Gore Pro Jacket
Gore invented the breathable, three-layer sandwich that quickly became the basis for nearly all waterproof performance gear. For those not up to speed on the concept, a thin layer of porous foam is bonded between two layers of fabric. The holes in the sandwich layer are small enough to allow water vapor to pass through, but not water in liquid form. Jackets made from the stuff can keep a sweaty athlete dry inside, while managing to ward off the elements from the outside.
Exactly how and from what the Gore-Tex composite layers are constructed has a lot to do with how well the garment will perform that magic. Today's review item: the One Gore-Tex Pro Jacket, is built from that brand's elite level material by the same name, and constructed using every trick in the foul-weather handbook. It's available in black only and in small, medium, large, X-large and double-X, with a wallet-blistering MSRP of $500 USD.
Pro Jacket Details:• Gore-Tex Pro laminate: waterproof, windproof and extremely breathable
• Polyamide fabric outer layer for durability
• Two front zip-pockets
• Fold-away drop tail
• Reflective elements on hood and sleeves
• Adjustable cuffs
• Dual=adjustable hood
• Two side-zip ventilation openings
• Fleece-lined, high collar
• Napoleon phone pocket with zip
• Black only, in sizes: small, medium, large, X and XX-large
• MSRP: $500 USD
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Gore Apparel ConstructionFrom the outside, Gore's showcase jacket looks simple - almost plain - but inspect the inside of the garment and you will see how well it has been constructed and marvel at its impeccable detail work. The taped seams, sealed zipper treatments and shock-cord hood and waist adjustments are so accurately applied that they appear to be graphic treatments, and everywhere there might be a wear point or a buildup of stress, you'll find a bar-tack or a reinforcement patch.
This jacket is designed as an outer layer to ward off rain and snow and as such, has no insulation. The outer fabric is a Polyamide (the generic name for Nylon) material crafted to resist abrasion and treated to bead off water. The rear panel of the jacket is dropped slightly and inside, there is a snap-up flap that extends the back by another three inches (75mm). The non-detachable hood has a reflective visor, and is designed to fit under a helmet. The hood can be adjusted independently from each side with small shock-cord draw-strings to maximize peripheral vision. The shock cord waist adjustments are inside the zip side pockets and both the hood and waist cords are designed so that they cannot be pulled through, either by errant use or a persistent washing machine.
The zip-up turtle-neck has a comfortable, velvet-like material inside and a waterproof outer. It is tall enough to hide under a full-face helmet to keep water from dribbling down your neck, and also to insulate it from any contact from the flapping hood when that is not deployed.
Should you produce more moisture than the Gore-Tex Pro material can expel, or simply need to reduce the temperature inside the jacket, two large side zippers are placed where the open panels will deflect wind-blown rain or snow, while maximizing ventilation. In theory, the breathable Gore-Tex material that the jacket is made from would provide more than adequate moisture control, leaving the vents to function as temperature regulators. If more ventilation is needed, however, the jacket's main zipper has two pulls to direct air from above or below the front panels.
Gore's designers minimized the external features to the essentials, with two side zip-pockets and a convenient phone pocket that is protected by a flap mid-way down the jacket's front zipper. The fit is listed as "comfort" - a looser cut than what you'll find on, say, a racing jacket - but it
is tailored for elite-level athletes and thus, may be a tighter fit for North American riders who tend to be chubbier than their European counterparts. Gore officials say that the fit is designed to be looser than a road or a cross-country racing jacket, but it is intended to be on the snug side to assist the transfer of moisture from the inner garment through the Gore-Tex barrier.
Ride ReportI had the opportunity to review the jacket without any preconceptions. A friend was in town. A winter storm was raging, I had committed to a long ride in the mountains, and there was no alternative date. Both of my go-to jackets were unavailable, so I opened my drawer of review items, grabbed the first jacket I found, ripped it from its plastic sheath and threw it into my gear bag.
We started in blowing rain and snow, descended a thousand meters with a few extended climbs tossed in to keep us honest, and through it all, I was never out of my comfort zone. I opened the side vents on one of the first climbs and left them open for much of the splash-fest, which should have drenched my base-layer - but my core stayed dry from beginning to end. I never overheated - which was a first for me. I was drenched to the bone everywhere else, but when I removed the jacket, my base layers were dry.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once and a while. I could have been lucky that day and worn exactly the right combinations of base-layers under a mediocre rain jacket. Successive storms and abnormally low temperatures for California, however, afforded me the opportunity to try the jacket in a wider range of conditions - all of which ended with similar results. Impressed and curious, I looked up the jacket on the Gore web page and was not all that surprised to discover I had been wearing their five-hundred-dollar flagship rain jacket.
Technically, I found little to complain about. I would not have chosen a jacket with a non-detachable hood, and I prefer the hood to fit over my helmet. The Pro jacket's extended "turtle neck," however, eliminated any sensation that the hood was back there and over time, I came to appreciate wearing the hood under my helmet. Wearing the hood on the outside often creates scoops on either side of my neck that funnel frigid air towards my ears. The Gore jacket didn't do that. I liked the simplicity of the elastic draw strings at the hood and waist, but I found it difficult at times to operate the hood's hidden, cord-release tabs (they are concealed between two layers of fabric) with numb fingers. I liked the jacket's more tailored fit. I wear medium everything and the medium size moved well, both while I was climbing and when I was pushing my luck on the descents. Considering its sticker price, I would still advise non-professional athletes to try before they buy.
Pinkbike's Take: | I won't lie to you. Five hundred bucks is a lot to pay for a rain jacket. That said, I was discussing the Pro jacket with a friend who designed climbing gear. He said that, 'all the top brands make one cost-is-no-object jacket to show their stuff. They don't sell a lot of them, but as you discovered: when you use the best materials and construction techniques, the end product is pretty damn awesome.' That sums it up for me. - RC |
Why you wouldn't use Gore-Tex C-Nit or something like, which is lighter, more pack-able, less stiff etc. and delivers you the same functionally from a membrane standpoint for MTB is beyond me.
Solid name choice btw.
My parents each picked up a 7Mesh 3L jacket on sale this fall, and after checking it out I regretted not purchasing.
1. What actually prevent the jacket from being wet is a surface coating called DWR. This coating wears down, fast. Like a few days on the mountain. Without it, the outer layer soaks in all the water and the jacket doesn't breath. It can be reapplied, but it'll never be as good as new.
2. Body cools down by evaporative cooling. If outside relative humidity is over 85% (typical on rainy day), sweat will condense on the skin no matter how much money you wasted on your jacket.
3. Waterproof breathable membranes are usually 3 layers glued together. The glue is intolerent to body oil, sunscreen and other chemicals. They all eventually delaminate, much quicker than you would like.
4. DWR, glue and all this plastic is not eco friendly at all.
5. They are stiff and doesn't move well with your body.
I still like Gore-Tex for certain uses, such as backcountry sking pants, resort skiing jacket, camping, etc. But I'd never use it for mountain biking. I'd much rather have a good softshell.
As long as I am not riding in absolute downpour, just some casual rain, I tend to use thin synthetic compression base layer, then merino wool thermal layer and some long sleeve jersey on top. In this way I am warm even when soaked through (as I would be anyways if sweated inside a membrane). I ride in rain jacket only if it's about to piss bricks because then the cold water from the downpour cools the body too fast. So only then a rain jacket makes sense to me.
The bigger problem for me here is that there are no reinforcements on elbows so this jacket won't survive too many bails. I am buying POC rain jacket this year. Relatively cheap, ok waterproofness, ok breathability and reinforced elbows.
Plus I've recently started to wear elbow pads on the outside of the jacket now. They are black like my jacket so I like to think no-one will notice! I might look stupid, but when the weather is that bad there's nobody else riding to see me
I agree with the quality of their stuff, but there's no way you need to spend this much to get decent protection.
."The non-detachable hood has a reflective visor, and is designed to fit under a helmet."
I find my ski jacket very comfortable with the hood on top of the helmet.
Once again manufactures drop the ball. I think you are right Richard. Gore won't sell many of these jackets.
I do like gortex jackets I'm old and own 4 or 5. But as some one else said here in the Pacific North West. Mountain biking is where gortex goes to die.
But I'm not #enduro so what do I know?
The rest of us are probably not the intended customers.
Is Arcteryx using the new Gore C-Knit fabric?
i'm not sure what it says about me that i read it and am posting a comment.
we're definitely all cogs in this marketing/hype machine though.
@RichardCunningham But as we are mountainbikers, what about vulnerability to the obligatory thorn trees? What about wear from Velcros accidentally touching the outer shell (saw some pretty ugly pulled threads on other jackets)? What about resistance to crash marks?
Since I commute 25km per direction to work and live in a very rainy country, the MT500 (jacket + pants) has probably been the best or at least one of the best buys I've had, even with its price tag. Even for road cycling / mtb-ing it motivates me to still go out even if it might start raining any second and even when it's already raining. Thanks to the MT500 I can ride much more since weather is not something that stops me anymore (unless the roads are frozen). Obviously I also invested in proper waterproof gloves and proper Bontrager RXL stormshell overshoes.
Pro-Tip though - for anyone with a Gore-Tex jacket who's afraid of damaging it - MEC sells these Gore-Tex iron-on patches. I crashed in the snow while commuting last year, and used these to patch both my rainpants and jacket. They stick permanently and work just like the original fabric.
www.mec.ca/en/product/5002-436/GORE-TEX-Repair-Kit
Given the vast amount of praise they have, perhaps some of it was just a faulty batch, but then that doesn't say much for their QC
@Puddings: as above
If you're hesitant because of the risk of ripping the jacket on branches etc. remember the climbing and mountaineering jackets are designed for just as exposed environments (sharp rocks etc) if not more. Just buy it in black and you won't notice it if you patch it up with an iron on goretex patch
of course for that price it was deeply discounted. Because it had a waterproof zipper, that were not popular.
www.klim.com/Cat/Outerwear/Gender/Men/Passion/Snow/SubCat/Jacket-Non-Insulated,Pant-Non-Insulated?_ga=1.207845521.2039395067.1449944711
If I ever go riding and there's a slight chance of rain then I'll bring a cheap rain shell with me that's light and compact.
I do own an expensive rain jacket but primarily used for hiking and days when pouring outside or snowing.
You can rob me.
You can starve me.
You can beat me
and you can kill me.
Just don't GORE me!
Would look good walking the dog though, and last longer too.
But if its worth it also really depends on your situation. For example if it hardly ever rains in your country it is a waste of money. But if you live in a rainy country and commute 25km per direction to work it is really worth it's value, especially if it lasts for 5-10 years (grabbing a car or train every time it gets rainy would cost much more in the end).
Thievery. Bell/Giro sell their MIPS helmets cheaper than TLD, etc because they own the licensing. Other brands have to pay to use it.
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. A GORE branded jacket should be cheaper than their competitors, not more expensive....ever.
The Gore-Tex brand has value; It's like the Apple of water proof fabrics. People would pay more for an Apple branded iPhone than for the exact same hardware, software, and service with a different logo on it.
Not even a perverse joke or punch line? JP....you got kids now or something? @scary1 you see this?
Did I mention I need some Gore gear? Did I?
Still not cheap, but not $500 either!