More Randoms from Crankworx Whistler 2022

Aug 10, 2022 at 14:40
by Alicia Leggett  
As the weekend approaches, more and more brands are setting up at Crankworx to show off their latest and greatest. We took another lap through the Whistler Village to see what there was to see.

Look, known mainly for its roots in road biking, has developed a new flat pedal range with both entry-level and top-end options.

The top model was designed with help from Tommy G.
The entry-level version has fewer pins and a thicker body, but weighs less than the fancy ones thanks to the composite material.

Knolly has a few new things to show off this week... including a straight top tube.

The updated Endorphin will be one of multiple bikes released by the Vancouver brand next summer.

There's also a new version of the Knolly Cache, which has a slacker head angle and more tire clearance than the previous one, and it has bags from Vancouver brand EsotericFabworks hanging off it.

The iconic Vinny Armstrong on a jersey at ilabb.

Cascade Components has all manner of aftermarket links on display.

Plus a burly chain guide and bash guard setup.

Lazer's Cage Kineticore is the first full-face helmet to earn a five-star rating from Virginia Tech.

Kineticore is Lazer's answer to MIPS and other rotational impact protection systems.
The carbon headpiece will set you back $299 USD.

Dharco has the new PB Racing replica jerseys for sale at its booth.

Proceeds from the jersey will support the PB Racing team.
Looks fast, eh?

Spin the wheel for prizes at the Helly Hansen booth.

Marin Bikes is showing off the old and the new.

This year, Crankworx Whistler feels even more like a trade show than usual, with brands showing up with full displays.
RaceFace has all kinds of products to show, and some unreleased ones rumored to be out and about too.

Crankworx Whistler is always great for spotting baller builds. This one has those orange Hope brakes and 5 Dev cranks hanging off that Privateer frame.

The festival is also a great place for dog watching.

Conveniently, seeing a dog gets you a mark on your Kona Bike Park Bingo card.

Speaking of games... I'm not sure I understand what's going on here.

Remember the Supre Drive from Lal Bikes? Here's another iteration, this one a hardtail.

The chain tensioning part...
...and the shifting part.

Devinci has some BTS info on the bike creation process.

That Dainese helmet is still the lightest full-face one in existence, to our knowledge.

SCOR will be giving away a custom-painted frame by Tony - that is, Made Rad by Tony.

Visit the SCOR both to potentially SCOR. I'll see myself out.



88 Comments

  • 75 1
 I for one am glad that Cedric was inspired by Chromag's visionary high pivot hardtail.

(in all seriousness, we're going to get to throw a leg over his bike in the next few days and I'm excited to see how the new 12spd version of his Supre Drive works!)
  • 23 0
 Speaking of Chromag - I don't see a photo of their new FS bike....
  • 8 0
 hi pivot hardtail ebike when?
  • 1 0
 Seems to be leading us down a gearbox path, with out it having the maintenance advantages?
Maybe that will change in the future?
  • 3 1
 @aljoburr: seriously, if there's no rear suspension just slap a Rohloff hub in there and be done with it
  • 2 0
 @bkm303: and have all that unsprung weight....on your hardtail?
  • 2 0
 0 mm travel high pivot full suspension.
  • 3 0
 @dmwbnd: pro tip - never do wheelies on a hardtail. Too much unsprung weight.
  • 4 0
 @brianpark speaking of chromag. Did you guys miss the titanium FS bike in there booth? Was really hoping to see more pics or details. Its absolutely gorgeous
  • 4 0
 @pdxjeremy: standby Smile
  • 1 0
 @brianpark: that bike just knocked the raaw madonna off my top spot.
  • 1 1
 Chromag? I first saw this design on a Yeti in the early 90s. One of the mechanics/grom-herders (I was one of the groms in the herd.) at our LBS had one and kept breaking them.
  • 45 0
 That Marin looks awesome!
  • 1 0
 But haven't we seen it already on an identical display?? I think it was on Eurobike or somewere..
  • 3 0
 The one on the left...? Sure does!
  • 1 0
 Agreed. Best looking Marin I've seen. That color up looks tuff
  • 1 0
 Definitely would ride that!
  • 2 0
 That manitou fork gave it a special touch too
  • 2 0
 @bigtim: Honestly, both.
  • 2 0
 That display is best in show
  • 34 1
 I’ve seen other bikes w/ straight top tubes. Perhaps someone should sue Knolly for patent infringement
  • 5 1
 ha exactly what i was thinking, also looks like their sticker placement is close to another brands, could be a second lawsuit.
  • 27 2
 A high pivot hard tail.......... an people think I'm nuts..........
  • 3 8
flag endorium (Aug 11, 2022 at 0:35) (Below Threshold)
 Its more that the high pivot and design allow the derailleur to be removed from the back of the bike protecting it and giving more clearance. Its a very good idea.
  • 16 3
 @endorium:
sarcasm
/ˈsɑːkaz(ə)m/
Learn to pronounce
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
"she didn't like the note of sarcasm in his voice"
  • 3 0
 Once I see a high pivot, full rigid single speed i will have officially seen it all and will never look at another picture of a bike.
  • 2 0
 Who are Ann people?
  • 1 0
 @RonSauce: a high pivot, full rigid single speed using the Supre drivetrain.
  • 1 0
 I think they’re related to Dee People…@dirtmcleod:
  • 1 0
 @bigtim: Locked out suspension and no shifter?
  • 1 6
flag endorium (Aug 11, 2022 at 5:11) (Below Threshold)
 @naptime: maybe correct your original quote before commenting on others
  • 1 0
 @endorium: fk you on aboot ?
  • 2 1
 @endorium: wow you got so much hate!
  • 2 2
 @naptime: I think your name checks out; you need a nap as you’re a bit cranky
  • 1 1
 @enduroNZ: okaayyyyy if you say so
orrr people could learn to take a joke maybe?
  • 1 3
 @enduroNZ: I know people can't handle it sometimes. It's hilarious
  • 17 0
 is dainese target market for that helmet the lycra wearing downhill crowd?
  • 31 1
 Dainese is iconic in Italy, if you ride in places like Punta Ala you would be shocked how many fast Italian riders look like this: ca. 35 years old, bronze colour, no fat, lycra or older DH jerseys, Dainese pads and helmet (fullface) sunglasses. Good look keeping up with those.
  • 10 0
 Staggering number of people in Morzine/Les Gets last week wearing FF + lycra...
  • 7 0
 I think its for the Star Wars cosplay crowd. Just need some white goggles.
  • 8 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: Thanks for describing me Big Grin
  • 3 0
 @R-M-R: haha that gave me a good chuckle. Take your upvote you
  • 2 0
 @R-M-R: I haven't seen a picture of a Dave's Chain Device (DCD) for many years!
  • 2 1
 @R-M-R:

HO LY SHEET

Where is that bike from? Took me a minute to take my eyes from the lycra full face there, but dam, good looking bike!
  • 3 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: This will be the American ironic bike fashion trend next summer. First mullets and pit vipers, now lycra/FF/sunnies.
  • 3 0
 @Notmeatall: The rider is Phillippe Perakis and the photo is from this article. Perakis is rarely mentioned now, which is a shame, as he pushed the development of chassis, components, and protection more than any other racer.

The front linkage design in the previous photo was made by Francis Glatz and is as bold as it gets. Seriously, a Hossack integrated front linkage with upper flex pivot - wild! Glatz is a proper mad scientist and the world needs more like him. Magic happens when insightful, high-level end users like Perakis meet big, crazy brains like that of Glatz.
  • 1 0
 @optimumnotmaximum: wearing Lycra doesn’t make you faster … but it does make your kit look bigger Wink
  • 3 0
 @R-M-R: holy crap!

How nobody else talk about these legends?

The guy that pushed the limits of downhill RIGHT WHEN IT WAS INVENTED? With safety and suspension technology?
Everywhere he went he came back with a new sponsorship?
The other one is a genius tinkerer? Pinkbike HAVE to interview these living legends of the sport, as soon as possible.

He looks cooler than liquid nitrogen in this wikipedia photo:

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Philippe_Perakis.gif
  • 2 0
 @R-M-R: you may not like it, but this is what peak downhill looks like. /Meme. Only half joking here. That bike was/is way ahead of its time.
  • 2 0
 @Notmeatall, @mechatronicjf:

Activities usually see a Cambrian-explosion-like proliferation of wild designs during their first wave of popularity, and mountain biking was no exception. Predictably, we've reached a phase of mature, stable designs in which many bikes look similar because we've found what works.

Eventually, people seek something different, such as mixed wheel sizes or indirect drivetrains (ex. high pivots with an idler). My opinion is the best return on investment for significantly different designs will be internal bypass dampers and chassis-integrated front linkages - so yes, I agree Perakis and Glatz were ahead of their time!

Also worth mentioning is Alex Morgan and his Buffalo Composite Designs project. Carbon fibre, indirect drivetrains, gearboxes, integrated headsets, multi-axis axle paths, 29" wheels - proper mad scientist stuff. I'll upload an album of some BCD images.
  • 2 0
 @R-M-R: Thanks for sharing! That multi-path bike is exceptionally creative. I'm no kinematic expert, but love reading about suspension design, and I've never thought of or seen anything like that.
  • 2 0
 @mechatronicjf: The original Cannondale Gemini DH prototypes also had an "axle area", rather than axle path. There have been a couple others, but I can't think of the names right now.

Note the 2019 split shock prototype had a traditional, defined axle path and did not actually use two shocks: when configured with two "shocks", one was an empty shock that served as only a spring, and the other was a damper without the spring, thereby creating separate motion ratio curves for the spring and the damper.
  • 1 0
 @R-M-R: I've studied bypass shocks overnight, so now I'm an expert in it (!)

There were some position dampers in the past that not worked well in forks, or the feeling was off and people just craped on it. Bypass shocks must be very very well tuned, and also benefit from having regular damper too.
Those prototype cannondale with 2 shocks from 2019 would be the best case scenario!

But I really like these new shocks with hidraulic bottom out control. There could be some hidraulic top out control too!
  • 3 0
 @Notmeatall: Bypass dampers can be thought of as a more sophisticated implementation of a hydraulic bottom-out. There can be shim stacks, tapered bypass channels (that's a bypass on the bypass), and any number and location of bypass circuits.

The problems were with execution, not the concept. Much like front linkages, the additional complexity gives designers more tools to create an ideal product, which also gives them "enough rope to hang themselves". If we judge a technology by the early missteps, mountain bikes would've been doomed!
  • 16 4
 Yeah, yeah... pedals, bikes, blah blah. When are we getting the dogs of Crankworx post?
  • 1 3
 Give the people what they want! Pugs with the latest jerseys!
  • 8 2
 Do those pedals have a BMX background?
  • 6 0
 straight top tube ftw
  • 4 0
 Straight top tube? Is that straight like when an Englishman says go straight at the roundabout?
  • 5 0
 I think the main thing is that it’s not Knolly-Shaped
  • 1 5
flag Notmeatall (Aug 11, 2022 at 5:01) (Below Threshold)
 From where I know, its about the seat tube. She might've misplaced the straight. Yet, i've seen a lot of full sus with straight seat tubes.
  • 3 0
 good job getting photos of pedals without showing the side profile, the only questions anyone wants to know these days with flats is whether they have concave or not.
  • 5 1
 I Want To Make Scor.


Beavis & Butthead.
  • 5 1
 Those Knolleys are knot that bad looking
  • 3 0
 That Dainese helmet is still the ugliest full-face in existence, to our knowledge
  • 1 0
 Knolly bikes have the cleanest welds in the business - the only other brand that comes close is Nicolai. The straight top tubes on the prototypes are a nice look. On a different note, those Lazer helmets look really good.
  • 3 0
 I hope that Endorphin gets released as a 135/150. Would be a dope setup.
  • 3 0
 Please can we get a better shot of that new Marin!!?
  • 2 0
 Very happy with my Scor 4060. Currently set up full 29", but looking to try it mullet soon out of curiosity
  • 2 0
 I see cables routed up through the seat tube then down the seat stays. Face palm emoji.
  • 1 0
 I love the look of ilabb's stuff . . . until I see the upside down logo. I must have OCD tendencies, because that would feel like burning acid on my skin.
  • 1 0
 Is it just me, or do those PB Racing replica jerseys look to have been "Heavily Influenced" by the old (Bombardier Era) Can Am MX jerseys??
  • 2 0
 The Dainese helmet is still as ugly as anything Dainese!
  • 1 0
 “This one a hardtail”

Less words, more time:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=_K-L9uhsBLM

Smile
  • 1 1
 What surprises me is how much money people have to spend, a $8,000 + $300 for the lift ticket. And all the fuel costs of driving there.
  • 1 0
 The Dainese helmet must be the lightest FF helmet because of the visor.
  • 1 0
 No more chromag arcturian. Frown
  • 1 0
 That Lal Bikes: oh my initial impression was full sus
  • 1 0
 Those EsotericFabworks bags are awesome!
  • 2 1
 Does anyone know what brand the red harness is on the ginger dog?
  • 1 1
 are you kidding???
  • 2 0
 Could well be the ruff wear approach dog harness
  • 4 0
 If you’re carrying his business around in a plastic bag you may aswel get him to carry a 6 pack of coldies for you , am I right
  • 1 1
 When is Cascade gonna come out with a 2021 Commencal Meta AM linkage? I want that 5mm!!! haha
  • 1 0
 You know what link we didn't see at the @CascadeComponents booth?
  • 1 0
 That Kona poster...RAD.





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