Specialized Releases New Eliminator Tire

Nov 1, 2018 at 9:35
by I Am Specialized  
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PRESS RELEASE: Specialized

We’re rolling out a new tire, the Eliminator. While it’s a versatile, all-around gravity tire, the Eliminator is especially at home on loose and aggressive trails. In a sense, Eliminator fills the gap between the Butcher (harder, compacted soils) and the Hillbilly (loose and wet soil).

If you want to call that “enduro”—go ahead. The Eliminator, after all, rolls up to speed easily and absolutely slays on rowdy, chunder-filled tracks. Or you can ditch the buzzword-of-the-day and just think of the Eliminator as an excellent choice for rides when you’ll need a ton of braking control and cornering grip.

TONS OF CORNERING BITE
Let’s start with the tread. The Eliminator combines a distinct row of shoulder knobs with smaller center blocks. The center blocks are arranged evenly to bite in soft soil, but they also help with straight line-to-corner transitions. Carefully-shaped transition knobs between the center blocks and the aggressive shoulder knobs also give the Eliminator a smooth and predictable feel when you lean hard into a corner at high speeds. You get lots of grip and a clear sense of how far you can push the Eliminator before drifting commences.

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STICKY AND FAST
Riders need traction, but they also need fast-rolling tires. That’s why we developed a specific GRIPTON tread compound that delivers excellent traction by better conforming to the trail. This compound also helps the tire roll fast, given the tread blocks’ ability to return to their original, un-deformed state with surprisingly little friction. The stuff is sticky and fast.

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IT COMES IN TRAIL AND GRAVITY FLAVORS
Eliminator comes in two casings. GRID is your trail casing, as it’s light and supple but burly enough to handle rock gardens. BLCK DMND takes it a step further with more heavily-reinforced sidewalls that help it to blur the line between our GRID and DH casing, while letting you ride DH tracks on a trail bike.

SIZES AND SUCH
Eliminator is available in both GRID and BLCK DMND casings in the following sizes:

27.5 x 2.3” | 27.5 x 2.6” | 29 x 2.3” | 29 x 2.6”

PRICING:
From £50 / $70 USD for the BLCK DMND casing and £40 / $60 USD for the Grid casing

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152 Comments
  • 179 4
 What's with all the aggro names? Maybe we'll see some friendly names sometime soon? The Includer, the Complimenter, the Healer, the Beautifier, the Kindness?
  • 53 1
 I just hope we get the "Radiator" at some point.
You know...to get rad on!
  • 22 1
 Well buckle up, because word on the street is that a new tire company is developing a mic-drop tire called the The Murderer with proprietary GFYS casing to put these other 'aggro' snowflake tires in their place...
  • 13 0
 Too loving names give the impression that they may grip, but they may just hold on a tad too long hence hold you back when you're trying to go fast. The Cuddle The Passionate Kiss Candlelight Dinner Your Valentine Endless Drool
  • 1 0
 @Loki87: have to warm up to that one
  • 2 3
 No 2.5?
  • 2 0
 Those are for the recovery and sunday stroll rides.
  • 6 0
 Terminator still missing
  • 3 1
 Buttercup!
  • 21 2
 @vinay:
I like fast and rowdy tires

The Stripper ( semi slick)
The Hooker (mud tire)
The O.N.S (FRO)
The Cumagain (long lasting, rear only)
The Oral (Front tire with G.I Joe kung fu grip)
  • 4 1
 @chyu:

Spesh 2.6 is a 2.5.

Solved.
  • 2 0
 @MTBrent: Ha! GoFastYaSissy SuperTachy been blasting tricknology. Is it the shoes?
  • 2 0
 Yeah, I just wanna rip with a cuddler on the front, and a little spoon on the back! Grippy AF
  • 1 0
 @chyu: Specialized 2.6" tires are only that with a 30mm or wider rim. a 28 or 29mm rim will achieve the 2.5" status.
  • 1 0
 If I'm not mistaken, they're named after different trails
  • 2 0
 After Onza released the Aggro and Honch combo, everything else is just trying too hard...
  • 2 1
 @gumbytex - "What's with all the aggro names?" - From what I understand, with the case of Continental changing their Rubber Queen tyres to Trail King, the American market calls for it. Something about the names not being "macho" enough for the average "macho" American male rider, who makes up a huge chunk of the MTB market.
  • 1 0
 @Boardlife69: calmer, suit you?
  • 2 1
 Their 2.6 usually measures about 2.4...so no @chyu:
  • 1 0
 @chyu: specialized 2.6's are 2.5
  • 1 0
 @Boardlife69: I don't get it... no really, none of it. Never have! Smile
  • 1 0
 @MTBrent: Love it!
  • 24 6
 Assegai anyone?
  • 24 3
 aggressor
  • 5 2
 @SnowshoeRider4Life: Assegorai.
  • 44 1
 @jzPV: Assgressor
  • 18 0
 @davec113: with medium knob stiffness for moderate penetration rather than full on violation.
  • 2 2
 Assoregai?
  • 1 0
 aggressorgai?
  • 7 0
 ASSGORER
  • 8 0
 @MmmBones: Available in BLCK DCK casing for full on slaying.
  • 1 1
 Looks like a slightly evolved Purgatory to be honest. Same layout of 2 close block, 2 wide blocks, and 3 blocks. If only they could nail down the weeping.
  • 1 0
 Haven’t had weeping with Specialized casing in a few years so I’m confident they addressed pourusness issues. I’m using OrangeSeal and/E13 brand sealant. @browntown40:
  • 1 0
 @feeblesmith: Unless you slide too far off the saddle.
  • 11 1
 Confirming Butcher Grid 2.6's measure up to about 2.35 on 30mm internal rims. But frankly a nearly perfect size. They should keep the size, but just properly label it 2.4. And then add a real 2.6 for those who want to go full balloon tire.
  • 1 0
 Yep. My Butcher 2.6 measures not much wider if at all than an Ardent 2 4...
  • 1 0
 btjenki-
Where did you measure... tread or casing?
I just measured a 29" Butcher 2.6 BD, and got 2.70" on the casing, and 2.52" at the treads
Measured on 30mm DT Swiss M1700
  • 7 1
 Weights or it didn‘t happen. Nice tire, exactly what was missing in their lineup. But i have reservations. Regarding compound. I am a big fan of rear specific, not too soft compounds, that roll fast and more importantly: wear slowly. That drastically limits choice (aggressor and wtb fast rolling have the perfect concept), because nowadays it seems everything needs to be marshmallow and super expansive. Back in the days you could buy every dh tire in the maxxis lineup in 60a. Grip was all right for the rear, wear rate was fantastic. And you knew the shore hardness. What happened? Today
  • 2 0
 The current Grid tires have fast rolling, long wearing, springy rubber but the casing is fairly light. I didn't like the Butcher 2.6 grid on the front but is a nice trail bike rear tire. I thought I read somewhere that the BLKDMND tires will be softer which would be welcome.
  • 11 5
 I hope they fixed their sizing, calling a 2.35 butcher a 2.6 is not right. I bought a 2.3 pergatory as well and it measured 2.1, looked like a xc tire.
  • 15 9
 How wide are your rims? That particular variable matters. A lot.
  • 10 3
 Yep, Specialized Butcher 2.6 is not wider than the E13 TRS 2.35. That's plain false advertisement.
  • 31 2
 @egoncalves09: The specialized 2.6 is not supposed to measure 2.6 on anything less than a 35mm internal rim. Its printed on the package what rim width corresponds to what width. It should measure 2.4 on 30mm rims.
  • 29 1
 @JacksonTM: you expect us to read anything but pinkbike comment sections? Down votes for you.
  • 2 2
 actually the purgatory is the only tire that matches it's printed size in real life. it's a higher volume tire than a butcher 2.3
  • 1 0
 Yeah a 2.6 butcher is actually 2.6.
  • 1 0
 Actually my mistake a 2.6 hillbilly is actually 2.6 I’ve not measured a butcher.
  • 2 0
 @thenotoriousmic: i know that the first gen Butcher grids were narrower than advertised for sure cuz i run a butcher 2.3 and a purgatory 2.3, and the purgatory is considerably larger than the butcher. these are both first gen grid tires.
  • 2 0
 A 2.6 Maxxis Rekon is actually 2.6" = 66mm and considerably bigger than Spesh two point sixs. Unless they changed it recently.
  • 13 11
 I never had so many punctures in such a short amount of time as I did after mounting a set of GRID tires. For tires that were about the same weight as Maxxis EXO, they sure were a lot weaker. BLCK casing sounds like a step in the right direction but im sour on Specialized rubber. Though the tread wear life was great for the few months I ran them. Same old cliche: back to Maxxis tires once again...
  • 8 1
 Interesting, I’ve spent a fair amount of time on Grid tires and have had minimal puncture issues. I did have super fast wear though. Go figure.
  • 6 1
 My buddy (Spec. employee) has been on these for about a month, riding daily. They have held up well in extremely rocky conditions this past weekend in the Lost Sierra (Mills Peak). I have been beggin him to grab me one of these to replace the Purgatory in the rear of my Rallon.
  • 8 8
 Same experience here, GRID is weak.
  • 13 0
 There are different versions of Grid. The old Butcher and Slaughter (pre-Griptron) weighed around 950-1000 g and had heavier casings that Purgatory, Ground Control and the new Griptron Grid tires (800-900 g). So it depends which version of Grid you’re talking about.

My pre-Griptron Slaughter has been bombproof, but I managed to put several holes in a Purgatory Grid within the first month of owning it.

I am guessing the BLCK DMND casing fills the gap after they lightened up Butcher and Slaughter Grids.
  • 3 2
 @DMal: true. The only issue was that the old Grid wasn’t that good either. Currently Grid is like something like Exo-light. I went though old Slaughter grid twice. Second time I had Huck Norris in. Tyre pattern is good, better than Minion SS. But it should be beefier around 1050-1100g like Super Gravity
  • 2 1
 @DMal: Same here on the Purgatory 2.6 "Grid." 3 or 4 rides on that thing and I punctured the casing. Never again.
  • 2 1
 @DMal: same experience with a Purgatory Grid.. tread is still brand new because i got 4 rides out of. Puncture or slice every ride before i retired it and shed a single tear...
  • 1 0
 I was planning to get GRIDs for my next set but two riding buddies got them recently and have had so many punctures it's unbelievable. I ride 3x/week and haven't punctured a tire in well over a year (on a range of WTB, Maxxis, and Schwalbes). These guys are riding the same trails, maybe 1x/week, and have had so many punctures in three months that they both just gave up on them.

OTOH, I hear people in forums talk about how much they love GRIDs and Butchers....so I really don't know what to think. Maybe it's a width thing? Most of the rave reviews I've seen are from the 27+ crowd, whereas my friends were on 29" skinnies (~2.1-2.3).
  • 3 0
 @mpcremata: very similiar story for me... went full DH casing Butcher after the ordeal with the GRID Purgatory... been very happy since Smile
  • 3 0
 @DMal: Spot on. The old Butcher Grids were sick and pretty storng for how light they are. I tried out a new version (Gripton) earlier this year, and they have about half the grip and I pinched the tire (tubeless) right away. hope the Black diamond ones are better. The speshy DH tires are still sick for the price!
  • 2 1
 @mpcremata: I have had 2 grid tires and punctured both sidewalls within a week. Went to maxxis and havent looked back
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: ......not often I agree with Waki but yeah grid is not the tuffest. But then again neither is EXO in my opinion!!
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns:

Slaughter is now dead to me. The new e13 SS in midweight casing (~1000g 29") is going on come spring. Stoked.
  • 2 0
 @mpcremata: dont know what you lot are doing wrong. Spesh are the only tires i dont get constant flats with. plus much cheaper than most equivalents. 2.3s all day
  • 1 1
 @laxguy: Just take them back to the shop and replace them, money back or warranty them.
  • 2 0
 @WasatchEnduro: i’d love to try them E13s since I hear only good opinions about them. But they cost sht loads around here.
  • 3 1
 @Primo123: maxxis fanboys everywhere. I prefer not having warped sidewalls within a week
  • 2 0
 @Abite: which casings were you running at what pressures? If you run rxo,exo, control, snake skin, conti protection or thinner: blame yourself and show me a thin tyre that doesn’t warp.
  • 2 0
 @jacobxpaul: warranty used tires that have punctures and slashes from use...? is that really a thing?
  • 1 1
 @jacobxpaul
I called my shop after my Purgatory casing was destroyed and they pretty much told me that I'd have to go through a lengthy process with Specialized and if slice or puncture was found to be caused by an object won't be covered. It would have to be proven that the casing itself was defective from start, and the damage was not caused by riding. How that makes any sense is beyond me.
  • 3 0
 @monts: i warped Purgatory and Butcher control without even trying hard. One sideways landing off a pathetic send and bang. Continentals and Schwalbies also warp like Gary Oldmans face in Leon. If it happens to you frequently you must run thicker casings and/or wider rims.
  • 1 0
 @laxguy: should of seen my bin of warranty tires 30 days and they will warranty them. It’s the easiest process i hand a new tire out and my outside rep comes by and gives me credit and we usually toss the tires. I left the specialized shop i managed but still run the tires.
  • 1 0
 @jacobxpaul: interesting.... unfortunately i think its been more than 30 days at this point, but i had no idea that was a thing
  • 5 0
 Would love to have weights listed somewhere. Especially the GRID vs BLK DMND setups.
  • 20 6
 Irrelevant.

27,5 2.5” aggressive tyres will have following weights

1ply stupid tyre that will flat all the time will weigh like 700-750g
1ply reinforced flatting a bit less. Grid/exo 750-950g
1.5 ply proper tyre SG/DD 1050-1150g
2ply 1300-1400.

Anyone claiming durability and puncture protection between those categories like 800g tyre being puncture resistance is lying in your face.
  • 3 6
 @WAKIdesigns: I'm running 2.8" Nobby Nic and Rekon, both around 800g, and never had a puncture in about 600 miles. I may not be the most aggressive rider, but I'm 215 lbs. and I frequent some pretty rocky trails.
  • 1 0
 @mpcremata: At what pressure?
  • 2 0
 @perroch: About 17 and 19. Although, I've experimented with as low as 15 and 17. Still no issues.
  • 7 1
 @mpcremata: I honestly wouldn’t want to hurt your feelings but... I don’t know anyone who wouldn’t flat that... I am a 165lbs troll who can’t ride and I punctured 1ply schwalbe at 30psi, having procore inside...
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: There is literally no way you could hurt my feelings talking about mountain bike tires. I'm just telling you my experience.

Like I said, I'm not the most aggressive rider, but I've ridden Downieville on that combo twice this year, and I certainly didn't walk the rocky sections. I do ride a hardtail, so I'm not exactly plowing into the rough stuff.

For comparison, I've got friends who are riding the exact same trails, at the same speeds, and have had numerous punctures on various other tries (GRID, Rocket Ron, Trail King). Maybe I ride light, I dunno. But we get to the end of the trail at the same time.

Or maybe it's the difference between 2.8" and non-plus? Again, just telling you my experience...
  • 1 0
 @mpcremata: I can absolutely get that it is your experience. I got a What? reaction since experience of mine and ost people I know is that 1ply schwalbies are super easy to puncture. I don't think tyre volume plays a role. You are just lucky Big Grin Cheers!
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Luck definitely plays a role. Back in my tubed days, my MO was to go 6+ months without a flat and then get two on the same ride. Since switching to tubeless a couple years ago, literally the only flats I've ever had are from burping (before I got my wheel/tire combo dialed) and when I busted a spoke. That's over probably 2K miles of trail riding and at least 4 different kinds of tires. I do realize that after saying all this I'm now guaranteed to get a puncture on my next ride...
  • 2 0
 I love the 2.6 Butcher as a front tire. Yep, it's the same size as a 2.35 trsr but that's okay with me. In the front the grid casing is all I need. I've had a 2.3 rear Slaughter grid that also held up fine but I need a lot more breaking traction than that. This in the black Dimond might be worth trying but how much does it weigh?
  • 4 0
 The 2 top pics suggest they are branching out into wheel barrow tyres, about time, the stock ones are really holding me back on the costruction site.
  • 4 0
 Bring back the old Grid compounds. All the new Griptons are like riding plastic donuts. I rarely had sidewall issues until the new Griptons...
  • 1 0
 i keep hearing and reading that the new grid w/ gripton sucks! even on the spesh website the reviews are not high for the new stuff. is it really that bad?
  • 2 0
 ELIMINATOR FIRST IMPRESSION - A couple of days ago Specialized sent me two 29x2.6 Eliminator tires, one GRID and the other BLK DMND casing, to test and provide feedback, so I threw the GRID on the front of my ‘18 S-Works Enduro 29r, replacing a 2.6 Butcher GRID, which I installed about 1 month ago, but have been running since April of this year and have gone through about three during that period so I’m very familiar with Butcher’s feel in all conditions/terrain except really muddy like in the PNW (CA, OR, and NV have been extremely dry since spring). I have to mention I’m biased as my LBS, Scotts Valley Cycle Sport, gives me amazing deals on Specialized products so I typically stick to the brand for best price but also performance.

My ride was in Santa Cruz (home base) 19 mi long, 2400 vert climb, 4400 descend, with about 4 mi of dirt roads and the rest single-track www.relive.cc/view/1946525900 with a mix of hard-pack with lots of leaves, dust, dirt and loose stuff as well as a few rocky sections but nothing too sharp or extreme, a few small drops, maybe 6’ vert and 10-12 ft track to track, and off camber and a few high speed banked turns.

I just returned from Downieville where I ran the Butcher around 25 lbs front and Purgatory 30 rear with Cush-Core, rear only. I swapped the Eliminator GRID in the front for this ride and ran at 20 lbs front because of loose conditions and minimal rocks. Also, I weigh 180 I anyone cares about a matrix. Therode definitely wasn’t DH hence lower pressure.

I’m happy to say the Eliminator hooked up really well in all situations on Sun’s ride and I could feel the increased amount of shoulder knobs minimizing my sliding and keeping me in control even when it did slide a bit (more like drifting). The rear Purgatory was definitely breaking loose before the Eliminator but that’s mostly intentional. At first glance the tire does look like a combination or the Butcher and Purgatory but also has more knobs and splits within those knobs adding additional teeth in both breaking and cornering.

Someone in this thread mentioned “weeping” from Specialized tires but I haven’t had that issue for a few years now and they definitely addressed it prior to Eliminator’s release. I’m using about 3-4 oz of Orange Seal in the front.

Overall my first impression is I like the tire a lot and look forward to testing the BLK DMND casing in the rear with and without Cush-Core hopefully in the Sierras maybe Mt Hough by Quincy if we don’t get any rain/snow soon.

I hope my feedback helps in any way!!
  • 3 0
 The marketing is strong with this release. All you need to know: All around Enduro tire and sizes, but with the sizes be sure to subtract 0.2 inches from the width.
  • 4 0
 Vernon!
  • 1 0
 I can't hate on Specialized tires. I made two full years without a puncture in heavy riding and changing tires only because they wore out. And then I had two big punctures on successive days, one of them a sidewall. Since then I've gone two months with no incidents. I run various Specialized 2.3s and I really have a lot of confidence in all conditions, but maybe I'm just instinctual about their limits by now. If the weights are decent, I'm going to give these a try and see how they work on wet roots. They look like my old Panaracers.
  • 2 1
 Now that every brand has some sort of dhf/dhr clone, it's Magic Mary's time. Assegai,Hellcat and now Eliminator.
I'm not saying they're straight copies, but the knob patterns are of similar logic. Any of them looks like it would work as a front for me.
  • 1 0
 Ive got some rides in BLK DMND casing. Feels like schwalbe DH, firm sides softer top. Definitely a step in the right direction.

Havent ridden this tread, just BD Butcher.

Really like my assguy front, so looking forward to this one.

29” Butcher BD weights (memory from shop) 2.3-1050 / 2.6-1150
  • 1 0
 I've tried a lot of tires and was pretty settled on the DHF 2.5 3c but recently went to the Butcher 2.6 (measures about 2.42 on a 30 mm ID wheel which is perfect cause balloon tires suck)) and I really like it. It does give up a fraction of side lean traction, but it rolls a lot better and is a bit lighter as well.

I'll probably give this new Eliminator a go next time I need a tire.
  • 2 0
 Purgatory on EPO? Like the idea of this for a front tyre. The Butcher on my bike has never instilled the kind of confidence I like.
  • 6 1
 Looks like an Aggressor.
  • 4 0
 Yeah a assegai at half the price I'm in
  • 4 1
 So uhm, we doing this looks like a Session thing for tires now?
I´ll start:
"Looks like a Magic Mary!"
  • 5 0
 The Litigator.
  • 2 0
 Is it just me or does it seem like there's a new tire coming out every other day? It's stressful choosing a new tire, too many options lol
  • 2 0
 Don’t overthink it. DHF/DHR2 and you are set.
  • 1 0
 @Austink: yup can't go wrong but I just switched from minion to hellkats and love them. My new favourite.
  • 1 0
 Update on weight: I found one measurement. 29x2,6 1235g. Seems to be in line with dd and sg.
gewichte.mtb-news.de/product-15441/specialized-reifen-eliminator-blck-dmnd
  • 4 0
 Weights?
  • 2 0
 Yeah what is the ever living issue with seemingly EVERY manufacturer dropping stuff and never listing weights? There are plenty of people always wanting weights...yet they kind of hide them. The worst is seemingly kids bikes, its all "TBD at your local shop". FFS its a kids bike and there is only one size.
  • 1 0
 Weights and widths from MTB MAG

Eliminator Grid 2.3 “29 inches : 1.063 gr. Width at center: 62.81mm. Width at knobs: 63.92mm
Eliminator BLCK DMND 2.3 “29 inches : 1.199 gr.Width at center: 60.96mm.Width at knobs: 61.93mm
  • 2 0
 Specialized AssGuy. Is the real Maxxis AssGuy available in Exo casing yet? I want one for the front.
  • 1 0
 have many different opinions about specialized tires , most of them good , GRID and DH ,very few punctures . They are not my first choice but I cant fault them for punctures
  • 1 0
 I’d slot them between Slaughter (SS) and Butcher (DHF), not hillbilly (shorty) and butcher (dhf). Hillbilly can be friendly...Hillbillys in ‘Deliverance’ for instance.
  • 2 0
 I want a tire that hooks up like a motocross tire, weight of road bike tire, and tough as a trophy truck tire.
  • 2 0
 Nice tire but will Reebok take legal action?
  • 2 0
 well fuck...you people go thru a lotta tires!
  • 2 0
 Is it me, or does the Butcher look burlier?
  • 2 0
 Butcher by a different name, still same parents!
  • 2 0
 I thought you only had to buy vowels on Wheel Of Fortune? No?
  • 2 0
 How 'bout the Huckerer, the F*#%erer, and the Puckerer?
  • 1 1
 Weak name how Butcher Slaughter has a good ring to it.... I refuse. lol Hopefully specialized gets sued for horrible ass tire name.
  • 1 0
 Why Butcher BLCK DMND 27.5 x 2.6” is not available in Europe? Any Specialized reason?
  • 1 0
 Still rockin 26", so decision made easy!
  • 1 0
 nice name. reminds me of 9mm ammo with the same name. 80gr 9mm at 2000fps
  • 2 0
 To be honest I thought it would be a short track urban XC race specific tire, for XCE races.
  • 2 0
 Minionator DHR?
  • 1 0
 ZZ Top - Eliminator - "You've Got Me Under Pressure"
  • 1 0
 A mix of Purgatory and Clutch. Clutch was good tire.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a down-sized Assegai
  • 1 0
 Looks a lot like the new Maxxis Assegai Eek
  • 1 1
 When will these be available?
  • 2 1
 Specialized has them listed as being in stock now.
  • 2 1
 @mikekazimer: Do you know if they plan on making a DH version ? Sounds like a dream tyre tread wise for me.
  • 1 0
 Kenda Hellkat?
  • 1 0
 Purgatory 3.0
  • 1 1
 I take it the ' BLCKDMND ' is their DH casing ?
  • 5 0
 No. Their DH casing is called DH. I think BLCKDMND is supposed to their version of a Schwalbe SuperGravity?
  • 2 0
 Thanks
  • 1 0
 nope it's their super gravity/enduro casing
  • 1 1
 How many minions are they gonna release?
  • 1 0
 tubeless ready?
  • 1 0
 yep.
  • 1 1
 I always ride my minions I don‘t care about your opinions...
  • 1 0
 Or "Pump Stumper"
  • 2 4
 Absolute garbage. Tread peeled twice in two different tires. I’m in tire #7 because of sponsorship. These have shit.
  • 7 0
 Well, that's a great post for a guy who doesn't want to have sponsors.
  • 1 0
 I see in your pics of both your Commencal (frick'n cool color) and the SC it's the Minion DHF, so I'm assuming "these have shit" is referencing Maxxis tires, correct?
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