Affordable Shredders From Mongoose: Teocali AM/Trailbike and All-New Boot’r Downhill Racer

Jun 27, 2014 at 18:02
by Richard Cunningham  
Boot'r Downhiller


Mongoose Teocali Boot r 2015

Mongoose totally redesigned its Boot'r DH bike with a four-bar rear suspension,. 27.5-inch wheels, and up-to-the-minute frame geometry - for $2500 USD.



Mongoose has picked up some momentum since we last heard from them. The designers there have streamlined their product range in order to stuff as much performance as possible into its most important models. The Boot’r DH bike is all new, with 27.5-inch wheels, a four-bar, Horst-Link type rear suspension instead of the previous model’s Free Drive system, which was borrowed from GT. Insiders say that the four-bar arrangement boosts the suspension performance in technical situations, where the Boot’r will be spending most of its life. The aluminum-framed DH bike sports a RockShox Domain fork and an X-Fusion Vector R coil/over shock. Rear-wheel travel is eight inches, and the frame geometry is updated to reflect what racers are currently running. The Boot’r head angle is 63 degrees.

Mongoose Teocali Boot r 2015

The new Horst-Link rear suspension drives an X-Fusion Vector shock. The Brakes are Hayes Prime Sports with 200mm rotors.



Mongoose carefully selected the parts for the Boot’r to keep its price well into the realm of affordability, without killing its performance. The cockpit is decked out in Funn components, highlighted by an oversized, 31.8-millimeter, 810-millimeter-wide Full-On handlebar. Brakes are Hayes’ latest Prime Sport models with 200-millimeter rotors. The 36-tooth SRAM Ruction crankset is backed up by a Mongoose-label chainguide and the 11 x 28 nine-speed cassette is shifted by a SRAM X-9 changer. Wheels are Sun Ringle Inferno, with Kenda Honey Badger DH tires. The MSRP for Mongoose’s entry-level DH machine is only $2500 USD and Mongoose offers it in small, medium and large sizes.


Teocali AM/Trailbike

Mongoose Teocali Expert 2015

Tight on cash? Mongoose put together a competitive, 150mm-travel trailbike for $2800 USD. The Teocal is all new for 2015, also with a Horst-Link, four-bar rear suspension. It rides well.



Trail riders searching for enthusiast-level performance from an affordable, 27.5-inch-wheel AM/trailbike might consider the 2015 Mongoose Teocali Expert. Its aluminum chassis has moderately slack, 67-degree head angle and has been redesigned with a 150-millimeter-travel, Horst-Link, four-bar rear suspension. The shock is an X-Fusion D2 RLX and up front is a 160-millimeter-stroke X-Fusion Sweep fork. The Teocali’s drivetrain is a Shimano XT/SLX combination with a three-by crankset. The cockpit is appointed by Funn, with a 750-millimeter handlebar. Brakes are Hayes Prime Comps with 180mm rotors, and the Teocali Expert’s wheels are Alex 27 Fives, mounted with Kenda Nevegal tires. The Teocali Expert lacks a dropper seatpost for price considerations, which should be OK, as its MSRP is $2800 USD.

Mongoose Teocali Expert 2015

We have always liked X-Fusion suspension for its superior high-speed performance, and the Teocali's updated rear suspension design is proven to add sensitivity to the chassis under braking and acceleration. Add slacker frame numbers and mid-sized wheels and the new Mongoose should be quite a shredder.



Mongoose


200 Comments

  • + 196
 27.5 downhill bike? You try to tell me it's a enduro-specific-downhill bike?
  • + 23
 This dude deserves a beer for that one. Good one man!

Cheers Smile
  • + 59
 No, it's not enduro-specific, that would be silly!




...It doesn't have a dropper post Razz
  • - 40
flag g-roy33 (Jun 27, 2014 at 21:26) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like a session..
  • + 39
 Sick Walmart bikes ! No but seriously thats a solid looking DH rig at a fuckin respectable price, horst link pretty good too
  • + 54
 maybe more people would try dh if they could afford to get into it, lets be honest, this is an expensive ass sport, i think this is a really good move by them.
  • - 50
flag booostin (Jun 27, 2014 at 23:13) (Below Threshold)
 looks like a session.
  • + 19
 Nice, I can afford both Mongoose Glory and Mongoose Reign at once without overspent. Nonetheless, looking forward on Chris to shred them.
  • + 13
 reminded me of a Aurum
  • + 6
 i really want to see a full review of these
  • + 6
 Try it first, before you complain Smile
  • + 4
 I think it looks like a Glory but for a hell of a lot less cash
  • + 2
 The glory uses a floating pivot this is set up more like the Norco and Kong setup. Good move mongoose I found next year's downhill rig
  • + 2
 Kona**
  • + 6
 I'm just wondering why the dh rig is cheaper than the am bike?
  • + 4
 damn chyu, made my day Big Grin
  • - 29
flag g-roy33 (Jun 28, 2014 at 9:01) (Below Threshold)
 I love how i jokingly say looks like a session and get neg propped.
  • - 14
flag gabriel-mission9 (Jun 28, 2014 at 10:27) (Below Threshold)
 eh? these look nothing like anything in giants lineup. what do you guys mean?
  • - 3
 Glory has linkage bro nice try
  • + 2
 Oh ya bud look at my glory the rear triangle DOESNT connect to the front like the mongoose does there is a pivot link hence floating pivot
  • + 1
 So why'd they switch from the free drive system?
  • + 1
 I'm guessing flex has a big part fourway linkage is stiffer
  • + 1
 The suspension is lower end on the DH rig and the Freedrive is a lot of moving parts and a PITA to work on.
  • + 78
 That's relly cool. A dh bike people can afford Right on mongoose. Bike !!!!
  • + 17
 Airborne makes several dh/fr on similar price points and their fr bike is only $1700!
  • + 16
 Everybody knocks on airborne , the pathogen in a sweet bike , they say it's a tr-450 rip off But everything is a bite off of something now The bootr is a sweet bike too
  • + 7
 I have an airborne and I love it.
  • + 0
 airborne doesnt sell or have a complete dh bike for 2600, they used to have old yakuza with other old parts but finally got rid of them all, now they have the old tr450. 2600 and this bike comes with 650bs, the geo, and no shitty avid brakes
  • - 3
 you could spray that frame over stealth matte black and it would look cool. don't know if i'd buy one used though. airborne has better graphics.
  • + 1
 airborns have plenty of issues. mongoose may be considered a walmart brand but they make solid reliable bikes
  • + 3
 all bikes are made in the same place nowadays haha
  • + 1
 I think fox forks have new competition. Price point is basically the same as the bike Razz
  • + 2
 nothing too special in the design, looks like most bikes around too but does it matteR? its affordable! great job MongoosE!
  • + 68
 An affordable dh bike article on pinkbike? Somebody pinch me I must be dreaming!
  • + 19
 people will still find something to complain about
  • + 10
 OMG! 27.5 wheels on a DH bike? how dare they.
  • + 30
 Probably a warm up/feel good article preparing everyone for some new Trek frame coming out in the next few days that you need a re-mortgage your house to buy
  • + 1
 Spec seems solid. Funn BB and HS? Selling through Walmart?
  • + 1
 It's not a Walmart bike...alot of these companies make a few different lines. Lower level lines sell at walmart, the next maybe at Dicks, then their top of the line nikes are sold online, through a rep or at a reputable shop,
  • + 48
 It really bothers me when companies print the ".com" on their products (kendatire.com). Oh, really? You have a website? That's really cool. Hey, would you hold still I'm trying to copy down this web address from your sidewalls. Does anybody remember how many w's I need at the beginning? Aw hell, I missed it. For crying out loud, "kendatire dot something." What comes after the dot?!?! NOOOOO....

Geax does it, too, or did, and for some reason it makes it more difficult for me to take them seriously. Like they don't take themselves seriously enough to trust that if people are interested in their product, they will do the exact same thing they've done any time they've wanted to know anything for the last twenty years.

Anyway, cool bikes. Does anybody know if Mongoose has a website or anything?
  • + 12
 lol this guy^
  • + 7
 Lol should be: Kenda - just google it!
  • + 2
 LOL! Never thought of that before, but yeah putting the website on there is so 2001. By now, I think we all know how to find a product if we're interested. Hell, I am pretty sure by just looking at something we are somehow having our interest recorded and an ad for Kenda will pop up on our screen the next time we check - well, anything on our electronic gadgets.
  • + 7
 I don't know if mongoose has a site because it's not printed on their bikes. I'm stuck now and have no idea what to do at this point to solve this problem.
  • + 1
 HAHAHA! I had to login just so I could upvote this! "Does anybody remember how many w's I need at the beginning?"...priceless.
  • + 28
 with the money I save on this bike I can afford those $259 shorts reviewed recently.
  • + 2
 You made my day Sir Big Grin !
  • + 20
 I'm not trying to be a dick about wheel sizes, but I prefer 26" I'm not a huge fan of all these companies going to 27.5". I'm more than happy with my What could now be considered "old school" 26" dh rig. Just my opinion.
  • + 11
 Ya I agree. "sorry I like to air off roots and rocks instead of rolling over them"
  • + 2
 especially on an entry level bike... they should definitely stick to 26 for entry level bikes!
  • + 2
 i love to air out too. i often love using things to air out. my 27.5 trek slash kills it at the resorts. i thought i was a diehard 26 fan but i was so wrong about that.
  • + 0
 Remind me what won the last world cup? Even Scottish champs last weekend?
27.5.... handing victories to 26 inch boys all over the world. Smile
  • + 5
 I understand that bikes are evolving with all sorts of new technology, but there is still quite a large audience of riders who enjoy a 26" platform. I'm just saying that companies should offer a 26" option for beginners and people like myself that dont race and don't necessarily care about speed and just want to have fun and hit little bonks and jobs on trails and have a smaller wheel size and overall slightly smaller bike to do so.
  • + 5
 You can air off shit with big wheels all day. I ride all 3 sizes and they're all fun
  • + 1
 Yeah you can air stuff with larger wheels I'm not saying you cant, but I started riding BMX and then switched to dh, so after getting used to a BMX bike even 26" wheels felt big to me at first. I'm 6'1 and I ride a size small (15" frame) kona stab because I like the small size of it
  • + 3
 Quite honestly 650b and 26" wheel/tires feel almost exactly the same, albeit with 650b smoothing out braking bumps a bit. It's just geo differences and steadily improving suspension that are making the new bikes "faster" than the old ones.

That said, as much as I don't want to say this...If you're going to buy a new bike designed for AM and more aggressive riding, might as well go with 650b unless you're getting a dj, or entry-level machine (due to easier availability and better selection at lower prices of tires). The industry has decided it's the way to go, that's where they're putting their R&D funds, and that's the size that will be getting new products. It sucks that the decision has been made FOR consumers rather than BY consumers, but no amount of griping is gonna fix that now.

Consequently, you can now nab little-used 26ers being dumped by scenester Chads with tons of money who need the "latest and greatest" thing, which means the students, younger riders, and folks with less cash coming in, can nab some pretty damn high-end stuff for pretty damn good prices. This is of course until 26" becomes a real rarity in a few years and the prices go up.
  • + 2
 Cuz if we switch from 26 to 27.5 we're no longer allowed to jump off rocks. There's a marshal at each rock going hey hey you know the rules!
  • + 4
 650b might be all the rage right now, but I'm holding out for 28.25" wheels
  • + 1
 First we saw 29ers, then 650b, pretty soon Someone will make like a 30" wheel or something, when they make a 30" dh bike, that's what I'm riding
  • + 1
 Technically we have 28.25" already, some smaller 29er labeled tires are about that (Bontrager XR 29 x 1.8s are one) as are some of the current production 650B labeled tires.
  • + 2
 Well butter my ass and call me a biscuit, the future has already arrived!
  • + 16
 I rode the old Boot'r design and it was a great starter bike to learn on and thrash. Kudos to Mongoose for offering affordable bikes that can shred with the rest of them!
  • + 17
 Affordable, capable, modern geo. Well done Mongoose.
  • + 14
 I'd ride them, especially at that price-point. Also if the frames are built well enough that they will last then they would be good bikes to upgrade as your riding progressed(and wallet allowed)
  • + 13
 X fusion gold is beautiful.
  • + 11
 Wonder what the prices are Frame Only? Most DH frames are almost as much as the whole Boot'r
  • + 12
 26inch that bitch!
  • + 4
 29 that thing dude!
  • + 3
 700c is so underated right now
  • + 9
 These seem like good bikes at a great price.

Consider this: there are frames that cost more than these bikes.

There are wheels that cost more than these bikes.
  • + 8
 Good for Mongoose, i'm a fan of Funn components. 2015 bike lineups look promising. Value is #1 in my book!
  • + 5
 I wonder if any product development meetings at any of the big manufacturers ever started with "There's some guy's on Pink Bike that want new 26in bikes at used bike prices. What can we do? Oh yeah, must be capable of winning a world cup, rampage, and crankworks. Any ideas?"
  • + 4
 Way to go Mongoose! The rest of the industry should take notice. Decent suspension design at a realistic price. I could buy 3 of these for the price of one high end Specialized.... or one of these and a dope trip to Whistler.
  • + 2
 I really like it except for the 27.5 wheels. Why can't these companies keep the 26 inch wheels in there lineup for the part of the community that just wants to go shred a normal bike. Yeah for racing the bigger wheels would be first choice but at the end of the day there's more of us out there that just want a regular old 26er. Still awesome work mongoose.
  • + 1
 aaaaaaaaargh! leogang!
  • + 3
 So if 2500 is not afordable for a complete modern downhill bike with trustable components like rock shox and truvativ go do ping pong cause os way cheaper
  • + 1
 I cant waite for these bikes to come out I'll be ordering the tecali enduro..right now I ride the boot r and love it and had a tecali when they first came out great bike and it took a beating and never broke.but mongoose needs to fix there website it always runs slow and freezes up..but super stoked on the new mongoose bijes
  • + 1
 Dorel are recasting Mongoose as a downmarket brand, which already was the case but Dorel wants to go even more downmarket. These bikes are off the shelf designs out of the ASTRO Engineering Catalog. Dorel/Mongoose does nothing other than placing large orders. The DH bike is not found in the public ASTRO catalog. That is not a surprise - things move in and out of that catalog all the time. ASTRO turns out bikes in huge volumes and is the actual manufacturer of the KHS banded bikes. ASTRO offers its customers a degree of exclusivity with its designs - Mongoose won't have pesky competitors selling the same bike in North America. That is just business, it doesn't mean Dorel has put time into designing or manufacturing these bikes. That part of Mongoose's history is over. People with engineering talent left years ago.
  • + 0
 3000 grand including tax is affordability?



just the way things are.... But the price point these bikes are at is common for nearly all manufacturers. Mongoose is doing nothing original other then not selling a higher end model. Under 2k is affordable and there are new bikes out there for that price with a similar component spec. As others have said take a look at Airborne . com for affordability
  • + 4
 It is for a DH bike.
  • + 4
 kona specialized and giant all have bikes at this price point. And have had for a while now... this bike isnt making down hill bikes suddenly attainable for anyone. 3 grand is not an affordable price point for most people. its just yet another entry level DH bike for the same price as every other one
  • + 7
 Mongoose wrote in today that the MSRP is now 2499 for the Boot'r. Better still.
  • - 2
 The Status I is the only SBC bike that is near that price, and it only has a single crown 170mm Vengeance. Not really a DH bike per se. Kona's Entourage is their only offering near that price point and again, is more of a park bike than a DH bike. And Giant doesn't have anything anywhere near that price anymore.
  • + 3
 I know you can't buy them overseas but yt has a downhill bike with the same if not better parts for under 2000$. And it's 26''
  • + 1
 Sorry I meant €, my bad
  • + 1
 Personally 2800 for the Teocali doesn't seem all that competitive considering its only has a marginal better spec than Norco, Giant, Devinci and a ton of manufacturer-direct brands. I'll give them credit for doing a Shimano build kit, but I'm not sure that makes it a value in this price range. X-Fusion stuff is a great value, but some manufacturers are putting Pike's on bikes in this price range. Looks like a $2250 bike.
  • + 0
 I liked Mongoose for their riders that pushed the limits (now as far as I know its only Chris Akkrig, but thats good enough for me :-D) and their very original looking Freedrive System, which in IMHO looked somehow better than this... With the horst-link it seems like most of the less prestigious companies tend to utilise it, but somehow i liked the diversity of the rear suspension between different brands more...
  • + 3
 2015 new bikes = use a 2014 model and add a pair of 27.5 wheels.

There u go
  • + 3
 As opposed to new color scheme and 0.5 degree adjustments here and there?
  • + 1
 I think the Boot R 'is a mix between the Giant Glory and Trek Session hahaha and the Teocali is very similar (if not equal) to the Cube Fritzz / Stereo haha very good development mongoose !
  • + 1
 whys everyone think its like a glory? i dont get it, they couldnt really be more different
  • + 1
 the Teocali looks like a Reign for crying out loud..... proud owner of a fritzz hahahaha
  • + 1
 Modern geo, modern wheels, modern suspension... and then a unicorn stem? Easy swap. Really appreciate the effort at an affordable bike. Norco is also making kick ass bikes at an affordable price. Love my b3 range.
  • + 0
 I cannot understand how anyone in the US thinks they should be able to complain about the prices of bikes.
For example my marzocchi 888's are around 800 pounds retail. In the us they are around 500 pounds so your stuff is around 40% cheaper than ours. In europe i think stuff is even more expensive than here.
Seems a bit wrong guys.

As for the bike though it seems great that a brand are doing a well geo'd bike with a wheel size that isnt going to mean the frame and fork are out dated in 2 years.
Fair play to them.
As for all the 26 4 life boys, everyone i know who has tried 650b bikes back to back with the 26 version has bought the 650b version.
maybe their not as bad you think.
  • + 2
 how many ppl do you know? cos it seems like the overwhelming majority on pb prefer 26
  • + 1
 Around a dozen atm out of my riding circle. My mates shop are also selling them far more than the 26" versions. I'm not saying their for everyone but i just think far too many people diss things without trying them.
I havent had chance to play on any 650b bikes other car park tests but when i do get a test oppertunity i'll do it with an open mind for sure Smile
  • + 1
 Everything in the states is automaticly 20% cheaper because you have a sales tax included in all the prices.
  • + 0
 So the us doesnt have the 20% tax then? Only another 20% off the price to account for then
  • + 2
 People in the market for a new bike are obviously going to look harder at 650b, there's more options than ever and the newest models are 650b. The shops will sell more because its new and current. People on 26" will unconsciously defend their wheel size because they don't want to be obsolete. Wheels roll because they are round and if you lift them up they will come off the ground.
  • + 1
 @Gabriel... Most everyone on PB who "prefer 26" have most likely never ridden a 650b anything, especially DH sled. We just fear change and don't want our bikes and parts to be obsolete... And we're pissed at marketers and manufacturers for forcing the issue. I believe Santa Cruz is the only pro DH team left on 26. If you were spec' ing a bike to sell right now, you would not build a 26er. We PB whiners apparently do not drive the market.
  • + 1
 Most everyone on pb who says "Most everyone on PB who "prefer 26" have most likely never ridden a 650b anything" has absolutely no idea if this is true or not.

I have tried all sizes from 16" commuters to 29" fatbikes and have nothing against any particular type of bicycle. I dislike the massive amount of hype and propaganda in the cycling industry promoting 27.5"/29" because although they are very capable machines in certain circumstances, eg. flowier/wider tracks, they suffer on tighter/more techy tracks. There is nothing wrong with this in theory, apart from that it will lead to more and more tracks being widened, straightened and generally made less challenging to allow for the larger wheeled bikes. The fact that 26" wheels are rapidly being dropped from nearly every manufacturers line-up apart from the one obvious exception means eventually all the tracks I like to ride will be modernized or "improved" into arguably lesser versions of their former selves. Infact it has already begun to happen and quite a few of my favorite tracks of years past are now wide, bermed motorways with all the obstacles removed apart from in designated (usually perfectly straight) sections and 30ft of braking bumps before every berm. I apologise if my whining bores you, but wide, easy tracks bore me so I guess we both lose. Bloody big-wheels eh?
  • + 1
 I agree with your take on the trails being turned into berm and jump superhighways. I don't think that's related to wheel size. I agree with you on the hype and propaganda as well. And yes, you're right, I don't know if "most people on Pinkbike who prefer 26ers" have ridden 650b - that's why I said "most likely." I think it's a safe bet, since 650b DH bikes are currently very rare, but won't be next year.
  • + 1
 Bigger wheels need more room to maneuver. They can not physically fit down a trail that a 26" would consider tight.
  • + 1
 No we know what Pacific Cycle / Dorel did with Iron Horse. Parked it up and put Mongoose stickers on the bikes (And yes I know the Sunday had a DW link). These look so much better than the old bikes. Good work Mongoose.
  • + 4
 Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh I wish I had money!
  • + 1
 Didn't they announce a completely different Boot'r to be sold directly from mongoose a few months back, that never seemed to become available?

plus these bikes look hideous.
  • + 1
 The Specialized Status starts at $2,600... what's the big deal with an off-brand offering something something more expensive?
  • + 2
 now they just need romo back!!!!!! mongoose, if u read this.... GET HIM BACK !!! hes the man
  • + 1
 romo hasn't been on a bike in over a year. he's a shitty DJ for a few local restaurants and couldn't care less about bikes anymore.
  • + 1
 he would do different if he would have a contract again ......
  • + 2
 IMO I would rather just go used... Nothing against mongoose but you can get better specd for less than that (used)
  • + 6
 if a used xtr derailleur has developed some play or has been hit with a rock and then straightened back out then a new deore would probably work better - a new budget chain will work better than a stretched hollowpin chain - a new kenda will grip better than a bald schalbe - also when buying used you may have to change the fork oil and bushings or bake pads and cables ect. adding to the cost of your used high end bike sure there are good deals to be found buying used but when you get a new bike you know that you wont have to spend anything extra and that everything works the way its supposed to
  • + 1
 Very good points you make, if you do find a good deal with new components on it then it would be worth it to go used
  • + 2
 Clean lookin' rig that top one, if you take off the messy fuckin' graphics.
  • + 1
 About time they got rid of that mad suspension system they were using before. My mate had a black diamond and he was tightening the bolts up every run. These look way better.
  • + 3
 Got to say looks pretty good
  • + 1
 The move to a four bar suspension design is savvy, but I thought the Mongoose design was unique and interesting; lost some suspension diversity here.
  • + 1
 FSR is a better system and cheaper to build a pricepoint frame with
  • + 1
 I wonder what the weight is? The old Teocali was super heavy, I'm no weight wiener but their is a point where I'm just not climbing that shit...
  • + 2
 awesome price points and the parts ain't too shabby. this could be my next bike.
  • + 2
 Great park rental rigs. It's refreshing to see a bike with a properly adjusted price tag.
  • + 2
 Can I buy these at my local Wal Mart???
  • + 2
 With layaway options?
  • + 1
 i like how pink bike lists the prices in US dollars. and then these bikes aren't sold in the US.
  • + 2
 Change out the Hayes and you're looking at a decent bike for little money
  • + 1
 Thank god they dumped that old wanna-be I-Drive system......GT please follow suit!!
  • + 8
 Well actually the new GTs use the Mongoose Freedrive variation of the I-drive design... so since GT is seen as the flagship brand in the Dorel company, they reverted the Mongoose line back to horst-link bikes, ironic as Mongoose Amplifiers (license made versions of the Amp B-2) were one of the first GOOD full suspension designs we could get 21 years ago.
  • - 7
flag bikebike69 (Jun 27, 2014 at 18:32) (Below Threshold)
 If GT would build the Fury DH with a traditional single pivot I'd buy one tomorrow. Bikes are great quality and great customer service but as long as they hang to that drive design they will always be loosing part of the target market.
  • + 7
 What's the issue with the I-Drive system? It genuinely does its job and doesn't seem to ruin anyone's fun
  • + 7
 Nothing, its simply a high single-pivot with a floating BB linkage to improve pedaling and keep the shock mounted low which acts to drop the center of gravity for the bike. But some folks refuse to wrap their head around the mechanics of how it works so....

"FIRE BAD" Ryagagarghhhhh....
  • + 3
 I agree. I had a Sanction and hated the way the floating bottom bracket felt.
  • + 1
 ^I ride a Nugget and don't even notice. I'd ride an FSR Nugget if they make one too.
  • + 2
 Dude I ride a nugget too and I loooooove the way it rides aswell...... And I too would buy and FSR version of it too.... Too bad it'd look exactly like a ticket.... Oh wait that isn't bad at all!
  • + 0
 deeeight, Cannondale is Dorel's flagship brand - not GT.
  • - 2
 Really? And the facts for that are what? They sure don't spend any money improving Cannondale's lineup or distribution or pricing.
  • + 0
 Yup, really deeeight. CFR is most definitely Dorel's highest funded mtb team, and Peter Sagan makes more $$ than all the Athertons combined.

Cannondale's lineup completely kills it right now. They make arguably the best Enduro and best Road bikes available today. Kinda clueless, eh? But you're right, they don't have a bike that would be an appropriate rental fleet bike for WBP, if that means a lot to you...
  • + 0
 Right because nobody ever talks out their arse on the internet so we should take the word of a nobody with less than six months time here that he/she KNOWS what Peter Sagan's salary is, and likes to use the words "kills it" in their comments.
  • + 2
 I get it, Cannondale doesn't make a bike with enough travel for Ottawa. You don't have to have joined PB in 1999 to know that. Talking out of your arse is exactly what will lead you to moronic comments like saying GT is Dorel's flagship brand. What a joke...
  • + 0
 You clearly know even less about geography than you claim to know about the bike industry. But keep trolling, I'm sure someone here will listen to you. I'm done wasting my time though.
  • + 3
 My bad. I thought you lived in Ottawa because your profile says you live in Ottawa. Sorry I called you out on some facts about Dorel's priorities. I know how people who have spent decades on internet forums tend to hate that stuff...
  • + 1
 The I Drive system allows for a rearward axle path, without the undesired chain growth usually associated with rearward axle paths.
  • + 4
 Please keep arguing deeeight, it's entertaining me.
  • + 1
 So you're telling me it would be a good time to drop a racer resume to the Goose?
  • + 1
 Also, the review. "It rides well."

Um. Thanks.


Sounds like a bunch of hype to me.
  • + 2
 Affordable?? $2800?? There are three Giant Trance models under $2400.....
  • + 1
 I'm sorry, but it's pretty pathetic that an "affordable" all mountain bike is $2800
  • + 15
 Well for a G-note I'll make u a bike outta paper-mache and beer cans, she's a little noodly but you'll get used to her!
  • + 1
 How about you make me an affordable, decent bike for 1500? I have 3 friends that are "bike curious" but don't want to drop 3k on a bike.
  • + 13
 For the "bike curious" there is something called craigslist and pinkbike buy&sell section. That's where I started out, and still am today actually. Grab a bike for 1500 or even less and go ride.
  • + 1
 It also sucks that dirtbikes are cheaper than mountain bikes. Such is life. I have a buddy who shreds northstar on a hardtail. You don't *have* to spend that money. My first bike was a kona Dawgma, i talked the shop down to $1000.
  • + 4
 Build a Ragley, I love my Piglet. Cost me $1000 for the frame and parts. That's not including my fork, though; just used the Recon off my old Jamis, which preforms just fine! It's a seriously fun budget bike, couldn't be happier
  • + 1
 Yep. Why can't a new bike cost less than 1500 though? Some people don't want a used bike. It's a pretty tough sale selling someone on a 3k bike when they have no frame of reference or idea between a 2k bike and a 6k bike
  • + 1
 ^http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/listnew/?category=2
  • - 2
 What kind of newbs wait for an MSRP or vendors price to cater to what they want when the internet can get you anything you need at the price you can afford. Where have you been on this planet lately .... FYI i bought my world cup flatline for 2600 brand new off ebay its not hard.. my previous bike also a flatline was bought right off here in the used section for 850 just needed to know if a full on dh rig was what i wanted , if your not sure, YOU DONT NEED A NEW BIKE TO FIND OUT you need one once you know what you want....
  • + 6
 Mongoose said today that the price is now $2499
  • + 2
 Ragley! I built up a Big Wig a few months ago, fun fun.
  • + 2
 Got a barely used 2010 spesh demo I back in 2012 for 1900$ on pinkbike's buy/sell. I don't have the industry insider deals everyone and their brother seem to have and I kind of feel it's retarded to pay MSRP for a bike that will assuredly tumble down rock faces sooner or later anyway.

It's possible to keep it "low budget" buying used and honestly I'm not sure I would like to pay 1500$ for a brand new DH bike as it would probably weight 50 pounds with shit components. I'm the first to complain when stuff comes out at insane prices but let's be honest here, with all the tech that goes into the bikes, it's never going to be dirt cheap. If 2000$ is too expensive for you, you might want to look into a local ultimate frisbee league as MTB will probably never ever be that cheap.
  • + 1
 2014 Kona Precept $1599. Go.
  • + 2
 nicest product form mongoose?
  • + 1
 please remove all mentions of the word "oversized" to be taken seriously
  • - 3
 Hey Cunningham, is there a place to put my pump, spare tube, extra tire, granola bars, 3 gallons of water, multi tool, and work stand on the Boot'r? I mean I'd hate to put fashion before practicality on my dh bike. wouldn't want to be a parasite...
  • + 0
 i wish X-fusion would've picked another coating color it still can be confused with a fox
  • + 1
 somehow i agree with you. almost everyone has a gold labeled one.
  • + 1
 Free Drive is not adopted ?
  • + 1
 prefer to the previous version of teocali
  • + 0
 THAAAANNNNKK YOOOOOUUU mongoose is sick im going to walmart and picking one up right now
  • + 1
 I´ve got teocali 2010, nothing to complain, great bike, m components
  • + 1
 What does it cost in english pounds?
  • + 1
 Right on Mongoose, good to see some decent bikes within budgets.
  • + 1
 Finally! just what I need!
  • + 1
 ...and Mongoose Nugget was really a sweet bike i think...
  • + 1
 Boot'r Downhiller reminds me a Rockrider FR10
  • + 0
 Are these only available through the Mongoose website ... OR will we be able to purchase these at Walmart too?
  • + 1
 Mongoose and GT went to the same paint shop
  • + 1
 if only chris akrigg starts dh!!
  • + 1
 Interesting they have gone with Hayes brakes on those two models at least.
  • + 0
 Is it just me or does the dh look like a giant glory!!!!!!!
  • + 2
 no it isnt just you, but i really dont see any similarity. best i can come up with is it has some blue on it?
  • + 1
 Seems to me that any DH bike with a vertically mounted shock is claimed to look like a Session or Glory.
  • + 0
 They don't seem to be selling the horst link bikes in the US.
  • + 5
 The patent on the Horst-Link configuration ran out, so many frame designs are returning to it,
  • + 2
 To be fair though since mongoose, schwinn, cannondale, and gt (among others) are all owned by dorel, its not like they have to pay to license patents for i-drive variations to each other.
  • + 2
 Like the liteville, which is supposed to be fun too. Wink
  • + 0
 Looks like KHS Lucky 7 FR 2011 and United Patrol FRP 2010..
  • + 1
 same thoughts
  • + 1
 Not fussed at all...
  • + 0
 I'm sorry, but the Boot'r is still ugly.
  • + 1
 Wow, these look awesome!
  • + 1
 I like the looks of them
  • + 1
 not bad
  • + 0
 Looks just like a kona
  • + 1
 Yeah, probably made in the same factory too, but without the "Kona" name it's cheaper.
Most of the bikes I see reviewed on PB cost more than my car did! Good to see something more affordable for Joe Public.
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