Bike Check: Andrea Garella's Custom-Made Ancillotti Scarab 29er - Superenduro 2018

Sep 1, 2018 at 13:05
by Samantha Saskia Dugon  


Italian custom made specialist brand Ancillotti dominate the Superenduro Series and most recently 2 of their young riders have been battling over 1st place in the 2018 series. Andrea Garella currently sits in first, with just a mere 100 points separating him and his teammate Francesco Mazzoni. With Priero being the last race in the 2018 series, we caught up with Andrea and Mr Ancillotti himself to get the low down on the new Scarab 29er as well as Andreas experience being with a factory team at just 16.

Known for their support of the up and coming generation of riders, the Ancillotti team have created a wonderful riding environment for their riders. "I really enjoy being in a group of younger riders and I feel really happy in the team!" says juvenile series leader Andrea Garella.

Ancillotti team rider Andrea Garella
Rider Name // Andrea Garella
Age: 16
Hometown: Turin

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Ancillotti Scarab 29er front triangle
Model Name Details
Frame: Ancillotti Scarab Aluminium 29er
Shock: Ancillotti Shock, 160mm
Fork: Formula Selva, 160mm
Wheels: Formula Linea G, 29", 30mm width
Tires: Maxxis DHF & DHR 2
Drivetrain: Sram Eagle
Brakes: Formula Cura
Cockpit: Renthal Fatbar 30mm rise, Renthal Apex Stem
Size: Custom Medium
Pedals: HT T1

"I saw Andrea riding last year and did a couple of races with him, during winter we then arranged for him to become part of the team for a full season," says Tomaso Ancillotti, Ancillotti creator and team manager.

bigquotesI love the bike! I feel really confident on it and love that it is custom sized and tailored to me.Andrea Garella

Ancillottis flip chip style adjustment features.
Ancillottis flip chip style adjustment features.
HT T1 Pedals
HT T1 Pedals.

"The new model scarab is 160 rear travel and we have this which is like a flip chip. However, unlike a flip chip, this has 6 positions and more variety. It's like a screw that you can half turn to make the bottom bracket lower and adjust the head angle and find your perfect balance. All of our bikes are also custom sized so, for example, there is no standard medium size. If you want a slacker head angle, a higher or lower seat tube, or the frame to be 1cm longer or shorter then we can do it!"

Formula Linea G wheels
Formula Linea G wheels and Maxxis Minion DHR 2
Ancillotti made shock
Ancillottis custom 160mm shock.

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Ancillotti Scarab 29er rear triangle.


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123 Comments
  • 70 19
 Let's talk about the welds please.
  • 126 9
 Yea let´s. I love to read comments from all the expert welders out there. It´s funny that so many mountainbikers are professionall welders.
  • 8 0
 Wait for it, here it comes
  • 20 2
 These are looking way more pretty compared to what was shown in older articles.
Defently no reason to hold back buying one, hope Ancillotti can handle the customes request now :-)

Nice bike !
  • 26 1
 for sexy welds & vehicles go here www.race-dezert.com/forum/threads/pretty-welds.59124
  • 8 0
 Well they must be awful to have won all that enduro... In the end, if the welds were pretty then absolutely no-one at PB could afford the bike anyway.
  • 2 5
 @tullie: CAUTION! wanna jack off pictures in the link!
  • 9 10
 @tullie: Holy mother... I bet some folks jerk off to that. Amazing stuff.
  • 7 1
 @WAKIdesigns: those welds really are nuts.
  • 5 1
 Maybe the welds are not looking that good, but Ancillotti they always had a certain je-ne-sais-quoi
  • 13 6
 They are Italians, if it works they don't give un cazzo, rather go for lunch/aperitivo. Being lazy has been one of the greatest motivators for on point, efficient work - you always look for ways to do it in even less time - in order to do less. Trust me, i am Italian from Napoli, know something about it.
  • 10 4
 Everyone keep calm... and go enjoy some Nicolai or Foes Racing welds.
  • 2 1
 @Orangeblu: some of might be.
  • 42 2
 Anybody complaining about the look of the welds...

1 - Ancillotti has been welding bicycles and Mototrcycles frames since Nicolai, Foes, Orange etc. were children or not even born. I bet they know what they are doing.
2 - These bikes are made for only one purpose: Racing. Ancillotti sells frames to support their racing team.
3 - Find another mom and pops shop that has won DH WC at Junior level.

Would you buy a rally racing car and complain about not having electric windows?
  • 13 14
 @RedRedRe: no no, but I woul complain if the upper and lower front whisbones were welded like that, there is a risk of shearing from the chassis you know...
Were wishbones put fork, were body chasis put head tube,
Electric windows does not come even close to your argument
  • 3 6
 @Orangeblu: Like the welding instructor who chimes in down the page and mentions how even his worst students could create better welds? Or the Journeyman welders who chime in and mention that these welds wouldn't pass inspection?

You should maybe listen more, because it seems like you have trouble understanding how to use the word expert.
  • 15 3
 @adespotoskyli: I guess you have more welding experience than a family that has been welding motorcyles frames since the 60's. Contact them, I am sure they need your help.
  • 7 4
 @LoganKM1982: Sure a gates welder from the internet is the judge of the weld qualities of a DH WC winning brand. Welding a bench it is not the same than welding a bicycle.
  • 5 0
 @Orangeblu: I have been for a while. Not the best TIG welding but so long as it's holding up like with this frame I'd say they're fine. From as close of a look as I can get from these pictures they look like they would pass an AWS visual inspection.
  • 16 1
 Ancillotti has been around for a long time (in case you younger guys were thinking this was a startup) and I would say Tomaso is the Brent Foes of Italy. He knows what he’s doing. Perfectly stacked dimes has nothing to do with penetration, heat affected zone, alignment or design functionality. The guy probably drinks 14 espressos a day, so you have to cut him some slack.
  • 2 10
flag adespotoskyli (Sep 5, 2018 at 8:30) (Below Threshold)
 @RedRedRe: no, surely can't weld that good, thats why I leave it on pros, and they are not ancillotti for sure
  • 6 1
 @adespotoskyli: Do take in mind that this frame is aluminium which is hard to weld. The welds are also more noticable due to the polished surface of the frame (and the fact that there are a lot of welds on the frame in the first place). If they had painted the frame for instance the welds wouldnt be such an eye catcher. But thats the charm in this case.

But as far as i can tell ancilotti does have welding experience. I dont expect these things to crack or shear off so easily.
  • 4 0
 @Sontator: Italians from Napoli are totally different to Italians from Tuscany...
All another Planet
  • 8 4
 @frix182: depends which Italians you ask, those from Torino or Milano may tell you that both Tuecany and Napoli are in Africa
  • 8 1
 @Orangeblu: Lol. I do weld for living and I Mountain bike. Those welds are fine. It appears to be welded with a spool gun from a mig machine instead of being tig. Not the prettiest welds, but functional.
  • 4 0
 @RecklessJack: a friend owns a rose uncle jimbo in raw, not even polished and every single weld is seamless, straight, like a stack of dimes, and haven't cracked in four years, it looks like the guy who welded it actually gives a f@ck how his work looks, welders do take pride on their work you know, and strength is as importand as looks because you can't get two pieces welded together when your arm is trembling and your masks shade is like a 50 grid sanding paper.
  • 1 1
 @frix182: i see where you come from and in many regards I agree but believe me, there are certain traits that are universally Italian despite what the uptight northerners are saying and i think those are also trhe best traits. Just today i read in a totally reputable academic text that Leonardo da Vinci due to his painting skills was borrowing original paintings and returning forgeries. Stuff like that. Masterly cheating = real thing.
  • 7 0
 @Orangeblu: Welders and dentists, that's pinkbike for you.
  • 1 1
 #realweldshavecracks
  • 6 1
 @Sontator: don't make it seem that all the Italians are like the Italians from Napoli, please :-D
  • 4 1
 Plenty of plastic bikes around for the welding haters out there. It's not 1993 anymore.
  • 1 0
 Oh wow! I thought someone had just sneezed on it.
  • 2 0
 The uglier the weld the stronger the frame.
  • 3 0
 You lot are hilarious. Pretty insta perfect welds can fail a bend test just as easily as something that looks like it was glue gunned together by a toddler. Same goes the other way around.
  • 1 0
 big question is, have they ever broke at the welds?
  • 1 0
 @Orangeblu: dont forget all the expert dismissers of purported welders
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Dennis Hopper vs. Christopher Walken ?
  • 1 0
 @adespotoskyli: What i meant was that because the Ancilotti is shiny the welds would be more noticable.
I know that Rose do make really good frames indeed. And the welds are spot on. But its also has way fewer welds to begin with.

The Ancilotti frame is the complete opposite. It has welds basically everywhere. (i mean look at the frikin seat tube) That makes it look a bit messy but the welds themselves dont look bad. There are just a lot of them. There are all sorts of bits and pieces welded to it.
  • 1 0
 @RedRedRe: lahar won junior worlds DH in 06 with a fraction of Amcilloti’s backing. No longer around.
  • 1 2
 @adespotoskyli: Then don't buy one bro, we don't give a flying shit about your opinion on the aesthetics of the welds. In case you missed the opening line of the article...
"Italian custom made specialist brand Ancillotti dominate the Superenduro Series and most recently 2 of their young riders have been battling over 1st place in the 2018 series."
I think your priorities are a bit askew....
  • 4 0
 @adespotoskyli: and can Rose, with their beautiful uncle jimbo welds lay claim to a world championship in any discpline?? nope, but you know who can? Ancillotti, that's who.
  • 2 0
 Really? People are comparing Rose with Ancillotti? The only brands I can think that would somehow compare are Lenz and Foes.
  • 1 0
 ??
  • 1 0
 @EnduroriderPL: you want to jack off pictures?
  • 3 1
 @nohit45:
Well then I'll buy one too!do I have to race and compete as well or just buying a anccilloti will make me a champ?

A lot of racers can win on a shopping cart, doesn't tell me shit if ancillotti won a cup or the race to the moon
  • 1 0
 @Ryanrobinson1984: only those with such welds as shown above in that link.
  • 37 14
 Just home from welding for a solid 14 hours and let me tell you I have never seen a weld like these, they are worse than from one of my first year welding students, which is actually a lie even my worst welding student could have welded this. The cheapest welder in my online welding department store sells could weld better than this - even if operated by one of my patented weld-bots experiencing a fatal e-15 malfunction. And before you say I'm an armchair welder tyou can save it... I also do gates, railings, barn doors and makeshift trailers. I even weld wood with this new sticky welding soap.
  • 32 5
 I would like to see you or your students or your department store guy, welding a bike....

In the 80's a lot of people were critical about Charlie Cunningham welds and praised Klein and Manitou frames for their beautiful welds /finish.

Ten years later all the Manitou were cracked, half of the Klein were cracked too... Cunningham bikes are still in one piece - owners still ride them – and fetch 15k if you can ever find one for sale.

Ancillotti has been around, welding motorcycles frames since the 60's....

Pretty welds and strong welds are not the same thing.
  • 5 0
 Ha ha ha ha ha "welding soap" Ha ha ha ha!!!!!!
  • 14 0
 @RedRedRe: *Whoosh* Big Grin
  • 7 0
 @RedRedRe: this one went slightly but surely over your head
  • 5 0
 @RedRedRe: Exactly, I'd rather have good, ugly welds than pretty, shit ones.
  • 6 0
 It's funny because every singletime there is some talk about welds, all the critics come from people in north america. Yet I see as many cracked frames coming from 'merican brands than other countries.

My takes is this:
- north americaners think that weld need to be pretty, perfectly even and aligned to be functionnable and reliable.
- some people in some part of Italia think that weld only need to be functionnable and reliable to be functionnable and reliable.
- people from other places grab some popcorn and watch the 'merican troll about something they possibly might not have any clue.
- I'm not sure you can judge the quality of a weld by its appearance. Time and reliability stats are a much better benchmark.
- I've seen way worse welds. In fact they have supported my fat ass for years without failing (balcony chairs).
  • 4 0
 Btw my online department welding shop has 4 departments; classic welding, little welders, the welding woman; fashion weldz
  • 2 0
 @browner: how much for the fashion weldz course? I am 99.999% sure this is what's needed for PB glory.
  • 5 0
 @shirk-007: Gucci welds
  • 1 0
 @opignonlibre: in the states - but also in parts of Northern Europe - you just need to take a couple of frame building classes, pay your nahbs or other show fees, and you can start charging 2-3k per frame. That said, some outstanding frame builders are in the states, Carl strong, Steve Potts, Foes, Lenz, Jones and more.
  • 2 1
 @kanasasa: I guess if he would have started the message as “Just home from welding 14 hours dressed like a woman..” it would have been more clear I was dealing with “British Humor”
  • 2 2
 @opignonlibre: funny, I’ve had the exact opposite experience. Any North American made product I’ve had, that has any welds/joints, has far outlasted the design/integrity of everything else made outside of the country. I disagree that North Americans think that the weld has to be pretty. That has nothing to do with weld strength or integrity of the conjoined pieces. I think you may be letting your bigotry speak for you
  • 1 3
 @opignonlibre: and I think I know why that is. I think it’s because North American welders are paying very close attention to detail in their welds during welding while the rest of the world, during their welding, is trolling and constantly talking shit about North America ????
  • 18 0
 Awesome looking bike and must so cool for him to have a custom made frame at just 16! But I think the details are a bit thin on the ground to call it a 'Bike Check'.
  • 12 0
 Does it matter what the welds look like?....it works!....and I've never seen a broken Ancillotti at the welds.
  • 9 0
 my 2004 Ancilotti gripped like and limpet and lasted years with no issues.
  • 9 3
 @PSH1 - I have never seen ANY Ancilotti and I doubt 99,999% of people opening this article ever had. Hence comments on what they see and it ain't pretty. Unless you love T34 and want to make an argument that T34 was a better tank than the Tiger, which you are fully, wholeheartedly, totally entitled to do and many would agree with you.
  • 7 0
 These things are sex on wheels dude! Just back from Italy and spent some time checking these out and talking with the owners, my next bike for sure. Also 1. Am a time served welder/fabricator 2. Currently own a Nicolai (previous was a Foes) 3. Often times Italian girls have the Roman nose but........;-)@WAKIdesigns:
  • 4 1
 Well, I owned a Ancilotti Downhillbike and it broke around the welds at the head tube. But in that time most bikes developed cracks in that area or any other. My giant hat cracks in the chainstay. Not really an argument against those bikes.
  • 4 1
 @blackforest: Cracking around the weld is a sign of good welds and bad design.
  • 2 0
 Whatever you mean by bad design (bad tubing choice?!) I guess we can all agree that the good old truth applies: buy whatever you want and see what happens. On another note, if an artisan frame from a hipster brand had such welds as Ancilotti I’d feed them witch chilli and laxative until their arse falls out. If Canyon had it, I would not care a bit
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I happened to be thinking about the T34 and the Tiger tanks two seconds before you mentioned it! My opinion is this- the Tiger tank was a better tank and the best tank of world war 2. Other tanks’ shells were literally just bouncing right off the tiger and not so much the other way around
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I saw one being raced at Pedal Hounds Enduro this weekend just gone. Not that rare.
  • 3 0
 @Ryanrobinson1984: there is a "legend" kind of story about the first Tiger tank being captured by the Brits in North Africa. Something broke in it and Germans had to leave one behind. Soldeirs were guarding it for a few days until some tank engineer came from UK to see it. They were going crazy on how much better it was than Matilda and Challenger. The guy finally came, looked at it for a moment, saw precision, high quality, plenty of machined elements there are and said: "What a waste of time and energy, Gentlemen I think that we will win the war"

He meant that it was unnecessarily good. Which was later proven by the Russians, who made super cheap and super fast produced T34 with angled armor and sorry... One Tiger could kill 30 T-34s, But Russians had 35 T-34s per each tiger.
  • 2 0
 @StevieJB: That was mine!
  • 1 0
 @PSH1: Nice looking bike, I think they quite eye catching, spotted you on the flat at the bottom of the hill before the push up. A friend used to ride DH WC for Ancillotti a long time ago, so guess I do tend to notice them.
  • 12 1
 Apparently the welds are holding back these two young riders from winning races... Oh no wait, they are in 1st and 2nd place on these purpose built race bikes!
  • 9 0
 Read between the untidily welded lines here:

custom geometry, homemade shocks that are tuned to the owner, a warranty for life, a bike that stands out in a world of hydroformed tubed doppelgängers, a small back street business that supports the sport in its country, young riders, and the locals who work for them.

Who cares about the look of the welds when a company like anciolloti are doing what bike companies should be doing in this day and age.

Nice one anciolloti.
  • 11 0
 Good job Tomaso ;-) Numeri uno!
  • 8 0
 Lots of welding experts here, i bet if they tried welding they would become grinding experts pretty quick.
  • 10 1
 Sexiest welds ever !!!!!
  • 5 2
 Stupenda! Faccio downhill da quando la disciplina esiste, ho avuto tante bici, la penultima una Devinci Wilson ed ora una nomad 4 C. Quindi non proprio cancelli. Però la bici migliore che abbia mai avuto é stata una ancillotti, dhp light 2010. Quella del mondiale di brook! ????????????????
  • 4 0
 I have little idea what that said, but I love the way it sounded. Big Grin
  • 2 0
 @mtbikeaddict: he said that he has been riding dh since the 90’s, he has had many nice bikes - last two were a Devinci Wilson and Nomad 4c, but the best bike he had was an Ancillotti dhp light from 2010... at least this is what I understand
  • 3 0
 dunno about the hate about the welds, been on the same DH bike for 8 years giving it hell so there's no sign of any of the welds going. (I've only heard of 2 of these bikes breaking ever! one was straight into a tree at high speed) compared to other big brands efforts, the DH frames are pretty much bomb proof and they corner SOOO WELL

would love one of these enduro bikes?
  • 3 0
 Is that a question? I would answer yes.
  • 10 5
 I'm sitting at my weld bench with my head in my hands..... such a waste of time to fabricate this bike and then kill it with those welds.... ????????
  • 3 0
 People... this is not a “bespoke bike show” bicycle. It is a pure racing machine. They don’t care to reach a larger audience. They could care less to make the welds look clean on the outside as it takes longer. It is not something that comes in their mind at all. It is even prettier because the welds are unfinished. Nobody complained that a F40 did not have a door handle, floor mats or the paint was so thin. There are other alu bikes that kick ass and have refinished weldings like Lenz and Foes. However they are not pure racing bikes which is probably better for people like you and me.
  • 12 6
 No welds closeup, wise move pb...
  • 3 1
 A weld that looks crap is not necessarily a bad weld. But, yes, I have been a professional welder for over 20 years, and I think that bad looking welds have a effect on the overall confidence of the end user. Sort it out guys!
  • 7 2
 PULL SHOCK WORLD CHAMPION
  • 7 3
 Which is false marketing because it's not a pull shock. It's a pull linkage.
  • 4 0
 The bike is gorgeous and riding one of those beasts is a dream.

#weldporn I LOVE IT
  • 4 0
 Pretty interesting whip there, would like to see some more numbers
  • 6 1
 Totally rad .
  • 5 1
 One of the best looking bikes around.
  • 4 0
 More information about this gorgeous Bike !
  • 2 5
 Well, what I am wondering is, why my cheap on one steel frame has seamless tig welding all over without any blemishes, and some brazing at the same level, done by an average paid skilled laborer but
a custom bike aficionado from italy can't hold a staight line welding a few cms piece, of alu.
Same goes for any other bike made in taiwan or china that is mass manufactured.


Would you really buy a leather sofa that the stiching is allover the place and cushions dont seat well and bulge on the sides just because it's made in italy?
  • 3 1
 @adespotoskyli: nope but I don't care about the welding.
One thing, AL welding is much more complex then steel or titanium welding.
I don't even like the raw look if it...


I just looking for a new bike/frame because my Super Enduro get DH descending capabilities but also pedal's shit uphill like one, only the steeper seat angle made it possible to do it but the bike it self don't want it.

Frames I do find interesting are RAWW Madonna, Pole Evolink 158 and this one. Good uphill capabilities with excellent DH capabilities with enough space to mount stuff or just strap stuff on the frame.
  • 1 3
 @Serpentras:
Point is, given the attention needed to finish a bike frame I would never buy something with a bad finished weld at a stress point,

For my point of view, in no way I would buy and tip a schmitz or a meiller tipper with a weld seam looking like that, never mind paying premium for it.


Welding aside, the bike looks good and tick all the boxes for me as well, ship manufacturing to taiwan and you have a winner here!!
  • 3 0
 every „real“ welder knows you have to look INSIDE the frame to see if the welds are „good“ (or only pretty/ugly).
  • 1 0
 This bike have soul becuse every piece is unique and hand made, unlike mass prodused frames, made from people from poor countries which are forced to produce as much as possibible for short period of time.
  • 1 0
 Reminds me of the good old days and the Ancillotti MX bikes, reliable as a fart in the hurricane. This, however, could be the bomb.
  • 3 0
 what the hak is a SuperEnduro???
  • 4 0
 It's been around longer than EWS
  • 2 0
 @kanasasa: it is the first race series with the enduro name.
  • 2 0
 Was hoping for a longer article... That thing is super rad, saw one in person 2 weeks ago. PB should do a test!
  • 2 0
 If some of you don't like the welds, just buy a better welded bike, who cares?
  • 2 0
 Super bike. Young boys and Young "guns"
  • 1 0
 I love that the paint job looks like a 90's carbon tube frame with aluminum lugs
  • 2 0
 The wheelset is a Linea 3 not a 200g heavier Linea G Wink
  • 2 0
 Functional?
  • 2 1
 Why this machine welded??
  • 1 0
 Because it aluminum. Big Grin
  • 2 0
 @mtbikeaddict: ok, told what machine is milled from aluminium?
but those seams, making me sickFrown .
  • 1 0
 Ha ha, well said sir.
  • 2 1
 PULLSHOCK WORLD CHAMPION lol. Fuckin Italians. So corny.
  • 1 0
 3 years have passed by and Ancillotti is winning EWS Wink
  • 1 0
 Is it 29+ compatible?
  • 1 1
 we demand an even lower pivot now
  • 1 2
 like most thongs italian....theres too much going on here all at once.
  • 1 3
 Do you even weld bro?
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