Orbea Licenses Internal Routing Design to Canyon & Plans to Donate Proceeds to Trail Projects

Dec 20, 2021 at 17:27
by Alicia Leggett  

Orbea and Canyon announced yesterday that Canyon has been granted a partial license to use elements of Orbea's patented Inside Line internal shock lockout cable routing design. Orbea will donate the proceeds to trail improvement projects.

The Inside Line design was created in partnership with Fox for Orbea's Oiz cross country bike. The design increases the integration of the shock in the frame, protects the cables and lockout mechanism from dirt, and runs the cable in a straight line from the headtube to the shock itself to minimize friction.

Integrated. The design sends the cable straight from the head tube to the shock.

Canyon currently does internally route the lockout cable on its Lux cross country bike, but doesn't integrate the shock nearly to the extent that the Inside Line design will allow.

Orbea has not announced specifically which trail projects the licensing will benefit, but said that the agreement will allow the Spanish brand to expand its support for trail building.

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 O iz that so?
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 You win
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 Huh? I thought that Inside Line was already patented by Sam Hill?
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 Mr. Hill doesn't need shock lockout
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 Someone needs start a consumer direct bike manufacturer that donates profits to trail building organizations based on zip codes there bikes ship. Brand could be named BIKES FOR TRAILs and be co-op.
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 It's called buying a bike from your local bike shop, which most likely directly supports your local bike trails! Just saying.
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 That would be an objectively bad name for a bike brand.
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 @psmithski: best…..comment……ever!!!!!
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 @psmithski: Such a rad comment. Million upvotes.
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 @psmithski: And hires people that live in your town.
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 @psmithski: So true. People buying direct to consumer bikes today will certainly be hurting in 5 years when there are no bike shops left to fix them or organizations left to maintain the trails. That, and I have heard some absolute horror stories about the after sale support from DTC brands. You get what you pay for.
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 another idea for the name: Fund All Regional Trails bike company.
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 @psmithski: maybe where you live, but we have 7 bike shops in a well known west coast bike town and our trail group receives nothing from any of them, save for one of the shops running 2 trailwork days per year. Financially? Nada.
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 @savagelake: That smells like a winner!
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 @psmithski: Is support by the shops for the trails around them the norm in North America? In Germany there sure are some shops which do so, but also many who just sell and thats about it.
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 urban legend.... bike shops financing trails.
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 @psmithski: As some others has noted, this is a pretty regional phenomenon. From the very limited resource of reading PB comments I guess it is mostly like this in some parts of North America. Over where I live some trail crews receive donations from bike brands and/or component brands, but quite rarely from shops. And the sponsoring bike brands are not local ones either, but big name brands from other countries (though most likely the budget does come from the local distributor/office).
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 @psmithski: It might be different where you live but I have never heard of any bike shop supporting any trails in three decades anywhere that I have lived.
If an LBS wants my business they need to adjust their prices. Right now they could go out of business and I would neither know or care as they do not get my custom.
Harsh but sadly true.
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 Even better, a network of local co-op bike builder sharing r&d costs and designs.
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 @ilovedust: your in the wrong part of the world then, most bike shops around me have something to do with trail building and trails.
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 @ilovedust: I'm with @b45her on this. My local shop BikeShredz has helped out with 3-4 different trail builders/groups digging around our local area.

Certainly not what the majority of shops do but there are those out there doing their bit to help their local scene.
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 @psmithski: The only LBS in my town is primarily a roadie shop, they're way over priced, owner drives a corvette and the shop has 2 brand new pick ups that sit around.
And yeah, they're not supporting any trail networks.

I'd much rather buy from a DTC brand than help pay for the dude's corvette.

That being said I own a used Banshee and my next new bike will probably be another Banshee, so I'll have to find a shop that sells them.
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 @singlespeedman: Come to the PNW and see how many shops and race organizations contribute to the trail network especially in the Seattle area. They sponsor build days, give money (lots of it) and dedicate employees time. Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance is our local cat herder and spear heads these efforts.
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 @notdeadyetadventures: A Corvette? That's small time shop, the local one has either a Porsche, a Lambo or a Ferrari parked up front. They bought a bus that they painted with the store's logo to advertise for their second location because it's not that visible from the street, the bus never moved every since it for parked. They have a mobile shop that gets used twice a year...

Yeah, they're not hurting one bit... But it's also the only shop where the mechanics will give/sell me their surplus tools they accumulate if they don't have what I'm looking for otherwise and they sell take off parts for dirt cheap (got a 150$ saddle for 25$, it was brand new except for the time on the fitting stand with the previous owner).
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 After my last 2 bikes being internal routed I can't say I'm a fan. Yea it looks a bit cleaner but in every other respect it's a down side.

Pros. Looks cleaner

Cons. You have to faff about routing everything sometimes with great difficulty.
You can't easily remove some cables for maintenance.
You find that grit still gets into the ports near the swing arm and bb...this then creates a grinding past you can here rubbing the internal cable guides potentially wearing away at the carbon.
This same grit and the fact the cables are usually pretty taught between the front triangle and rear swinger you can tell when doing a frame service with the shock off just how much extra resistance the suspension is fighting against to not only flex taught cable but push and pull it during suspension compression and extension combined with the grit inside it makes horrible noise, chaffs the cables, wears inside the frame and adds friction to the suspension action.
Finally the rear brake...such a pain in the ass particularly again when you are doing frame pivot maintenance. You can't fully strip and remove the rear swinger without having to remove the hydraulic hose...you end up with the swing arm still attached to the front via the short hydraulic cable..either that or you have to do a rebleed.

Literally the only benefit of internally routed is clean aesthetics, nothing else. It's no good saying dirt is harder to get in. Because it still gets in the ports and you end up in an even worse position of it not easily coming back out and creating a grinding paste inside your £4000 carbon frame.

I'm seriously considering going back to alloy and external routed for my next bike. Though the best compromise so far seems to be those bikes that are semi internal routed with a plastic downtube cover.
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 Upvote this Dan!
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 Welcome Mountain Bikers
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 Props to Orbea for doing an ethical thing (Specialized, take notes).

But……more proprietary “integration”?? Yay????
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flag ungod (Dec 20, 2021 at 20:07) (Below Threshold)
 Well in this case you have to run a shitty Fox rear shock in order for it to be integrated.
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 Compared to what Volvo did, this scores pretty low on the ethical-ness-meter.
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 @mi-bike: Can't find any news about it anywhere. What did Volvo do?
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 @delta5: Volvo invented and patented the 3-point seatbelt but let all manufacturers use it for free.
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 I'll wait 'till Thursday to decide how I feel about Orbea!! #policeacademy
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 @redmonkeybutter: Oh gotcha, I did know about that. I thought you meant they'd done something very recently. I think Volvo had a few innovations that they "gave away".
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 Maybe they'll grant Canyon the license for the ability to make frames that won't break next
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 Fox for Orbea's Oiz cross country bike or commonly known as the FOO fighter
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 In Bavaria-Germany where I live the only new thing is a total ban for single trails AND single trail riding. And zero new trails.
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 I don't often use a lockout, but when I do, it's wireless.

Also known as the "hand-directly-to-switch-model".
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 I like having just the rear one cabled so it's easy to switch from a "hard tail" to a full suspension while on more technical trails, the front one I just lock when I'm on asphalt or very smooth trails so it's not too complicated to just switch by hand
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 Good on you Orbea!
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 Shows what faith Canyon have in flight attendant sales ?
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 I wonder if this also means Fox will put more R&D into compatible shock designs. That would make it even more win win.
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 It's just the top part that's different, the rest of the shock is exactly the same, not much R&D to do and there isn't many ways to improve the design, either all adjustments are on the same side or they aren't and... Yep, that's it.
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 Direct to consumer is the way of the future. Why do you think Tesla sells cars that way.
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 I always think of Orbea, Canyon and BMC as the same company.
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 Why? They are from 3 different countries, one is a DTC the other two are not, the bikes are pretty different. I don't see a reason apart form bike companies just being bike companies, they're all the same.
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 Don't worry, Canyons will break as you try to route your cables and that won't be covered under warranty.
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