Review: 2019 Cannondale Jekyll 29-1

Jan 15, 2019 at 6:30
by Richard Cunningham  
Cannondale’s Jekyll has been the brand’s long-travel trail bike since before the genre was popular. This month, PB reviews their new 29-inch wheel version, a bike that fans have been hungry for since prototypes were spotted under their team riders at EWS races last year. The wait was worth it. Aptly named the Jekyll 29, it marks the final step that Cannondale needed to bring their flagship enduro racer to its full potential.

In case you haven't stayed abreast of the changes at Cannondale, their signature one-sided Lefty suspension strut disappeared from the Jekyll when the 27.5-inch wheel version of this chassis was released - no doubt, a result of the brand's investment in EWS racing, which also signaled the end of their Dyad pull shock. The new Jekyll 29 benefits by being upgradable and more future proof.
Jekyll 29-1

• Intended use: All-mountain/enduro
• Travel: 150mm rear / 150mm front
• Wheel size: 29"
• Frame construction: Carbon fiber front section/aluminum rear suspension
• Gemini remote system toggles rear-wheel from 120 to 150mm
• Head angle: 65°
• Chainstay length: 442mm (M)
• Sizes: S, M, L. XL
• Weight: (Size M) 29.5 lbs (13.4 kg)
• Price: $6850 USD
• More info: Cannondale

bigquotesCannondale may have stepped back from their penchant for wild designs for the moment, but the Jekyll 29’s chassis has a few creative touches that stand out.RC

The Jekyll’s sleek carbon front section and linkage-driven, single-pivot rear suspension boasts 150 millimeters of wheel travel. Cannondale collaborated with Fox to develop the DPX2 EVOL “Gemini” remote actuated shock, which switches the travel from 150 to 120 millimeters and firms up the ride. Simple looking bridgeless seatstays drive the shock via a massive rocker link that arcs over the bottom bracket, creating the negative space dedicated to the Jekyll’s vertically mounted water bottle. In the Cannondale tradition, its front section is carbon fiber, while the rear suspension is welded aluminum, although you’d have to look closely, because the dual-pass welding appears seamless. The profile of the Jekyll looks different, but it’s the high-quality, well-thought-out kind of different.

With an MSRP of $6850 USD, the top shelf Jekyll 29-1 has a killer component selection – one that won’t have you scrambling for an upgrade until you’ve ridden it into the ground. It’s suspended by a Fox Factory 36 fork with the FIT Grip2 damper, and its low-slung frame ensures room for 150mm-stroke Fox Transfer dropper post. Other key players include a SRAM Eagle XO1 drivetrain, powerful Code RSC brakes, and combat-proven Stans Flow Mk3 aluminum rims shod with Maxxis Minion DHF and DHR tires. Cannondale-branded items fill out a roomy cockpit that highlights the Jekyll’s aggressive geometry




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Construction and Features

Cannondale may have stepped back from their penchant for wild designs for the moment, but the Jekyll 29’s chassis has a few creative touches that stand out. Its massive rocker link plays two roles. It moderates the shock rate changes that short links create, and it makes room for the Jekyll’s vertical water bottle placement.

Not obvious, but important, Cannondale offsets the rear axle six millimeters to the right, which offers a better chain line with12-speed cassettes, and evens the dissimilar spoke angles and tension that affect conventional rear wheels. Other touches include beefy bash protection beneath its carbon front triangle, tubular guides for its internal cables and hoses, and dedicated ports for Shimano Di2 wiring, should you be inclined.

Carbon is used only for the Jekyll’s front section. Its rear suspension components are aluminum. The single-pivot swingarm and massive rocker link hinge on sealed ball bearings and a special axle arrangement that Cannondale developed, which reportedly is more rigid and reliable. Their quest for pivot supremacy extends to the seatstays, which terminate at massive clevis fittings above the dropouts.
Cannondal AI 6mm swingarm offset
Cannondale's AI swingarm is offset 6mm to the right to better center the rim between the hub flanges. Motorcycles have been doing this for many years. Cannondale image

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Sturdy clevis-type pivots give added stiffness to the Jekyll's welded aluminum rear suspension.
bigquotesA massive rocker link arcs over the bottom bracket, creating the negative space dedicated to the Jekyll’s vertically mounted water bottle.
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Yes, a large bottle will fit inside there.

No provision is given for a front derailleur, which eliminates the need for a tragically offset drive-side chainstay. The Jekyll’s swingarm takes the shortest distance between the axle and the frame, and picks up a significant measure of tire clearance along the way. Up top, the seatstays are bridgeless, which makes room for tires up to 2.5 inches with 29-inch wheels and also facilitates the Jekyll’s relatively short, 442 millimeter chainstays. Oh, and there are ISCG 05 mounts on its press-in bottom bracket shell if anyone can remember what those are for.


Jekyll 29 Geometry 2019


Geometry & Sizing

Cannondale was one of the first mountain bike brands to adopt steep seat tube angles, but the likes of Pole and Nicolai have raised that bar considerably higher. The Jekyll’s 75-degree seat tube is mild by contemporary standards, but sporty enough to keep most riders happy on the climbs. Up front, 65 degrees is in the slack department for a 29er’s head tube angle. Cannondale pairs it with fork that has 42mm of offset.

Reach is on the tip of almost every new bike buyer’s tongue, and bike makers have been pushing the limits. Our medium-sized review bike is listed at 441 millimeters, which is ample, but not excessive. In fact, Cannondale reduced the reach numbers on the Jekyll 29 compared to the 27.5" wheeled version by approximately 7mm.

The Jekyll's chainstays measure in at 442 millimeters, and the bottom bracket height is not rock bashing low, at 355 millimeters (14”). Keep in mind that that number is with a 150mm fork - going with even more travel up front will create and even higher bottom bracket.



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Suspension Design

The overarching story about the Jekyll’s kinematic design is that it was reportedly crafted to keep the rear suspension supple and near its sag point under braking. That’s a clever trick to pull off with a single-pivot rear suspension, but it can be done. Swingarm pivot placement and proper ride height play commanding roles in that equation, so getting your shock tune right may be key to the Jekyll’s happiness.

Cannondale and Scott have been long-time proponents of handlebar-remote suspension-travel devices. Like Scott’s, Cannondale’s Gemini employs a dual chamber air spring that shortens the Jekyll’s rear-wheel travel from 150 millimeters, to 120 and raises the ride height of the rear suspension. The combined effect is excellent for climbing, because it emulates a steeper seat tube angle and provides the extra support needed to compensate for the rearward weight shift. The downside is the necessary addition of the Fox-made Gemini control lever on the handlebar.

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The Fox-built Gemini dual-travel remote toggles between 120 and 150 millimeters of rear-wheel travel.

The shock itself is a Fox Float Factory DPX2 EVOL that both Cannondale and Fox say, has a very light damping tune, which indicates that the suspension has a low leverage ratio. If that’s the case, I’d anticipate that small modifications in the spring pressure and damping adjustments will have a larger impact on the bike’s performance.

Cannondale chose a Fox Float Factory 36 fork (with the impressive FIT Grip2 Damper) that matches the rear-suspension’s 150-millimeter travel. I like the trend to bias the bike's travel, with slightly more travel in the fork, but the Jekyll’s big wheels should make an additional 10 millimeters of squish up front a non issue.


Jekyll 29-1 Build
Specifications
Release Date 2019
Price $6850
Travel 150mm
Rear Shock Fox Float Factory DPX2 EVOL w/ Gemini dual mode air spring
Fork Fox Float Factory 36, 150mm, FIT Grip2 Damper
Headset Generic
Cassette SRAM X01 Eagle, 10-50, 12-speed
Crankarms Truvativ Stylo 7K, 30t cog
Chainguide ISCG 05 mounts
Bottom Bracket Cannondale press-fit 30mm
Pedals NA
Rear Derailleur SRAM Eagle XO1
Chain SRAM
Front Derailleur NA
Shifter Pods SRAM Eagle XO1
Handlebar Cannondale C1 carbon, 15mm 9°x 4°, 780mm
Stem Cannondale aluminum, 31.8mm, 35mm length
Grips Cannondale lock-on
Brakes SRAM Code RSC, 200/180mm Centerline rotors
Wheelset Ai Custom 6mm offset
Hubs SRAM 900
Spokes DT Swiss Competition
Rim Stan's NoTubes Flow MK3
Tires Maxxis Minion WT EXO - DHF 2.5" & DHR 2.4"
Seat Fabic Scoop, chromoly rails
Seatpost Fox Transfer dropper 150mm



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I rode the Jekyll 29 in a variety of conditions, including mud, snow, and hero dirt. Most of my saddle time, however, was typical for home: fast-paced, rocky, rutted, dusty and slick as hot buttered hell. My first ride was a high-speed beater – primarily downhill over rock gardens that often command a toll in paint, rubber and flesh. Near the bottom, my once-sensitive-to-adjust shock was toast. I could screw the clickers all the way in and they had little damping to offer in compression and rebound.

I was told by both Fox and Cannondale that the original DPX2 tune for the Jekyll was one of the lightest the factory had ever used and that overheating it may have caused the issue. A new shock was installed with the slightly heavier damping tune that current models now share and it survived a repeat performance on the same trail. It's been running since with no further problems.

As anticipated, the new Jekyll’s rear suspension took a few tries to get right. As a starting point, I ran the recommended, 30-percent sag (at the shock), which worked out to 170psi. I arrived at five clicks out for the DPX2 shock’s low-speed rebound. The resulting ride was much more firm that I expected, with a busload of mid-stroke support for pedaling.
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bigquotesAs anticipated, the new Jekyll’s rear suspension took a few tries to get right.
I really had to hit something hard to achieve full travel and I wanted the rear suspension to ride lower in the turns, so I experimented with reduced spring-pressure settings. Surprisingly, 160psi (just 10 psi less) dropped the shock sag to 40 percent and rode too softly. I inched back up to 168, which is where I left it for the duration.

The Fox 36 fork was more familiar to me. I ended up with 68psi in the spring, with low-speed compression set two clicks in, high-speed compression five clicks in, and low-speed rebound, five clicks out.

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Climbing

I found the Jekyll to be an easy climber, both for its efficient feel at the cranks and for its agility up technical climbs. The cockpit is roomy and I liked the weight balance, which kept the front wheel on the ground without eroding rear-wheel traction. Its 2.4-inch Maxxis rear tire and WT-type casing put a lot of rubber to the ground, which further enhanced climbing grip. Cannondale specs a smaller, 30-tooth chainring, which allows riders with sub-pro-cross-country legs take full advantage of the Jekyll's portfolio of climbing skills to top challenging pitches that many would be forced to push.

This latest version of Cannondale's Gemini remote seems to have a less aggressive tune than previous models. The ultra-progressive feel in short-travel mode has been muted, so the efficiency of the system is felt less from pedaling firmness and more from the fact that the Jekyll's tail end sits noticeably higher, which means that its effective seat angle remains steeper and more ergonomically correct when you need it most. That said, the Jekyll feels efficient enough without engaging the Gemini lever, and one test rider stopped using it altogether.

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Reduced offset forks are the rage these days, and 29ers with slack head tube angles benefit most from that discovery. Cannondale's paring of a 42-millimeter offset with the Jekyll's 65-degree head tube angle keeps its steering light and responsive at speed, but while climbing steeper grades, the steering can get wiggly. That was bothersome initially, but I adapted to the quirk after about a week in the saddle.

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Descending

Get its shock and fork balanced and the Jekyll will reward you on the downs with intuitive control and trustworthy cornering traction. The rear suspension seems to be the key player in the handling equation. If it rides too high, the bike feels a little unstable down the rocks and roots. Too soft and it bogs down in the turns and bounces out of high-G compressions. It's not hard to get the suspension right, and it's well worth the effort to spend a couple of rides experimenting with spring pressure and damping dials.

You'll find that sweet spot quickly if you concentrate on the bike's ride height in corners and punchy downhills. The O-ring told me that often ran through the rear suspension travel at speed, but I never experienced any ill effects or harsh bottoming. In fact, the chassis feels so composed that I never really thought about the bike most of the time I was riding it.

bigquotesWhat I liked about this bike, is that it tends to sew all the trail's features together. Easy or challenging, it found a way to make every downhill one seamless experience.

The Jekyll's best quality is that it does what you ask of it without any drama. It carries a lot of speed around corners and there's no surprises waiting when it drifts. It's a confident jumper and lands like a cat. The steering feels light in hand, and there's enough stopping power in reserve with its Code brakes and that 200-millimeter rotor up front to control your speed with minimal finger pressure.

If you desire to pump, pop, and shralp every meter of your trails, the Jekyll will happily play along, but
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the joy of its handling is more about flow. So often, "destroying the trail" is the accolade used to describe a top descender. By contrast, what I liked about this bike is that it tends to sew all the features together. Easy or challenging, downhills blended into one seamless experience.

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The Jekyll's suspension feels supple, and you'll use all 150 millimeters of it on a regular basis, but it the chassis stays composed and there is no penalty for bottoming it out.



How does it compare?

Scott's Genius 900-series gives us a rare opportunity to compare similarly spec'ed all-mountain/enduro bikes that share nearly identical technical features. They both are 29ers from vanguard bike brands. Both have a Fox-made dual-travel shock and both share the same, 150-millimeter suspension travels and 65-degree head angles. Performance wise, the two bikes should ride similarly, because on paper, they are so close. That said, the winner is the Cannondale Jekyll 29-1.

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Cannondale Jekyll 29
Scott Genius 2018 Launch
Scott Genius 900

Builds: For the high intensity riding styles these machines are touted for, only the Cannondale is a needs-nothing build. Cannondale's $6800 Jekyll 29-1 slots between the MSRP of Scott's Genius 900 and 910. The Cannondale has an aluminum rear section. The Scott 900 sports full carbon, while the 910 shares the Jekyll's aluminum tail end. Component-wise, Cannondale wins the battle with a SRAM XO1 Eagle drivetrain (Genius 910s are GX/XO1 hybrids). The Jekyll's Fox 36 fork trumps the Scott's 34 and while the Scott Nude shocks are based upon Fox's in-line dampers, Cannondale's Gemini is built around the more desirable Fox DPX-2 reservoir shock. Syncros wheels are one of the better house brands made, but the nod goes to the Jekyll's Stans Flow rims and more capable Maxxis Minion tires. Compare brakes and the Jekyll wins again with SRAM Code RSC versus Scott's choice of either Shimano XT or SRAM Guide RSC. Good news for both brands is they chose 200 millimeter rotors up front.

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Cannondale's Gemini control lever.
Syncros is part of the Scott Sports group which allows them to produce components to work with their bike models. The lock-on clamp for these grips also acts as a mount for the Fox Transfer dropper and the TwinLoc suspension levers.
Scott's TwinLoc remote lever

Performance: Both designs have 65-degree had angles, and corrected fork offsets. Reaches for medium sizes are stated a 441mm for the Jekyll and at 439mm for the Genius, while their seat angles are 75 and 74.5 degrees respectively. Scotts have an 11.5mm lower bottom bracket height, and shorter chainstays (438mm for the Genius and 442mm for the Jekyll). On the dirt, however the Cannondale feels noticeably more collected at speed and out corners the Scott by a noticeable margin. The Scott's rear suspension is less fussy to set up, but it never attains the Cannondale's deeper feel at full travel.

Climbing controls: Scott's TwinLoc remote suspension control affects both the fork and shock, has three modes and more ergonomically engineered lever. If you sprint out of the saddle often, Scott's TwinLoc is like the push-to-pass button on a Formula 1 car. Cannondale's Gemini system only affects the shock and its measure of pedaling firmness is far less dramatic. Climbing fast-paced smooth trails is the dominion of Scott, and if I pedaled any distance on prepared roads to access trails, I'd probably choose TwinLoc. On the dirt, however, Cannondale's Gemini offers twenty millimeters more travel in the short mode, and correspondingly more traction. I also like that the Gemini only has two options and that I could descend well enough in short travel mode. Less worries about being in the correct mode equals more fun.


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SRAM Code RSC brakes and clevis-type pivots.
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Thumbs up on the new frame design.


Technical Report

Real wheels: Hard to go wrong with aluminum Stans Flow rims and WT Maxxis Minion DHR and DHF rubber. Cannondale's choice to go with a race-proven wheelset was the right one.

Gemini remote system: Not a huge fan of handlebar clutter, and the Gemini lever is butt-ugly. That said, I came to enjoy the more upright saddle position and firmer pedaling while climbing.

New frame design: Two thumbs up for the Jekyl's more conservative chassis. It has a good balance between pedaling stiffness, with just enough give in the frame and wheels to erase the fatigue that the stiffer-is-better mentality has heaped upon us.

SRAM Code RSC brakes: The more I ride these, the more I wonder why SRAM didn't market their DH brakes to trail bike makers a long time ago.

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The new Jekyll is remarkably stable at speed.


Pros

+ Ready-for-anything build
+ Great flow going up or down
+ Big wheel roll-over without big wheel sluggishness
Cons

- May be too normal for vanguard riders
- Fussy shock tune
- Some may be put off by the Gemini remote


Is there a Jekyll 29-1 in Your Future?

Cannondale fans who have been waiting for the brand to modernize the suspension and handling of their top trail bikes will find more than they had hoped for in the the Jekyll 29's performance. Big wheels and the promise of a stable ride offer up a busload of confidence when speed meets technical terrain. Ratboy proves otherwise in his latest edits, but the no worries nature of the new Jekyll's handling may not capture the imagination of aggressive, slash and dash type riders.



Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesCannondale's Jekyll bucks trends in a different way, this time, with suspension kinematics and frame numbers that make fast-paced technical trail riding feel more intuitive and less like Anglo-American wedding dance moves. The Jekyll 29-1's planted feel is a cut above plowing through every feature. It doesn't short-change the experience, but it erases the insignificant details, so you can stay ahead of the bike more easily and concentrate on features instead. Its calm encourages a different riding style - one that's wickedly fast.
RC



218 Comments

  • + 191
 Are they serious with the Walmart lever on the top of the handlebar?
  • + 92
 There’s no bong mount either
  • + 21
 @WAKIdesigns:
Maybe they’ll throw one in when you purchase the new size wheels and forks to replicate the rats bike!
  • + 17
 @WAKIdesigns: can't wait to see how cool it looks with big reflectives on the wheels and pedals
  • + 2
 @jimoxbox: Don't encourage them. Isn't it a temporary setup?
  • - 8
flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 4, 2019 at 3:58) (Below Threshold)
 I want a new bike with Bong intwgrated into the downtube. Josh! Make it happen. Call it Cannondale Chuckle!
  • - 14
flag endurocat (Feb 4, 2019 at 4:23) (Below Threshold)
 They present this bike to make look the 27.5 version obsolete . And every 27.5 Jekyll out there just lost any chance of a decent resale value.
  • + 25
 @endurocat: As if any Cannondale has any kind of resale value to begin with. Oh hey let's buy a second hand bike with no warranty and a shock nobody can get spares for... from a brand notorious for frames that break.
  • - 20
flag pinnityafairy (Feb 4, 2019 at 6:13) (Below Threshold)
 What do you expect from a sellout ballistic fubar CracknFail co? Just more snail tracks from the Canofsnails.
  • + 10
 No worries. That wart will be first to go at next OTB.
  • + 15
 I got a Jekyll 27,5 and the lever is a regular Fox one,2 buttons and it work flawless. So that new thing,WTF is that?
  • + 5
 It is not even OTB compatible, what they were thinking?
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Maybe for a new e-bike, a Vulcano vap integrated in the bike and for those more traditional you can plug a lighter and put big ashtray in the bars. Cold beer would be the next big thing in bike frame industry this summer,just wait. E-bikes could be awesome,they only need more good ideas!
  • + 0
 I'd actually like to try a rear shock that allows you to change the air can size with a lever, but I want that lever to be on the shock body like the old tried and true propedal switch, not on the handlebar.

Anyone think thats do-able on this bike?
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flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 4, 2019 at 7:50) (Below Threshold)
 @homerjm: hahah E-Vape Big Grin
  • - 1
 Whats the point of dropping to 120 if you arent changing the geo?
  • + 0
 @owlie: It is definitely more gnar. We all want gnar, right?
  • - 1
 @owlie: to sell junk to suckers
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 @oldtech: Its like my old broken shapeshifter, except worse.
  • + 5
 @owlie: I woke up in the emergency room because of cannondale's ballistic Fubar carbon. It doesn't get much worse than that. I could have bought five bicycles for what the ER Bill cost.
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 @hamncheez: I think you need something to hold the lever on the body shock,cos only cable tension keep it close (short position). You can turn the little wheel by hand but you need to hold it.
  • + 5
 @oldtech: AAHHHH, I didn't need to freaking see that. What failed on the bike to cause all that???
  • + 8
 @Svinyard: upper carbon seat stay. I broke 2 ballistic Fubar Jekyll in the exact same spot. Cannondale left me hanging on the warranty both times. After the second one and waking up in the ER I will never ride another Cannondale as long as I live. I had been riding their bikes since the 80s. Truly a completely different company after the sell out. I used to love cannondale's. Now I love to pour gas on them and watch them burn.
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: there’s always room for a DANGLEBONG
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 @oldtech: Brutal!
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: handlebars are an 800mm chillum just waiting to happen. Just not carbon ones.
  • + 1
 @oldtech: holy hell! Really not carbon ones...
  • + 0
 @WAKIdesigns: If u run 27.5's you can e-tape a steamroller to the under side of the down tube
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flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 4, 2019 at 11:12) (Below Threshold)
 @BenPea: I just want to deliver Bongtrader droppers to the female Trek Factory Racing XC Team...
  • + 0
 @oldtech: Holy crap !
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: never go full Bill Cosby
  • + 0
 @jimoxbox: "The RAT Package" - includes worn-out grips, super-soft saddle, and BONG! finally!
  • + 0
 @oldtech: if the handlebar did that, maybe Trek's Knock Block system has some merit...
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 @motard5: I wonder about that as well. It seems like the wheel tends to cross up when I case a jump gone wrong...maybe that is a good idea. Perhaps it could turn an OTB into just a good rodeo that ends better.
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 @motard5: I don't believe in doing anything half-ass. If you need knock blocks you might as well step up to the plate and get a dampener. Half-ass fixes are for hacks and people missing the knowledge of what's available in the modern-day world.
  • + 0
 @BenPea: yes sir.
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flag WAKIdesigns (Feb 4, 2019 at 14:06) (Below Threshold)
 @BenPea: not even close.
  • + 6
 That Walmart lever has FOX stamped on it.
  • + 0
 #ExpressionsofStyle
  • + 2
 it's really not that bad in person. I still don't love it but it's totally livable and useful enough I' deal with it. Idk if PB has a pre-production version, or maybe just the way it's positioned, it looks terrible in the pic.
  • + 1
 @Coyotecrash: or get jammed in your leg and bleed you to death
  • + 1
 @Fix-the-Spade: HEY! I bought a used one once. Still going strong #LeftyForLife
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 @MuddyFoxCourierComp: Lefty for life? You sound like the guy that said "Ill always need three chainrings"
  • - 2
 How do I get down voted for that? Unless that lever is made from 90s plastic and snaps off at the lightest touch, it's an accident waiting to happen. I hurt myself loads going over the bars and smashing my legs and balls in to SIS levers.
  • + 1
 @MuddyFoxCourierComp: I owned a Prophet MX from 2006 to 2012, when it broke because I mashed it into a tree at great speed (I might have cried afterwards). But a great bike from 13 years ago doesn't mean much now.
  • + 1
 @Fix-the-Spade: that was a good old handmade in Pennsylvania USA Cannondale
  • + 0
 You are all upset cause you don‘t know how to drive stick!
  • + 0
 @oldtech: It was even better than that, it was a Siemens Gracia replica.
  • + 2
 @Fix-the-Spade: you again! Haha! The f-ing crack n fail thing! Do you ever say anything else? Is that all you ever do is post things about the time you read a Cannondale cracked 10 years ago?
  • + 0
 @blackthorne: Oh dear, somebody did their bussle up too tight didn't they. Have a sit down and a nice cup of tea, you'll feel better.
  • + 34
 "relatively short, 442 millimeter chainstays. " Wanna get burnt by the pinkbike crowd, RC ? ;-)
  • + 25
 Exactly. 442 is nowhere near relatively short. 442 isnt even relatively long. They're solidly long. Very few Enduro bikes have chainstays longer than that long.

Imagine riding a size small, with a 419 reach and 442mm "relatively short" chainstay.
  • + 2
 @dustysteve: Mmmmm I'd say they're long-ish, not straight up long...430mm seems to be about as short as you can go for full-sus 29ers
  • + 11
 @mnorris122: Pivot Switchblade has 428mm. 442 is (typical is around 435 today). Seems like PB is carrying water for Cannondale here...442 is long and no where near short.
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 @mnorris122: You can go shorter than that since the radius of a 29'' wheel is 368,3mm.
The problem lies in the fact that when the suspension compresses the wheel moves towards the seattube due to the low pivot designs we see nowadays.
When brands finally switch to highpivot desings they'll be able to spec shorter chainstays(maybe even 400mm).

@Svinyard: And the Kona Process is 425mm
  • + 12
 Finally someone made acceptable length chainstays. So annoying how all companies marketed short chainstays for so long. 442 is “relatively short” when talking about chainstays for people who actually ride quickly...
  • + 8
 “i CaN oNly RiDe cHaInsTayS tHaT ArE sHoRtEr tHaN 430”
  • + 2
 Yeti SB6 chainstay is 442, the new Yeti SB150 has a 433 chainstay length. These like the Jekyll 29" are Enduro race bikes, not trail/weekend warrior bikes.
  • + 27
 Is the rat going to turn this into a 650b?
  • + 52
 Jekyll & Hyde

29 front, 27 rear
  • + 3
 @RollinFoSho: business up front, party out back!
  • - 3
 Long shock it. Steepen the seat angle and increase the bb height a touch.
  • + 0
 @chyu: Not sure what's the next size up and also not how much the rear end moves when cornering. I suppose the gap between the seatstays tapers so you need to make sure seatstays don't hit the seattube when the suspension rebounds hard and compresses the top out bumper and also when the rear wheel makes and breaks traction in a rough corner. Then again, if you want to run a smaller wheel but don't want the geometry to change, do you really want the smaller wheel? I thought there would also be 27.5" model. That would be a better alternative then.
  • + 3
 Cannondale already has a 27.5" Jekyll.
  • + 0
 I'm already running my 29 Jekyll up forked and with 27.5 wheels. 13.4 bb. Excellent
  • + 23
 Longer travel and a Fox 40 and you have Cannondales new DH bike right there, damn I’ve said to much already.
  • + 45
 That means we finally get a DH bike with a bottle mount?
*Puts Enduro bike on ebay.*
  • + 40
 Because bottle mounts can magically make a DH bike climb like a goat*


*a three legged goat thats drunk.
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flag PauRexs (Feb 4, 2019 at 3:12) (Below Threshold)
 @Boardlife69: or can "magically" avoid to seriously crash for dehidration or cramps after full day/s of summer bike park...
  • + 3
 That would be an ungodly sight to behold! Then again, a friend of mine already has a Cube Hanzz with Fox 40s and it has a look to it....
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 @Boardlife69: Funnily enough I remember RHS at Bike Verbier doing 3 hour climbs on his Orange 224.
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 @PauRexs: No drink station at bottom of lift? Ghetto
  • + 13
 Richard, could the rear shock be easily configured to use a lever on the shock body to trigger the travel adjust instead of the remote?

Great review. Sounds like a kind of classic, get-the-job-done kind of bike that just disappears under you.
  • + 5
 Second this motion
  • + 1
 Or as an alternative, maybe some other locking lever could be used. A remotely adjustable seatpost lever doesn't lock, but a lock out lever for a shock or fork does. Or maybe just use a grip shift for the front mech.
  • + 1
 No I thought about this to but the remote is actually what has the index in it. So without the remote you can't get the spring loaded dial on the shock to stay closed.
  • + 1
 @jason114: Isn't it possible to remove the spring?
  • + 0
 Agreed. I had this feature on a few different bikes in the past. Reaching down to switch a lever is preferred over bar clutter.
  • + 13
 Applaud CD for innovation, but I hate to say it... these type of additional levers turn me away from considering bikes like this. I prefer a more simple is better design. Would rather have a more efficient suspension design than have to engineer around it. Might change my mind if I rode it, but on the surface, there are a lot of other options in this travel/price range I would start with first.
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 Yep, these days most suspension designs are so good that this kind of set-up is redundant and turns me off a bike. The normal DPX2's 3 position switch (open, medium, firm) is already fantastic and leaves your bar clean... messing with it is kinda stupid.

Honestly I think they're just looking for a way to make their bike look/seem different in a same/same.
  • + 1
 I wouldn't want the handlebar clutter, either. Does anyone know if it is possible to operate the Gemini shock with a lever on the shock itself?
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flag islandforlife (Feb 4, 2019 at 11:56) (Below Threshold)
 @sngltrkmnd: Yep, it's easy, you just buy a different bike with the DPX2 and use the open/medium/firm switch. Dropping the amount of travel is overkill and not needed.... works great. This comeback of proprietary custom shocks is exactly the wrong direction mtb should be heading in.
  • + 1
 @islandforlife: "Buy a different bike." Gee, thanks. Have a downvote.
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 @sngltrkmnd: I'm just saying... if you haven't already bought the bike, there are many just as good bikes, if not better, that don't force you into a silly proprietary shock. I wouldn't bother with it and look elsewhere, many amazing bikes out there with the regular and awesome DPX2.
  • + 1
 @islandforlife I personaly own this bike, granted it was Marco's bike and has a different switch but it really is not that bad and is super useful. Its nicer than a switch b/c you can activate it mid race run and not take your hands off the bars. This is not a weekend-warrior bike but a race bike.
  • + 0
 @TyBrenninger: aren’t all races on the weekend? I know mine are...
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 @islandforlife: most are but what I mean by a racer is not just someone who rides on weekends.
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 It still looks like it was originally designed for a pull shock, but was later converted to have a normal shock. I wonder why they didn't just redesign the whole thing when they got rid of the dyad.
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 Grabbing a bottle down there is also not convenient...
  • + 2
 I think they wanted to place the weight low. And as the full bottle is heavier than the shock, they put the bottle lowest. Would it be too hard to reach down there? I recall having practiced picking up stuff (like pylons, sticks etc) from the ground while riding and it was a nice challenge. But when it is on your bike it should be easier. Now I've got to admit I don't ride with a bottle but I've been watching bottle related videos here on Pinkbike and it appears people typically drink from it while chilling on a mountaintop or somewhere else epic, but not while riding. So for that crowd, I suppose it is good enough.
  • - 1
 @qreative-bicycle: that's what she said.
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 @qreative-bicycle: That's what she said.
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 They need to figure out how to integrate the dropper and climb switch so that when saddle is up it's 120 rear, down opens shock to 150. One switch to rule them all, right where the front shifter used to be.
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 @hamncheez: Nice! I figured someone thought of that first. Interesting proprietary post.
  • + 14
 Need to swap out a few bits????Just needs a coil shock, 27.5 wheels, 160 pikes and a full burgtec kit?
  • + 11
 What a wierd company.
The reach between L and XL increases by 25mm. Ok fair enough.
THE SEAT TUBE LENGTH INCREASES BY 60MM! 60!
What on earth could be the rationale for that?
Basically unless you have a 36" inseam or don't mind running a 100mm dropper you are stuck with the 463mm reach model.
Bizarre.
  • + 13
 The 29er bias on here these days is staggering, keep drinking the Kool Aid kids
  • + 3
 You’d think between here and Bike they could at least hire one guy who won’t cat call every 29er that rolls by their desk #WheelSizeAffirmativeAction
  • - 1
 Hey look ! Yet another 29ers
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 I think you're envious because you drank the 27.5 kool-aid too early
  • + 16
 Nobody under 8ft tall rides bikes anymore.
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 seriously tho when was the last time pinkbike reviewed a 27.5 trail bike? every day just another article of a model that now offers 29 inch wheels.
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 @nismo325: I would laugh my arse off if 27.5 went extinct before I replaced my 26er. And I would stop when I remembered my height.
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 @nismo325: And when they do they usually list in the comments that they wish it was a 29er
  • + 8
 @honda50r: I'm yet to be convinced (through some decent testing) that there's a 29er I prefer more than a 26 or 27.5.

Was 27.5 necessary over 26? Maybe not, but I'm still happier to ride it than any 29er so far.
  • + 9
 @nismo325, it was on January 21st: www.pinkbike.com/news/review-kross-moon-30.html. And at the end of December we reviewed the SC Bronson: www.pinkbike.com/news/review-santa-cruz-bronson-v3.html.
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 I'd love to hear an extended narrative of the malicious plot line people think is unfolding here. Like that the Illuminati are driving some mass conspiracy on wheels sizes as if they have time or care enough. Bike companies exist by selling s@#$, selling s#$% remains profitable from people buying s#$%, people with money buy s$%^ and the circle of economic life continues. At the moment 29ers sell and so do a few 27.5's. As a 6 footer with high hips and long legs I waited patiently for a 29 inch wheeled bike with the geometry I wanted and then dove in eagerly and was not disappointed. It sucks to see options fade away but I'm not certain there is some overarching malicious plot here being enacted by Pinkbike or bike companies. They are just the s#$% that is selling to people with the money to buy them at the moment is my guess- but it would be super exciting if I was wrong and there was some secret handshakes etc. going on...
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 @snl1200: don't be a drama queen. People who write for PB seem to prefer 29ers. That's all
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 @mikekazimer: nice. Seriously though, almost all new bikes are 29, so what are PB to do, rerun reviews of 2 year old bikes?
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 @Rubberelli: Many new bikes are also released in a 27.5 version at the same time, yet they're never tested over or even alongside the 29 version - sometimes it's not even mentioned (looking at you Stumpjumper Evo review)! That's the bias I think people are referring too.

Also, @snl1200 I don't think there's an underlying malicious plot, but definitely a movement to push everyone onto one wheelsize - and possibly using some dodgy reasoning to do it. How many times have we heard '29ers are faster' or more recently the conotation on Pinkbike reviews that 'this bike would be better if it was a 29er', yet guys like Sam Hill, Loic Bruni, and Martin Maes are proving that 27.5 is just as capable, and I've definitely read a few people who are reverting back to 27.5 for more agility and fun factor.

Again, have your 29er, but stop pushing them onto everyone!
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 Not sure they are being pushed so much as they just make up a lot the new bike offerings for the past year and those tend to be the bikes that get reviewed and sent to reviewers. But hey- ride what you like. It would be great if everyone's preferences were answered by bike manufacturers and it's unfortunate that some riders are currently feeling as though (and likely experiencing) that there are less options for them.
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 @NickB01: But most 27.5 versions are pretty much the same as the previous year's. The engineers worked on the 29ers and they changed the colors of the 27.5. So PB did review two actually new 27.5 models in the past month. Its possible the engineers then go work on 27.5s next (if sales warrant it) and then PB will be mostly reviewing those. As for the Stumpy, there are just too damn many of them. They reviewed the new 29 and the new Evo one as I recall. Didn't Bike just review the 27.5 in one of their Bibles and say it was pretty much just like riding the old Stumpy?
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 You can cut it a number of ways, in 2015 there was this massive move away from the status quo and lots and lots of marketing about how 27.5 was the future. So yea, a load of people went out and bought new bikes because of the hype, whilst others happened to need a new bike at the time and got what was said to be good at the time (mostly 27.5). Now it feels like we are quietly going to kill off 27.5 because designers have had time to make 29” bikes that don’t ride like a barn door. Add to this the hype that now surrounds them you can see why some people are a bit miffed (and are basically being told to put up and shut up). Almost like we collectively need to forget bike production between 2015 to 2017 every happened.

Doesn’t actually mean anything on paper, you can still ride your out of date 27.5” and will probably still be able to get wheels and tyres. Would nice if we could just settle on one thing though, rather than this weird half way house.
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 @commentsectiontroll: I wouldn't be so quick to say 27.5 will suffer the same fate as 26, since in these shootouts, PB's included, the new 27.5s are the favorite bikes by many of the reviewers. "We weren't expecting to like it as much as we did". That is in stark contrast about how reviewers and pro riders immediately embraced 27.5. My bet: they will like the coming mixers better rhan either one.
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 @Rubberelli: It literally says troll in his name. 27.5 isn't going anywhere and you prove the point of this thread with quotes like "We weren't expecting to like it as much as we did." Basically admitting they have already written off all 27.5 bikes as not being as good and are genuinely surprised when they are.
  • + 1
 @friendlyfoe: I actually said the exact opposite! I said the 27.5 bikes are being chosen as the favorite in shootouts from all kinds of media outlets.
  • + 1
 LoL i know. I referenced that you "proved the point of this thread" with your quote, which is that pinkbike has a personal bias against 27.5. Sorry for any confusion.
  • + 1
 @friendlyfoe: Can you leave my name out of this please, this troll has 3 27.5" bikes I will have you know
  • + 12
 Why a single pivot design when the new Habit is a Horst link ?
  • - 2
 Why do you think it should have a Horst link?
  • + 8
 Out of curiosity I built up a Guerrilla Gravity Smash with a similar build on their site for comparison. Both bikes are 29ers with carbon front triangles and aluminum rears and similar amounts of travel. With a better shock (Factory DHX2), better wheelset (DT XMC1501 carbon rims), carbon cranks, and more or less the same spec everywhere else, the GG comes in at $545 cheaper and still under 30lbs with a frame that's made in the US.

I know where my money would be going.
  • + 2
 I love the Smash and will definitely consider it for my next bike. The one thing I find about mass market vs. boutique bikes, though, is that it's often a lot easier to find a big brand bike on an end of the season discount at a bike shop and so get it way under retail. Guerrilla Gravity's much more compact supply chain is much less likely to overestimate demand (to my benefit).
  • + 0
 Right there with you, with the news from GG last week, this release/review is "meh".
  • + 10
 Cannondale and Scott, stubbornly sticking with "let's see how much crap we can put on the handlebars!"
  • + 9
 I don't know about you guys, but I've never been riding a bike and thought "hey this kinda feels like I'm doing some Anglo-American wedding dance moves"
  • + 3
 It's all about how you shake your rump. Jamaican dancehall moves get you down a trail like nothing else.
  • + 1
 Haha that phrase got me thinking about taking a spin on a prototype Rocky ETSX way back in the day. Phew - what a loosey goose!
  • + 7
 that remote....do you use it with your nose. It looks odd! Look a fun bike. I'd prefer to try out Josh's bike though. Prefer rockshox platform too...
  • + 4
 Cannondales UK warranty department are LEGENDARY at being complete arse's! Very nice bike, but unless there attitude changes to very dissapointed customers that have spent a fortune on one of there bikes then the brand can sink all the money in the world into PR. Crackandfail for a reason.
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 Haven’t we, in our collective PB wisdom, already established that any enduroish style bike with a head angle of more than 63 degrees, with less than Superman reach, and less than 80 degree seat tube angle is completely unrideable? And yet it seems to have been ridden to reasonably good effect - this review must have been sponsored by the the union of mountain biking dentists.
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 "In fact, the chassis feels so composed that I never really thought about the bike most of the time I was riding it."

"What I liked about this bike, is that it tends to sew all the trail's features together. Easy or challenging, it found a way to make every downhill one seamless experience."

"The Jekyll's best quality is that it does what you ask of it without any drama. It carries a lot of speed around corners and there's no surprises waiting when it drifts."

"The Jekyll 29-1's planted feel is a cut above plowing through every feature."

"the new Jekyll's handling may not capture the imagination of aggressive, slash and dash type riders."


Some interesting statements. RC is trying to imply something about this bike but the main thing I'm reading is that you have to run the shock soft or it sucks, and when you run the shock soft you have a dead bike that feels plush?
  • + 3
 I had a chance to ride both this bike and the 27.5 version at some local NW trails. The 27.5 I took to Stevens pass and rode all the downhill runs, it was sick! The 29 inch version I took to Tiger Mtn. and it felt very much like a different bike all together. It feels like a race bike and certainly handled well but was not much fun. Ditch the remote and just ride it open is what most guys are doing. Figureitout Cannondale!
  • + 1
 PNW has awesome climbing trails. It's great you can cruise to the top of Tiger on a fireroad or green. In many places we don't have that luxury and we have to ride up steep as balls trails to get to the good stuff. That's what the lever is for.
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 @dthomp325: I don't know about that. Steep as balls trails here in PNW are usually wet (or moon dusty), rooty, rocky affairs due to rain runoff down said steep slope. You don't want a stiff backend climbing that, you want a steep seat angle and lots of traction. The lever stuff is dumb (and I have a previous Jeykll still garage). A proper suspension platform is what they need, not gimmicky/proprietary nonsense.
  • + 1
 Cool back to back testing. Some quick questions out of curiosity. How tall are you? Do you own and ride a 29er today? I moved to a 29er last season and it was definitely an adjustment at first to ride, even as a 6-4 dude. That being said, it was just an adjustment and not a problem any more (aside from really tight turns). The way it carries speed and blasts over stuff is addicting even for a non-pro level guy like myself. Its like riding a horse that won't slow down. I like the stability it has in the air too, I can just launch stuff and it doesn't ever get squirrely...my whips are small and I'm not doing 360 stuff so stability is nice for me in the air. Again tho, it took me a couple of months to get used to riding it differently.
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 @Svinyard: Yes! Again, the normal open/firm/stiff switch on the DPX2 is more than enough... messing with it just ruins it.
  • + 1
 @Svinyard: Agreed with your assessment as well. This wheelie machine has no place in 2019.
  • + 2
 @Svinyard: I'm 6'2" and I ride a 29er. Most cannondales have too tall of a seatube which feels wrong when your going downhill. But I just rode a Habit, which has the same problem, and comparing the Habit to the Jekyll 29...Habit all the way.
  • + 3
 How long until they release a bike with the Prophet name again? They did it eith the Jekyll and the Rush. Bet the new DH bike is going to be called the Judge too. Gemini shock? The name makes sense at least.

The new Jekylls do look nice. The Trigger is actually exactly what I'd need if I ever get the ca$h to replace my Prophet. So go cannondale I guess. Let's see what that crazy British does for them. Always liked Ratboy even if I felt like I needed subtitles for his vids. Dumb Americans like me cant understand our own language apparently.
  • + 4
 They should bring back the Prophet as a new freeride bike
  • + 4
 @energetik I’m not sure they will make a prophet on this offering
  • + 5
 Who cares about the name? The 26" Jekyll filled the space of the Prophet, as does this bike. I would like to see a contemporary version of the Prophet though, or even of the previous Jekyll. Whatever it is called.
  • + 3
 I thought the Habit was kind of the new Prophet. And the way Josh assembled it turned into kind of a Prophet MX. Would love to see a single pivot bike from SC and Cannondale again (just because I like simplicity) but with the current trend of progressive rear suspension and coil shocks it becomes hard to achieve. Sure you can get a rising rate rear suspension by mounting the shock to the downtube (like Orange currently does, the C'dale Gemini, SC Bullit etc) but I'm not sure whether that is sufficient for modern day critics. That said, it is the only reason I think it would not happen.

I personally ride my hardtail most of the time but I plan to breeze new life into my old Prophet with a Superstar Slackerizer headset (bringing the head angle back to 65.5deg) and a new rearshock. I'm not great at measuring reach but I think it must be somewhere between 420mm and 440mm for a medium. That's good enough and right on par with the Habit. Not sure what shock to get though. Air seems most appropriate for the falling rate rear suspension but it seemed to have worked just fine with a coil shock too.

www.pinkbike.com/news/Cannondale-Prophet-4X-Review.html
  • + 1
 Bring back the Super-V!
  • + 2
 When I see bikes with adjustable travel, I always want to hear what they're like to ride on mellower downhill terrain. It seems to me that the big potential gain is that it could make them more active, poppy, fun for pumping, etc.. I basically never have issues climbing on my 150mm bike, but there are mellow trails where a tiny bit more responsive rear would make things more fun as I don't need it to soak up the rough stuff.

@richardcunningham Did you try the short travel mode for anything that wasn't climbing?
  • + 2
 If Cannondale wants to make a comeback...and yes, they need a comeback if they want to survive...ditch everything you did in the past, including the model names, and start over. Hell you can rip off any number of much better suspension designs now with patents expired, why stick with what is sh!ty. Stay relevant or die - capitalism will eat the weakest.
  • + 3
 Curious.. Could you run a vertical dropper lever and put the shock remote under the left bar? It would look like the Scott, but a lot cleaner looking than the above the bar remote..
  • + 1
 I own the 27.5 Jekyll. Hated the fugly shock remote and found it really awkward to use, especially when I’d forgotten to turn it back into ff while heading downhill. So changed it to a 2 speed gripshift. This has made the Gemini so much more usable.
  • + 1
 Dude, yes! Thats the way to tie everything thing together in the cockpit. I think Clementz used to do this on his bike.
  • + 1
 jekyll 3 were in my options but finally bought and slash 8, even if the trek is made of alloy, the specs were so much better and carbon is not something that turns my head, and the shock design is another con, another lever in my handlebar, please no!
Anyway, nice to see that cannondale improved the jekyll, worked on a cannondale store and it was nightmare trying to sell previous jekylls, now I´m not working there but it´s nice to see a lot of the new jekyll at my local trails
  • + 2
 "- May be too normal for vanguard riders" Normal?! Are we still talking about the same Cannondale brand?! And they SHORTENED the reach by 7mm? Hold the phone! What is HAPPENING? Razz
  • + 1
 You can mount Gemini lever on left side outside brake, and your dropper lever inside brake lever. I lightly trimmed and rounded off the outer lever of Gemini switch too. Also once upforked the bike rides amazing with 27.5 wheels..(if you prefer low BB's (about 13.3, rather than 14.2 when upforked)
  • + 2
 More 29er love from PB - yawn. Was the old bike really slow in compariosn? Will a Cannondale sponsored rider now win an EWS - its been a while since JC did that on the old bike.
  • + 2
 Yep. Over it.
  • + 1
 We're not allowed to talk about Cannondale enduro riders anymore, if you catch my drift.
  • + 2
 If this is meant to be Cannondales enduro race bike then surely it should be compared with the Scott Ransom, not the Genius. The Genius is a trail bike not their enduro sledge
  • + 4
 So if you’re gonna split the front and rear between carbon and alloy, it should just get the Smash
  • + 0
 I have a Cannondale Jeykle in the garage from a few yrs ago. Never again would I ever by a proprietary bike like this. Its so dumb and as the reviewer pointed out, kind of useless. Adds weight too. You really think this bike climbs better than an Ibis Ripmo with their silly switch? Definitely not and the STA is a bit slacker so it might climb even worse regardless of buttons. They'd be better off putting their R&D dollars into a high-end suspension instead of crappy shock non-sense.

Pinkbike, doing a comparision to only a single bike sucks. Come on, you guys ride most of the bikes. Compare to the good stuff. Mid-travel 29ers are the rage and there are a lot. Offering, Ripmo, Yeti SB150, Ferrazi La Sal, etc. It can't take that long to say "despite all of this extra proprietary non-sense...X, Y, Z bikes climb just as well and you'll never forget that the silly swtich is on". (I used to always forget that dang switch was on and thrash myself on the downs a bit).
  • + 1
 I never understand this. If carbon is stiffer, stronger, lighter, faster, better than why do manufacturers stick a metal back end on it. Tell you what let's make a bike with an metal front end and a carbon back end. Why not?
  • + 3
 @Matt76 Devinci Wilson
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 Sracen Aerial- It rode like shite.
  • + 11
 Diminishing returns. Smaller intricate cs in carbon with all the metal hardware that need fixing in aswell end up costing alot more time and money but weighing the same in bike grade carbon. And the short sections of alloy are easy to make cheap strong enough and robust. Carbon larger main frame tubes make more sense in terms of manufacturing, cost, time, strength weight tuneabilty ect
  • + 10
 Chainstays can be harder to make and require more QC than the main triangle since they are smaller and it is harder to put the weaving in and install the bladder without wrinkles, warping and excessive resin/ voids. Then the weight saving is minimal, and closer you get to the end of unsprung mass the less material is there (as seat/ chainstays are narrowing down towards the axle) so the less weight matters. Meanwhile small carbon tubes with smaller fillet radius are prone to damage from impacts. Quite simply, in most cases alloy is a better material for the rear triangle. Carbon only saves weight and in very few designs provides more stiffness if necessary. Not here though.
  • + 3
 Can we get a 27.5 review one of these days pinkbike? or do you have to show 29 to get the advertisement money?
  • + 0
 no. 27.5 is lame and should never have existed
  • + 1
 I'm wanting to pick one of these up later this year. Is there a way to mount that lever under the bars or an after market option that would work?
  • + 1
 RC does seem to love all of the Cannondales in these reviews. Is PB receiving unmarked envelopes stuffed full of greenbacks?

Hmm....
  • - 1
 What spacing hub is used with the offset swing arm? If it is the same 142 they’ve been using they missed the mark AGAIN. It was great clinging onto 142 the first year boost came around but now that the rest of the industry has fully adopted 148...
  • + 7
 definitely 148 boost AI. the internet is an excellent research tool for these questions
  • + 1
 So basically Cannondale Ai is Syntace EVO6. Doesn't Specialized do the same thing? They used to well over a decade ago. Even my singlespeed steel Specialized P1 dirtjump bike has a 6mm offset rear end. Fair enough as it was designed to also take gears if you wanted it to, but it was odd to find out on a singlespeed bike. Either way, that is Cannondale, Syntace and Specialized. There sure must be more. Cannondale is not as unique as they like to think (or claim) they are.
  • + 2
 @burshkadursh: Thanks. I've now used the internet to find the answer I was looking for!
  • + 4
 Dat lever!
  • + 4
 O, the fugly frame!
  • + 2
 I own Marco Osborne's (Randy) old bike and love. 29er Jekyll shreds. Such a great bike
  • + 1
 JEFFSY, is that you?

Hey Cannondale, Christopher Walken called, he wants his JEFFSY back.
  • + 2
 Are those pictures all taken in PQ?
  • + 1
 Lost the plot on the XL seat tube length, again. 60mm longer than the L is ridiculous!
  • + 2
 Shimano called, they want their 1989 thumpshifter back - or better not...
  • + 2
 that linkage looks like it will need replaced in a year or so
  • - 2
 Do people actually buy Cannondale’s? I know Ratboy rides one now so there is some circle of internet denizens who think they are cool but I’m pretty sure nobody has woken up in a sweat lusting for a Cannondale since the early 2000’s.

They are like a generic bike for a guy making between >100k Who knows nothing about mountain biking to walk in to a shop and buy in a whim because he thinks it will be fun.

“Now what about a bottle cage? And you will need CO2 and a multi tool too. That’s a fat bike. It’s pretty cool. Yep, we take AMEX”
  • + 0
 Exactly the same kind of customer who wants a 30x50 granny gear
  • + 0
 yeah...high performance huffy.
  • + 2
 That lever ???? looks like shimano in 90's, strip it down
  • + 1
 I thought we where done with the days of 14in BB heights. Not everyone wants a super low BB but that is way to high.
  • + 1
 Are those unsagged number? At 30-40% sag as per review, would be a different story no?
  • + 1
 @MrMJM3 Agreed. That was the first thing that caught my attention and on 29'er it will be very noticeable.

@beast-from-the-east I'm pretty sure for simplicity sake all numbers are measured unsagged.
  • + 2
 @hellbelly: ya that's what I'm saying. You would expect the unsagged BB height on a bike that rides at above-average sag to be above average (for same sagged BB height).
  • + 2
 @beast-from-the-east: It seems like an out of date choice IMHO. My bike's BB height is 339 mm. My previous bike's BB height was about the same as this C'dale. I never thought much about until I began riding my current rig. The difference in handling is staggering. I don't think I could ever see myself on a trail/AM/enduro bike with that kind of height again.
  • + 1
 @hellbelly: my only point is static unsagged BB height does not tell you much. Take two bikes, same unsagged BB, but running at 20% vs 35% sag. Real life sagged BB height will be quite different.
  • + 2
 I like the stab at the "new frame design" XD
  • + 1
 Does the rider catch many bugs in his mouth?
  • + 0
 Free mini-drone on every bar! Case the Rat getting lost...
  • + 0
 that Jekyll is sure a speckle
  • + 0
 Finally, a perfect holder, to fit my morning coffee!
  • + 0
 Would love to see a cannondale RAT without that lever!
  • + 1
 Well...
  • + 0
 Another great bike that I ll never have the money to buy. Great.
  • + 0
 Sideboard on that shock looks like a potential ball ache
  • - 3
 That hustle and flow travel adjust needs to die. I had the 27'5 Jekyll, ended up taking a hammer to the rear shock, what a waste of time it was.
  • + 0
 no alloy no deal
  • - 3
 Crackenfail
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flag pinnityafairy (Feb 4, 2019 at 8:50) (Below Threshold)
 Canofsnail
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 Where is the Lefty? I thought it was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO advanced? ;-)
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 it is better but you luddites love your backwards hick forks
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