YT Introduces New Limited Edition Top-Spec Alloy Capra

Nov 22, 2018 at 1:23
by YT Industries  

PRESS RELEASE: YT Industries

YT Industries is bringing a limited edition of the CAPRA 27 AL to the market. It comes with high-performance specs, a “raw” aluminium finish and is 100% carbon free. With only 200 units made, this limited edition will be available to order via the webshop at www.yt-industries.com.


100% CARBON FREE
YT Industries is launching a special edition of the CAPRA 27 AL to respond to demand for an aggressive aluminium bike with high performance components. The core of the limited edition is the elaborately-designed aluminium frame – 100% carbon free. It sets standards in aluminium workmanship as the multi-butted, hydroformed tubes not only keep the weight down and strength up but embodies the look of a true YT. So that’s what one should see: that’s why the CAPRA 27 AL Limited Edition strips down and goes for a clean “raw” aluminium look. High quality components round up the wild character of the CAPRA 27 AL Ltd., and turn it into a unique bike that the Goatman himself would be proud to ride.

Shot by Ale Di Lullo.
Bryan Regnier riding the new CAPRA 27 AL Limited Edition. Photo credit: Ale Di Lullo.

COMPONENTS
Equipped with the FOX 36 Float Factory fork and the FOX DHX2 Factory shock, the CAPRA Ltd stands ready to take on demanding trails and bike park laps. With 180mm of super smooth travel, the FOX 36 Float Factory fork provides unrivalled traction and keeps you on course in the roughest of conditions. The heavy-duty FOX DHX2 Factory shock with its lightweight SLS steel spring combines maximum performance with a wide range of adjustment, for that extra rear end sensitivity that gives you the ability to deal with any terrain. Plush and poised, the bike still provides enough feedback to allow you to know what it's doing. For better efficiency on the way back up the hill, the shock can also be locked out with a simple flick of a switch. With massive gear range and the robustness to match it, the 1x11 drivetrain is ready to deal with any conditions. E*thirteen’s 9-46 tooth cassette is the first choice when it comes to aggressive trail riding and tough racing. SRAM’s Code RSC brakes with adjustable reach and bite point provide optimal modulation, and with 200mm Centerline rotors both front and back you’ll never find yourself lacking in stopping power. The Kashima coated FOX Transfer Factory dropper post scores high marks with infinite travel adjustment, ease of use and reliable performance. The Renthal cockpit and e*thirteen TRS+ wheels round out the Ltd build in style.



GEOMETRY
With the CAPRA, YT has combined the capabilities of a full-blown DH machine with the climbing prowess of a trail bike. With short chainstays and a slack head angle, the modern geometry delivers just the right combination of agility and stability. The CAPRA 27 is made for those who are looking for the liveliness of a trail bike with the suspension travel reserves of a downhill bike. Thanks to that extra travel, it sticks to the ground as a real DH rig would. The slack head angle and the long wheelbase ensure stability at speed, while the short chainstays provide a poppy, agile feel and an appetite for railing corners. Without compromise, a true downhill weapon – that you can also ride without a lift.

Shot by Ale Di Lullo.
Ace Hayden in Portugal with the new CAPRA 27 AL Limited Edition. Photo credit: Ale Di Lullo.

YT TAILOR MADE
The CAPRA 27 AL Limited Edition is available in five frame sizes, from S to XXL. This wide range ensures that every rider can find a suitable frame size. YT’s Tailor Made concept gives every rider the choice of two or even three frame sizes, depending on preferred reach and riding style. The concept is made possible by a combination of low seat tubes and dropper posts. The choice of frame size no longer depends solely on the height of the rider, giving everybody the option of running anything from moderate to extra-long reach numbers.

Shot by Ale Di Lullo.
Shot by Ale Di Lullo.

AVAILABILITY
The CAPRA 27 AL Limited Edition is available on the YT web shop. 200 unique pieces will be available, 100 bikes in the US and 100 in the EU. Customers from the US can order and buy the bike immediately. European customers can preorder the bike starting November, 22nd, 2018. It will be available starting November, 28th 2018.


205 Comments

  • + 112
 All YT bikes are limited edition since they are always out of stock.
  • + 2
 HAHAHA true!!!
  • + 3
 preach
  • + 9
 Seriously. There's only been ONE time in that past year I've look at their bikes online and they've been in stock. Hopefully next year they'll fix their supply issues
  • + 1
 Funny. And true.
  • + 4
 Why don’t they just make more? Make more money.
  • + 1
 not true for TUES
  • + 4
 Right? Heard about the release of this model and thought "Even though I kinda wanted to go carbon frame with my next bike, this is a smokin deal! And the coil rear is more my style anyhow." Thought I'd take a few days to make a definite decision before I throw down 4 grand, only to wake up this morning and find that they're all sold out already in LG. Hopefully they see the demand for this now and produce a similar spec 2019 Capra.
  • + 1
 This hits close to home haha. Got my Jeffsy 5 weeks late and consider myself lucky. Bike looks amaaaaazing IRL though, so there's that.
  • + 104
 99% carbon free, the xtr derailleur and shifter have carbon
  • + 35
 Pretty sure tyres contain carbon too
  • + 168
 @maglor: steel is iron plus carbon so every bolt, chain link, spoke, some of the rear cogs, bearings, brake rotors and probably some fork internals, and the seat is probably a hydrocarbon based foam, the suspension oil might be hydrocarbon based, so all in all not that carbon free. Carbon fibre free maybe, but not carbon.



Yes I'm a pedantic bastard.



No I don't care.
  • + 8
 XXL - sold out.... Damn...
  • - 16
flag chyu (Nov 22, 2018 at 3:51) (Below Threshold)
 Here we go. All the carbon hate comments.
  • + 8
 @Jonnydarocca: Considering the S and XXL are sold out, i think it is more a matter of them not even making them for this limited run, sorry!
  • + 31
 Also the rider will have about 18% carbon...
  • + 14
 @inked-up-metalhead: I just think it’s badass that you used the word “pedantic”......
  • + 8
 @Mugen: all options sold out now (looking at their site from UK) I think it’s more a case of people wanting high-spec suspension on Ali frame for value, and not many companies offering that. If they did they’d sell like hot cakes.
  • + 2
 Well for only $3500 USD (a steal imo) I suppose you have enough change left over to afford to be petty :-p
  • + 2
 Does anyone know the total weight of this beauty?
  • + 1
 @RBWebb: I've gotta ask why? It's a regular part of my vocabulary, though I have told I can be quite eloquent at times, especially if I'm insulting someone lol
  • + 2
 @Gilmarques: about 15kg
  • + 3
 @Gilmarques: right off the website link

WEIGHT*
14,5 KG / 31,9 LB

* Weight measured without pedals in frame size S. Due to manufacturing tolerances of the individual components the bike weight may differ +/- 5%
  • + 3
 i poop carbon.
  • + 3
 @RBWebb: the Brit's common vocabulary it littered with use of such words. It's brilliant. Imagine watching the TDF hosted by a couple of yanks. Sweet mother of pearl.
  • + 6
 "I find this meatloaf rather shallow and pedantic"
  • + 1
 @chyu: Carbon is the solution to everything, but wait, what was the issue again?
  • + 2
 You eat pieces of carbon for breakfast??
  • + 4
 Aluminium ain't dead
  • + 1
 amazing zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • + 1
 Human beings are carbon-based units if you want to split hairs. I got a DHX2 with a climb switch on my old CF Capra.This looks beautiful, but I'm good for now.
  • + 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: hmmmm what does pedantic even mean
  • + 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: love it mate! Best PB response to an advertising article anytime!

Never apologise for pedantry Smile
  • + 1
 @castlemtn: pedantic; excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous
  • + 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: you said pedantic... LOL
  • + 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: I 100% endorse this comment.
  • + 1
 @aps62: Giant Glory 1 2019. Alu frame with DVO suspension and GX DH groupset with the X01 DH cassette. Absolute dream spec on alu frame.
  • + 57
 Props to YT! I'm not a fan of carbon because given the choice I would rather spend money on a better spec than a slightly lighter frame. Also I'm not so convinced of the benefits of carbon anyway. Most manufacturers seem to see aluminium frames as the budget option and so usually spec budget components with it, or it ends up being an after thought and never has the same aesthetic appeal as the equivalent carbon frame. I'm liking this resurgence in good looking aluminium frames with equally good spec like this, also the new stumpjumper and commencal models. And I just can't get enough of that brushed metal look!
  • + 0
 Here here, I much prefer alley frame with carbon components. Weight isn’t really a factor for me, a light bike doesn’t handle as well
  • + 9
 One would be all over a 29er of this. One hopes they will do one next year with the 12 speed xtr and coil shock!
  • - 3
 @mattvanders: +1 to that
  • - 8
flag BiNARYBiKE (Nov 22, 2018 at 5:29) (Below Threshold)
 "I would rather spend money on a better spec than a slightly lighter frame." To be fair, if you have enough $$$ it's not an either/or.
  • - 19
flag DrPete Plus (Nov 22, 2018 at 5:47) (Below Threshold)
 Alloy isn’t just heavier—it’s not as durable as a carbon frame of the same weight.
  • + 2
 @mattvanders: thats why my canfield balance is , to date, the best bike I have had.
  • + 44
 Carbon + high spec = rich people's choice, alu + high spec = wise people's choice.
  • + 4
 @lkubica: preach
  • + 0
 @DrPete: If we're getting in to the details... "alloy" is not = aluminium.

For arguments sake I'll assume you meant aluminium alloys. A well done carbon frame will have a higher yield strength (in most instances) than an aluminium frame of the same dimensions. That being said the shortcomings of the material are typically made up for by increasing wall thicknesses. So yes, your statement is in a general sense correct.

I don't have any concrete numbers to back it up, but I believe because of the composition of carbon (woven Fibers held together with epoxy resin), it's more susceptible to impact damage than aluminum of the same thickness.

Anyhow, I'm not a materials expert, so I'll just get outta here...
  • + 2
 @ssteve: youtu.be/w5eMMf11uhM

These guys do have numbers.
  • - 4
flag DrPete Plus (Nov 22, 2018 at 7:40) (Below Threshold)
 @lkubica: Just depends on how often you want to replace your frame. Not sure how wise it is to buy the frame you need to replace more often.
  • + 2
 LOL @ downvoting a company doing a head to head comparison of its own Al and Carbon frames. Truth hurts.
  • + 7
 @DrPete: This video is marketing BS. They stress the carbon frame in the exact way it's built to be stressed. Carbon IS very strong vs. normal stresses, but it's also more susceptible to impact damage vs. aluminium, which also happens to be the more common type of frame damage.
  • + 2
 @rezrov: maybe but you can generally fix that impact damage on carbon.
  • + 15
 @DrPete: Stick to medicine sir... I'm a professional in the carbon fiber industry and I can assure you that it is not the most appropriate material for 95% of it's application in the mountain bike industry. If you really think carbon fiber is more durable than aluminum, especially how it is made in the bike industry, you have some flawed sources and information.
  • + 1
 @millsr4: what about fatigue resistance which is better carbon or alloy?
  • + 0
 @DrPete: as if you’ve fallen for this. Try watching it with the sound up. That frame was unrideable well before it snapped in two.
  • + 3
 carbon isn’t a better material for making frames than alloys. Better race bikes? Possibly but not better Mountain bikes that get crashed, rub up against stuff on lifts etc and since hardly anyone races why do we keep having these carbon bikes pushed on us?
  • + 4
 @FCX250: It completely depends on your layup schedule and application. Generally speaking I would take aluminum any day when your talking fatigue on mountain bikes. Metal shows signs of fatigue/damage where as composites can hide problems internally that don't present themselves until catastrophic failure. If you really want carbon to be appropriate you need to add some other materials to increase durability and toughness like kevlar or something but that would increase the already high cost of production.

I will put the disclaimer out there that I deal with carbon tooling rather than part and layup design... Wink
  • - 6
flag DrPete Plus (Nov 22, 2018 at 17:03) (Below Threshold)
 @millsr4: is that why there are no aluminum rims that come with lifetime warranties and a growing number of carbon rims that do? You simultaneously say that the strength and durability depend on material and layup, then make a blanket statement about all carbon bike parts. You’re contracting yourself.
  • - 7
flag DrPete Plus (Nov 22, 2018 at 17:08) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah, it’s far more likely that the bike industry is leading a conspiracy to build and sell inferior carbon bikes (which cost way more to make) and dupe is into buying them just so they can support their lavish lifestyles. Those yacht payments don’t make themselves, I guess.
  • + 7
 @DrPete: Carbon rims have lifetime warranties because riders don't want to spend $2000 on wheels that are going to f*ckin' snap like a twig...

Aluminium rims ding/bend rather than crack/explode, and they're cheap to replace. There's a reason enduro racers use alloy rims.
  • + 5
 @DrPete: People like you are exactly why there is a general dislike of the "dentist" in the mountain bike community and why carbon bike components exist... it's not a conspiracy theory, it's called marketing/sales and you are falling hook, line, and sinker...
  • + 1
 @DrPete: Hey, if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will. I got spare time.
  • + 4
 @DrPete: they have a lifetime warranty because it’s the only way people are going to buy overpriced plastic wheels that are going to crack.
  • + 2
 @millsr4: I was under the impression that carbon frames don’t really cost more or much more than alloy frames. They can just sell them for more?

Cheapest lowest grade carbon made by children in China vs highest grade alloys hand made in Taiwan? Should even out right?
  • + 1
 @thenotoriousmic: I've been all over this topic just out of my own interest. For a hardtail, the price of carbon is a little more by all accounts. For a fully, it is more by up to 50% depending on specifics of the design. Carbon also has the benefit of being in alignment every time. I got this info from a guy I know who is chief engineer for a medium size bike company.
  • + 1
 @jaame: obviously not an expert but how I understand it carbon frames are slightly more expensive at first but once you’ve bought the moulds etc it’s super cheap where you’re constantly buying cutters etc for alloy frames etc so eventually they work out around the same in manufacturing costs. Ether way what are we paying and extra £1000 - £1500 on carbon for if we’re not racing?
  • + 2
 @thenotoriousmic: I have never done the numbers myself, and once again your layup schedule has a lot to do with this here, but I can tell you that carbon manufacturing is pretty labor intensive and that is where most of the repeat costs come in. For instance, cutting the hundreds of different pieces that make up a carbon frame are usually done by hand (CNC machines doe exist for this but not common in the bike industry) and then each one of those pieces has to be placed in the mold my hand also(robots for this may exist but would be SUPER pricey). On the other side of this, aluminum frame assembly is pretty straight forward. The tubes are formed in big hydraulic machines that can pump out hundreds of pieces with a single operator, then put into jigs and welded up but this only takes as much time as the cure would on a carbon frame.

Like @jaame mentioned, you do have some benefits with carbon construction like better alignment which saves time/money but you still have to machine in bearing bores after your components come out of the molds. You also don't need to heat treat the frames after assembly which saves some cost.
  • + 1
 Also I would say I am not a carbon fanboy. I have two carbon bikes currently, both of which are the only carbon bikes I have ever owned, and both of which I bought second hand on the cheap. My Santa Cruz nomad fell off the back of my cat this year at the freeway speed limit, and after inspection was not visibly damaged. I've been using it since the accident in May and it's still going strong. Could have been lucky but I would testify to its strength and resilience. Regarding the alignment, it gives better bearing life. Also the smooth forms make it easier to clean because there are fewer little spaces for mud to stick.
If the frame costs an extra $300-400 to make, are you happy to pay an extra $1000-1500 to own one, that's the question. Also the thing I like about metal is the craftsmanship is evident. You can't say that for the fantastic plastic.
  • + 1
 @jaame: Your bike sounds like a ticking time bomb... my absolute biggest issue with using carbon for mountain bike frames is the lack of damage witness left. You could have completely separated and splintered internal plys somewhere in your frame and it will just take the right scenario for them to fail catastrophically... For me new carbon frames seem like a waste of money but used ones are downright dangerous.
  • + 1
 @millsr4: Not trying to be rude, but are you a carbon expert? I asked Santa Cruz, they said it might be OK, but that it needs to have a thorough inspection by a carbon expert. I had it thoroughly inspected by a carbon expert, and my local bike shop, and no one could find any visible signs of damage which all agreed was remarkable. One guy is a carbon layup engineer, and he said there would probably be external damage if there was internal damage. Anyway it's holding up well. Some components were not so lucky and they got replaced of course. It could be that all carbon is not the same and what Santa Cruz is doing is not the same as everyone else. I passed on a Capra before I bought the nomad because the finish quality was terrible actually. The tubes weren't even flat on the sides.
I do want a Capra though. For that reason, I would love to go for high spec alloy.
  • + 1
 @jaame: Since the larges & mediums were all gone in less than 24 hours and I wasn't able to snag one.... Yeah, I'm hoping for the same. Bring back this package for 2019 in both 27 & 29!!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 @DrPete: I've been riding the same alloy frame since 2010. Everything from Sedona pedaling to chairlift gravity days. I have yet to see ANY reason to replace my frame out of "safety concerns". I think people are just paranoid honestly. Of course this is coming from a rider who only weighs about 150 lbs too. LOL
  • + 3
 @tmwjr777: the only frame kit they do is the Capra cf pro race with the float x2. I would like to see this brushed aluminium frame released as a kit with the dhx2. Better still, a chassis like commencal does with frame, fork, shock, headset and wheels if you want. You can finish the build yourself, but you get the key components at OEM rate.
  • + 1
 Agree with this 1000%. Spend an extra grand on your suspension, not your frame yah filthy animals.
  • + 1
 @jaame: Technically my expertise is in machining and machined parts. I may not be a carbon lay up "expert" but I do know that probably not having damage just isn't good enough fro me, I want to know for sure. These machines(bikes) failing can literally be life or death in the right scenario. The only way to actually know if there is damage or not is to use ultrasonic inspection methods. Every carbon panel or component that goes into an airplane gets inspected in this way for internal voids and inconsistencies. As far as I know the bike industry does nothing more than check visually like you said and that just is unacceptable to me when there could be issues hidden internally.

In the end it really comes down to how you are using your bike. If you are sending 20+ foot gaps riding DH and/or bike parts I would strongly suggest you replace that carbon frame...
  • + 1
 @millsr4: I would have replaced it already if I could afford another without copping a load of shit from my wife. Well, she wouldn't give me shit if she thought it was f*cked, but she doesn't think it's f*cked because I told her it's not f*cked. I guess time will tell. As I say, I have been using it normally since May. We will have to see what happens over the coming months or years. As with anything in life, everyone has their own cost benefit analysis to perform before they do anything. I drive my car without a seatbelt and I ride my motorbike with flip flops. On the other hand I won't take the risk on a lottery ticket.
  • + 1
 @jaame: on the plus side Santa Cruz is known for having a awesome warranty so at least if it does break. You’re probably getting a new frame.
  • + 3
 @thenotoriousmic: they already told me about the crash replacement etc, but I'm not the original owner so it doesn't apply. In not that into VPP so I wouldn't buy another. I think Horst link is better, me.
  • + 2
 @jaame: haha I know what you mean. I talk a big game on safety but I'm still riding a 10 year old aluminum frame (that can't be safe at this point with the amount of dents, scratches and tumbles it's seen) because an engagement ring and dog surgery got in the way of an upgrade this past season. I'm all for individuals deciding the risk they want to take, my only issue is the misconception that carbon is such a great material for bicycle components and people not properly understanding the risks they are taking. I'm just trying to inform the masses when I can Wink
  • + 1
 @acali: Tommy Boy
  • + 1
 @granite: Housekeeping!
  • + 28
 I like to think my comment on the original Capra release post of "No high spec alloy models is disappointing" has contributed to this bikes existence!
  • + 8
 Commencal has you covered - their brushed al top trim models are yummy
  • + 3
 @NotNamed: As much as I like Commencal bikes, their spec on their high end bikes apart from suspension is often pretty low to mid-tier. GX Eagle, house brand cockpit etc, OEM pinned TRS wheels etc. I'd still have one, but I'd swap out a bunch of parts.
  • + 20
 Aaand... they're sold out. Like the rest of their bikes.
  • + 6
 You might want keep checking. Typically YT shows ‘sold out’ upon release and then later they pop up with an estimated date for delivery.
  • + 6
 So 30 minutes ago usa site showing only Med available

Now showing only S and XXL available, so I think they’re shifting it around some, keep checking!
  • + 3
 Keep refreshing the page. It changes every time.
  • + 13
 Excellent. Long live aluminium bikes!
  • + 10
 Finally a high spec alu capra and ofcourse it's sold out. Thanks for nothing.
  • + 7
 whats the point of sharing when nothing is ever in stock. I don't know who these 200 people are that are willing to throw down in the first hours of it being available. Seems like buying YTs is a lot like buying concert tickets
  • + 5
 Yes that's what I was thinking. Some of us need a few months to sell our bike on, scrape a bit of cash together before we can order.
  • + 7
 I wonder if this frame is actually lighter than carbon version. Paint can add about 200gr on bigger frames and YT carbon frames are not really lightweight, so the actual frame weights could be quite close.
  • + 5
 I think it’s around 2lbs heavier full bike than the top carban models however they have air shocks where this has coil and carbon cranks over alloy so the frame itself probably Isn’t much heavier
  • + 10
 'YT introduces new Capra in Ra'...SOLD OUT
  • + 9
 More of this. All brands. I can only afford a alloy bike. I pretty much stripped everything off my AL Jeffsy
  • - 9
flag DrPete Plus (Nov 22, 2018 at 5:50) (Below Threshold)
 So if this bike had a carbon frame and sold for the same price you couldn’t afford it?
  • + 7
 @DrPete: can't afford to take the chance with carbon maybe...same concerns here! Just spent a whole day checking out the AL offerings...was pretty much resigned to the new Reign sx Al. Saw this , went diriectly to the site...sold out. Then I came to the comments, ha.
  • + 7
 @DrPete: It wont be the same price.....typically carbon frams are 1k more.
  • - 6
flag DrPete Plus (Nov 22, 2018 at 9:02) (Below Threshold)
 @inverted180: but not always. There may also be some spec differences that make a carbon bike at the same price worthwhile.
  • + 0
 @rcrdrvr: I guess my point was just that there are some carbon bikes out there that may have a lower spec but are a good buy vs Al because of the frame. I was just making the point against a blanket statement that carbon isn’t affordable in all cases.
  • + 4
 @DrPete: Can’t afford to take the chance. If my only bike is carbon, and it takes serious hit, I’m screwed. Alloy, steel, metal can take some big slams
  • + 4
 @DrPete: usually the lower cost carbon models are made with lower grade carbon so.....
  • + 0
 @slayersxc17: check out the video where Santa Cruz proves you wrong using their Al and carbon Nomad frames.
  • + 3
 Santa Cruz proved nothing with that video... go and watch it again.
  • - 2
 @thenotoriousmic: They certainly didn't prove that aluminum can take a bigger hit than carbon.
  • + 2
 @DrPete: @DrPete: I thought that vid was impressive, but pointing out "way back then", all the stress was put linear with the fork, even when they were smacking that frame it was right under the head tube inline to where it's designed to take the most force. So for sure it's relevant, people do sometimes plow right into stuff coming up short on a jump, etc. And I guess you could impact a rock right under the headset??? BUT I think it's the non linear side/angled loads that the carbon weave wasn't specifically laid up for, and not just on the bottom of the largest tube on the bike that people worry about and that the SC video did not address... ALSO, as pointed out by many in the comments of that video. The carbon was de laminating/popping audibly right off the bat in that test so it's not necessarily true that the carbon frame lasted longer than the aluminum??? It could have been ruined in the first test and slowly but surely the carbon would continue to de-lam until a catastrophic failure?? Don't know...

I'm not against carbon, but seeing a "gouge" in the carbon is pretty concerning VS small dents in an aluminum frame doesn't phase me.

On a side note, Doesn't it seem like the paint on carbon frames seems to chip and scratch WAY more than painted AL? I sure don't how quick the carbon gets exposed in the area's that are getting beat up the most! It makes me wonder if they are purposely using thinner coats of paint to try and make that Carbon weight difference seem more impressive than it really is??? Just wondering...
  • + 10
 Damn, we now live in times when an aluminum frame is exclusive.
  • + 9
 bike manufacturers-more of this please
  • + 7
 One of the best looking mountain bikes ever made. Reminds me of the Intense bikes like Socom.
  • + 8
 Who cares about hating on carbon, still doesn't hold a water bottle.
  • + 4
 This is the reason I got a Gambler. Not many companies specing out their alloy models. Im not going to say that alloy is better than carbon, but it is better for me and that is what matters. Good on you YT for recognizing the market and running with it.
  • + 5
 what a joke, all that marketing etc. and then they do 25 per size for europe. really like it, i hesitated 2 hours because of the price (and not informed wife) -sold out
  • + 11
 They say it was release to meet demand for top spec aluminum bikes and then release such limited numbers. What a joke. To meet demand were going to make a very limited number. Why even bother...itll just piss most of the real demanding customers off...Im sorry you missed out.
  • + 14
 this was likely a market research to see how big demand is for top-spec aluminium bikes. i reckon if demand was as high as this forum gives the impression, a top-spec Capra (and maybe other models) will make it into their lineup.

that being said: do it for the next gen Jeffsy as well, so I won't have to do it myself... again Big Grin
  • + 4
 You were warned - it’s your fault Wink
  • + 2
 @jamesdunford: my wife says i am very good in blaming others for my faults, so there u go. Wink
  • + 1
 @wowbagger: Yeah it is their idea for sure as their 2019 bikes won't be announced until at least January as people are saying so that give them some time to adjust I guess. At least I hope as I am looking for a new ''cheap'' bike this winter! Smile
  • + 5
 I took less time thinking, tried dozens or times to buy a medium while website showed it still available. Couldn’t add it to basket and got an error message every time.
I think this is a PR exercise and this bike wasn’t for sale at all.
  • + 1
 @Vastusaurus: lol I went on the canadian website to see the black friday's deal (about 5% what a joke! Better wait and have a new Fox grip 2 or Lyrik charger 2 fork on 2019 models!!!) and this bike was on it! Pinkbike said only USA and Europe.. and I could even add an xl in my basket! lol
  • + 1
 @wowbagger:@wowbagger: I keep thinking about maybe scaling back with my next ride, to make it easier to pedal. I have always liked the Capra and would consider a Jeffsy.... If only they would have a few models spec'ed with a little more aggressive build(Fox 36 & Float X2 instead of a 32 and a DPX for example) I like dig the Jeffsy, but I have my doubts that it would hold up well to the punishment I'd put it through and feel stable enough for me. Hopefully someone at YT reads this shit. There's a lot of valuable rider feedback for them here on this page.
  • + 3
 Wow that is EXACTLY what I was looking for!!!! Didn't want carbon but better spec alloy was still a bit low spec for me... We NEED exactly the same bike, same shock, same color, but in 29inch wheels in CANADA!! Pleaasseeee!!!!!
  • + 2
 Commencal Meta 29.
  • + 2
 @rezrov: If I don't have a bike next spring, I'll demo those for sure but won't be buying without trying as I'm not in love with their geo (meta 27 and 29)... Love the price, the look, the spec but 13inch bb for the meta 27 is just stupid IMO. My friend got one and he loves it but I'm more into climbing (technical) than him so would love something that do it better!

Would REALLY prefer to deal with Commencal than YT Canada though...
  • + 5
 One hell of a park bike there! Match to the Canyon Torque, that sort of bracket is turning into something interesting!
  • + 2
 freeride...it's always been there...haha
  • + 2
 @rcrdrvr: freeride bikes you can pedal, bring it on.
  • + 5
 That thing is hell sick. Customers in Australia can get stuffed though haha.
  • + 4
 Again!!
  • + 2
 Yea too bad hey I would have been keen
  • + 5
 Woke up this morning early and scored a medium! So stoked!
  • + 5
 200 bikes sold in a day × 3'500 USD = 700'000 USD
What a day for YT !
  • + 1
 It's fun reading all the bickering about carbon vs aluminum. Let me join! As someone who is probably a better rider than 95% of you f*cks (I say the lovingly) and owning both aluminum and carbon bikes over the years: it doesn't matter what material the bike is made out of! What matter is the quality of the craftsmanship and the performance. Does carbon dampen vibrations better? Yes. Is carbon lighter? Yes but not enough to make a difference unless you are the 1% trying to shave seconds off your time. Developing better riding skills will do more than your damn material that your bike is made out of. People focus on the wrong shit: suspension, tires, and geo is what counts.
  • + 4
 What?! No comments about the lack of bottle cage?! What is this world coming to?!
  • + 2
 they need to just make this a production model, It's exactly what we want! High end alloy is where it's at! and at $3500 the price is very right.
  • + 1
 "Annnnnd - its Gone!"

Anyways what's with this Carbon / Alu crap? Where's my Silica / Graphite / Ceramic / Dentist Tooth Filling Material bike??
The industry is so stuck in its ways.
  • + 2
 Maybe since Gwin and Neko are gone (rumors), it will free up some serious cash. New models, better everything. I’d like to see a steel slack 29er hardtail.
  • + 3
 To all bike manufacturers: MORE OF THIS.
  • + 3
 More top spec alloy builds please!
  • + 2
 Bike might not be carbon, but this comment section is fully 100% carbon based
  • + 1
 first thing to do with a aluminium yt is to check the frame alignment and then you call them and they say its was hand built (by a blind guy)..........
  • + 3
 I just GOT the last US XL! Who wants to buy my YETI?
  • + 2
 Someone please put a dual crown on this thing. That’s something I would love to see. This bikes gorg.
  • + 3
 SOLD OUT!!! even before you read this post.
  • + 0
 If you're actually upset that this is maybe sold out already, Commencal has been making aluminium, top spec, brushed, ballin' enduro bike for a long time (the Meta AM). And now there's also a 29er version.
  • + 3
 put 29er wheels on it and I'm getting the next release!
  • + 2
 can't freeride with a 29'er
  • + 2
 @rcrdrvr: lol what?
  • + 0
 @gnarnaimo: well maybe if they make a Reign with 29's I'd be down, maybe. Some of the rock drops I do, I couldn't imagine being comfortable going off the lip. Although it's hella bumpy with immovable lava rock mostly, so I guess it'd help.
  • + 3
 also-it has extra rear end sensitivity. i like that...
  • + 3
 It’s not available until 11/28
  • + 2
 My bike is carbon fibre free. I notice they don't post the weight on this advertorial.
  • + 1
 Banshee bikes have progressive geometry, great spec and are beautifully built at an affordable price
  • + 2
 That's an insanely good deal. Good god.
  • + 2
 Price just out of interest?
  • + 3
 It was £3200 and they have sold them all this morning.
  • + 1
 @Patrick9-32: wow. That is an excellent deal. Please, please YT, make a full run of this in 29", with the coil and not that DPX2
  • + 2
 Please offer it in the 29er!!!
  • + 3
 Goatman aka Baphomet.
  • + 4
 HAIL SATAN \M/
  • + 1
 After 10 years of carbon being sexy yt just made the absence of carbon desirable. Great ad trend by the way ahah
  • + 1
 More power to alum framed bikes! .....but not that silly e-powered power....
  • + 1
 Finally they put a coil on a stock build. The new capra rides so much better with a coil!
  • + 3
 200th comment
  • + 0
 Is take a Commencal aluminum over this and the Commencal has better everything
  • + 1
 Maybe they could produce some sultans for dt?
  • + 2
 SOLD OUT
  • + 1
 Buys bike. Adds carbon headset spacers. Not limited edition no more...
  • + 0
 What else is new, all their bikes are always not available! This is genius marketing!
  • + 1
 Nice photos, taken in São Brás de Alportel, Algarve, Portugal!!!
  • + 1
 So....carbon is now the enemy...to justify the asking price?
  • + 3
 OH, wait... ...that's relatively pretty good. I should have looked first before crying about it.
  • + 1
 All sizes available. Reboot USA guys
  • + 1
 There's carbon in everything.....
  • + 1
 Medium and large sold out Frown I hope they do another run of them.
  • + 1
 Keep updating the page and the might show up in stock I just ordered a large
  • + 2
 It's already sold out!
  • + 1
 Filmed in Portugal, Algarve. Fonte férrea bike park. Great!
  • + 1
 99% sold out upon release
  • + 1
 Mine shipped today! yeah!
  • + 1
 So-o-o, is it carbon free?
  • + 1
 S and XL currently available US
  • + 1
 This is what we need.
  • + 1
 smart....
  • + 1
 ALL SOLD OUT HAHAHAHA DE
  • + 1
 Such a nice bike Drool
  • + 0
 The YT guys are just tying to get some of that RAAW Madona on 'em.
  • + 1
 Fuck yeah. 1st thought too.
  • + 0
 OH MY GOD 3
  • - 3
 word!!!!!!!!!
  • - 2
 Bite the back of hand beautiful bike, even though I am a carbon SC guy.
  • - 2
 swap out the E13 an sram for Hope an then drool
  • + 10
 Go for a ride
  • + 4
 I can’t lie, I just put Code RSCs on a new build and I prefer them over the Tech 3 V4s on my other bike.
  • - 3
 YT shafted and dropped Gwin. Got what they needed and now have a no name cheap team. You'll find out in Jan, sssshhh
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