Scott Launches New Ransom Enduro Bike

Aug 27, 2018 at 10:52
by SCOTT Sports  

PRESS RELEASE: Scott Sports

The Ransom is the long travel all mountain bike to rule them all. From stage racing at the highest level to traversing the world’s most demanding mountains, this bike was designed to help you ride like you never have before.


When designing the Ransom, speed was a topic that was always at the forefront of discussion. What can be done to make sure that this bike will not only be fast but also to make sure that it performs at speed? In addition to carbon construction, several details were put in place to make sure that you can forget about the bike as you fly down the mountain.


On the Ransom, you'll find the all-new Fox Nude TR Evol. What the TR allows you to do is to select what sort of progression you would like in Descend mode: more linear, or more progressive. By flipping the Ramp Adjust Lever, you can decide how your shock behaves while descending.


A more linear shock gives a rider the same amount of support throughout a shock’s travel. The suspension is supple throughout and is “easier” to reach the end of the travel. A more progressive shock will offer more support towards the end of travel and is harder to bottom out. These settings are really linked to riding speed. When it is wet, techy, or when impacts are small and riding tends to be slower, one might favor the more linear setting. When the conditions are dry and fast, or when bigger impacts are in play (jumps for instance), then the progressive mode is ideal. With the Nude TR Evol, choosing and changing is easy.

Linear mode

This is similar to other systems where you have to take the shock apart to put spacers in, but in this case, just flip a switch. Once you select the more linear mode or the more progressive mode, then you still benefit from everything that the TwinLoc Suspension System has to offer when switching to Traction Control mode, and eventually Lockout.

Ramp mode

While we also find the TwinLoc Suspension System on our XC and trail bikes, it is just as important on a long travel All Mountain/Enduro bike. Firstly, for big days out in the mountains, you can never be quite sure what you’ll encounter. While a 170mm MTB is great for descending, it needs to be a good climber if you’re going to enjoy the full day. The Ransom can climb perfectly well in Descend mode, but with the flick of the thumb, it performs with the efficiency of a lightweight XC bike – this is invaluable for saving energy throughout the day.

Switching into Traction Control mode also changes the dynamic geometry of the bike, raising the BB and putting you into a more comfortable climbing position. Traction control makes the bike more agile and nimble. This is perfect for quick accelerations or sudden changes in the trail that force you to put the hammer down, whether mid-all-day epic or mid-race. Should you encounter and steep gravel climbs, or smooth riding between trailheads, throw it into our Lockout mode to make sure you’re getting the most out of each pedal stroke.

Similar to the Genius, the Ransom can fit both wheel sizes on the same frame. Switching from 29" to 27.5" is easy, just flip a chip on the linkage, swap the wheels and you're good to go.


The Ransom has 170mm of travel front and rear, modern, progressive geometry and weighs in at only 2650g/5.84 lbs for the frame, shock and hardware – a leader in its class.


bigquotesHaving ridden the Ransom extensively for some time now, I have to admit that I am surprised day after day by how capable it is. I raced downhill for nearly 15 years, and never thought that I would be able to reach similar speeds on a 170mm Enduro bike. This thing is just pure speed, pure fun.Andrew Neethling

PROTECTION
Protecting the Ransom’s frame was an integral part of the project. We’ve integrated a clever DT protector under the BB and along the downtube, and have also implemented a newly developed, noise- silencing Chainstay/seatstay protector. A quiet ride is a fast ride.

SEAT ANGLE & POSITION
Naturally, the geometry of the bike was selected to accompany the type of riding it is intended for. With 170mm of travel, this unique 29er has a geometry that will get you to the top comfortably and then back down faster than ever before. Long, slack and stable at speed, this rig can tame any descent. However, we didn’t want to cut any corners with regards to seat angle or position. Where we live, big days involve plenty of climbing, and we think it’s important that climbs can be as fun as the downs – proper climbing position is essential to that.

CABLE ROUTING
We wanted to work on an intelligent solution for internal cable routing. We wanted to reduce exposure of cables below the BB.

TIRE CLEARANCE
The Ransom also places a big emphasis on tire clearance. You can run either 27.5” or 29” tires on the Ransom, with the former allowing up to 2.8” tires and the latter allowing up to 2.6” wide. To switch from one wheel size to the next, all you have to do is flip the chip on the linkage, swap wheels and you’re good to go! Speaking of choice, we’ve made sure that the Ransom has enough clearance for a variety of piggyback shocks should that be your fancy.

HIXON IC 1.0 RISE
In conjunction with the Ransom release, for 2019 we’ve expanded our much lauded lightweight Hixon integrated bar and stem combo that debuted on the Genius to include a wider and higher rise for the extra demands of the All-Mountain / Enduro rider. We boosted the rise up to 20mm to allow for the higher position favored by such riders and our full Hixon integrated cockpit range is now available in an 800mm width allowing the option to run it at 800, 780 or 760mm width. The Hixon iC Rise bar features a 6-degree upsweep and 8-degree back- sweep. The Ransom comes specced with a 50mm virtual stem length but the bar is also available in a 40mm virtual stem length.


There are 5 models of Ransom available. We have the Full Carbon Tuned in both 27.5" and 29" options, a Hybrid version with a Carbon Front Triangle and alloy rear end - the 910, and two full alloy models, the 920/720 and the 930.


The 900/700 Tuned bike retails for €7,499.00, the 910 is €5,499.00, the 920/720 is €3,799.00, the 930 bike will be €2,999.00.




For more information head to our website.


MENTIONS: @SCOTT-Sports



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260 Comments

  • + 77
 How come the genius/ransom don't seem to run piggy back shocks? Been plaguing me for sometime now
  • + 71
 tbh I have always seen Scott too worried about weight in all their nonDH bikes.. its like there is a dominant XC guy in house calling the final shots...
  • + 25
 No piggy is still better than the previous proprietary shocks :s (equalizer=s***)
  • + 13
 The Genius looks like an awesome bike but the Twinloc is really useless and take a lot of space on the handlebars plus adds cables. The silly thing is that you can't even remove it, you have to buy a new fork cartridge.
  • + 26
 @Whipperman: yes when Scott release a new AM/EN bike it feels like they always choose to go with silly XC tech. The market has heavily shifted form that a few years back with long low slack bikes, burly wheels and tires and DH tech everywhere. Going with no piggyback shock and dual lock suspension just feel like the guy who design those bike is a XC rider that has no clue. Maybe dual lock on the new gambler too ? Lol
  • + 39
 @Whipperman: Not exactly true. You can remove the Twinloc remote and shifter cables from the front fork and rear shock and leave the suspension open at all times. Or you can buy a $25 pulley cap from FOX with a standard 3 way position cap so you can change the setting yourself via your hand.

Brendog and Remi both prefer to not use the Twinloc while Nino and Neethling will opt to ride with the Twinloc depending on the terrain.
  • - 13
flag Kramz (Aug 31, 2018 at 5:45) (Below Threshold)
 @Lagr1980: I find it almost laughable they try so hard to shave grams off their bicycles. Do the math, 200 pound guy, 30 pound bike, 13 percent, 200 pound guy, 25 pound bike, 11 percent. Buddy should just go to the bathroom before he rides.
  • + 37
 @Whipperman: have you ridden a Twinloc? I have it on my Genius and use it all the time. It makes a lot of difference and Ifind it useful on climbing and commuting to trailheads.

The bike looks awesome. I was wondering how come Scott wouldnt have a real enduro bike in the lineup, since Genius LT didn't seem to be too popular, and the standard Genius doesnt cut it as a race bike for enduro. Now they have one, and it is a beauty.
  • + 99
 How's about we all try to read the article before critiquing:
"Speaking of choice, we’ve made sure that the Ransom has enough clearance for a variety of piggyback shocks should that be your fancy."
  • + 5
 @Whipperman: you can remove the top cap on the fork and replace it with a standard dial, it's just the Nude shock that cannot be changed. I've ridden just with the rear Twinloc and it really does work a treat for me, I race Enduro and it's brilliant being able to change to 90mm of travel on the ups rather than 130mm.
  • + 5
 @Lagr1980: In this particular case it's not about keeping the weight low. Scott believes in their Twinloc remote and having a piggy back on the rear shock is not compatible with their Twinloc. This is the sole reason why they have never released a bike with a rear shock like the X2.
  • + 4
 can someone kindly explain to me what's the advantage of a piggy back shock? (i mean in the trails, not in paper)
  • + 4
 @jorge269: more control over damping and better heat management. Basically better for charging long rough descents
  • + 1
 They can now.
  • + 2
 @Whipperman: Not true, just a top assembly.
  • + 2
 @Balgaroth: That is probably the point. If I wanted a 160mm bike that I could stick on a lift- any bike is an option. When you pedal to the top, you tend to scrutinize a bit more.
  • + 1
 @Kramz: I feel the same way. Its just like my car racing days. People did everything they could to gut 10lbs off a car but they wouldn't try to lose any weight of their beer drinking bodies.....lol
  • - 5
flag harrybrottman (Aug 31, 2018 at 9:59) (Below Threshold)
 @zachr: Brendan faircloth and all the factory guys do not run “twinlock” etc
  • + 9
 @Whipperman: I've got 6000+ miles on a Scott Spark, and can tell you twinloc is not useless, in fact it's amazing! I suppose if you're not racing then it's not as important though.
  • - 2
 @ratedgg13: yeah but "a variety of piggyback shocks " sounds like "hey, 2 of the most popular piggyback shocks fit on this bike but most don't, so we are just going with a cryptic marketing sentence instead of saying it clearly".

So i'm curious which shocks don't fit and which do
  • + 5
 @zede: Great move making it compatible with both wheel sizes. Not feeling the sewage brown colored frame but could deal with the green/black.
  • - 12
flag Balgaroth (Aug 31, 2018 at 13:51) (Below Threshold)
 @JJBend591: exactly that's the whole problem ! Twinlock is probably great to XC ride on gravel roads and play weigt weinnies but we are talking enduro here where what matters is going down and being able to somehow climb the hills.
  • - 20
flag Balgaroth (Aug 31, 2018 at 13:54) (Below Threshold)
 @b1k35c13nt15t: who said anything about lifts ? My enduro bike is setup with DH casing tires, proper rims and good suspension, couldn't give a fu*k about how much it weight as either way it's gonna be lighter than the Stinky Deelux I was pedaling up the hills in 2004 so light and twinlock is good for snowflakes or XC guys that want to see how it feels to actually do some Mtb.
  • + 7
 Sub 6lbs 170mm frame, the more I look at this frame I feel like this is the future. Compatible with multi sized wheels, and pretty sure I could get this sub 30lbs.
  • + 1
 @Lagr1980: Yeah, his name is N1NO.
  • + 3
 look at that first picture - and tell me why can't fox make forks, shocks, and seatposts with the same colour of stanchion. That's been plaguing me for sometime now
  • + 0
 It is compatible with piggyback shocks, so if you feel like you want to drop another £500 on a brand new bike you just stumped up £5000 for, and go to the hassle of selling the old shock, you're free to do so! Thanks Scott!
  • + 0
 @jaame: no, it is compatible with "a variety of piggyback shocks".
  • + 2
 Gimme that freaking bike you crumbumb turtleheads!
  • + 1
 @alexhoward91 totally agree. To me, it wouldn’t matter if it’s available to fit an aftermarket option, that’s at least another $500 upgrade then. I’m sure the bike rides great, but every in line shock I’ve run overheats on the long downhills near me. I’ll put up with it on an xc bike, but at this much travel, come on.
  • + 2
 Wondering what a boxxer would look like on this frame????? Super D anyone
  • + 1
 @tincancharlie: the finish is different depending on how its used. fork shock and seatpost have different needs. its just how kashima coating is. tbh performance series are nearly as good yet all the same black if you care
  • + 0
 @bankz: interesting. I guess that's why you never see the dark brown on the fork but it's often that color on the shock.
  • + 1
 Spot on there winner! @luis-beri:
  • + 2
 You can fit a coil or Piggy back shock to the Ransom Smile
  • + 43
 Why should I lockout my fork while climbing?
This gives me a worse climbing position than if only the back was locked out and the fork was sitting a little into its travel
  • + 16
 Having a linear setting on a full Enduro bike makes no sense. Also with no reservoir on the shock, things are going to get hot!
  • + 10
 you sir know what you are talking about.. on technical climbing though...
  • + 13
 Probably 'out of the saddle' climbs (If I don't lock mine out it bobs when putting the power down)
  • + 2
 Coming from Mars 55 had best of both words lockout at 40% of travel. Something to be said for a super sturdy front end though especially if rear is locked out too.
  • + 0
 U no likey coil? @endurocat:
  • + 24
 @endurocat: I rode this bike for 3 days in Lenzerheide in July. Most of it with the shock in the progressive setting and the bike rode really well (including claiming a KOM from the locals)! On the 3rd day, curiosity had me flip to the linear setting - I actually preferred the way bike rode in linear mode. I'm no engineer, nor a suspension guru - but, I can ride a bike and know how to set them up. For me, having the option to switch between modes 'on the fly', with noticeable changes, is a great feature!
  • + 4
 there are three positions. Middle one is just firmer front and rear for snappier feel on trail and less technical climbs or sprinting. Full lockout just for paved roads.
  • + 1
 Paved/gravel transfers
  • + 10
 @endurocat: Don't forget that a lnear shock is only part of suspension design. If the bike linkage already has a progressive curve, a linear shock could be a better choice than a progressive shock. The shock progression is only part of the design. What happens is:

Linear linkage + Linear shock = Linear suspension
Progr linkage + Linear shock = Progr suspension
Linear linkage + Prog shock = Prog suspension (but you need a more $$ shock)
Prog linkage + Prog shock = Super Prog suspension (maybe too much progressive, no good too)

The lack of reservoir is the strange part, I think too.
  • + 6
 @Hellchops: Specially if you are a top enduro racer. I mean you always have 3/4 stages at least... and there is always one is super steep or either quite flat... I was wondering why no one didn´t come up with this yet... I do not care about the pedal platform when the suspension system allredy pedals well... but I always was missing this... hope other brands will recieve this technology too...
  • - 11
flag CaptainSnappy (Aug 31, 2018 at 9:14) (Below Threshold)
 @endurocat: X2's don't have a reservoir and they ain't shit.
  • + 8
 @Hellchops: I completely agree with this! Just switched to coil on my Reign for a trip to whistler, I opted for a spring weight that put me into 30-33% sag, at the start fo the holiday it was very dry, soaked her all up but very quickly found the limits. However, last few days we have been tackling the techier trails in the wet, and its been able to provide me with confidence as you bobble and plop between tight, technical Rooty/rock sections. Sometimes its nice to have the adjustability. Not all of us are professional athletes, so we shouldnt all have it pumped up Aaron Gwin style! sometimes we are better with something that is tailored to our riding... not our egos?
  • + 3
 Position 2 of Twinloc does almost exactly what you're describing. It shortens the rear wheel travel and puts the fork into threshold lockout mode. I found myself mostly climbing in that position, not full lockout.
  • + 3
 @endurocat: linear setting actually do make sense. If you don't huck or do big freeride jumps, linear suspension combined with a slight higher pressure is the best setting you can ride on roots, rocks and fast technical trails.
  • + 2
 In the middle setting it also reduces the air volume of the rear shock. The bike sits higher in the travel in the rear increasing B.B. height and keeping head angle and seat angle strep for a better climbing position. It works really well for flowy pedally trails too. @Lasse2000:
  • + 2
 @bashhard For serious (XC) climbers, front lockout is key for efficiency. For seated, paced climbs—lockout is pretty insignificant.
  • + 1
 @High-Life: yea, when I see people asking why you would want to lock your fork out it makes me cringe...
(Spandex wearing xc guy here..)
  • - 3
 @forrequi: A progressive linkage will push more shock at the end of its travel and feel horrible. What you actually mean is Regressive linkage that pushes less shock at the end of the stroke and will then 'feel' more progressive.
  • + 1
 That Hixon bar/stem is pimp as shit!
  • + 1
 Because when you stand up to pedal the loss of power is relevant. Lock outs are there for a reason. Nice to keep both hands on the bars to hit it whenever it benefits
  • + 1
 The only time I would give up traction and lock suspension out is on a 2 mile fireroad climb. Luckily we have these things called chairlift. For punchy steep up and down tech trail, lock what out.
  • + 31
 Does the Privateer get one?
  • + 7
 Privateer Season 1: Improving the rider
Privateer Season 2: Improving the bike
  • + 22
 I don’t understand the reason for the integrated bar/stem, unless they make a virtual stem length that is shorter than what is possible with a conventional setup (which they are not doing). You give up the ability to adjust bar roll for what? It’s probably a few grams lighter and has a unique look... doesn’t seem worth it.
  • + 10
 Lighter weight, looks cool. End of story.
  • + 7
 Lighter weight, stronger. It's one piece rather than needing something to connect two parts together, so it's vastly stronger for the weight it sits at. Seems worth it for the people buying a bike at that pricepoint.
  • + 5
 reduces options, too. You'd have to get a new bar AND stem to change stem length or bar shape. I never considered some people thinking it looks cool. I think they look hideous.
  • + 1
 I’m sure for the right person (reach, roll etc. . . ) that bar stem combo is totally awesome. Lighter, stronger because there’s no bolt to face plate interface, looks cool. But yea I have to agree, I like having the ability to fine tune the feel of my bar, even down to the flex and vibration frequency so I will take a hard pass on that. Probably find a few of em on PB classifieds in a few months.
  • + 9
 As someone who owns a Hixon and is pretty heckin' happy with it, I think this is firmly a "this isn't for you" product. The weight is insanely good, they're a good level of compliant without being flexy feeling, and the price is in line with a high end bar and stem in Canada.

This was never a product for the masses, so it is a little weird to see on a complete bike, but it is the ultimate bar stem combo.
  • + 2
 Agree. It looks cool (sort of), but costs way too much.
  • + 1
 Would you buy an integrated seat/seatpost and give up the ability to adjust the seat angle to gain the strength, weight loss, less hardware, looks, etc.? Serious question.
  • + 1
 It is more aero
  • + 1
 @sherbet: lighter stronger expensiver :-)
  • + 13
 Biggest problem i have is the spec that matches my needs and budget is the colour scheme i don't like, only the top spec orange is really nice, the green and black is ok but doesn't have the good shock, wish brands would stop using nicer paint jobs to make you up spec. its like they deliberately make the cheaper bike look horrible.
  • + 15
 Personally I like the green and black model with the Yari best.
  • + 1
 @dingus: yer as i say that ones not bad, would probably have that colour but that model doesn't have the fox shock which means no nude and no traction control and i think that a good shock is very important for the performance of a bike so that rules it out as thanks to the twinloc stuff its not so easy to swap it for a better shock without loosing that.
Just want some colour options, is it so much to ask, it would make finding a bike with a spec that suits and looks i like so much easier.
  • + 1
 @maglor: still get traction control, just not the ramp on the bottom two models. Which is a bumber
  • + 12
 I’ve been on the 2018 genius this year and it shreds. No issues with the shock being upside down, the twinlock lever is now under the bars and is integrated with the dropper lever you barely even notice it compared to the previous versions. For those of you that doubt having the twinlock and or remote system why are so many companies putting remote systems on now? That’s right, because they f*cking work. Undoubtedly the new ransom will be fun, looking forward to seeing them in the US
  • + 10
 Amen brother! TWIN LOC IS THE SHIT! You don't need 170mm of travel when the trail isn't nasty and steep. Having the option to firm it up makes trails that are more flowing and smooth more fun.
  • + 0
 @JJBend591: you can also just get the remote lockouts from fox if you spec your own no Scott bike. just as good as twinloc. i never grt why more people dont do it. remote lockouts, from scott or otherwise are great
  • + 1
 @bankz to clarify no other remote system changes both compression and damping at the same time. Only twinloc does that. Everyone else’s remote controls only compression, making the shock firmer, but the damping remains the same. This is why you only get the raised bb from the Scott/twinloc.
  • + 11
 Waterbottle? Check. Lightweight? Check. Longlowslack? Check. Both Wheel sizes? Check. Carbon everywhere? Check. Dammit!

Life in the internet gets boring when everybody makes everything right.

*edit* wow, the bike looks planted in the vid. Backwheel keeps traction while locked all the time. Impressive! And Ramp Control for adjustements depending on weather seems good and easyer than tokens.
  • - 1
 Would rather a bike that is built properly instead of one that is light weight, Its a 170mm 29er its going to be ridden HARD. the genius uses bushings in the susp linkages, aparenty save weight, why would they do that ...
  • + 1
 @Lasse2000 the older genius LT were also Checking everything at the time, except that people were cracking the frames all the time because these were long travel XC bikes sold as trail/AM/enduro/whateveryoucall it bikes.
  • + 1
 100kg here. Would prefer a remote reservoir for that damper. But otherwise looks pretty sharp. Dig that ramp control.
  • + 5
 The ransom has bearings in the rear end. The 2019 version of the Genius received an upgraded rear ended with bearings as well. @zyoungson:
  • + 3
 @zede: To be honest I'd bet $$$ that the majority of those early frame failures were due to people leaving the shock locked or in traction mode instead of switching it back open before hitting some downs. Now people are used to lockouts/levers...

My $0.02
  • + 1
 @Verg: Good to know.
  • + 1
 @Lasse2000 HAHA. I know, every bike is so dope it's getting kind of boring.
  • + 15
 Yeti: Hey, check out our new bike. It's enduro AF!

Scott: Hold my beer.
  • + 8
 Normally don't want to share links others can find but here's an actual test from Ticino Switzerland. Marco is a good climber and descender riding the Scott in pretty rocky tough trails. Shredded a EXO tire (not too surprised there). Found the twinloc wasn't needed often but when he did switch it on twinloc was quite a marked (good) difference on some climbs. Found it to capable

www.mtb-mag.com/en/tested-the-return-of-the-scott-ransom
  • + 7
 @SCOTT-Sports Please fire whoever is responsible for the colours of the lower spec models. Cmon, brown? Nobody wants diahrrea as their frame colour.

Love the bike apart from that.
  • + 11
 “Nobody wants diahrrea as their frame colour.”

Maybe that is to remind you to go to the bathroom before each ride. According to Pinkbike comments, that is the preferred method to offset additional bike weight.
  • + 7
 No way , the Santa Cruz crowd love “hearing aid brown”
  • + 4
 You'd lose your bike in the mud.
  • + 1
 honestly I think the all root beer brown one is dope. The two tone brown and tan one not so much lol
  • + 8
 Great Scott, what a good looking bike!
  • + 0
 What a beaming joke! Wink
  • + 2
 Janet!!!
  • + 1
 You should all be ashamed.
  • + 2
 @High-Life: why? The comments have been nothing short of genius
  • + 5
 "We didn’t want to cut any corners with regards to seat angle or position...proper climbing position is essential to that"...They obviously missed this memo with the Spark. I've ridden recumbents with steeper seat angles.
  • + 3
 it's a mystery why brands keep doing this. as a tall guy, this bike is completely off my radar. Fortunately several brands are finally starting to take notice... Transition, Pole, Guerrilla Gravity, Fezzari, etc.
  • + 6
 Nice bike, just ditch this XC twinlock thingy and install a good shock. With this geometry the bike is going to be a good climber already, no need to make it an XC goat
  • + 6
 Nice bike. Shame about the colours on the lower end specs. Brown, brown and beige is petty disgusting.
  • + 2
 Santa Cruz would disagree. At least these are two-tone.
  • + 3
 Wow a bike of substance , no blind pivot mountings ( bad engineering ) , and an attempt to keep weight down . Any body can spec a Chinese frame and make a bike brand , getting it light is the hard bit. But it seems a lot of punters don't mind heavy as long as it's cool
  • - 2
 I like my 32 pound bike and my strong legs.
  • + 7
 @RideTahoe707: get a light bike go faster and longer with your strong legs
  • + 9
 @RideTahoe707: I like my 28 pound bike and my strong legs!
  • + 6
 Sexy, try the twinlock before you bash it, IMO worth the "snake orgy" of cables.
  • + 4
 Vital has all the infos dialed: „Prefer a different shock entirely? Scott provides enough room on the Ransom for a variety of piggyback shocks, and says it's coil compatible as well.“
  • + 3
 Looks like a killer do-it-all bike. Don´t know if the Twinloc stuff is so great on this very gravity-oriented bike, tried it on an older Genius and its great, but 170mm 29er sounds like a bikepark machine with only "some" climbing to be done, but eh, it extends the possible use cases to longer day-long trips.
Love the look of the newer Scott models - its a little on the expensive side but still a pretty okay deal comparing with other brands, like Scott has always been.
  • + 2
 A good comeback Smile I remember original Ransom felt like a motorcycle compared to my s-works specialized epic... I owned Genius and actually loved twinlock but the bike felt too fragile plus that whole pull shock thing and I switched to Nomad C, I had ultimate setup at a time with Pike, slacker rear link, slacker angleset headset and coil RC4, the bike was great but geometrically slightly off for me... Then I had very special opportunity to ride with few Scott guys in Switzerland(used to design helmets/goggles for them), I had a new Genius LT Tuned and boy I loved it, it didn't have a pigyback or coil but it had DH tires and the traction was insane. It was very noticeably lighter than my NomadC, as well as more neutral and slacker geometrically. I then moved on to the next Nomad and it's pretty sick bike but I still remember that Genius LT as something very special. I'd love to give this one a go one day Smile So all of u piggyback lovers Smile give this one a go, I was very surprised what that tiny shock can do.
  • + 3
 Hey @pinkbike! How about a long travel shoot out between Torque, Firebird, Ransom, Slayer, Capra, Clash etc etc Alot of new bikes in this superenduro/freeride/whateveryouwanttocallit segment nowadays.
  • + 2
 What do you do when the factory next door to your frame builder factory in Taiwan shuts its doors and puts remaining inventory on closeout? Buy them all, tell your product manager to come up with a name any name just hurry the hell up, tell your paint department pick a color any color just hurry the f*ck up, then hold those moronic mountain bikers ransom.
  • + 6
 This is one of the sickest bikes this year.
  • + 6
 a 29er with 170mm travel, and decent sizing, yes finally! more of this!
  • + 5
 It's like Scott intentionally use terrible colour schemes on their lower spec bikes to encourage punters to spec up
  • + 1
 I had the old generation genius LT tuned 700, it was the worst 170mm bike I ever ride. Most 140mm bikes felt better and more forgiving. The carbon was also very weak, cracked 2 frames near the BB within a few months each. I'm sure this new genius will perform better as it uses a better/proven suspension platform, but I'm never again buying scott products.
  • + 1
 I agree the old Genius LT had very poor geometry and suspension kinematics. If this Ransom is anything like the new Spark or the new Genius, which it looks like it is, then the geometry and suspension is now spot on. I’ve owned both of the new Scott platforms in their debut year models and feel badly you won’t give them another try because you’re missing out! The current Genius 900 Tuned is hands down my favorite bike I’ve ever owned or ridden! Granted I did upgrade to Code RSC brakes with 200mm rotors, wider bars, Maxxis DD rubber, and a WTC dropper remote with twinloc above the bar.
  • + 1
 @sledshed: I'm sure the new platform performs very well. I look forward to see how durable the carbon will be. Also, because of the fact that I only race recreationally a few times a year, I'm not interested in the twin-loc lsystem, specifically because it sacrifices the LSC adjustment knob. I do however like the adjustable air volume in the rear shock. My conclusion is, this is not a bike for me, because 1, it's too expensive and the build is not what I would choose and 2, I'm not confident the frame is durable.

To be fair, I had no issues getting new front triangles for my old genius LT through warranty. It is the fact they cracked so easily for no obvious reason that bothers me (no crashes, no hucking, no pointy rock impacts, nothing).
  • + 3
 Someone has to ask the hard question here...

Is that finally a purpose built fender for Fox forks? Is it a Fox or Scott part? Details?? First ride review?!?!
  • + 6
 finally? It came out with the Genius last year.
Its now available for boost 36 and 34 and 34SC . Its a Syncros part available from your scott dealer
34/36 265596 black or orange
34SC 270242 black or red
  • + 1
 It’s a Syncros fender. Been out for a while, not as much protection for the fork seals but looks super clean.
  • + 4
 @jonnyboy: Ha. Someone works for Scott. I should call you for parts availability.
  • + 1
 @b1k35c13nt15t: Not employed but been riding their bikes since 2005 so tend to have a bit of a geek out on the catalogue Wink
  • + 0
 it's such a cool concept but the fender sucks because it doesn't protect the stanchions.... leaves them open to rock nicks.
  • + 1
 Is it even possible to run another shock? Think about this one being broke or at service (servicing special shocks like this takes longer times than usual and mechanics dont get the spare parts as fast as the ones like on a Fox Float X2).

I once had a bike where only one special shock could fit....and I'll never buy something like that again!!!!

And ooooh......wanna put a coil on? haha lel
  • + 1
 Yes other shocks fit. Yes you can run a coil.
  • + 1
 Great looking bike but I just wonder if this does not have too much travel for EWS. For normal dude can be great but I think racers would rather go with 150 mm Genius 900 with 160/170 fork.
  • + 4
 If you are looking for Ransom, I can tell you I don't have money.
  • + 2
 Can rocks get stuck against the shock and in that area of the frame? It doesn't seem like they can get out the bottom if they get in there.
  • + 2
 I work demo and I’ve never see a rock get stuck in the spot at the lower shock mount. The Carbon Genius and Ransom also have a drain hoke for water, mud etc. as well as a B.B. drain hole.
  • + 1
 @Verg: What about muck and gravel getting stuck in that small gap that opens up above the rocker and chainstay pivot when the shock is compressed and then being crushed when uncompressing...????
  • + 1
 I’ve never seen it happen I think it’s pretty unlikely to that it would. @Nicksixtynine:
  • + 1
 @Nicksixtynine: That Fox 100hr service interval just went to 50hrs with this thing. Yay.
  • + 2
 I've put the geometry into the database for comparison purposes...

geometrygeeks.bike/bike/scott-ransom-900-tuned-2019
  • + 2
 Can't believe I just got stuck watching Brendog ride in Needles dust cloud. Not ever clicking another Scott video until someone can confirm Brendog is front and center.
  • + 1
 If you mean the other video, that was Kyle Jameson.
  • + 0
 @Verg: applying same criteria to k
  • + 3
 Why do they make the metal ones look like sh*t and the plastic ones look great??
  • + 4
 Looks like a Trance & Slash mated!
  • + 2
 I like the name, reminds me of how stuff was named when I was a kid! Yeah Ransom! The kind of name you want for a bike! Sounds intrepid, and gung-ho.
  • + 4
 The ransom... Just a hint for its prince...
  • + 2
 @freerabbit: It's quite the bike. The handlebar/stem trend is a great idea.
  • + 2
 @Kramz: agreed
  • + 1
 Does Fox own Scott Bikes? I mean, there is so much tech talk on a Scott suppliers rear shock!? Aye you need good suspension, but c'mon your selling your bike, not your supplier's kit.
  • + 4
 Where’s the Fox Live Valve model?
  • + 2
 A geometry chart with a suitable resolution that you can actually read would be nice ... otherwise why bother.
  • + 1
 Nm, issue was my iPhone and mobile mode, can read it fine in Desktop mode
  • + 3
 So what was the Ransom to finally get this press release out?
  • + 3
 Looks like.. a ton of others Horst link bikes
  • + 15
 You can thank the water bottle mafia for that.
  • + 4
 @BenPea: Lobbying is strong AF in bike industry
  • - 2
 @BenPea: santa cruz bikes look nothing like that for example and every model has space for a bottle.
  • + 1
 Now the big question will be, When will it be released in US? The Genius took like a year to get to very few bike shops. The updated Genius is still difficult to get in US.
  • + 1
 They are in Ogden, UT waiting to go to dealers. Except the XTR version.
  • + 2
 Can anyone comment on switching back and forth between wheel sizes? Any compromises with this design?
  • + 1
 I have ridden both setups on my Genius. There are pluses (wop wop) and minuses. However, I feel I would I have a plus HT and a standard 29" super squish.
  • + 1
 I’ve ridden both wheel sized in the Genius. They’re both good. The Geometry chip flips flops to allow approimately the same B.B. height between wheel sizes and results in about a .5 degree head angle and seat angle change (slacker in 29). I feel like the 29” is a little bit faster. I prefer the 29 slightly over the 27.5x2.8 (unless you ride in a lot of sand). The 29x2.6” tire can still monster truck through anything.
  • + 1
 When is the e version coming out? That would be the ultimate "deep woods moto trail explorer" bike.
  • + 1
 Awesome looking bike! 170mm 29er would be a beast and loads of fun. Shame it doesn’t have a piggy back
  • + 2
 They mounted a too small brake rotor at the front (first pic)
  • + 2
 I feel like this is what the Genius was supposed to be?
  • + 2
 Can you run rightside up piggyback shock? Also stem/bar aluminum combo?
  • - 1
 Yes to both
  • + 1
 No, you can't run a Shock with Piggyback at the Top, because the lower Shockmount is a metric trunnion mount. Piggyback upside down should be possible though. This is the worst implementation of Shock placement ever. Cheap Buschings at the top with lots of rotational movement, they will be worn out in no time.
  • + 2
 @Rossfeld-biker: Sorry, was going off the video, didn't realise it was only with the piggyback at the bottom
  • + 1
 They’re a few reason the shock is set up that way.
1. Twin lock cable are run through the down tube and it helps with clean routing.
2. Less un-sprung mass. The shock body (heavier) is stationary the shaft (lighter) is moving
3. Putting the trunion mount at the bottom alllows for better carbon layup and frame design. It’s almost one continuous plane from the down tube, across the shock mount into the seat tube. A more direct route with less “kinks” is better for carbon than stepping it down to accommodate the shock flipped the other way. Flipping the shock would require narrowing the mount and wouldnt be as good when it comes to the carbon layup.
4. I’ve yet to have a problem with the DU bushings on the rocker link in over a year on my Genius.
@Rossfeld-biker:
  • - 1
 @Verg: 1 then you are stuck with only this shock?
2 unsprumg mass difference in micrograms vs seals longevity?
3 spacers at the lower shock mount
4 put bearings and same low bump performance and you will be able to put more pressure (better mid stroke support)
  • + 0
 @Verg: I can see why they did it this way. But its bad for the Shock sealings, the oil will always flow away from the main piston sealing, because of gravity. I had two bikes in the past with a similar Rockerlink design and both developed noticable play in the upper DU Bushing after one year and I had to replace them. IMO this is a bad design, for me there are more reasons aganst it then for it, but obviously Scott wantet to keep their Twin-Lock and thats the best way to do it for them.
  • + 2
 I've had my shock mounted so that oil drains away from seals for years and it's not been a problem. By the time it would be a problem, you should have already had your shock serviced anyways.
  • + 1
 @zephxiii: Fox forks if left in the upright position for extended periods of storage will almost certainly have pooched foam rings at the least. From my experience. Don't have much experience with shocks so can't comment.
  • + 2
 Flipping you bike over everyone in a while allows the oil to flow down to the foam rings and saturate them. I’ll flip my bike over and let it sit for a few minutes while I put pads, shoes etc on.it helps keep the foam rings lubed. @m1dg3t:
  • + 1
 The main piston will always be in oil. If you refering to the air sleeve seals I’ve never had a problem with them mounted that way. If you’re referring to the older style DU bushings, they didn’t hold up as well as the new igus type bushings Fox is using. I year is about the normal service interval of the rear shock anyways. Eyelet bushings would normally be replaced with that service. @Rossfeld-biker:
  • + 1
 @Verg: I've seen the IGUS wear much faster, and they "show" their wear must faster with knocking. Maybe that's good because it actually makes people replace them. They feel better though.
  • + 1
 @kmg0: Sorry about no replying earlier. I've worked with scott as their Western US demo driver. Im just starting to switch out my '18 bikes for '19 and I've yet to run into any type of play or bushing wear at the upper shock mount. Keep in mind the more popular bike medium and large genius are easily ridden 4+ hours per weekend. I've got easily over 100 hours on my personal Genius without issues.
  • + 1
 @Verg: I'm just talking about the Igus in general, not the Scott bikes. Only real issue I've seen with some Scotts are the upper swingarm bushings/bearings go out after a while, but that doesn't even seem very widespread, mostly regular wear from 2+ years of use @ 5+ days a week. Bring that Ransom by sometime Cool
  • + 0
 That shock seems like DCRV, only with a trigger actuator to lock out the 2nd chamber. Seems like a cool idea. But on the other hand, it's more controls on your bars.
  • + 3
 The way I read/understand it it's still "only" the TwinLoc on the bars and the Ramp Control is switched on/off with the lever on the shock.
  • + 1
 You’re correct the ramp control only works in descend mode and is switched at the shock. Traction control (the middle setting on the twin lock). also reduces air volume on the rear shock to keep the rear of the bike higher in the travel. The B.B. is higher, head angle and seat angle are steeper and travel is limited to about 110mm. It’s great for climbing! @P3N54:
  • + 2
 I'm presuming this is no longer a Denk design?
  • + 2
 Denk has been gone from scott for almost 10 years now dude!
  • + 0
 @thedirtyburritto: It was tongue in cheek... Dude. Smile
  • + 1
 Why have the shock mounted upside down? Looks like it makes it difficult to reach compression/TR and rebound.
  • + 2
 So the twin loc cable comes inside the downtube and straight onto the adjusters
  • + 1
 It is a little harder to reach the rebound, but it allows for better rounding of the twin lock cables to the shock. You control the low speed compression from the twin lock on the handle bar so no need to reach down to the shock for low speed compression adjustments while riding.
  • + 1
 Already had the opportunity to ride it yesterday in Leogang. Congrats Scott to this amazing Bike! 3
  • + 2
 Geo chart, low bb 353,3mm and high bb 364,5mm is wrong.
  • + 6
 The high setting is for 27.5" wheels, low for 29" wheels. Hope that helps.
  • + 1
 @SCOTT-Sports: coil shock compatible?
  • + 1
 The chart is correct. In the chart the “low” B.B. setting is measured with 29” wheels and the “high” B.B. setting is mesured with 27.5. That why it’s a little confusing.
  • + 1
 Any pic with a piggyback ?
  • - 1
 and.. what about the fork?? they say "want a 29er?! just switch the wheelset..." .. well, and the fork? do I mount a 29inches wheel on a 27inchees fork?! mmmm
  • + 2
 Fox forks are 29” or 27.5”+ compatible so as long as your running a high volume tire you’re good to go. Stock genius and Ransom come with 29x2.6 or 27.5 x2.8
  • + 0
 @Verg: ok thanks! clear. but then I´m forced to use a high volume tire.. else with a 2.5 for instance, i don´t know..mm in my opinion a bike is either 27.5 or 29..
  • + 2
 @opamp84: according to a scott representative, it should be ok to use the bike/fork with a 27.5x2.4/2.5 tire... I can‘t comment on how the bike rides in such a setting though.
  • + 1
 design convergence is getting ridic
  • + 0
 As far as the rear shock goes...I guess what comes to mind is oh come on another air romic, romulon...whatever, ect...
  • + 1
 I wish Scott would add mounts for a Bash guard.
  • + 1
 The second picture actually looks like a @WAKIdesigns concept drawing
  • + 0
 Who am I to judge, but does that shock mount not look like a mud collector?
  • + 1
 Can you put a dual crown on this, or will it void warranty?
  • + 1
 And the next one that looks like a ... Slash, Session, you name it.
  • + 2
 Mud fender brand?
  • + 3
 Syncros makes those.
  • - 2
 INCREDIBLE!!!!!
PARTICULARLY ALWAYS I SEEN THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SCOTT BICYCLES IN PAINTING, AND WITH THIS NEW BIKE IT WAS NOT DIFFERENT, IT IS BEAUTIFUL!
  I HOPE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PILOT THIS SHIP !!!
  • + 21
 WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE EXCITED FOR THIS BIKE!!
  • + 13
 @jamesbrant: Quiet please, some people are reading this at work!
  • + 1
 awesome colors ! Good job Scott !
  • + 1
 Seriously with the geo chart.... make It work!
  • + 1
 The geo chart is correct but it is a little confusing. In the chart the “low” B.B. setting is measured with 29” wheels and the “high” B.B. setting is measured with 27.5. That’s why it doesn’t seem to make sense.
  • - 1
 Off course it is light. Scott frames are all quite fragile if I count the number of friends who got their frame replaced in recent years.
  • + 1
 Did I miss something? In the low setting the BB gets higher?
  • + 1
 Yeah, but it’s not too clear. The chart is a little confusing. In the chart the “low” B.B. setting is measured with 29” wheels and the “high” B.B. setting is measured with 27.5. That’s why it doesn’t seem to make sense.
  • + 1
 Great Scott! 1.8 giga watts!
  • + 5
 1.21 gigawatts, doc
  • + 1
 Brad!!!!!
  • + 1
 Looks like a Transition Patrol, Geo very similar too...
  • + 1
 Looks like a Devinci Troy 29er!
  • + 1
 Mel Gibson wouldn't pay for this bike.
  • + 1
 Nice Troy, I didn't see they made one in orange....
  • - 1
 This bike looks like...I know, I know. But seriously, the look of this really makes me appreciate the Mondraker's of the world.
  • + 2
 twinloc is the shizzz!
  • + 1
 No kinematics tables No care.
  • + 0
 C - Twin lockout T - Progressive D - Linear It's the same thing.
  • + 1
 Yeah but Brown
  • + 1
 The brown is way cooler than it looks like in the pictures. More like a copper than a brown.
  • + 1
 stick of celery
  • + 1
 Looks like a Session
  • - 3
 Accuse me of being an ignorant American but when they list the prices in Euros I instantly think "Are they trying to pull a fast one on me?"
  • + 0
 Is it 29+ compatible?
  • + 1
 Max tire size in 29 is 2.6”
  • - 3
 Looks like a giant, and that is not where you want your final product to end up. You want to be more toward the remedy side of the spectrum not the reign side.
  • - 2
 as bikes get simpler, scott just couldn't resist putting a bunch of added cables and wires with the twinloc design...
  • + 1
 How are bikes getting simpler? Every bike takes a different hub or BB size now, half the parts are electronic, shocks sizes all just changed (and got electric parts), there's different chainring interfaces, plus sizes, rim widths for days, a tire compound for every variation weather.... Twinloc is pretty much the most basic component out there, hit it and climb better, hit it again and go down the hill.
  • + 1
 @warmerdamj: simpler as in nobody wants 10 cables cluttering your handlebars... dropper, brakes and rear shifter are pretty much the only needed things for most people... it's pretty much only in xc that cable-actuated lockouts still prevail
  • + 1
 @tgr9: Well mine is on an xc bike, Spark RC. It's not hard to use though, on my 1x setup i have it over the bar on the right side and just my dropper on the left, you really only use it on solid transition areas of climbing.
  • - 2
 Look like a slash
  • + 1
 Not even close
  • - 1
 Looks like a Trance.
  • + 4
 Looks like a Scott Session
  • + 0
 @headshot my thoughts exactly. Reign or Trance. It starts to be a bit dystopian with bike design these days
  • + 0
 Scott Process (Kona)
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