A Fully Silent Hub, a Futuristic Saddle, & More - Taipei Cycle Show 2022

Mar 16, 2022 at 13:00
by Alicia Leggett  
We took another virtual lap through Taipei Cycle Online for some more interesting bits and bobs. This time, it's a roundup of a very interesting saddle, some eco-friendly brake pads, and a silent hub.



All-Wings Saddles



These saddles are all wings and no nose, available in the full-flight Falcon version, which came out in 2017, and stubbier Hornet model, which is new for this year. The wild design is meant to eliminate soreness by moving the weight distribution entirely to the sitbones - where the weight should already mostly be. Wild? Absolutely. Beneficial? Maybe. The saddle of the future? I'm not holding my breath, but there might be something to it, and regardless, it's very cool to see such an innovative design for something as easy to take for granted as a saddle.




Greentech Prestige Gravel E-Bike



I don't love to admit it, but e-gravel is pretty hot right now. I'm not even going to try to write about why that might be, but regardless, there are countless new e-gravel bikes on the market including this new, extremely yellow bike that stores its battery in the seat tube, rather than the downtube like most e-bikes do. The yellow - which coats all of Greentech's bikes - is meant to signify energy, "which we definitely need for this year," a representative for Greentech's parent company Asia Bicycle Trading Company said. (True.)



PSB Eco-Pads



Premium Solutions for Bicycles has created an eco-friendly brake pad that aims to bring heat dissipation technology from high-end bikes to the lower end of the market. The pads use a simple Y-shaped design to double the heat dissipation area on the back plate. PSB makes brake pads in several materials, but the Eco-Pad is notable because of its aim to shift the bike industry toward sustainable solutions. Unlike most brake pads, the Eco-Pad formula contains no copper or heavy metals, which contribute to pollution and accumulate over time in ecosystems, thanks to brake dust shedding and biomagification.



Imotek Tekfit Motion Analysis



The Imotek Tekfit motion analysis system looks kind of Zwift-y, but its main goal is to correct movement deficiencies by using AI to analyze the rider's pedaling motion and make corrections using automated voice prompts. It also compiles the information into reports that further break down the pedal stroke.



RST Stem Shock w/ Lockout



It's hard not to suggest that for those looking for suspension at the front of the bike, there's been a whole lot of R&D poured into something pretty similar over the years - it's almost like there's a whole class of bikes developed around the idea of having suspension, and it seems they've figured out that a really good place to put that front suspension is in the fork... but maybe that's just me.

RST is doing something a little different, and the company makes a variety of products including suspension forks, but the standout here is the updated Stem Shock. The RST Stem Shock is designed for gravel bikes, e-gravel bikes, road bikes, and commuters - some of which, to be fair, can't fit suspension forks - and the previous version won a Design & Innovation Award at last year's Taipei Cycle Show. Now, the updated version has a lockout knob. The shock offers 20 mm of travel, weighs 0.38 kg, and adds 50 mm of height to the steer tube.



Foss Zero-Drag Silent Hub



Foss' silent hubs are available for both mountain and road bikes, and they use a unique drive system with ratchets that fully separate to disengage when the user isn't pedaling, meaning they're more silent than even the quietest standard freehubs. Foss says it's also more efficient, as the absence of that standard clicking noise also means the absence of the friction that goes along with it.





146 Comments

  • 176 3
 Definitely free beers for the silly fkr who shows up on the group ride with that saddle bolted on.
  • 42 0
 Super hornet gives you wings, will generate lift for 2% more air time.. and has a DRS mode to wide open the wing on the downs...
  • 11 0
 @threesixtykickflip: but you wanna make sure to not drink a red bull and have the Super hornet or Super falcon saddle on your bike, because 2 sets of wings might be too heavy.
  • 62 1
 Danny Hart might be able to fit his balls on that saddle
  • 8 1
 @louiefriesen: biplane man! Stack another and you are approaching Red Baron territory.
  • 1 0
 @threesixtykickflip: I too can't wait for this first-race weekend to come mate haha
  • 2 3
 Can't wait for that same silly fkr to put it on a dropper post, go out for a ride, and then realize: "ah, fk"
  • 1 7
flag Blackhat (Mar 17, 2022 at 4:17) (Below Threshold)
 @ctd07: HOW DOES DANNY HART SIT DOWN WITH BALLS THAT BIG?!?!?
  • 1 9
flag BoneDog (Mar 17, 2022 at 5:33) (Below Threshold)
 im sure you can find this saddle splittin' some ass on the dark web. hahahhahaha
  • 1 0
 @ilovedust: canyon is making it stock on grail carbons
  • 1 0
 @ilovedust: Quadruplanes
  • 3 0
 Saddle? Looks like a bar from a tri bike..
  • 1 0
 @ilovedust: might as well put on solid disc rims on your bike as well to create more lift while doing tabletops!
  • 2 0
 Farts evacuates with less obstruction, making the trail gas shorter... Bless for the group. Mind
  • 36 0
 Haven't Onyx made silent hubs for a while? I'm curious about the friction they have with their clutch system, that may be where Foss comes in (however incremental that boost in efficiency may be).
  • 18 0
 When adjusted correctly, Onyx hubs spin "forever" (youtu.be/6qqv8K0h80g). No way they have more friction than a standard freehub IMO. The main disadvantages of Onyx hubs are 1) they're heavy 2) you need to "adjust" the bearing pressure using a threaded preload cap, which can also introduce clearance issues.
  • 18 1
 Onyx has the lowest friction hubs on the market atm. A study was conducted by third party quite a while ago. I have Onyx front and rear and I absolutely love em. not to mention the instant engagement of the hub as well.

scroll a little more then half way down the page.
www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fanatikbike.com%2Fblogs%2Fengage%2Fonyx-racing-products-mtb-hub-review&psig=AOvVaw3z_qvz1vkl_UXFeMeAcLqr&ust=1647568877830000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAsQjRxqFwoTCLCuub-GzPYCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
  • 11 4
 Shimano XT hubs are virtually silent above just a few mph.
  • 1 3
 Yea onyx has made them for a while but tarin wheels have already made the same thing a long time ago!
  • 23 0
 I need some hubs that make grizzly bear sounds to keep the black bears and Cougars away during those solo night rides on the shore Generally no grizzlies around here so no worry about making one angry and I think both cougar and blackbear will stay clear. My current strategy is to play the pink podcast thinking that the multiple voices will make the preditors think there are a bunch of humans not just one. The second part of my strategy is to ride with my rear blinky light on hoping is will confuse the predator
  • 4 1
 Onyx and Stealth-- who was bought out by Box...
  • 11 0
 @greener1: Except for intermittently when they're not...Love my XT, such a low drag high engagement hub, but sometimes that thing sounds like it's sending out morse code.

Haven't seen one personally yet that doesn't occasionally start ratcheting out of the blue.
  • 9 0
 True Precision also did their Stealth hub which went though numerous iterations, based on a roller clutch, before they sold off to BOX. Though they seemed to me to be a little higher on the drag side, but were the most instant of the hubs with a very crisp on/off feel.

Onyx are fantastic. Dead silent, really low friction, and virtually instant pickup. The fact Onyx needs some preload adjustment is nothing unique - Chris King also need similar preload adjustment.

Tairin have tested some roller clutch hubs I believe, but they never brought them to market. They redesigned them on a more traditional ratchet with interference mechanism that separates the ratchets when you are not pedaling, or so is my understanding. Similar in theory to these Foss hubs I think. I am hoping to see Tairin release their hubs shortly; Tairin is a fantastic little company that I want to see succeed.
  • 7 0
 @fabwizard: I actually know someone that actually rides with two lights, one forward and one backward, so the cougars don't know which way to attack
  • 49 1
 @fabwizard:
Personally, I try to attract as many cougars as possible. But, to each their own I guess.
  • 3 3
 @greener1: they also have a cool self-destruct feature built in.

Loved the new XT hubs but the internals are garbage. Not just me either.
  • 3 1
 @rickybobby18: I did have some questions about Shimano's current engineering staff after taking the freehub body apart...
SRAM XD driver has approximately 3 parts total, while Shimano Microspline has about 100,00,000 tiny finicky parts to accomplish the same end goal.
  • 2 2
 At this very moment my slightly squishy Onyx Classic needs a service/adjustment after a dozen or so rides (some very wet). Drag is getting pretty bad and occurring a lot sooner than I would prefer. That said, instant engagement and the silence is still great.
  • 1 0
 @privateer-wheels: I’ve got a pair of Newmen wheels , the hub is virtually silent and they are fantastic value. Danny Hart uses them.
  • 1 0
 @jimoxbox:

I have a 9 months old carbon pair as well and while the functioning is still good the silver hubs start to show some dark spots like a kind of oxydation.
I have contacted Newmen but no answer so far…
  • 2 0
 @privateer-wheels: Would love to hear (read) a list of recommended hubs by someone like you. Expensive and cheap ones alike
  • 3 1
 @jimoxbox: he uses them cause they pay him to use them.
  • 1 0
 @Brodybro29: Expect a few months before any reply...
  • 3 0
 @fabwizard: or you could just practise growling on the ascents where you're going slow enough to get caught... "Pfffffft, Grrrrrrrraarh, Arrrrrrgh, come on you lard ball, Oaaaaarrrrh!" That's what I do in England and there's no beasties to eat me here lol
  • 1 0
 @brassinne: is this to increase your speed? I hear fight or flight is good for that...
  • 1 2
 Double post
  • 1 0
 Also a honorable mention to Newmen Fade
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: Wait, are you talking about riding or the bar scene? So hard to tell nowdays with all the slang.
  • 1 0
 @brassinne: Good way to fund new bike parts.
  • 3 0
 @fabwizard: attracting a cougar might not be a bad thing...
  • 6 0
 Everything else feels broken after onyx.
  • 2 0
 @carym: Those cougars all hang out at the Roxy night club.
  • 1 0
 @landscapeben: I dont have to insult myself, my son does that every time we ride together. He's nine and tells me i am to fat on the climbs all the time.

Note I used to sing and talk to the forest but now i am so out of shape I just wheeze so the podcast on the phone speaker adds the voices.
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: Lol nice, I have to admit to being very vocal when I'm riding so much so I'm told by my son that he can track which way I've gone by listening for the shouting, whooping and hollering Beer
  • 1 0
 @grotesquesque: The Newman's just look like a generic 3 pawl system with a wire spring, same as you might find in say, a Giant house brand hub or many many others in that tier. An off the shelf JoyTech freehub assembly, or similar from another big manufacturer by the look of things. Certainly no marvel of modern engineering, and nothing novel or exciting happening inside of them.
  • 2 0
 @mobiller: they are super sensitive to having grease in the right places of the freehub internals. In fact I bought 4 sets of the XTR non labeled versions and they sent them out completely dry of grease in the freehub. Took me quite awhile to track down the noise it was making. But find the manuals on Shimano site and it details where and how much grease is required…it’s very specific for correct function of freehub.
  • 1 0
 @privateer-wheels: Agreed.

From what I hear talking to shops on the North Shore, Jose at Tairin brought some hubs to a select test group who really put the hub through its paces. Driver needed an update, maybe some spinning and premature wear, and Jose did not want to put out a product with flaws. ETA hub now May (probably not) to late summer/fall 2022.

New driver sounds similar to Foss. We shall see but this guy is an engineer in the area working out of his garage making exciting products and he is testing and admitting to mistakes/flaws in design and doing his due diligence to have an end product that is functional and durable.

I got a chance to see a prototype and for all the amateur mechanics at home this thing looks great. Huge bearing on each side, recessed in hub shell a little more than the new Onyx Vesper or I9, and to access the internals you need one tool. A quarter. Yep, a coin to unscrew the end cap and access the bearings. Take note Chris King, no more proprietary tools.

I would love to see companies like WR1 use Tairin in their future wheel builds as part of the 500 mile diet (build?).
  • 1 0
 @monsieurgage: From what I know of Jose through my conversations with him, he also does consulting with other brands for hubs/rims/wheels. Tairin is not his only gig, so I wouldn't want to pigeon hole him by just saying he is an engineer working out of his garage =)

May is the date I am hearing as well, and I am keeping my fingers crossed. I was speaking with him just yesterday,
  • 2 0
 @50percentsure: Pure speculation on my part, but I wonder how much of this is due to engineering *around* IP restrictions. Like all the good methods are patented and they'd have to license someone else's patent to do it better?
  • 1 0
 @Ceeco: That's what I figured too, but after following procedure meticulously it was still the same
  • 1 0
 @monsieurgage: the videos of the Tairin hubs on Instagram look interesting but I can't help thinking that there is going to be significant extra drag from the engagement/disengagement mechanism?
  • 1 0
 @rickybobby18: Was going to say the same. Good enough engagement, silent, but broke two internal hub shafts in 4 weeks.
  • 2 1
 "Shimano XT hubs are virtually silent above just a few mph." And they are 100% silent below any mph...

This thread is a Drag...

Budump bumph, ding... Smile
  • 1 0
 @privateer-wheels: No pigeon holing intended. This guy has a passion and I am excited for his stuff to come out. Good luck Jose! I'm rooting for you!
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: I got a cougar problem around me, but I solved it by not carrying any cash and avoiding dive bars where they are known to congregate, ready to pounce on young, unsuspecting available men.
  • 1 0
 Wrong number of zeros
  • 2 0
 @5chmaus: sound like one of your bearings is contaminated. This happened to me a few years ago.take you wheel off and your hub caps off and clean and rotate each bearing by hand and see which one feels rough. You can replace it or take it apart and clean it it mineral fluid, (I use brake disk cleaner from Auto Zone) and you can repack the bearing with the special and very expensive grease the you can buy form Onyx in very small amounts (enough for 1 bearing) for cheap.
  • 2 0
 @moutnbiker: sweet thanks I’ll give that a try
  • 31 2
 No friction from the freehub rachet in that front hub.
  • 4 2
 It’s advertising, clearly it hadn’t caught on, they got a bunch of old stock to sell, drop some coin in the Outside coffer ….
  • 4 0
 @nurseben: and toss one to your Witcher.
  • 16 1
 No way to do suicides with that seat... doesn't seem too comfy either.
  • 30 0
 Oh, it'll definitely be a suicide.
  • 14 0
 Social suicide is guaranteed.
  • 9 0
 perfect for seat-grab handstands tho
  • 3 0
 Anti-toboggan saddle
  • 13 0
 Yeaaaaaa im not sure about that saddle...
  • 19 0
 It's horrendous, but if they market it to roadies and claim it's 3d printed, it'll sell just fine
  • 3 0
 @dancingwithmyself: The UCI are having a stroke because of that saddle. They'll never let it be race legal so roadies won't buy it, which means it'll be the preserve of triathletes and other niche corners of the cycling world
  • 1 0
 @dancingwithmyself: Bonus for the roadie MAMIL saying "chapeau".
  • 1 0
 @ROOTminus1: Fair point, but you can overcome the race thing to some degree with exclusivity, since both desires derive from the same insecurities. I'd say somehow making the rails out of both carbon and titanium, getting Seven to spec it on a few complete builds, and an MSRP of around $500 would do the trick.
  • 12 0
 ONYX hubs are awesome! Completely silent and instant engagement!! Like a forest Ninja!!
  • 2 1
 and they come in 6 bolt! how all hubs should be made
  • 2 0
 Except Vesper. The old Onyx classics were bombproof. I ride the shore and the vespers could not handle it. Corrosion, slippage and they ate bearings 14 rides out of the box. If you ride Cali XC go for light weight Vesper but any rider in the PNW should accept the weight penalty and get the classics.
  • 1 0
 @monsieurgage: I will agree that even the classic has seal issues. The rear gas had no issues, but I clean and re-grease the front quite often. The ceramic bearings are nice though.
  • 7 0
 I still waiting for them to make a rear hub that makes random dirt bike noises for me while I ride.
  • 4 0
 @multialxndr: haha that would be awesome to show up to the group ride with.
  • 1 0
 @multialxndr: awesome add video! “You can even fit 2!” Activated my 6 year old mindset again when we fitted playing cards to our spokes.
  • 3 0
 @multialxndr: add to cart!
  • 3 0
 Shimano tried to make a silent hub using driver rings and gave up. Current hubs they make are quiet, but not silent. Curious how a Taiwanese knockoff will meet the tolerances needed.
  • 2 0
 I got xtr hubs and it's silent unless you just push the bike uphill
  • 2 0
 I suspect the Tairin hubs will have the same problem as these Foss unless they're being meticulously cleaned and greased frequently. If Shimano couldn't do it with Scylence, how did Foss make it work?
  • 2 0
 @bok-CZ: Shimano is close-and did release a batch of Scylence rear hubs that did coast with zero engagement. But the tolerances were so fine they couldn’t produce them on a larger scale.

That’s why I’m curious. If a company capable of the precision of Shimano couldn’t do it, how will a 3rd tier company do it?

If they do and the price is about what a 350 hub is-sign me up!!!
  • 2 0
 I had a noseless saddle before, its horrible. When you climb it feels like you're being dumped off the bike. When you get out of the saddle and stand it feels like it gets in the way even more than a regular seat and it makes controlling the bike with your knees impossible. Using it killed my wrists too. I thought I was so damn smart when I bought it.
  • 3 1
 That Foss hubs are the star ratchet ring version of the pawl based BMX freecoaster hubs like Vocal, Ezra and Saltplus. While they are nearly drag free when coasting, the design will have increased friction while pedalling (just like the silent version from Shimano). I like to think that you would want the least friction when pedalling (at least outside of DH).
  • 1 0
 I think it depends on how and where you ride. Living in The Netherlands, we don't have long climbs so we don't need to continuously pedal. Just a few stomps here and there and coast and pump the rest. Those who do long climbs (and especially those who race XC so where the majority of time is spent, made or lost on the climbs would indeed be better off with the lowest pedaling friction.
  • 10 4
 I rather like loud hubs
  • 11 1
 One of my riding buddies spins her cranks backwards to make a louder 'I'm behind you' noise. These are not for her.
  • 35 4
 I like loud hubs an´ I can not lie.
You otha brothas can´t deny.
That when a bike rolls by wit´ a shoutin' i9
you go "damn", dat bike sound fine!





With apologies to Sir Mixalot
  • 3 2
 @Mfro:
With all due respect to the hip hop lyric reference, my I9 hubs are pretty damn quiet. I hear all the d bags with Bluetooth speakers, evokes, and vape whatever’s over them.
  • 3 0
 @Mfro: if Sir Mixalot rode MTBs, I think he would approve...
  • 3 0
 That saddle is perfect for step through frame beach cruisers, pedi-cabs, guys with giant junk. Hey, just trying to be positive here...
  • 1 0
 Used a saddle like the Hornet. It had two pads and some steel tubing so it did not look as fancy but same concept. Had to micro adjust it to get it the right spot for straight and level riding. Any change in slope where you would shift your weight fore-aft and it became uncomfortable. The other thing I did not like was how much of a challenge it was to balance when doing something as minor as reaching for a water bottle. I think it was because the contact points are just a bit further from the centerline of the bike. Any movement that shifted your weight was exaggerated. Trying to ride with no hands took full concentration and arms moving about like a drunken tight rope walker. Almost learned to use it with no training wheels but gave up.
  • 6 2
 I'll pass on a Hornet up my ass!
  • 3 0
 I think you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to sit ON it.
  • 2 0
 I like hubs that don't make a Foss. But I don't like straightpull and centerlock is not my favorite either. So, fix those and bring it on !
  • 1 1
 I have ridden an ISM "performance" saddle for decades. I started riding it when I began racing TT. When I stopped that, I started, and still, ride one on my road bike. I will not go back to any other saddle. When your seat tube angles are as severe as on TT and road bikes, you put a ton of pressure downwards. I used to consistently get numbness because of that. A saddle that puts pressure only on your sit bones and allows your junk room to breathe is an amazing thing.

I do not ride one on my mountain bike as I do not think I need it. I am not pedaling and consistently putting power down the way I am with a road ride. That Hornet saddle looks like an extreme version of the same no nose saddle.
  • 1 1
 How could anyone fit a bike whose head tube stack has been increased by 50mm? Either you end up buying a bike 2 to 3 size smaller to get the handlebar low enough and the bike is too short for you, either you are riding in an homafiet position.
  • 2 0
 I can't believe no one has posted "Loud hubs save lives!" yet. Personally, I love a quiet, rattle-free bike but to each their own.
  • 1 0
 i'm guessing that an all wings saddle is probably not aimed for bike riders with dropper posts. that looks like leg destroyer.
  • 2 0
 Can you post pics of how the f*ck you sit on that saddle? Cuz I am having a hard time picturing it...
  • 1 0
 If that saddle generates lift and shaves off even 100g, I’m in. No wait, my bros will see it and none of us are actual weight weenies. I’m out. Good talk.
  • 1 0
 Red Bull has Wiings, Always Maxi-pads have wings. So, why not a saddle with wings so you can fly over top of the handlebars for Friday Fails?
  • 1 0
 Can't help but think about loud hubs being akin to when people put aftermarket exhaust on old Honda civics and such. Loud af, and getting nowhere any faster...
  • 2 0
 The finned brake pads.. didn't Shimano invent that years ago?
  • 1 3
 and theres a reason no other brand does it.
  • 2 0
 @HeatedRotor: Kool Stop and Jagwire also sell pads with cooling fins (in addition to the three brands @bigtuna00 listed already)
  • 2 0
 What’s biomagification?
  • 13 0
 Accumulation of undesirable pollutants as they move up the food chain from plants to herbivores to predators, by something like a factor of 10 every step up
  • 5 1
 Its what men do when they describe the size of their boy parts.
  • 3 0
 @Mountainmanjh: That’s biomagnification, no?
  • 2 0
 Never knew there were heavy metals in brake pads actually. Are these in organic pads too or only in sintered pads?

Would be good to have a list of such materials we dump in nature and how much it is. I went with chain lube free from PTFE a long while ago (Green Oil sinde 2005 or so) and I'm aware that this is much harder to realize with tires. But what actually comes from the other quickly wearing parts like grips, brake pads, shoe soles etc?
  • 1 0
 If you can’t manage to make it through the entire sales pitch youtube video how do you think they will sell?
  • 1 0
 If the hub is silent, then you won't be able to tell what hubs the guy behind you is running before you even see them.
  • 1 0
 Google "Selle Pasqualini" up. You will find a clumsy website and the same saddle idea, albeit ten years old.
  • 1 0
 Where are the handlebar mounted winches? We got a lot of snow this year, Imma need something to winch me out of the mud.
  • 5 6
 Why are fully Silent hubs becoming a big thing? like I understand not liking the sound of vaults of something very loud but quiet?
  • 19 3
 I rode a buddies bike with a silent hub and it was the coolest shit in the world. I love the sound of profiles and i9 hubs but having a completely silent bike was a trip. Super sick!
  • 7 0
 @cooper95: i9 hydras are pretty silent if you grease the sht out of them like I do lol
  • 4 0
 Sounds like you haven't tried silent hubs yet.
  • 4 0
 @kidracer nothing quite like the sound of your tires grippin and rippin the dirt!
  • 30 0
 I have a totally silent bike (onyx hubs on high pivot) and hikers HATE it. They think I’m a charging bear or something. Rode up behind a lady and before I could say hello she ripped a huge fart. So now I am ringing a stupid bell at strategic places to let people know I’m close.
  • 5 0
 Loud means more drag.
  • 1 3
 @mariomtblt: by doing this you are creating more drag on your freewheel assy. you may not notice it while riding, but its there. But you do you bro.
  • 1 0
 Shhhhhhhhhh........sotto voce.......
  • 3 2
 I’ve been riding Onyx hubs since 2014, is that a new thing, seems like maybe it’s only new(s) to you?

Onyx is not about silence, they’re about no drag, immediate engagement, low maintenance, and super durability. They also happen to be silent.

Never tried a Stealth, they’re kinda hard to find, worse since Box picked them up, worth a gander if you can find some.
  • 1 1
 YouTubers love them.
  • 1 1
 @kungfupanda: Or, you know, you could give hoots and hollers around corners... More fun, less dingy.
  • 1 0
 My 08 Remedy had a Bontrager rear hub that was almost silent and it was great. I believe there are many improvements that still can me made to rear hubs.
  • 1 0
 Introducing, the ugliest saddle in the WORLD
  • 1 0
 The Hornet Nut Remover if you slip a pedal
  • 1 0
 All-Wings F18 Hornet Saddles, Man, me looks so cool isn't?
  • 2 0
 long live RST!
  • 1 0
 For a gravel bike, that RST stem makes sense. Ask Specialized!
  • 1 0
 Finally, a bear trap for your balls.
  • 1 0
 Foss just invented FREECOASTER hub?
  • 1 0
 too bad that hub only comes in CL
  • 1 0
 Yay new stuff!
  • 6 8
 How do I opt out of Beta ads?
  • 4 0
 In your acct settings. You have to do it on a computer
  • 3 2
 @diamondback1x9: this should be made its own post, thank you for your service
  • 1 0
 @remoh: Hooray and thank you!
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