsh*t, it's a boost frame and I can run a 0mm offset ring on the cranks to get to a 55mm chainline. No different than the El Jefe that came out before Transmission did, but now can get UDH dropouts for, and the frame didn't change a bit to accommodate.

Pretty funny coming from a company that touts their environmentally sound and recyclable rims and overall stance on it, but would rather me buy an entire new frame to get the parts I need to keep a customer happy. Guess times are tough for Revel / Why, gotta get those $$ from somewhere....
  • 12 0
 @blaklabl: There are two UDH sliding dropouts under on Revel/Why bikes. There is the UDH sliding dropout designed when the bikes were Why branded. This is before transmission was a product. The transmission cassette sits 2.5mm further outboard than a standard eagle cassette and will interfere with the original sliding dropout design. The sliding dropout on everything Revel branded is pushed further outboard to accommodate this. But in order to make this change and keep the dropout structural sound we had to push out the chain stay on the non drive side to accommodate the new design. This is what makes the new design not compatible with older frames. While both frames are boost if you measure the frame spacing without the sliding dropouts installed you will find the newer frames are wider spacing.

Would have loved to see an S7 with ET but unfortunately it doesn't work.
  • 1 0
 @blaklabl: chainstay clearance on the s7 won't work with transmission, sorry homie
  • 1 0
 @Nuklear: cannot wait to snag me a Flaanimal.
  • 2 0
 @speed10: TheRadavist has entered the chat.
  • 1 0
 @speed10: modern geo is fantastic for singlespeeds coupled with short chainstays. Rear tire traction is greatly improved and body positioning is more neutral between sitting and standing. I spin out far less on climbs and have way more fun on the downs. I had a custom made Merinobike frame with very similar geo to this but and eccentric bottom bracket. I have seen sliding dropouts fail and it can make for a really long day.
  • 28 0
 Is this the year we really start to see Continental tires specified on bike builds in the US? Is Maxxis finally getting some real competition in the OEM market?
  • 27 1
 Always been a Maxxis guy. Tried the new Kryptotals and I am now a Continental fan.
  • 2 0
 I hope not, my fucking pair of Kryptotals has been on order from Jenson for months
  • 9 0
 @endoguru: same here. Those Kryptotal DH’s have been the most noticeably excellent tire I’ve ever used.
  • 1 0
 That would explain why the Enduro Soft versions are always backordered. It's been 2 years and they're hardly ever in stock. You can order them on eBay from Europe, but you pay premium, and you might get a fake.
  • 2 0
 @fentoncrackshell: It’s even worse for the DH Super Soft versions. Those are often sold out or priced outrageously even in Conti‘s home country.
  • 1 2
 @Ttimer: If you want DH w/ Supersoft compound, you might have better luck buying 2 "Rear" tires, and running them front and rear. It's essentially the same as a DHR2, so it's still a great front tire for mixed winter conditions and light mud.
  • 1 0
 It's about the cost, Contis are way less than Maxxis.
  • 21 5
 Photo is private, pinkbike pirates Titanium frames all the look the same Maxxis wobble, e-bike throttlez
  • 22 6
 love it except for that curved down tube/head tube junction
  • 8 0
 Clearance for the fork crown I believe, very common to do this
  • 2 0
 Do you even bar spin bro? I actually saw a video the other day where some kiddies grip2 damper was rubbing on the bolts of his specialized downtube. Long story short "fork options".
  • 15 0
 Wow, stock with Kryptotals F/R is awesome! More of this please
  • 4 1
 Rear tire is Xynotal in the photos?
  • 1 2
 @kanioni: photos are set to private. Explain yourself.
  • 2 0
 @kanioni: Yep! Didnt catch that at first.
  • 11 0
 So Why Cycles is now under Revel. Those are really beautiful bikes.
  • 8 3
 Revel was always a part of Why Cycles. They were both started by Adam Miller, who previously created Borealis fat bikes.
Looks like the end of Why Cycles, though. Why (no pun intended) else would Revel build a bike that would directly compete with it's sister brand's lineup?
  • 3 0
 @roxtar: I thought that was the case with the founder. They just announced that Why is now teamed up with Revel. Using the brand recognition from Revel to sell more of your high end hardtails seems like a smart move.
  • 1 2
 @blinglespeed: If it works like that?

Why Cycles builds Ti hardtails. Now Revel is building a Ti hardtail.
Like I said above, why would you build a bike that is in direct competition with your other bike line? Not generally the best business model.

Possibly because you're planning to fold your other bike line?
Hopefully I'm wrong.
  • 8 0
 @roxtar: "We made the decision to merge the two companies under the Revel name in 2023 to simplify things for ourselves and our customers. With our powers combined, we can offer much more streamlined and comprehensive service, operate more efficiently as a business and communicate more effectively as a brand."

www.whycycles.com/revel-why-faq/#:~:text=We%20made%20the%20decision%20to,more%20effectively%20as%20a%20brand.
  • 3 0
 @jalopyj: synergies ftw
  • 3 0
 @roxtar: ...why cycles has been gone for sometime now .
  • 3 0
 @VtVolk: holistic synergies
  • 2 0
 @jalopyj: OK, that's what I thought.
  • 7 0
 Steel is real. Geo is pretty standard, nothing that exciting here folks.

In the Eastern rockies, I still see many people slam Fox38/Zebs running 160ish on their Rootdown and clones... I like that Revel spec'd a Lyrik.

Zeb/Fox 38 is too stiff and heavy, though supple in use of its mid-stroke, and is basically designed for gravity oriented riding on a full suspension bike.

Being that a Chromag Rootdown is designed to be very capable down, but also capable everywhere else, a proper 'Trail' (even enduro) fork provides that balance of needed stiffness, without being fatiguing, while the latest from a 36/Lyrik/Diamond/Ohlins has just as much of the advanced features you'd find in Zeb/Fox38.

A Hardtail is not ment to be a downhill bike, so it doesn't need a downhill fork.
  • 5 0
 Steel is real affordable too. This frame is mass-produced and only about 300g lighter than a comparable steel trail hardtail (Esker Japhy). For the same money ($2500), you could get a Banshee Paradox (aluminum) or a Cotic BFeMAX (Reynolds 853) and have an extra $1500 to spend on the wheels and fork. The differences in frame ride quality would be subtle, compared to better wheels and suspension.
  • 1 0
 Lyrik on my Blue Pig and Zeb on the “Ti Grim Ripper”. I get what you’re saying, but it inspires confidence every time I point it downhill.
  • 3 0
 I thought the 38 worked really well on my last chromag
  • 2 0
 @Confluence-Outdoors: can't beat a 160 lyric on a blue pig
  • 1 0
 I couldn’t agree with this more. I’ve got a lyrik on my Doctahawk. Went to a bigger stanchion fork and it was exhausting from all the stiffness. Had to go back to lyrik.
  • 10 1
 I came here to yell “All hardtails should have sliding dropouts” but I was pleasantly surprised
  • 1 1
 Can you explain why?
  • 3 0
 @Dogl0rd: easier to set up single speed for one. Two, you can dial your chainstay length to match your overall stack so you can keep enough weight on the front tire. Three, adjusting for different sized tires.

Really, points 1 and 2 are the more important.
  • 2 0
 @ripridesbikes: nice, #2 would be nice for all bikes
  • 3 0
 @ripridesbikes: Cheers for that explanation, makes great sense.
  • 4 0
 @Dogl0rd: @ripridesbikes pretty much hit the nail on the head here. But for me, it’s the ability to run single speed.
  • 7 0
 Nothing brings people together like a new hardtail.
  • 5 0
 If you've got Ti money why wouldn't you buy American made and support a small builder instead of buying something made over seas?
  • 3 0
 Genuine question for the ti fans out there, I have owned steel and aluminum hardtails and road bikes and the ride quality of steel is far superior to aluminum, but is ti that much better than steel that you’d pay the equivalent price of a high end carbon enduro bike for a hard tail? Steel rides great and is cheap, this particular ti frame isn’t any lighter than steel so what is the point of paying that much?
  • 2 0
 I bought my Ti hardtail in part for the exotic factor - I just don't see very many. I honestly can't tell much difference in the feel vs my aluminum hardtail that I have setup SS, or my carbon trail bike. Where I do notice the difference is between my Ti gravel bike vs my steel road bike. In that case the Ti bike is way more forgiving.
  • 1 1
 Why do people buy BMW Audi or Mercedes, when a Toyota is way more reliable? Vanity ... Mid Life Crisis Mobiles
Same thing here. Go buy a steel frame from Knolly or Cromag etc. They look way better, (Color Options!) and ride better than Ti as well, more springy less dead Ti feeling, Especially if you get one with S bend curves in the seat stays.
  • 6 1
 Looks great, good geo, reasonable price for what it is.
Nice job Revel/Why!
  • 6 0
 This bike has a slacker ht angle than Revels 170mm enduro bike...
  • 7 0
 Yes it does, when measured static. Once a rider is aboard and weights the front wheel, compressing the fork, the frame rotates slightly around the rear axle, steepening the head angle.
  • 4 0
 @dlford: or conversely, when a rider is on a FS bike it doesn't sag equally front to rear, rear sags more so *actual* HTA angle a FS bike, particularly one with lots of rear travel, is lower than what it is on paper.
  • 1 0
 @dlford: yeah yeah but it’s still a very trail oriented hard tail with more aggressive static geo than their long travel enduro bike…not something you see often.
  • 1 0
 @bbachmei: you see it more and more these days. The banshee enigma is slacker than the Rune or Titan. Same thing.
  • 2 0
 @dlford: is this the same reason the seat tube is 74 as opposed to the steeper 76-78 on modern full sus?
  • 1 0
 @cycleskiclimb:
Could be, I'd never considered SA as it's more easily changed by adjusting saddle rail position on the seatpost head. A quick look at my fat bike geometry ('22 Rocky Blizzard, my only hardtail) show a 74*SA with 66*HA (rigid fork). Going by your speculation maybe they just figure owners are going to slap a suspension fork on it, which isn't a bad idea. I have the seat on that bike set as far forward as possible.
  • 2 1
 @cycleskiclimb: yep. Any hardtail that has a super steep seat tube angle means that the designer doesn't get hardtail frame design.

Not to mention, unpopular opinion, but a lot of short travel bikes also don't need 76-78deg STAs since they don't sag as much on the rear suspension and tend to be used for more traversing vs straight up and down big mountains. Pivot always takes shit for "conservative geo" when really they've done a good job making the geometry appropriate for the intended terrain and use of each model in their catalog.
  • 7 0
 Made in Taiwan or China?
  • 5 0
 This is my n+1 if the bank account were only able to agree.
  • 4 0
 Just came here to say - this one looks great!

That’s all. Have a great day
  • 1 0
 Thoughts on this vs Moots Womble? Geos look similar, but would love if someone could chime in with their thoughts on how the ride would differ. Both spec'd with 140 forks. Build kits are similar enough, more interested in knowing differences in geo feel.
  • 4 0
 I think this year I will turn... 'checks calendar' titanium-hardtail-years-old.
  • 1 0
 Why does the cost jump so far from the XO to the XX build kit? Both are premium options and XX cant be THAT much more premium right? Rad bike Revel, I like how many mounting points their are on the frame! For those who have the cash, support these guys and gals - they deserve it more than the monopolies of the bike world!
  • 1 0
 This geo on the large is very similar to my last custom steel HT from Woodpecker cycle co. That bike kicked ass and I miss it dearly (got rear ended with the bike on the rack). I ran a 140mm MRP Ribbon air on it and it was perfect.
  • 4 0
 Yay more hardtails the stoke is real
  • 3 0
 At 53, my main bike is a hard tail. It’s a NS dirt jumper!
But Revel rail is awesome too
  • 3 0
 I was hoping they’d call their next bike the Rapscallion
  • 2 0
 Can someone please explain to me why Hardtail top tubes are so long compared to full suspensions?
  • 2 0
 Slack ST...
  • 1 0
 @Otago: I understand how the numbers work out on a geometry chart that I don’t understand is why they draw them up this way in the first place. I look at top tube as one of the key factors when sizing up a geometry chart because it greatly affects comfort when pedaling seated, and because of the top tubes on Hardtail bikes I find myself always looking to go down a size
  • 3 0
 Head over to the Radavist to see the janky cable routing!
  • 2 0
 Crazy coincidence: this review is here. The headline add on Pinkbike is for this bike. I wonder if these things are related.
  • 3 0
 2,3kg for a Large!! What is it made from HiTen?
  • 1 0
 It may not be a forever bike, but a modern well spec’d ti hcht frame will definitely last at least a few years down the road for sure
  • 1 0
 这款车几何做的好看,应该很结实的样子,我喜欢硬尾山地车,希望本网站能多更新硬尾山地车的相关新闻以及数据介绍。
  • 1 0
 All hardtail makers - steel/Ti/Alu/Carbon should take a good long look at a Salsa Timberjack V2 to see how cablerouting should be done.....
  • 2 0
 Photo says "me private", but I says "I want to see".
  • 2 0
 Photo fixed, thank you.
  • 3 2
 The big question is how it rides. I've found that many Ti hardtail frames once you get into the larger sizes get flexy AF
  • 3 1
 I would say not this one,based on frame weight alone. That's a heavy frame for titanium.
  • 2 0
 I concur.
  • 2 0
 Its true, my Ti Honzo rides as well now as it did when it was new in 2016
  • 1 0
 470 st on a xl is just terrible it should be way shorter. I need my 240mm dropper slammed please.
  • 1 0
 Headtube , bottom bracket and dropouts are not weak points on a ti frame , no need to have them cnc solid .
  • 2 1
 When I want a Ti Chinese frame I am going to Alibaba and saving about 2 grand
  • 1 0
 would rag in mini mullet.... I'd rag it hard
  • 6 5
 Looks like a dated Chinese E bay frame to me.
  • 1 0
 you say that like its a bad thing.........?
  • 2 0
 Drool
  • 4 4
 I'm just surprised nobody had mentioned the price yet...eeek
  • 2 2
 Their bikes are bleh, but this one looks decent.
  • 1 1
 Seems to check all the boxes. But the seat tube angle... too slack.
  • 4 0
 I’m a fan of steep STA on full suspension bikes but as an owner of 3 hardtails & a lot of experience with modern geo HTs, I have to agree with theradivist.com & other sites that on a HT a steep STA transmits too much force to your ass on climbs. The STA on this Ti-rade is about right IME.
  • 1 1
 Revel geo
  • 1 0
 Beautiful
  • 4 7
 Love it all, but not having seat tube water bottle mount is a complete NO GO!
  • 9 2
 Dropper post.
  • 5 0
 It has bosses under the top tube and they’ve posted a picture of a bottle mounted there as well.
  • 4 0
 @MisterChow: Yeah but I do wish more companies would use those raised bosses that allow the mounting of water bottles on the seatpost without effecting the dropper post clearance though.
  • 3 1
 @93EXCivic: what are you talking about? Bottle mount without affecting dropper? If they did that, long noodle dudes will be screaming here that they cannot install their 240mm dildo dropper. You got 3 bottle mounts, how many more you need?
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