Last Call: Random Images from Outdoor Demo, Interbike 2017

Sep 19, 2017 at 2:15
by Richard Cunningham  
Interbike 2017 PIvot
Demo hopefuls line up at the crack of dawn for test romps on one of at least fifty Pivot models that evaporated into the desert landscape in less than an hour. Most popular? Mach 5.5 and Switchblade.

Interbike 2017 marks the curtain call for the largest bike expo in North America, and also for Outdoor Demo (Dirt Demo to most), which will be remembered as the most important innovation to spring forth from the show's organizers since its inception in 1982. Bootleg Canyon's now popular trail system was slated for development when local trail builder Brent Thompson and his friends rallied Boulder City residents to set some of the land aside for mountain bike riders and outdoor recreationists. His dream came to fruition and Bootleg Canyon was designated as an official park. Boulder City became a mountain bike destination and shortly after, the Interbike las Vegas Expo adopted it as their outdoor annex for two days each year.

Interbike 2017 Crankbrothers
Crankbrothers came through with their promise of a longer-stroke version of their Highline dropper: 160mm travel.
Interbike 2017 Crankbrothers
Flat pedals at four price points, from $80 to $350 USD.

Interbike 2017 Crankbrothers
The new 160mm Highline joins their 100mm and 125mm options.

Outdoor Demo at its peak was crammed with exhibitors large and small, and its interlocking circular walkways were jam packed with bike-curious retail employees. most of whom begged or coaxed their bosses for passage to Las Vegas for the opportunity to actually test ride bikes and gear that, in many cases, they would never have run across in the wild. Busloads of roadies and mountain bikers made the 35-minute journey, suited up and ready for action and, while many returned to the air-conditioned halls of Interbike with limbs bound and bandaged, the novelty to try before you buy was a win for retailers, for bike brands, and for the show itself.

Interbike 2017 dogs
Lilly ran alongside Dirk Kosechoreck for almost 13 years on trail, now she rides with him on her B.O.B. trailer.

Changes in both wholesale and retail buying, the direct access that the web provided to customers, and the fact that most brands were releasing new products much earlier in the season all began to take their toll on Interbike and one by one, larger brands began to opt out from the big show. But even then, most felt that Outdoor Demo's hands-on experience was essential to their message and many maintained their presence there.

Interbike 2017 Donuts
The secret stash of low-calorie donuts in the media tent. Outdoor Demo treats us well.

Interbike 2017 EX1
Christopher Wiggins, CEO of Glide Cruisers USA, shows off his prototype EX-1 electric powered utility bike.

Interbike 2017 EX1
Wiggens says the aluminum trailer is perfect to haul, "a lot of trail tools up the mountain."
Interbike 2017 EX1
The aluminum chassis uses a steel Surly fork. The racks are Blackburn's toughest off-road touring models.

All good things usually come to an end, and last year, while the indoor show reportedly did well, attendance by both exhibitors and retailers at Outdoor Demo fell noticeably. Not being privy to the business end of the show, I can't speculate if the downturn was due to a business decision or a change in the wind, but it was disheartening to see. This year, attendance seemed to drop further, but it wasn't for lack of enthusiasm. Retailers who did show up ready to rock were as stoked as ever, and the solitary circle of wholesalers who were on hand were standing in empty tents waiting for their charges to return.

Interbike 2017 Speedplay
Best known among cross-country and road riders, Speedplay is pushing into the gravity realm with its Brass Knuckle flat pedal. To reduce friction, each axle rides on three sealed cartridge bearings instead of the bearing/bushing combo most flat pedals feature.
Interbike 2017 Speedplay
Brass Knuckle's replaceable pins are available in 2mm or 4mm lengths and can be mixed and matched to simulate a concave platform.
Interbike 2017 Speedplay
The pin's star pattern is a reverse of the T25 Torx driver. this is the 2mm length.

Interbike announced that its new home will be Reno, Nevada, and Outdoor Demo will be staged at Northstar California Resort, a proper lift-access bike part 30-minutes up the mountain, near Truckee, California. The ski-area venue is expected to breathe new life into the outdoor event. The trails there offer something for everyone, and the scenery is wonderful. Better still, the dirt will be more forgiving for riders who fail to keep the rubber side down. Boulder City's volcanic rock was like falling on chipped porcelain.

Interbike 2017 Shimano XTR
Shimano had a cutaway XTR crankset on display to illustrate its myriad of construction techniques.

Interbike 2017 Shimano XTR
The hollow-forged arms are made from different pieces, smashed together in a giant press.

Interbike 2017 Shimano XTR
Look closely: the outer chainring's teeth are bonded to various layers of steel, aluminum and carbon fiber.

Interbike 2017 Shimano XTR
The axle is hollow steel, butted thicker where the splines receive the left crank-arm.

So, goodbye Bootleg Canyon, you've been a good friend. We're pullin' up stakes and heading north for greener pastures and a new batch of casinos. Before I leave this town, however, I'm raising my glass to Brent Thompson. Cheers mate! To you and to the trails you carved into the history books.

Interbike 2017 zoic
Outdoor exhibitors often offer special deals. At Zoic, You could trade up for new shorts worth over $100 USD. No photos, please.

Interbike 2017 Clever
Tomo Ichikawa, the man from Clever, who invented tire levers that double as pliers to disengage master links, has developed a 27-gram chain tool.

Interbike 2017 Clever
It's called the Chain Barrel, and it works on any width bicycle chain.
Interbike 2017 Clever
Soon it will be available with an internal handlebar attachment.



104 Comments

  • + 229
 That's not a "utility bike" or even some kind of "e-bike", it is a f*cking scooter. It is less relevant to mountain biking than the trays of donuts. W.T.Fing.F. Pinkbike.
  • + 88
 think i'd rather a ebike than a escooter...least i could sit down in shame
  • + 28
 Judging by the board height this thing already has limited trail access
  • + 29
 They try each day, little by little. I've said it before, it's like "it's not even drugs, how bad can it be, everyone is doing it" till when you noticed you're already there. They are just tricking themselves to think they don't want it, but they do, they want a motorbike that's not scary.
  • + 57
 Not only is it a scooter, it's a fat e-scooter with a military theme and LEDs in the wheels. Seriously pinkbike, sort your shit out. This is not what you are and this is not what anyone here wants.
  • + 16
 @AgrAde: While I see where you are coming from with this and I'm not happy by any means that PB got into e-bike sht 8reviews in particular, reporting stuff from E-bike world is perfectly fine to me, know your enemy FFS), I think you are overreacting and it's not what they are doing here:

Pinkbike was always reporting on weird stuff from Trade shows. Remember a pic of a fat woman on fat bike with TT helmet on? Fatbike with drop bars is a fkng gem, I'd rather ride this push bike...
  • + 43
 So, he uses it to bring tools for trail maintenance. I'd say that's relevant to mountainbiking.
  • - 5
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 19, 2017 at 3:47) (Below Threshold)
 @vinay: so you read the description...
  • + 34
 @vinay: I ride an old premix-burning two stroke moto up and down our local shared hiker biker trails early in the morning near a neighborhood so I can scope the XC trails and drop off tools to build jumps where I'm not supposed to. Does that make my moto bike related? Or Pinkbike relevant?
  • + 42
 I swear people just come here to find stuff to bitch about... oh no a scooter lets start a riot lmao does it affect your day to day life when they show this scooter absolutely not so why are you whining about it. Pinkbike can post anything they want. Why dont you go start your own site for boycotting "E" everying.
  • + 3
 @mhoshal: ha....awesome, I totally agree with you buddy Smile
  • + 19
 Boo....more whining about something different. So there's a few photos of the probably the most weird / unique / creative / unnecessary contraption at the show. Get over it. The weirdos keep the world interesting
  • + 1
 @0gravity: yes yes and yes
@TEAM-ROBOT - you may as well take a harvester, preferably 16V diesel, make a clearcut to get to the trail, Pinkbikers won't say anything. But put a battery with servo motor on a freaking damper and everyone's loosing their fkng minds
  • + 11
 Can't you just look at a picture and go, "Neato." without bitching? The trash bin for shorts isn't a bicycle either.
  • - 5
flag sebmx (Sep 19, 2017 at 6:36) (Below Threshold)
 Probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen and I've seen some really stupid stuff. I think I'd rather take all my tools up one at a time. I bet it only cost $4000 to make. What a deal Wink
  • - 1
 Whatever it's called, it looks pretty badass.
  • - 7
flag Rucker10 (Sep 19, 2017 at 7:22) (Below Threshold)
 Because it has "Bike" in the name, the E-bike pariah's will come out of the woodwork to defend it, claiming it's the future and at least it means access for the old and enfeebled. They will be shunned.
  • - 5
flag deadmeat25 (Sep 19, 2017 at 7:52) (Below Threshold)
 You fucking prick.
  • + 3
 I appreciate the scooter!
I'm just saying, because it's funny!
Everyone relax. Breath deep and see it as humor. Yes, I would not be cought dead with that thing. I rather see someone else be insane to show that...
It's just a joke people. Maybe the inner workings of PB intentionally likes all this banter about E-bikes because of the response and histaria about it. The comment section is just entertainment for us to go with. We are the ones in the outer sphere being laughed at and the E-bike craze will soon dissapere into the history books! I hope? ????
Chill out!
  • - 6
flag deadmeat25 (Sep 19, 2017 at 7:59) (Below Threshold)
 @FunctionalMayhem: Delusional...
  • + 1
 @TEAM-ROBOT: 2smokers all day!
  • + 22
 No Trolls. It's not an ebike. Not a mountain bike, No pedals. It's a motor scooter plain and simple.
  • - 7
flag deadmeat25 (Sep 19, 2017 at 9:07) (Below Threshold)
 @RichardCunningham: Instead of people like Mr Levy apologising every time he mentions a f*cking e-bike, nodding and winking along with his braindead f*ckwit ebike hating bum chums, why don't some of you just let f*cking rip at these stupid mother f*ckers that go mental anytime anything electric is even mentioned.

Pinkbike surely doesn't need these pricks, they need educating, it's a f*cking face palm farm on here, if more of you spoke out and corrected some of the complete bullshit that gets banded around from comment section to comment section, a lot of them would listen, they are sheep, a bunch of deferential vacant zombies that simply need input from people they respect, and if they still whine and moan, f*ck 'em.

I want to see more ebike content, more weird shit like this and just more of anything that isn't the same bike being built over and over again by multiple manufacturers, trying to sell the same thing to the same people that bought the same shit last time...
  • + 0
 @TEAM-ROBOT: Yes, I'd like to see a bike check, please!
  • - 1
 @vinay: For the trails that get flatter and smoother to get his fatter electric bicycle onto the pedal bicycle trail that suddenly is accomadating to the electric bike that lools like a sccooter....wait...was that a f-ing hoverboard on the trail...I mean, wait...it's a path now? Holy hell, Claudio is paving the e-bike path...

What ....is......happening.....to......

Oh, don't panic. They said I have to progress because I won't be happy if I just be me...I mean stay the same...I mean stagnant. They said I'm not allowed to stay where I'm at....I have to move my house...keep moving, progress....wait.

What....is......happp......
  • + 3
 @PhillipJ

He's got a sweet trailer to haul tools to build trail. It's relevant. Stop with effing whingeing already.
  • + 3
 @deadmeat25: Weren't you the one crying about the Yeti Turq a day ago? Seems like your bitching and moaning is the only relevant bitching and moaning going on I guess.
  • + 3
 @CaptainSnappy: So as long as it's electric and wheels go round, it's Pinkbike relevant? Cool. Check out this bike:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7JNPolgxDk
  • + 1
 @Rucker10: I think you'll find the two points are similar.
  • + 1
 I'll be surprised if he sells more than 10
  • - 1
 Every entrepreneur hears that at some point. The rest is natural selection. It's better than hearing that if you charge yourself with positive thinking everything will solve it's self out. V*I*S*U*A*L*I*Z*E
  • + 3
 The Donut picture was the only pic that had me read the caption.... probably the only relevant thing on interbike 2017
  • + 2
 @michibretz: Oh boy, sometimes I dream about trays of donuts when hitting a trail, particulalry in the beginning of the season.
  • + 4
 Did any of you notice the sign behind the motorized scooter?
  • + 1
 @iamamodel: saw the thumbnail and came as fast as i could! what did i miss?
look in the background. Bike path, no motor vehicles. Too perfect!
I wanna see him zip off down that path with his PB tshirt on.
  • + 2
 I think you all missed the point. The e-scooter was posted as a deflection. So that the comment section wasn't dominated by mocking of speedplay pedals.
  • + 1
 @mhoshal: also just dont click on the article.. or stop going on pinkbike? people complain a lot these days
  • + 4
 Mmmmm...donuts
  • + 1
 @dontcoast: excellent point
  • + 26
 Love that cut out of XTR cranks. Would be cool to see one from SLX.
  • + 59
 SLX is so cheap that you can do it yourself
  • + 3
 7000 series is the same just different finishes, thicker and not sure if the chain rings have 3 materials.
  • + 1
 I always thought hollow forged simply was a tube forged into shape. Wasn't aware that it were separate parts forged together. I just decided to replace my old 2004 LX cranks because the octalink interface is so worn that it constantly works itself loose and the play it has is giving me knee problems. Getting Truvativ with a Howitzer interface now, but I'll cut these cranks apart and see what's inside. Considering the shape I don't think these are made from two parts and they might not be as hollow either.
  • + 1
 @vinay: For everything except XTR, I think you're correct, or they have some "filler" material that they melt out after it's formed. In the past that back plate on the XTR was welded on and then finished. I don't know if that's still the cas, but It's more than a press/friction fit it think.
  • + 3
 Ditto ... all the way up the line, cutaway insides and then the multiple stages of exterior finishing that goes up to XTR. Best in the biz at clearly executing tiers of components.
  • + 1
 @twozerosix: looking at this picture makes it even harder for me to understand the idea of using carbon fiber to make cranksets. Also that sandwich chainring on XTR is crying for WHY
  • + 2
 I adore the lower Shimano lines like SLX and Deore. Just as good for the normal weekend warrior as XTR. More durable than a flimsy XTR carbon rear derailleur I destroyed non stop till I quit. The SLX crank is pure dope.
  • + 2
 @madmon: The only issue I have with all current shimano cranks is the durability of the finish. Shimano used to put silver finish on sides of XTR and SLX through last 7 years or more. For good reasons. My friends XTR 9000 got "polished" in a matter of 3 - 4 months, my SLX 7000 has already got distinctive marks and i rode it max 20 times. But SLX is one of the prettiest cranks out there. I recommend wrapping it with that thick vinyl though, like SRAM does with their Carbon cranks
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I agree my Saint and SLX logo wore off quick but they all still run solidly......can't say that about my Sram experiences
  • + 21
 Can we kill all this Ebike hate comments already. Its getting pretty f*cking tiresome. We get it already. And no i don't have one nor plan on getting one.
  • + 37
 No man. They must be killed before they lay eggs
  • + 1
 Because to do so would be to surrender and admit to ourselves that ebikes have successfully disrupted the MTB sphere permanently. And some of us aren't willing to do that yet; even if the writing is on the wall and deep inside, we know it to be true.
  • + 17
 Forget the ebike thing for a moment and lets take in the fact that their is a $350 peal being made by Crankbrothers. Let that sink in......
  • + 13
 Let's not go there again...
  • + 4
 As long as PB continues to go gaga over heli-dropped shred videos, you folks don't have a leg to pedal with. Bootleg Canyon is arguably the perfect location for responsible eBike use: ride your eBike up the fireroad to the observatory, drop in on any number of downhill trails unassisted; get rid of the shuttle running up and down the hill every weekend. Certainly, there could be issues of impact on the surrounding XC trails -so mark them as prohibited for eBike use. There's no universal, one-size-fits-all application, but with responsible use, eBikes can be both relevant to our bicycling community, and get fossil-fuel burning vehicles out of our trail networks. In my years of riding Bootleg Canyon, I would have much preferred a parade of eBikes up the fireroad beside some of my favorite XC trails, rather than the noisy and dusty shuttle rigs.
  • + 5
 Are you going to be in charge of the agency that approves and vets Ebike choices then? For what trails will you consider it appropriate? Is the "assist" bike with the 50CC petrol motor for sale in Buy/Sell right now ok on your XC trail? Maybe I have a strong opinion about it because I share trails with moto's and they destroy everything, but as long as you say one bike with a motor is ok, so are the rest.
  • - 1
 @Rucker10: so much anger directed at ebikes instead of dumbass law system and lobbying practices in your country. Having said that, I do not condone ebike use on mixed trails at all. I have a hard time accepting them on established MTB trails and cyclepaths in cities. But I am not crying over spilled milk, belief that this can be stopped is pure stupidity. Their poliferation has to be controlled which is the same for regular MTBs.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: It's not a great system, you're correct. Access here often leads to trail closures. It's easier for a municipality, state, or federal agency to simply close trails then it is to figure out what access is appropriate. I'm not sure that it can be stopped either, but I think that it can be kept on the margins through social pressure.
  • + 1
 @Rucker10: The managers and builders who are authorized to maintain a trail network should make the decisions of where to allow eBikes, and under what conditions. The point was, Bootleg Canyon -the host of the Dirt Demo of all places- is a location where responsible eBike use could work, have minimal impact, and reduce the number of cars/trucks that run within the trail-system.
  • + 1
 @JVance: I don't agree with the case you're making, but having said that I think that it's very reasonable that a user group could make said case to the managers and builders of a trail network in the manner you describe. If that's how the issue of Ebikes is handled then I'm satisfied.
  • + 4
 RC - I live close to the Sea Otter and every year we swing by to see the new bike bling. I believe this has become US bike tradeshow. About 5-6 years, the Sea Otter seemed to be in decline, but about 3 years ago it was back in full force. Last year, the tents extended into new areas. A lot of new products make their appearance at the Sea Otter. This is when Fox showcases their new stuff. It makes sense because it is spring and start of the mountain season for many in the northern hemisphere. I believe the Sea Otter has stolen Interbike's thunder, along with your mention of Eurobike timing, as well as the direct access via the internet.
  • + 5
 I agree, regular people can go to Sea Otter - ride and race, and see all the new stuff in the expo area. It's probably what Interbike needs to become in order to remain relevent.
  • + 3
 Come in guys you know they read these comments. The Pinkbike folks know what we like and don't. They know e-bikes are stirring up everyone on the comments. What do you think RC thought when he saw a fat tire E-Scooter, with racks on it... RC is the original bike troll.
  • + 5
 Trails were probably too awesome. People can't handle tech anymore. Need some smooth flow trails to demo all those 160mm bikes on.
  • + 1
 Northstar has plenty of chunk and tech to offer. Let's just hope this encourages them to do a little trail maintenance in the coming years.
  • + 3
 Speedplay has been making the Brass Knuckle for a few years now, and it's even less relevant than ever these days. Thick body, massive pins, and way too heavy. Would be a better fit in the late 90s.
  • + 2
 What do you mean? It's the perfect pedal for my Brooklyn Machine Works w/skull stem and 24" Gazzos!
  • + 5
 My XT cranks looked similar when I completely wore through drive side with muddy shoe rub
  • + 24
 Not calling BS, but I'd like to see a photo of that, please.
  • + 1
 Would love to see a pic of that!
  • + 2
 Ha ha...my buddy did that during a ride at the Kingdom Trails in Vermont last year. Unbelievable!
  • + 1
 It's no BS. I've seen worn through SLX cranks on a mate's bike. I went straight home and put protective stickers on mine!
  • + 5
 Save me a pink sprinkled one, thanks!
  • + 1
 Interbike has become a really sad wasteland. Last year I was aghast at how many manufacturers didn't show up for outdoor demo, and even less for the actual show. This year, less than 50% (being generous) of the outdoor demo space was occupied. I hope the new venue does better.
  • + 1
 As both a motocrosser and a mountain biker. I'd like to say that, while similar in many ways. I'm not pushing for a hybrid of sorts. Therefore, myself and others who follow in our combined passions Should not be held accountable for the electric bike trend. The ebike in my opinion, is a double edged sword. While for most of the street fairing commuters. It can be a good thing. Affordable and much less damaging to the environment than a car. Not to mention the ease on traffic, fuel consumption, and an added health benefit when the battery dies. on the trails I feel that it should only be permissible on fire roads or to those who have physical deficiencies. Let's be honest. The real enemy are the hikers!
  • + 3
 The brass knuckle pedal can be used to beat a guy who wants steal your bike
  • - 7
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 19, 2017 at 2:45) (Below Threshold)
 If I already had a Park tool spanner in my hand, I'd rather use that... but if it's 8mm allen only then you are fkd
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I've got octalink, I carry a 10mm allen key. If the thief persists, I bring out the bicycle workstand.
  • - 5
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 19, 2017 at 3:50) (Below Threshold)
 @vinay: it would make for a fun fight sport. Mechanic Martial Arts. Each gets the same bike. Each gets to pick as many parts from it as he manages within 1,5 minutes and use it as a weapon.
  • + 9
 @WAKIdesigns: Oh no, you know how some mechanics use electrically powered screwdrivers for wheelbuilding? I tell you, it is cheating. There really is no difference between between pneumatic and electric power tools. Mechanics are getting lazy. You know, I always lift my bike in the workstand by muscle power. I look at that and go "pfff, lazy fat mechanic". Sure if for the elderly and disabled mechanics sure I make an exception. But fully healthy strong mechanics. It is going to destroy the sport. See, I always carry my own regular hammer for trail side maintenance. And now you see all these dentists carrying pneumatic hammers and a trailer full of CO2 cartridges to power it. It just ain't the same. You don't have that there in Sweden. Over here it is a serious issue and it is going to eventually the trails to be closed. The Rangers simply can't distinguish between regular riders carrying everyday hammers and those bringing pneumatic stuff. You know why you still have blueberries next to your trails and we don't? Pneumatic hammers, I tell you. Was watching footage of the Rampage the other day. No blueberries in sight, too many pneumatic hammers.

Rant to be continued.
  • + 3
 Hey man hold up while I take my pedal off....................................hold on, I forgot this on spins backwards .....................................almost done.....................there. Let me beat you with my pedal.
  • + 1
 Or when you have an audition for west side story at 2 and a ride planned at 3
  • - 2
 @vinay: ok ok, I still want to know, how would one attack a bike thief by unscrewing something from the bike he is stealing... that sounds like an old Scottish expression: taking a fSmile ck at a rolling donut...
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: That's why I ride with a camelbak. If the thief takes my bike, I still have the workstand, the 10mm allen key and water.
  • + 2
 "The new 160mm Highline joins their 100mm and 125mm options"...and is suuuuuuuuuuper slow. I know because I have one. Bad purchase. I regret.
  • + 2
 Wow is that the extent of things for interbike at the dirt demo? I remember when day 1 had tow articles worth of items. Bye dirt demo and interbike enjoy Reno.
  • + 3
 Coolest Dog Trailer Ever for the Coolest Trail Dog Ever!
  • + 1
 Hey RC, I know you've been selling bikes for years, but let's call that dumb eBike an eBike and stop pretending it's a "utility bike"
  • + 1
 Grab that pedal and punch someone. MKe the world a better place
  • + 1
 I would like to see shimano dm cranks... they already sell the spiderless arms to some power meter company... now please bring it to the market.
  • + 1
 Who hasnt punched someone in the face with a brass knucle pedal before??? And for the record, nobody seen nothing. not never.
  • + 2
 I assure you that punching someone in the face with this pedal will be the last punch you throw with this hand in weeks. What a fkng cool idea, what a connotation to capitalize on. Hey Crankbros has the egg beater, we made a wife-beater! But hey the most outrageous idea in this feed is the motor.
  • + 2
 I interbike is dieing. Goodbye!
  • + 2
 Biking is dead! E-bike forever!
  • + 1
 Apple Fritters........ *drooool*

Now time to go press some coffee......
  • + 2
 I love Zoic shorts. Great deal there.
  • + 1
 Low calorie donuts?! Defeats the whole purpose of eating donuts
  • + 1
 I call BS on the low calorie claim. Big Grin
  • + 2
 Chain tool by DuraCell!
  • + 1
 That's one Clever looking Duracell battery.
  • + 1
 Speedplay's pedals look like brass knuckles.
  • + 1
 27grs chain breaker? Take my money!
  • + 1
 And don't come back!!

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