WAKi-bikes of the Future: Y-ME Schmetterling

Aug 22, 2016 at 14:04
by Wacek Kipszak  
Waki bikes of the future

There is only one round of the UCI DH World Cup left, and then we can begin the final countdown to World Championships, the biggest race of the year. An aura of mysticism surrounds it, this is a race where athletes are putting everything on the line, bare knees, single ply tyres or aluminium bolts. So far the top teams have engaged in eye-pleasing Paintjob warfare with Pitty and Bossman leading the way, but sometimes those unique conditions create new components and even frames, like the DaVinchi Sparthan.

What if...

I told you that bike designers got so inspired by Aaron Gwin's chainless massacre in Schladming, preceeded by Neko Mullaly's amazing run in Hafjell, that they decided to play with the idea of a chainless DH bike. Which other track than Val Di Sole fits such bike better? Several journalists did real-life tests with and without a chain (Dirt, GMBN) and the results were quite shocking with lap times being within seconds. What are the potential benefits of running a bike without the drive train? Well for starters, the weight of the whole bike would go down by a full kilogram, and most importantly, the unsprung weight at the rear axle gets cut by at least 400g since we are getting rid of the rear derailleur, cassette, chain, and freehub body. If you think for a moment about how many rocks and roots of all sizes that heavy wheel has to ram into during the course of Val Di Sole or Andorra's track, this may mean shaving off whole seconds by just riding along. Removing chain tension makes it even easier for the suspension to take the wheel out of the way of obstacles. Chain growth becomes a non-issue and engineers can further optimize suspension kinematics. Finally, if we skip the crankset and the chain ring, the bottom bracket height can get lower by at least 5cm. This dramatically lowers the center of gravity of the bike, improving cornering and handling in general.

Chainless Specific Downhill mountain bike:

Y-Me Schmetterling chainless DH bike

Here is my go at the design of a chainless DH bike, the Formula 1 of push bikes. First up is Y-Me Industries with their Schmetterling, which means "Butterfly" in German. We all know who could pilot that thing to get the gold medal and the most prestigious pride-flag resembling jersey. The man in question is known for using very little of his suspension and I had the pleasure of watching him in person bounce off of the tops of fridge-sized boulders, hence the 650B wheels of the bike are mounted to only 150 millimeters of travel in the front and 160 in the rear. Geometry is not exactly a Geoshmetron, a 61-degree head angle and near 1300mm wheel base should please many keyboard warriors. The bike has a relatively long chainstay at 460mm. The suspension is based on a high pivot design with initial rearward axle path for ultimate smoothness and steady wheelbase change. Kinematics are built around a modern air shock, Faux X26.

Y-Me Schmetterling chainless DH bike

The fork is a bit of an engineering beauty, the upside down design is for a bit of extra traction and supreme tracking through the race course from hell. 1.5 crown design to improve aerodynamics, reduces stress at the crown/steerer interface and maximum fore/aft stiffness under braking. The whole upper assembly is made of carbon fiber with two aluminium tubes cast inside, working as a sliding surface for the bushing mounted at the end of the inner legs. Thanks to using a carbon fibre monocoque structure and (actually) clamped 24mm axle Y-Me could manipulate stiffness of the fork the get the desired result. Yes, there is one bushing under the wiper seal and one at the end of the 35mm inner leg. This way the bushing offset increases with the travel, stiffening up the fork at the best possible moment and eliminating the issue of bending of the inner legs, which creates additional, unwanted resistance in standard forks featuring both bushings mounted in the outer leg assembly. Then we have the air spring with a high volume negative chamber and off course the tokens... made of fricking 26" carat gold. No... but the fork may have a twin tube damping cartridge in golden color from the Swedish Åhléns (read Oh-leans), of course with separate high and low-speed compression adjustments. The bike has quite a slack head angle to better work with angle of attack forces acting on the fork, therefore the fork offset has been set at only 44mm.

Chainless Specific HPpedals

The bike features special pedals from HP, thanks to a slight drop of the axle they always remain with the right side up and provide a better platform to stand on when pumping. HP makes both a flat and clipless chainless specific pedals, or rather platforms.

Super Push Bike

The second bike could have been designed already, last year. Socialized's engineer, James Chamberlaine designed most of his favorite features into this bike, that is a very low center of mass, long front, shorter end, slack head angle and low BB. I am not keen at all to write more about it since I know that the Pinkbike audience always has a lot to say when a bike from this company comes along. I don't want to enrage the masters of numbers. So here it is; the Socialized X-Works HOTwalk F5R.

Socialized HDTWalk F5R

Could chainless bikes be the way forward? Could it be a new trend after this 120 hyatus or the Plus fuzz? Perhaps some rental park bikes could be designed as chainless, which could lower the prices of the rental? Joeys like me probably only pedal on the hips of the jumps when they roll on machine dug trails anyways. I'd like to say that I'd really love to see more genuinely interesting bikes being designed. The less bikes that look like a Seshion the better... because the Seshion is a damn good bike, but make your own good bike, damn it.

Cheers!

Arguably yours,
Wacek Kipszak – Waki

@WAKIdesigns / Waki on Facebook


Disclaimer: This article is meant to be a satire. My very intention with it is to entertain you and eventually provide some food for reflection in case we treat our sport a bit too seriously. I honestly do not wish to insult or harm anyone or any company. Eventual resemblance to persons, names and places might be coincidental.




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148 Comments

  • + 86
 @Protour do you agree on the design of these rear linkage and chainstays ?
  • + 24
 Sure, but if the concentric pivot is great why not make the c.o.g. even lower?

m.pinkbike.com/u/protour/album/Potential-2016-Demoproducts

Waki and Jason@specialized have seen my dream concept bike, I'm more than a little disappointed it didn't make it prototype status for this big race. I assume they are getting the patent finalized first.
  • + 6
 @Protour: this is the shit. We have 3 chainless dh races a year at Bootleg Canyon.
  • + 0
 sorry wrong post.
  • + 40
 Hi everyone,
This is my handmade prototype for mountain gravity bike (chainless).

vimeo.com/87980676

www.facebook.com/szymon.dziedzic.75/media_set?set=a.504378426254067.121313.100000457419999&type=3
  • + 4
 this is the shit. We have 3 chainless dh races a year at Bootleg Canyon.
  • + 10
 that rock at the begginning seems like a very talented rock I would like to hire him for a feature film.
are you his manager?
  • + 3
 How does it corner?
  • + 18
 we should do a case study on waki as how most of his individual comments as disregarded as trolling yet his opinion holds value on our litle comunnity. I guess waki youve reached internet troll level over 9000 congratulations.
  • + 4
 I think anybody who has a mind and can conceptualize and criticize constructively are blatantly disregarded as trolling for not having the "yeah bro" mentality. I find a lot of Waki's posts very spot on.

Shit... I conceptualized the 1x drivetrain in 2003 as I was running 11-34 with a 22-32 up front and commented to another mechanic I respected that they should come out with a 40tooth cassette and a smaller ring up front. The guy scoffed at the idea. Funny how it's pretty much standard these days.
  • + 1
 @m0dest: ▲▲▲▲ this is why we dont let old people use the internet.
  • + 2
 @fercho25: Funny. At 38 I think the same thing when my kid gets online. Honestly I don't even know what you are referring to. If at 25 working managing JoyRide bikes from 2003-2005, UBI Pro class graduate you think people didn't have ideas about what they wanted in a bike and an Industry that had only a handful of decent MTB companies that I would consider riding or the fact that I think Waki has some good points.

Well sorry kid, don't know what to tell you. You obviously know everything already.
  • + 1
 @fercho25:

as near 50 years old... yep.. probably right mate!
  • + 0
 @ovadebarz: as a minister of the Harambe lord of the interntz church I certify that you are cool and can use the internet.

@m0dest: im probably gonna regret this, but I will try to reason with you. my problem is none of those reasons, is because you think anyone cares about your stories. You managed to tell a stupid story(seriously is not even a good one) about you telling something to another guy like 12 years ago; in the middle of a post that is just aimed at poking some fun at waki, the fact that it contains probably the oldest meme ever should have gave it away.

And this is more of a personal curiosity thing. do you actually think that by spouting out whatever credentials you think you have your arguments hold more value? seriously im trying to understand how that could give any force to you argument and I cant figure it out. also what the f*ck is UBI?
  • + 3
 @fercho25: Classy fercho.

I got your reference. You just took offense to it for some odd reason.

I was agreeing with your original post by providing a valid statement that I don't typically think Waki's posts are trollesque while also mentioning from a personal experience that just because someone scoffs at a good idea it doesn't mean that it eventually won't come around. Maybe once you finally mature around to "old" you may get the reference.

UBI: You already know everything at 28 so why should you be concerned with old bike shit?

Get on man. I got old man shit to do.
  • + 17
 Take the seat off this drawing an these things allready exist........
  • + 3
 www.gravity-scooters.com/eng/downhill-scooters

Well here it is...
dual crown forks and everything
  • + 2
 @racer585: Holy shit no kidding.
  • + 2
 You mean take off the seat, rear shock, and stirrups aka pedals?
  • + 12
 Now we just need a chain-less stationary trainer for the racers to warm up on by doing short intense intervals of standing on the pegs just before their run.
  • + 13
 Is it still called "chainstay" or do we need a new term for it?
  • + 28
 axle-holder-upperer-thing
  • + 5
 BeebeeAxler
  • + 3
 you guys read XKCD's Thing Explainer too much
  • + 5
 @rifu: Introducing: The Down Goer Extreme.
  • + 10
 I love how you can think outside the box, and some of your design are not so delirious.
A lot more sexy than current mountain scooters, is it the future for bike park ?
  • + 11
 I love your posts Waki for president.
  • + 14
 NOT! Kill Waki instead of a kitten next time a press fit bb is made.
  • + 7
 These are great drawings and nice touch of humor and entertainment, in the art. Good job! Plus... it's nice to see fake logos and not some serious marketing scheme by a company. But, with that said, solid individual marketing job Waki.
  • + 8
 We may all laugh, but a Formula 1 DH Push Bike Series should absolutely be a thing!
  • + 10
 The future scares me
  • + 5
 It would be cool to see concepts from real engineers. What I see here is an unconscious attempt to design an electric moped. The idea has flows from the core. Fixed pedals make the bicycle Very Hard to handle. What makes a bicycle more maneuverable than a motorcycle is the offset pedals. Huge advantage in weight shifting etc. etc.
  • + 6
 What I want to know is, are those bars the old 35mm standard? Or are you stepping it up to boost?
And on that note you didn't even talk about the axle sizing for optimal push/power/chainstay ratio.
  • + 0
 No just the most regular 35mm clamp... bike uses two identical hubs with 24mm axles at 110 spacing. Metric shock in standard mount at 230x65. Frame does not accept dropper posts.
  • + 2
 @WAKIdesigns: It's a bit disappointing you didn't use this opportunity to introduce a few more new standards, some Whitworth threads perhaps?
  • + 3
 Great work. I rode a few months last summer without a chain at the bike park and still had a lot of fun. I was even debating to take off my chain last week, cause I just purchased it for 70 and was thinking of saving it during a race...
  • + 0
 This is actually quite intriguing. I may give it a go to draw a "cheap" utilitarian bike for use in bikeparks. Let's call it ParkerBro. IORP (I only ride park) I guess a low stand over would help a lot isn't it?
  • + 9
 @WAKIdesigns: yup it honostly helps your corner speed.
You should make a drive chain snap in / quick release system. At any time you can install derailleur,chain,spocket with in seconds.
  • + 2
 This is the only difference between the above designs and current riding. Sure you lose a bit of weight from removing the entire drive train, but what about railing into berms, part of teh skill in doing so is getting the outside foot down hard and the inside up and light. I think this could be seen n the future, but the crank arms may need to stay for simple kinetics necessary for the speeds we are used on DH berms and corners...
  • + 2
 @RideTahoe707: Motorcycles have been railing berms for decades with out cranks!
  • + 1
 Dude this looks more fun than not! If you live in an area where a bike park was your main style of riding this isn't a bad idea. Kind of like the snow bikes with little sleds instead of tyres. Your art work should be in a museum, good work!!
  • + 1
 Hmmm, this is interesting. I'm not going to lie, it's not a HORRIFIC idea, but the biggest limitation with it is that it's kinda stuck with just one single purpose. Yes, maybe if you're lucky enough to live right beside some serious DH trails and they're all that you ride, then this might be something worth investing in, but the one thing that catches me is that that's not the riding most of us do. The one thing about a bicycle, including proper DH bikes, is that they are bikes and you can take them almost anywhere on any trail. You couldn't ride anything that's not a DH trail on this, not Enduro, certainly not XC, possibly not even most freeride tracks. Nice idea, but if this would cost nearly as much as normal DH bikes, I don't think it'd be worth investing in.
  • + 1
 Chailess bike park riding - thats regular thing from time to time when you destroy some parts of the bike and do not wish to destroy you day...

drawing of the bikes looks - SIC
Actually first pic - looks awesome; whether is chain-less / single speed / gearbox bike; which can easily became true with carbon fiber usage
  • + 1
 i once happened to snap a chain on a dh run and continued to stay put on them pedals...suprising how much faster the corners, turns, and flat out downhill without no or little fingers on them brake levers was happening...cant deny this idea...
  • + 1
 Great concepts, @WAKIdesigns!

In real life, we'd have to introduce a middle step to forward the chainless idea. In a first season, we'd have to have the guys at the DH Worldcup drop the chain and leave everything else equal on their bikes. Have two timed final runs, one with, one without chain.

In the following season, let the racers adapt their bikes as much as they want to the chainless run (aka reducing unsprung weight). We'd learn so much about this sport...
  • + 1
 The concept looks good no rear mech to trash no chain to break would be interesting most of the really gifted riders don`t use the brakes a lot any how would probably push design and progression of bigger front wheels smaller back ones a bit further courses would get a lot more extreme looks great on paper would make getting back to the top much the same as a snowboarder or skier bring it on i say!!!
  • + 1
 I won't be able to walk past the Åhléns without laughing. WAKI for president indeed - excellent artwork and wonderfully creative!

As an aside: I rode last year's Enduro Giant des Portes du Mercantour (EWS round this year) and they made us do one chainless run. Super fun!
  • + 1
 There's me thinking push bikes had chains and balance bikes don't. The only criticism I have would be the so called pedals ( can you call them that if they don't move?) I think it would take longer to get used to the foot position than the lack of chain, even then I bet many would struggle to take sharp corners and bunnyhop on a design like this. Chainless=crankless=hopeless!
  • - 1
 But they were meant to rotate like normal pedals...
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Ok. I see that but no cranks means that both feet are level. Almost all riders will have a favoured foot they like to keep in a forward position when freewheeling and hopping.
  • + 2
 @djm35: wow, how have mx bikes been turning corners all these years with out pedals??
  • + 4
 The first one looks like a Lahar!
  • + 1
 we still need crank arms to be able to rotate around the bottom bracket, not for pedaling but for creating progressive traction through turns on the outside foot. How would we "snap" turns with our feet static and parallel?
  • + 1
 Peddles bolted to the frame would never work - still need to rotate them up or down for cornering and shifting your weight. Also can add Marcelo winning Whistler Garbonzo DH with the chain off.
  • + 3
 Some of the top riders ride with pedals leveled (Sik Mik) and shifting weight back and forward can be done as with regular cranks pedals. Besides look at MX or moto trials
  • + 7
 @WAKIdesigns: MX riders sit down in corners, MTB riders stand up... There's quite a difference there.
  • - 3
 @RossGreen15: I don't know. As I said there are many riders riding with leveled pedals all the time, incl. corners. I personally have no clue how am I riding. you must admit that standing with one foot forward and back is more akward than standing with feet in line perpendicularly to the direction of movement. And well, that was just a loose idea...
  • + 6
 @WAKIdesigns: Moto trials footpegs are level and bolted to the frame, but have about 90 degrees of pivot so the rider can be heel down or toe down. Compromise? (They're also spring loaded so if you bash them on a rock they fold upwards instead of catching. That would be nice too...)
  • + 4
 @WAKIdesigns: Standing with one foot forward and back may seem awkward, but it is the default stance of all martial arts as it provide the most stability. On a bike this grants you yaw control. Since the crank is gone, I would think independent crank arms may be useful, shorter, like 100mm or so, would allow lower outside cg for turning, and massive front back movement with both front or both back. A control mechanism would need to be invented, perhaps auto controlled to each trail via gps.
  • + 2
 @ryetoast: what kinda of moto have you ridden that comes stock with 90' degree pivoting pegs ? First off moto pegs are not "bolted" onto the frame . They are mounted with a pin through the frame/peg and a spring. The spring does allow the peg to go upwards and back in the event of hitting it . But most stock pegs that I'm aware of do not have any degree of rotation for moving . You can purchase pegs from the brand 'Pivot Pegs" or I think "fast way" might make some . But even those don't go a full 90 degrees .
  • + 4
 @qman11: I said moto triaaaaaaaaaaalssssss! To satisfy demand for accuracy, I just went out to the garage and this particular 2005 Beta (bought used, i.e. some parts may not be stock) has footpegs that are stuck to the frame with actual bolts, so the roll and pitch rotation are taken care of in the pedal assembly itself, not in the attachment mechanism. And yeah, it only has about 45 degrees of pitch. I guessed 90 because that's what it feels like when you're used to an enduro bike and not expecting them to move at all. Razz
  • + 7
 @WAKIdesigns: One of our crew snapped a mech hanger last year in the Alps, couldn't get a new one so dumped the drivetrain and proceeded to leave us all behind as soon as it got steep and gnarly. Old school Welsh Dragon DH races used to show very little variance on the chainless run too. It could be the future for some tracks (stip the mech, new wheel with no cassette).

I'm not sure on the common pedal axis though. Might be OK for clips, but on flats a lot of mechanical grip is generated by making a 'v' with the feet, kind of like what rock climbers refer to as an 'Egyptian' : the leading heel is dropped and so is the trailing toe. The offset of the cranks allows the feet to form a V and outward pressure gives pedal grip. Bryceland, Hill and Kovarik demonstrate this well, can be seen on pics of them in the air. It can also help progress the outside foot in a flat turn, like skiing, AKA 'laser cock', as well as drop COG onto the outside and raise the inside to lay the bike over in a turn while keeping weight over the top of the contact patch. MX, riders do this seated, but can also grip the bike with knees to keep hold of it in whoops and jumps, otherwise you just float off the pegs.

I don't know where the tipping point is though, I prefer 165mm to 175mm for DH partly due to less 'splay'. Short cranks and no chainring would be a cool setup to try.
  • - 3
 @gravityslaves: awesome insight!
  • + 2
 The reason you put your outside foot down cornering is to weight the outside pedal, which gets weight centered over the tires when the bikes is leaned. The only way to get more weight on this pedal is to position it straight down. With fixed pedals this is eliminated. Now you can weight either "pedal" instantly without shifting crank arms around.

I rode for a couple weeks in Whistler on a ~2005 V10 without drivetrain and it was one of the most enjoyable experiences! The positive benefits of no chain (and other components) is definitely noticable.
  • - 2
 @WAKIdesigns: not really, cornering on a bike (specially on berms) is to push wight upwards, while re positioning your core for balance. This means you are constantly being pushed down. A wider stance makes this motion easier specially on you knees and ankles. Most riders corner with their feet leveled unless they are on a flat corner, with low grip, or on off camber sections. In both of these cases not having cranks to move around would be rally bad.
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Aug 30, 2016 at 7:15) (Below Threshold)
 @wyone: i don't think that all wc riders drop their outside pedal. It's actualy a "don't ask, don't tell" topic amongst (better) skills coaches.
  • + 1
 @ryetoast: ohh okay lol yah trials are strange hahaha
  • + 1
 @gravityslaves: TLDR: LASER COCK
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Level or outside down is my conundrum, i was actually going to make a PB Poll for it ,
everyone in vids now seem to ride level pedals, even Nino did at the Olympics.
Awesome article by the way Smile
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Nice idea, but is no longer a mountain bike it is a scooter
  • - 3
 @pigman65: many drop the pedal for a tiny moment to load the bike in corner but the problem is that it always affects fore/aft balance, especially if you are to drop the leading foot. It seems more important to have the balance right and then be able to load the bike into whatever you need to. Just dropping the outside foot and riding statically through the course of the corner doesn't do much.
  • + 4
 We are currently "Telemark" biking and placing pedals in line with the bb would be more like "Alpine" biking
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I agree totally, dropping the foots like anal sex, you only get it on special occasions lol
  • + 1
 @ryetoast: I used to race motocross with those pivot pegs AND a left grip which had a rubber thingy so it would take the shock out of heavy landings plus a auto clutch . I still get abuse for mates lol ! ( BUT they worked ) . Waki is on to something with no pedals , it would make winning be all about skill instead of skill and 110% fitness ! Also they would have to mod the tracks to flow more .
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Could a longer seat similar to a moto be beneficial? Just wondering for sitting down in corners and stuff with the different crankarm feel.
  • + 1
 @racer585: That's so nineties, bro. Long seats were all the rage in DH back then
  • + 2
 Oh man, that is great @WAKIdesigns ! I bet we will see some of those concepts/designs applied by the industry some time soon. (without the chainless part of course)
  • + 0
 Maybe my experience is limited and maybe this was mentioned already, but every lift assisted downhill park I've been to has trails on the outsides that dump you a fair distance from the lift(s). How many parks out there have lifts right next to all their trail exits?
  • + 2
 Trestle @ Winter Park. Almost all the trails funnel you right into the pickup area of the smaller lift.
  • + 2
 Pila bike park has all of the trails running into the lift station at the bottom
  • + 2
 Summit at big bear
  • + 3
 Who wouldn't want to try that!!!!
  • + 0
 The extra fork bushing add more stiction not less. The stanchion is only bending at the 1st bushing and not at extra one. No need for it or the cast in cf uppers. Besides they'd burn in manufacturing...
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Aug 30, 2016 at 6:22) (Below Threshold)
 It's not an extra fork bushing. Two per leg. One in outer leg, one on inner, like in shivers
  • + 1
 i think chainless bikes will still have cranks arm. maybe a bit shorter. they should also user damper bearings, so that the crank arms don't spin too freely.
  • + 1
 I would prefer to have a normal bb with normal cranks but that has a certain resistante in both ways of spinning, it's essential for balance on the bike
  • + 1
 Nice, can you come up with a diagram or 'how to' for podium steeze...been seeing alot of supermans lately-its an mtb specific thing and its quite strange.Aka the lawwill
  • + 1
 Looks like a Trek Saison! The most refreshing and delicious bike on the WC circuit
  • + 2
 Waki Please do an article on the Transgender Tr420
  • + 1
 That would get banned... I entertained a thought for a while to call the bike Socialized A-Litigator
  • + 2
 This has been the best morning dook ive dropped in awhile... Thanks Waki!
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns: nice drawings - looks like a lot of work has gone in this post. Thank you for that!
  • + 1
 Waki, this is hilariously funny - in a very sharp and talented way! Thumbs up!
  • + 1
 God help you if you need a little more speed to clear that gap. Cranks and chain can save your bacon.
  • + 0
 Position of the pedals should be as they are even if you are not gonna pedal. Would be ackward to have the position of a motorbike, not cool for the corners and swithc backs
  • + 0
 You would need to have the foot pegs pivot up and down to allow for cornering with 1 foot on as well as general flexibility in air.
  • + 3
 Looks like a scooter
  • + 1
 these frames look familiar.....http://cdn.coresites.factorymedia.com/dirt_new/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/13.jpg
  • + 2
 Using drive shaft something like old BMW motorcycle
  • + 1
 @adirint: wooaahh.....that's pretty crazy. Impressive to pack it into something that compact. I would love to try that just for the heck of it
  • + 1
 @joalst: heck norris
  • + 0
 What's the e-bike version of this? A motor with an eccentric weight that lets you pump the track and hit jumps while riding like a dead sailor?
  • + 6
 You have used the e word that is even more evil than e-nduro.
  • + 2
 dealt with that already.....Zerode
  • + 1
 Yes, Rob has his bikes getting dialed now. He's come a long way from helping out at KeeWee. As an old riding buddy of mine, I wish him well, and hope everyone buys one of his new steeds...
  • + 1
 @handynzl: just did, can't wait!
  • + 1
 I was thinking the exact same thing while reading this Smile
  • + 1
 I knew I'd seen that first suspension design somewhere before......it's from a GT RTS circa 1993!
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Aug 30, 2016 at 7:04) (Below Threshold)
 I got inspired by the latest DH bike from Antidote and by Devinci Wilson Wink
  • + 2
 love it keep up the good work.
  • + 2
 But how would you do a Wheelie!!
  • + 3
 huh
  • + 1
 This is the next big thing for bikeparks !
  • + 1
 minion dhf on the front I see?
  • - 4
flag WAKIdesigns (Aug 30, 2016 at 7:00) (Below Threshold)
 Always! In Minion DHF we trust!
  • + 1
 I'm waiting for Waki's pedal-less DH design to drop .
  • + 1
 Blurring the lines between bike & scooter!
  • + 1
 Amish riders rejoice! Gwin, Ezekiel Jacob Alderfer is coming for YOU!
  • + 1
 its Aaron Gwin Signature pumpbike DH
Lol Big Grin
  • + 2
 Burn it at the stake!
  • + 1
 bottom bracket that low...she wouldn't jump bro! hahaha Wink love your work
  • + 1
 @WAKIdesigns you're a freak man, this is so awesome! Thanks Wink
  • + 1
 Once I saw 150mm and inverted fork I got wet...
  • + 1
 *insert take my money picture meme*
  • + 1
 Feck me someone's bored..Frown
  • + 1
 Good to see that the Schmetterling has some proper rubber on it!
  • + 1
 It's se Maxzis Minion DNF Wink
  • + 1
 Delusional brilliance. Or your the Nostradamus of the mountain bike world.
  • + 1
 " Aaron Gwin's chainless massacre" was in Leogang. Just saying.
  • - 2
 Ahhh... My bad. Say Schnitzeeeel! Big Grin
  • + 1
 I love the art work Waki - it's really detailed tup
  • + 1
 Looks like a scooter that is disguised as a bike.
  • + 2
 I love this
  • + 1
 Chainless massacre in **leogang
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 Not on 29s... i'll pass on the above offerings...
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 Great concept bike!
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 This is brilliant!
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 Bore off
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 Looks like a GT DHi
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 SOCIALIZED xD
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 Y me
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 "Chainstay length- Smile "
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 Nothing better than waking up to waki
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 I'm happy this sentence is one "n" short...
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 Not funny trying a bit too hard again.
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 couldn't agree more

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