BMC Speedfox 02 Trailcrew - Review

May 16, 2016 at 7:52
by Richard Cunningham  



BMC's sturdy, 150-millimeter-travel Trailcrew stands alone in the Speedfox range, which traditionally has been a paddock for the Swiss brand's cross-country livery. The Trailcrew has smaller wheels and much more suspension travel, more aggressive geometry and an enduro-proven fork and shock, and it is shod with some of the most aggessive tires that have ever graced a BMC. Sporting a long front-center and a visibly slack head tube angle, the Trailcrew begs to be labeled with the "E" word, but BMC clearly positions it in their trail bike range, where it stands out like that tall redhead with a pageboy cut, a cropped denim jacket and a solitary tattoo, who orders "just coffee," and waits for it, arrow straight, oblivious to the resident drones stooping into the glow of i-phones and tablets. You know you are looking at the real deal - but you are left to wonder what that actually means.


Speedfox 02 Trailcrew

BMC's Speedfox 02 is the alpha of the two-model Trailcrew lineup, which share the same geometry, 150-millimeter suspension travel, 27.5-inch wheels, and aluminum "APS" dual-link, four-bar rear suspension. The Speedfox 02, however, gets a carbon fiber front section, while its more affordable sister, the Speedfox 03 Trailcrew, has a welded-aluminum front end. The Speedfox 03 Trailcrew's MSRP is around $3800, USD and is centered around a Shimano two-by XT/SLX drivetrain, while our test bike, the $5900 Speedfox 02 Trailcrew sports a SRAM XO1 one-by drivetrain, including carbon cranks. BMC doesn't skimp on the Speedfox 02's sizing either, with X-small, small, medium, large and X-large options. But, as far as colors go, you better like blue.

Details:
• Purpose: trail / all-mountain
• Construction: carbon front section, butted-aluminum swingarm, Boost 148mm hub spacing, dual-link four-bar rear suspension, 150mm travel.
• Wheel size: 27.5
• Shock: Cane Creek DB Inline
• Fork: RockShox Pike RC Solo Air, 150mm
• Drivetrain: SRAM XO1 eleven speed
• Brakes: Shimano XT Ice Tech 180mm rear, 203mm front rotors
• Extras: internal cable routing, removable ISCG guide mounts, carbon bash guard
• Dropper post: RockShox Reverb Stealth, 125mm
• Weight: 28.1 pounds/12.78 kg (size medium)
• MSRP: $5899 USD
• Contact: BMC
BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016
BMC's rear suspension is called "Advanced Pivot System"

Frame design: The Trailcrew's chassis adheres to BMC's simple-is-best design philosophy, with a dramatically sloping top tube to enhance standover clearance and a roomy front triangle with ample space for a large water bottle, made possible by its rocker-driven, vertically mounted shock. The damper is the multi-adjustable Cane Creek DB Inline, and BMC says that its "Advanced Pivot System" suspension kinematics drive the damper at a lower leverage rate than most designs do, which reportedly adds a measure of sensitivity and tuneability to the system.

Further scrutiny reveals a Boost 148-millimeter rear end with generous room for 2.4-inch tires, internally-routed cables and hoses, a removable ISCG 05 chainguide mount, and a BB92 bottom bracket. The 12-millimeter rear axle is a Fox/Shimano lever-actuated item, and the dropper seatpost routing is also internal. Screw-down molded-plastic plates at each entry point clamp onto the housings and hoses to maintain your chosen free lengths, and to help keep the cockpit looking sharp.

BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016
Black sections of the front triangle are natural carbon. A RockShox Reverb seatpost is standard.

BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016
No seatstay bridge means massive tire clearance.
BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016
ISCG 05 chainguide tabs and internal cable routing.

Suspension: Up front, BMC chose a 150-millimeter-stroke RockShox Pike RC Solo Air fork, which should play well with the air-sprung Cane Creek DB Inline shock, as both are firm in the mid-stroke. BMC says that it worked with Cane Creek to get a suspension tune that would further enhance the Speedfox 02's firm pedaling feel without sacrificing the chassis' suppleness and traction. That may be a moot point, though, because the DB Inline's range of high and low-speed damping adjustments can be tuned to suit almost every rider's taste - good or bad. Cane Creek owners further benefit from the shock maker's excellent on-line base-tune database and tutorials, so errant knob-twisters can always find their way back home.


Geometry

"Balanced" best describes the Trailcrew's numbers. It deftly spans the growing chasm between the ever-lengthening British-inspired enduro racing sled, and the livelier, more versatile mid-travel trail bike - and it accomplishes this with decidedly modern numbers.

The 74-degree seat tube angle is steep enough to keep the rider's weight forward when seated and climbing steep pitches. Its 66.5-degree head angle is just slack enough to satisfy technical descenders, and the office is roomy enough so that the handlebar is always comfortably within reach, whether the bike is pointed steeply up or down. Finally, the bottom bracket is sufficiently low to hold a tight apex in the turns, while managing to be tall enough to minimize obnoxious pedal collisions.
BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016

Top tubes range between 55.5 and 65.6 centimeters (21.9 and 25.8 inches) and there are five frame size options. The frame's generous standover clearance assures that riders can pick and choose between the two closest matching frame sizes in order to obtain their optimum top tube lengths. BMC's Boost-width, 428 millimeter chainstays are on the short side of the spectrum, but there is no shortage of tire clearance, even with its meaty 2.4-inch Onza Ibex rubber. On that subject; beyond lengthening the front-centers, BMC does not make proportionate adjustments to the Trailcrew's geometry between sizes - so tall riders may experience a light front end when climbing seated, while short riders may experience some rear-wheel slipping when climbing out of the saddle.

BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016


Key Components

BMC did a good job choosing a hassle-free component pick for the Speedfox 02 Trailcrew. You can't go wrong with a SRAM XO1 drivetrain, or a RockShox Pike fork. The dropper post is a 125mm RockShox Reverb Stealth, and its wheelset is a DT Swiss E1700 Spline 2. Some riders may wish for a wider option than its 750-millimeter BMC carbon handlebar, but its 45-millimeter BMC aluminum stem is on point. Brakes are Shimano XT with ICE tech rotors - 180 millimeter-rear and a DH-size, 203-millimeter front. BMC chose 2.4-inch Onza Ibex tires for the Trailcrew, which look positively wicked, even when mounted to the relatively narrow, 25-millimeter-ID E1700 rims. It's a good spec' and the Cane Creek DB Inline shock is like extra credit. On paper, there is nothing on the Trailcrew that an accomplished rider would need to upgrade.

Specifications
Release Date 2016
Price $5899
Travel 150mm
Rear Shock Cane Creek DB Inline
Fork RockShox Pike RC Solo Air 150mm
Headset Tapered, flush-mount cups
Cassette SRAM XG-1175, 10-42T
Crankarms SRAM XO1 carbon 34t with carbon guide
Chainguide removable ISCG 05 mounts
Bottom Bracket SRAM press fit
Pedals NA
Rear Derailleur SRAM XO1
Chain KMC X-11L EPTtapered flush
Front Derailleur NA
Shifter Pods SRAM XO1
Handlebar BMC carbon, 750mm
Stem BMC 45mm
Grips BMC locking
Brakes Shimano XT, Ice Tech, 180mm (R), 203mm (F) rotors
Wheelset DT Swiss E1700 Spline 2
Hubs DT Swiss E1700 Spline 2
Spokes DT Swiss Competition
Rim DT Swiss E1700 Spline 2
Tires Onza: Ibex FRC 120 (F, FRC 60 (R), 2.4
Seat Fizik Nisene XS
Seatpost Rockshox Reverb stealth 125mm
BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016




RC: The Trailcrew's geometry seems to be just long enough in the top tube and just slack enough up front to be counted as fashion forward, but not so much that it has lost its sensibilities as a good all-around trail bike. Was that intentional?

Thomas: Yes, it is intentional – if you pick through our geo and our “big wheel concept” it’s something we’ve been doing for about five years now. Ever since we moved into 29ers, we’ve been going long reach, short stem with a slack head and long-ish front center. It’s clearly not stretching it like some of the more extreme setups available, but it’s still enough to be unique. So, when we did the Trailcrew bikes, we knew a little slacker and longer would be that much more fun, which was a big priority in terms of how we wanted the bike to ride.

RC: Why go with a welded-aluminum rear suspension?

Thomas: The “02” version is carbon front, alloy rear – the “03” version is alloy/alloy – so we didn’t do a full carbon bike as would normally do with an “01” model. We didn’t really see this rider looking for full carbon. Obviously, the alloy rear end saves a ton of money and the cost benefit of carbon for this bike just didn’t really make a lot of sense.

RC: Would you consider the Trailcrew to be in the same genre as an enduro racing bike?

Thomas: I suppose this is where things can get pretty blurry – semantics. In general, we didn’t design the bike for good pedaling, which is a bit different for us. The goal was to have a really plush suspension, which obviously opposes pedaling to some extent. So, by prioritizing the deep feeling suspension, it maybe doesn’t deliver the pedaling characteristics that most dedicated enduro riders are looking for. But it could be ideal, if the course is right…

RC: The rear suspension seems to have a lot of support. What do the leverage curves look like?

Thomas: Well, hopefully it feels like it’s supportive early on but then feels nice and plush as you make your way through the travel. In general, it’s our least supportive platform of all of our full-suspension bikes, which are typically very pedal-oriented. We worked with Cane Creek quite a bit to match the shock tune to the kinematics, and then were able to work with Fox to get a nice factory setup for their shock as well.

RC: What inspired the bike's wide-ranging component spec? Shimano XT brakes with a 203mm front rotor, Onza Ibex tires, Cane Creek DB Inline shock and a SRAM XO1 drivetrain...

Thomas: Our Product Manager, Antoine Lyard, really took these riders and evaluated every opportunity to create what he thought they would really want. There was no push to do full groups or anything like that – it was really an exercise in creating the bike he thought riders would build themselves.




bigquotes The ease with which the Trailcrew can be maneuvered buys time to scope out alternate lines.

Aside from its familiar BMC profile, the Speedfox 2 Trailcrew feels like a different species. Previously, BMC trail bikes were strong on their precise steering and quick response at the crankset, but when pressed hard, they didn't leave much handling in the bank to cover a mistake. The new Trailcrew feels low-slung, planted to the trail surface, sure in the steering department and very confident on the downs, with a measure of handling in reserve for those moments when the trail turns rowdier than anticipated. BMC claims that the Trailcrew's handling enhancements come at the expense of some pedaling efficiency, but compared to other 150-millimeter-travel bikes, I would rate its climbing and acceleration among the best in class.

Setup: BMC makes adjusting the rear suspension's sag a no-brainer, with a printed indicator on the rocker link that lines up with a pip on the seatstay when the Cane Creek DB Inline shock's air-spring is correctly pressurized. Damping forces seem to have an enhanced effect upon the rear suspension, so take the time to get it right. I started with Cane Creek's base tune for the 2016 Trailcrew, which put me within a few clicks of perfection for dry conditions and plentiful rocks. I set the fork at 20-percent sag and a bit stiffer than the rear suspension to keep the front end up on the steeps.
BMC Speedfox sag indicator
BMC's sag indicator is easier to use than an O-ring.

Climbing and acceleration: Cane Creek's Double Barrel Inline shock's "Climb Switch" firms up both the rebound and compression circuits, which can make some suspension systems feel dull under power, but it plays well with the BMC's kinematics. Judged within the context of the better-performing 150-millimeter-travel bikes, the Trailcrew feels firm at the pedals and responsive under power - without activating the Climb Switch. That said, the Trailcrew's rear suspension brightens up while climbing with the pedaling aid switched on, so I used it often. BMC's vertical shock placement keeps the gold-anodized lever within easy reach, and if you do manage to miss it, Cane Creek leaves enough damping action in the shock to keep you out of trouble on the downs.

BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016

bigquotes The BMC's balance, easy handling, and centralized pedaling position work in concert to reduce the workload. That's where the efficiency comes from.

Pedaling firmness and suspension kinematics play key roles, but the Trailcrew's geometry is the defining element when it comes to climbing. Its 74-degree seat tube angle places its rider over the cranks, which keeps the legs feeling fresh while powering up steep pitches. The more forward body position puts a little more pressure on the front tire for control, while the BMC's short, 16.8-inch chainstays ensure that the rear tire is biting into the soil. I topped at least three technical climbs aboard the Trailcrew that had given me trouble this year - a feat that I attribute to the BMC's natural feeling fore/aft weight balance.

Before I give the impression that BMC's Trailcrew is the best pedaling and accelerating trail bike ever - it's not. I've ridden dw-link designs from Pivot and Ibis that outperform it in the pedaling department, and shod with its super grippy Onza Ibex tires, it feels pretty draggy on paved surfaces. Give it some sketchy dirt and a rolling, technical stretch of trail, however, and the BMC's balance, easy handling, and centralized pedaling position work in concert to reduce the workload. That's where the efficiency comes from. It can get up to speed quickly and maintain momentum in adverse situations.

BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016

bigquotes I liked the head angle. At 66.5 degrees, the bike holds a steady line with little effort, and I can still flick the handlebar to move the front wheel around a rock or to make a quick correction.

Cornering and steering: The Speedfox Trailcrew is shod with 2.4-inch Onza Ibex tires, which approached the grip and predictability of Schwalbe Magic Marys on my sometimes treacherous decomposed granite and clay home soil, . Armed with large-volume, grippy rubber and suspension that provides a stable ride height, the Trailcrew corners with conviction. I felt confident on the bike from the outset. The front tire feels glued to the ground, the steering is light and sure, and when push comes to shove, the tail end of the BMC will drift out a little and scrub off some speed.

The crankset feels low and that helps keep the tires planted in the turns, and I liked the head angle. At 66.5 degrees, the bike holds a steady line with little effort, and I can still flick the handlebar to move the front wheel around a rock or to make a quick correction. The steering is not exceptionally nimble feeling, but it is amply responsive and the tire's contact patch always feels connected to the handlebar.

BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016

bigquotes 'Playful' is overused in the context of trail bike reviews, but it justly applies to the Trailcrew.

Technical and descending: Downhill and at speed, the Trailcrew feels more composed than its moderate steering angles and suspension travel suggests it should. I could lift either wheel in a pinch using minimal body English, and there is just enough firmness in the mid-stroke of the fork and shock to snap the bike into the air to clear drops, roots, and rock gardens. The ease with which the Trailcrew can be maneuvered buys time to scope out alternate lines or to straight-line technical sections that, otherwise, may have looked impossible in the heat of the moment. "Playful" is overused in the context of bike reviews, but it justly applies to the Trailcrew.

Accomplished descenders will find it easy to push the Speedfox Trailcrew to the edge of the downhill envelope where enduro racing machines like Yeti's SB6c would be the more appropriate choice. The magic of the Trailcrew, however, is to maintain the versatility of a trail bike, but with its updated geometry, also be capable of descending the big boy lines - albeit, at a lower volume. In that respect, BMC nailed it.


Component report

Onza Ibex tires: Yes, they are shameless copies of the Maxxis High Roller 2, but Onza's version is grippier, it has a smoother transition to the edging blocks, and it has more cornering and climbing traction. Great choice.

34-tooth chainring: Some riders can push a 34-tooth chainring up a long, steep climb, but most can't. So, let the few buy the 34 and spec a smaller, easier climbing gear on production bikes for the many.

203-millimeter front brake rotor: Stronger braking is less important on a trail bike than drag-free braking. I bent the Shimano 203-millimeter rotor a number of times during testing from simple rock strikes. It has occurred with other brands as well. 180s please.

Longer Dropper posts: The Speedfox's seat tube angle is pegged at 74 degrees. As seat angles become steeper, the saddle position begins to intersect the rider's standing height. As a result, longer-stroke droppers become necessary to get the saddle out of the way. The BMC's 125-millimeter-stroke dropper should be upgraded to the 150-millimeter version.
BMC Speedfox 2 Trailcrew 2016



Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotes So, after a positive review of BMC's 150-millimeter Trailcrew, I am left staring at this beautiful, capable and very confident trail bike, wondering how it came to be and why I am so attracted to it. My first thought is that the Trailcrew sprung from the minds of frustrated employees; hardcore riders who were hungry for the uber-capable trail bike that BMC never got around to producing, so they made one for themselves. Some of the most iconic trail bikes were conceived in exactly that manner: the Santa Cruz Tallboy, the Ibis Mojo HD, the Intense Tracer 275c and the Specialized Enduro 29, to name a few. What else can explain why the Speedfox 2 Trailcrew is unlike anything that BMC has in its range? I never pictured myself on a BMC, but I really like this one. - RC



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140 Comments

  • + 128
 "I bent the Shimano 203-millimeter rotor a number of times during testing from simple rock strikes. It has occurred with other brands as well. 180s please"

take better lines then, never hit a 203mm rotor before.


also no note on the fact that SRAM only warranty the pike for 200mm discs.
  • + 88
 Respect your elders bro
  • + 12
 maybe that pike is a boosted pike, so would be 10mm wider than usual? sounds like not much, but after a lifetime of judging that space, maybe it makes a difference? that said, don't think I've ever smashed or clipped a front rotor, outside of crashes...
  • + 4
 That comment from RC raised my eyebrows as well. The question is whether a 203mm has a real advantage over a 180mm? Or are we just trying to be downdurobros? I just bought a new fork and put a 180mm (from 203) because I didn't have the right adapter. After 1 run I can't tell the difference but time will tell.

I also remember an EWS race last year where a lot of the pros put 180's on the front.
  • + 6
 I get the sense he's just talking about the rocks that get flicked up when you catch one on the edge - I've certainly heard the ping sound that makes and it's not usually about line selection, unless you're going slow enough to weave around rocks smaller than tennis balls.
  • + 1
 @gtill9000: but would 20mm make any difference in that situation?
  • - 5
flag giant-35 (May 16, 2016 at 16:57) (Below Threshold)
 if you have that issue you should make a gear system that allows the rotor to be in the wheel.
  • + 6
 This seems odd to me too. So heavier/taller riders should run smaller rotors for clearance sake? Why not run 140s? Or drum brakes! That's even more clearance! RC should be more mindful of where he sets the bike down.
  • + 11
 @powderturns: I recently went to a 10mm wider bar and started clipping trees on trails I've ridden forever, so who knows...
  • + 3
 @mberrevoets: its only 11.5mm difference
  • + 6
 The disc rotor size comment is the weirdest thing I have ever read in a bike review. I went from 180/160 to 203/180. There is a very noticeable difference in brake power and I've never bent a rotor despite 45km/h weekly baby head boulder runs. Disregard that one...
  • + 1
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  • + 9
 I literally almost screamed at the monitor when he said it. I set up basically every bike with a bigger disc in the front, here a brand actually pays attention & doesn't skimp, & he castigates them for it. 200 up front all day BMC, don't listen to RC.
  • + 4
 Yup, as ridiculous as it sounds, I too have pinged my 203mm rotor while riding gnar. Switched to 180 not because I banged it, but because the 203 was just too strong and too hard to modulate for a smaller/lighter rider.
Make the choice best for you.
  • + 1
 @mberrevoets: True - probably not. I guess the bigger the target and maybe it bends easier but yeah fair point.
  • + 0
 I know I'm saying this over a year later and no one will probably see it, but....People! RC isn't saying that he wouldn't have any rocks hit the slightly smaller rotors if they were downsized a whopping 11.5mm of radius from 203 to 180 (and yes, he means rocks skipping up in the air and hitting the rotors; NOT that he's riding so close to foot-high rocks that they are basically scraping his spokes and then smashing into the rotors...). He's saying that smaller rotors:
A) won't bend as easily from an identical rock strike (same physics as bending a rod of metal of a given length vs bending a shorter rod of metal of the identical diameter -- it requires more force for same amount of deflection to occur in the shorter rod), and,
B) IF, by chance, they WOULD bend by the same angular amount (which, again, would require more force), they still won't drag against the brake pads as hard, because the lateral amount of deflection at the braking surface would be less.
  • + 57
 "where it stands out like that tall redhead with a pageboy cut, a cropped denim jacket and a solitary tattoo, who orders "just coffee," and waits for it, arrow straight, oblivious to the resident drones stooping into the glow of iPhones and tablets. You know you are looking at the real deal - but you are left to wonder what that actually means."

What does it actually mean???
Looks like we did a quick detour into RC's subconscious...

Now I know he likes red heads and onza Ibex tires.
  • + 9
 This pisses me off when they just waffle a load of crap that's supposed to a be a funny comparison.
  • + 50
 I feel like, "I never pictured myself on a BMC" is the definition of the pinkbike reader
  • + 1
 Right? Who would ride a "Bicycle Manufacturing Company" bike, featuring "Advanced Pivot Suspension" and hang out in the land of puns??
  • + 38
 It's "internal width" not "internal diameter". And since when are 25mm internal width rims considered narrow?
  • + 17
 Since they started pushing plus-sizes.
  • + 9
 True, you are correct panaphonic, but the ID/OD reference is universally understood, as either "inside diameter" or "inside dimension," where IW and OW are rarely seen and thus, confusing.
  • + 5
 @RichardCunningham: Oh yeah I guess I missed that it could be inside dimension.
  • - 2
 @panaphonic: he said "thus" hahaha
  • + 20
 "Onza Ibex tires: Yes, they are shameless copies of the Maxxis High Roller 2, but Onza's version is grippier, it has a smoother ..." .The Ibex are in the market much longer than the HRII's. the shame is on CST (that owns Maxxis and manufacture for allot of brands) as they rip off allot of nice ideas/designs of the smaller brands they produce .even the EXO sidewall came way after Onza's FRC sidewall and its pretty much identical.
  • + 3
 I am running Ibex 2.4s on my 29er. Bang for buck they're a good tyre and reasonably light too.
  • + 2
 @fartymarty: I think I'd rather that than MBUK esqe copy paste reviews that are the same every year with the components changed around.
  • + 4
 CST and Onza have a deal on development, they didn't rip them off. Maxxis new DD sidewall is the Onza EDC. Onza's new 40a compound is a tweaked version of the Maxxis SR rubber from way back. I'm sure we'll see that back in the Maxxis line next year.
  • + 1
 @joedaho: "cons: could do with a wider bar and shorter stem"
  • + 16
 Why can't we get a critical review from Pinkbike? This bike may be great but I refuse to believe that every bike they review is pretty much faultless, is it only me getting this impression?

I love the Dirt reviews where we get real critical thinking on the product and not something that seems to have been signed off by the manufacturer...
  • + 6
 If you've been riding bikes since the '90s, in perspective, pretty much all current bikes ARE flawless. There aren't really any "man I completely wasted my money on a POS" bikes on the market anymore, all the brands that made them are either out of business or making good bikes.

Heck, even Canondale is making basically normal bikes, & they don't seem to grenade nearly as often, either.
  • + 1
 @groghunter: Exactly...there are so many fewer turds out there. Without getting all "back in the day..." old head crap, the vast majority of bike are rideable. Except Ellsworth.

The Jamis Defcon got a fairly negative review on PB.
  • + 0
 @ReformedRoadie: I did forget about Ellsworth. Only bike I've ever ridden where you couldn't turn the handlebars without hitting your forward foot. terrible.

Heck, even Foes is looking good, & they were way off the back on design just a year or two ago.
  • + 1
 @ReformedRoadie: Jamis has some of the best names for their bikes: Defcon, Dakar, Dragon, Komodo, Zenith... They also have great specs and a great website for information.

But the bikes, oh the bikes...
  • + 3
 Honestly I think bikes are becoming so refined. You aren't going to see many bikes with glaring flaws anymore. Geometry is very similar across all brands and kinematics are now done very well by every decent company.
  • + 1
 I think you guys are right and that the baseline has been lifted and that there is possibly less of a 'spread' but there are still some good and bad bikes (even if a bad bike isn't that bad anymore). Maybe its more the language used in the PB reviews, everything seems to be 'really good', I'd like to hear more critical or complementary language.
  • + 19
 This bike rips.. it surprised the hell out of me as well. I am very satisfied with mine so far. Nice work BMC!
  • + 12
 I'm curious why more trail bikes don't have larger rotors. Even Bronsons and Stumpys run 180s with meager 160s in the rear.... I like BMCs take on this.
  • + 4
 Canyon Spectral - 140mm travel and 200/180 rotors. It seems right
  • + 9
 That doesn't look like a reverb to me...
  • + 3
 90% sure that's the new Crankbrothers Highline. There were photographs of RC with this bike in the First Ride article; he even mentions it by name. Full review coming soon, I suppose.

www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-crankbrothers-highline-dropper-seatpost.html
  • + 3
 @Bluefire: You are correct. It's the new Crank Brothers Highline. You can tell by the lever and the marking's down the front of the post. I rode one this weekend and it was identical.
  • + 5
 I've been doing a long-term review on the Highline, so its been on the BMC while I was testing it.
  • + 1
 @vaughnm: Well, then, in lieu of the official Pinkbike review, what did you think of it? I'm in the market for a new dropper.
  • + 2
 @RichardCunningham: Great bike great review. Looking forward to the more potent Trailfox review. Preferably the TF03 version that is more pocket friendly.
  • + 2
 @AlexS1: I have the 03, its an epic bit of kit for the money. So confidence inspiring. Just get rid of the stock fizik seat.....
  • + 1
 @Geeen: So stoked to hear that you've got one. Have been eying one for a while.
  • + 9
 Looks like my dad on a bike.
  • + 81
 dad's are allowed to shred
  • - 44
flag RedBurn (May 16, 2016 at 12:24) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like my grand father on a bike
  • + 67
 grand fathers are allowed to shred too
  • + 27
 @RedBurn: STFU. RC probably shreds harder than you.
  • + 4
 cheers guys, that was a joke, sorry if you didn't like it Smile
  • + 55
 I always anticipate the jokes when I see an RC article come up. I kind of cringe when I scroll to the comments. The fact is, there are thousand upon thousands of people of all ages sitting on their collective ass doing very little other than paying attention to the Kardashians or some other pointless distraction. What's RC doing? He's out on his bike clocking mileage and telling us all about it. He crafted a life for himself where that's his JOB. I'll never have his job but I hope I'm still riding like that when I'm his age. Respect. Keep on keepin' on, RC.
  • + 2
 @conv3rt: It's called ribbing.i get the piss took and love the banter.45 next month and still smokin hotWink
  • + 14
 @Earthmotherfu: oh, I'm not angry, just been thinking about this for a while. I rode yesterday and bumped into a couple of older fellas. Riding what they brought and having fun while doing it. We chatted a bit and it's like riding is their "golf" which makes me more excited about my future. Cause I don't golf.

I've been a PB member too long to get worked up over the comments. Just getting my opinion out there. it's all gooood
  • + 3
 @conv3rt: too right.theres a few fellas on here, some I like, some I don't,some got big fancy pant words,some don't.end of the day I enjoy the banter so I keep coming back.Old school...feck em allWink
  • + 18
 @Earthmotherfu: I think the only problem is, that in real life, with actual friends, sure, call him slow or old or a pussy or whatever. But on the internet, in regards to people you don't personally know, on a public forum... It just comes off as being a dick.

Cheers Beer
  • + 2
 @therealtylerdurden: you may be right.i said rc looks like me dad...he does,i will say,as my wife often points out,as I'm getting older I'm becoming more and more infantile.oh wellSmile
  • + 2
 @Earthmotherfu: BTW, I don't think anyone really had issue with your comment; I for one didn't. Most of this was directed @RedBurn. He went too far and overcooked the joke like any of us would overcook a corner on bald 2.1's lol
  • + 3
 Haha. I keep trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up but I think I missed the window for that. Ah well. As long as I'm enjoying life and not hurting people I fell into a good path. Let the good times roll!
  • + 1
 @conv3rt: well,I never got to be a spaceman..
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 @Earthmotherfu: haha. Me either man. Me either
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 shred until dead.
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 So you're saying you have a pretty cool dad?
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 What in the world was going on in that first paragraph???
  • + 23
 I think he's having an attack of the vernons
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 @mallorcadave: ha ha you silly twat !
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 @mallorcadave: @mallorcadave: I was just thinking about how pinkbike has come up a notch since VF jined up
  • + 6
 Trail bike my a$$.
6" travel,2.4 tires,66ºHA,200mm rotors,what's stopping this from entering the enduro category? 10mm of travel?
  • + 3
 Hmm maybe handling/kinematics which isn't just a sum of those numbers?
  • + 5
 "Black sections of the front triangle are natural carbon". I'm glad they are using natural carbon. I heard that synthetic carbon is bad for you.
  • + 3
 He means it's not painted black, it's a clear coat over the carbon.
  • + 4
 Hmmm. Looks like I'm the first comment, so what will it be? Effusive praise from Pinkbikers because BMC is not one of the "big boys," like Trek, Specialized or Santa Cruz? Or gripes about how you can get a YT for less?
  • + 33
 Now the first step to remove sand from your vajina is to file down your finger nails and take a warm bubble bath to soften the tissue... Big Grin
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 @WAKIdesigns: Ha! I voted you up, because I generally appreciate your contribution to the site.
  • + 18
 @WAKIdesigns: what....
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 Goon
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 @WAKIdesigns: what's wrong with a buttery marigoldSmile
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 @WAKIdesigns: chapeau, mon ami...
  • + 0
 You wasted it, bro.
  • + 7
 Looks like another brake hose feck upWink
  • + 11
 That's how it came... hose on the outside. It works. The Reverb hose was 22 inches too long.
  • + 2
 @RichardCunningham: for a reason or bad QC?
  • + 4
 @Earthmotherfu: barspins and tailwhips bro
  • + 2
 @captaintyingknots: tabletops and cherrypickers
  • + 1
 @RichardCunningham: of course it WORKS but it looks like shit
  • + 6
 Nice bike. Now tell me more about this redhead...
  • + 7
 Good move by BMC.
  • + 2
 Yes kids old guys can still rip it up! Nice to see BCM come out with a 27.5 trial machine. My son has a BCM Superstroke 150-165 APS. The thring is a beast, a bit too heavy to be a KOM killer on most trails but it is super versatile. He uses it for trail and lift service light DH stuff. BMC build great bikes, well known for road and tri bikes. I also had a DW bike, while it was much less travel and a light bike, the APS is close super plush. I woulds very much consider this as my next ride.
  • + 2
 Ironically, BMC bikes are rarely seen here in Switzerland. At least on the trails. Maybe they are popular with the typical older XC guys, which prefer to pedal up on the mountain roads and roll down the same after they had have a quick lunch from the saddle bag.
  • + 4
 Huh, but you all wear rolexes and the Swiss mt dog is trail dog of choice, right?
  • + 1
 @jasdo: Some people even belive that we are all farmers and eat chees and choccolate all day long. I'm sorry reality looks different.
With ironically I mean that the most popular bikes here came from North America. Rocky Mountain, Specialized, Yeti, Intense, Knolly and Transition to name a few. I dont't know anybody who rides a Swiss Bike.
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 @Mathullah Nothing wrong with munching out on the saddle bagsWink
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 @Mathullah: that's funny because the stereotype in my head is that you guys are either assembling watches or hiding rich people's money.
  • + 2
 The Speedfox Trailcrew…blows though big hits like "2 live crew" and makes you feel like a teenager running though the forest full of roots, rocks while playing Bob Marley and having a smoothie.
  • + 6
 Beefy Meaty Crunchy
  • + 1
 RC, do the seat stays remain wide forward of the dropouts? I've only seen the 29er versions in the flesh but I was actually hitting my heels on them.
  • + 1
 First full review I have read in a while, does anyone else just skip to head angle / seat angle / chain stay length on every bike review or is it just my OCD?
  • + 3
 Looks like a nice steed!!!
  • - 1
 "Steed", really? What are you, Shrek?
  • + 3
 Speedfox with no fox components WTF
  • + 1
 it's too fast, fox couldn't keep up with the speed.
  • + 1
 The 03 has a Fox shock........
  • + 2
 I was ordering a coffee the other day and some guy kept stareing at me.
  • + 1
 Looks good, and it's two shades of my favourite colour. Would actually consider buying that as my next bike.
  • + 3
 is that a bash guard + ?
  • + 1
 34 - 42 is fine for most riders!
  • + 1
 People ignoring the ridiculous 325mm BB height?
  • + 1
 So Santa Cruz Bronson or bmc trailcrew?
  • + 1
 That sag indicator is genius.
  • + 1
 Looks like a Giant Reign LoL.
  • + 2
 Exactly what I thought..
  • + 1
 Looks like a Reign
  • + 0
 BMC needs to lawyer up... D.W. doesn't Fuck around
  • + 2
 BMC has this step behind them... I guess D.W. is not very keen to talk about that.
  • + 1
 @cru-jones: very interesting, thanks for the heads up!
  • - 2
 Can we get a review on the Small and Xsmall size? Big wheels+short wheel base= don't even bother to manufacture.
  • - 1
 so rockshox dropped the hidraulic remote for a cable? gooooood
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