Builds: For the high intensity riding styles these machines are touted for, only the Cannondale is a needs-nothing build. Cannondale's $6800 Jekyll 29-1 slots between the MSRP of Scott's Genius 900 and 910. The Cannondale has an aluminum rear section. The Scott 900 sports full carbon, while the 910 shares the Jekyll's aluminum tail end. Component-wise, Cannondale wins the battle with a SRAM XO1 Eagle drivetrain (Genius 910s are GX/XO1 hybrids). The Jekyll's Fox 36 fork trumps the Scott's 34 and while the Scott Nude shocks are based upon Fox's in-line dampers, Cannondale's Gemini is built around the more desirable Fox DPX-2 reservoir shock. Syncros wheels are one of the better house brands made, but the nod goes to the Jekyll's Stans Flow rims and more capable Maxxis Minion tires. Compare brakes and the Jekyll wins again with SRAM Code RSC versus Scott's choice of either Shimano XT or SRAM Guide RSC. Good news for both brands is they chose 200 millimeter rotors up front.
Performance: Both designs have 65-degree had angles, and corrected fork offsets. Reaches for medium sizes are stated a 441mm for the Jekyll and at 439mm for the Genius, while their seat angles are 75 and 74.5 degrees respectively. Scotts have an 11.5mm lower bottom bracket height, and shorter chainstays (438mm for the Genius and 442mm for the Jekyll). On the dirt, however the Cannondale feels noticeably more collected at speed and out corners the Scott by a noticeable margin. The Scott's rear suspension is less fussy to set up, but it never attains the Cannondale's deeper feel at full travel.
Climbing controls: Scott's TwinLoc remote suspension control affects both the fork and shock, has three modes and more ergonomically engineered lever. If you sprint out of the saddle often, Scott's TwinLoc is like the push-to-pass button on a Formula 1 car. Cannondale's Gemini system only affects the shock and its measure of pedaling firmness is far less dramatic. Climbing fast-paced smooth trails is the dominion of Scott, and if I pedaled any distance on prepared roads to access trails, I'd probably choose TwinLoc. On the dirt, however, Cannondale's Gemini offers twenty millimeters more travel in the short mode, and correspondingly more traction. I also like that the Gemini only has two options and that I could descend well enough in short travel mode. Less worries about being in the correct mode equals more fun.
Maybe they’ll throw one in when you purchase the new size wheels and forks to replicate the rats bike!
Anyone think thats do-able on this bike?
www.pinkbike.com/photo/12345325
Imagine riding a size small, with a 419 reach and 442mm "relatively short" chainstay.
The problem lies in the fact that when the suspension compresses the wheel moves towards the seattube due to the low pivot designs we see nowadays.
When brands finally switch to highpivot desings they'll be able to spec shorter chainstays(maybe even 400mm).
@Svinyard: And the Kona Process is 425mm
29 front, 27 rear
*Puts Enduro bike on ebay.*
*a three legged goat thats drunk.
Great review. Sounds like a kind of classic, get-the-job-done kind of bike that just disappears under you.
Honestly I think they're just looking for a way to make their bike look/seem different in a same/same.
The reach between L and XL increases by 25mm. Ok fair enough.
THE SEAT TUBE LENGTH INCREASES BY 60MM! 60!
What on earth could be the rationale for that?
Basically unless you have a 36" inseam or don't mind running a 100mm dropper you are stuck with the 463mm reach model.
Bizarre.
Was 27.5 necessary over 26? Maybe not, but I'm still happier to ride it than any 29er so far.
Also, @snl1200 I don't think there's an underlying malicious plot, but definitely a movement to push everyone onto one wheelsize - and possibly using some dodgy reasoning to do it. How many times have we heard '29ers are faster' or more recently the conotation on Pinkbike reviews that 'this bike would be better if it was a 29er', yet guys like Sam Hill, Loic Bruni, and Martin Maes are proving that 27.5 is just as capable, and I've definitely read a few people who are reverting back to 27.5 for more agility and fun factor.
Again, have your 29er, but stop pushing them onto everyone!
Doesn’t actually mean anything on paper, you can still ride your out of date 27.5” and will probably still be able to get wheels and tyres. Would nice if we could just settle on one thing though, rather than this weird half way house.
I know where my money would be going.
"What I liked about this bike, is that it tends to sew all the trail's features together. Easy or challenging, it found a way to make every downhill one seamless experience."
"The Jekyll's best quality is that it does what you ask of it without any drama. It carries a lot of speed around corners and there's no surprises waiting when it drifts."
"The Jekyll 29-1's planted feel is a cut above plowing through every feature."
"the new Jekyll's handling may not capture the imagination of aggressive, slash and dash type riders."
Some interesting statements. RC is trying to imply something about this bike but the main thing I'm reading is that you have to run the shock soft or it sucks, and when you run the shock soft you have a dead bike that feels plush?
The new Jekylls do look nice. The Trigger is actually exactly what I'd need if I ever get the ca$h to replace my Prophet. So go cannondale I guess. Let's see what that crazy British does for them. Always liked Ratboy even if I felt like I needed subtitles for his vids. Dumb Americans like me cant understand our own language apparently.
I personally ride my hardtail most of the time but I plan to breeze new life into my old Prophet with a Superstar Slackerizer headset (bringing the head angle back to 65.5deg) and a new rearshock. I'm not great at measuring reach but I think it must be somewhere between 420mm and 440mm for a medium. That's good enough and right on par with the Habit. Not sure what shock to get though. Air seems most appropriate for the falling rate rear suspension but it seemed to have worked just fine with a coil shock too.
www.pinkbike.com/news/Cannondale-Prophet-4X-Review.html
@richardcunningham Did you try the short travel mode for anything that wasn't climbing?
The BB is a little higher, but I have way less pedal strikes, which had been a positive.
Unless your riding double black runs at Whistler, I’ve never felt the higher BB to be an issue. Climbs well and use the flow mode for XC ish days and Climbing. Live in Port Moody BC and we have steep trails with lots of rock rolls, wood features and big roots. Classic BC riding.
Overall very happy with the bike.
Anyway, nice to see that cannondale improved the jekyll, worked on a cannondale store and it was nightmare trying to sell previous jekylls, now I´m not working there but it´s nice to see a lot of the new jekyll at my local trails
Pinkbike, doing a comparision to only a single bike sucks. Come on, you guys ride most of the bikes. Compare to the good stuff. Mid-travel 29ers are the rage and there are a lot. Offering, Ripmo, Yeti SB150, Ferrazi La Sal, etc. It can't take that long to say "despite all of this extra proprietary non-sense...X, Y, Z bikes climb just as well and you'll never forget that the silly swtich is on". (I used to always forget that dang switch was on and thrash myself on the downs a bit).
Hmm....
@beast-from-the-east I'm pretty sure for simplicity sake all numbers are measured unsagged.
Hey Cannondale, Christopher Walken called, he wants his JEFFSY back.
They are like a generic bike for a guy making between >100k Who knows nothing about mountain biking to walk in to a shop and buy in a whim because he thinks it will be fun.
“Now what about a bottle cage? And you will need CO2 and a multi tool too. That’s a fat bike. It’s pretty cool. Yep, we take AMEX”