An eagle-eyed reader has sent us a photo of what appears to be a Yeti eMTB from a recent dealer event.
Until now, Yeti has been one of the holdout companies that didn't make an eMTB, but it now looks like the boutique USA brand is adding some watts. The bike looks close to production, with Yeti's standard Colorado flag decal, the Switch Infinity logo printed on the chainstay, and apparently multiple color options spotted.
Although it has the Switch Infinity logo, it doesn't appear to have the system's typical main pivot that slides up and down on two Kashima rods, changing direction as the bike moves through its travel. Instead, it appears to use a six-bar linkage system and has a vertical, rather than a horizontal shock orientation. This isn't surprising, since the space normally occupied by the Kashima rods is full of what we assume is a Shimano EP8 motor.
The bike has what looks like a Fox 38 up front and burly brakes and tires, so it will likely fall toward the aggressive end of Yeti's lineup. We're not sure if it has mixed wheels.
Yeti declined to comment.
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AXS build 27k
And it sure seems like Switch Infinity is a kludgy ass-pain, at least if you read the Yeti forums. Seems you need to disassemble, grease, loctite, and precisely torque everything about every 5 rides.
As @bonfire says, its cool that Yeti is always thinking out of the box, but on an ebike I find it hard to justify anything complex. I'm not sure you need anything beyond a linkage driven single pivot. If you care about brake jack, then maybe a simple Horst link. Either of these could be combined with a high pivot+idler, but beyond that whats the point of extra complexity on an ebike?
And I was wrong, it was a lawsuit by Santa Cruz, not DW, that drove the switch (ha) to SI.
Why's this any different. Because most people hate Yeti's? Fact is, bike's do make a difference, if they didn't we wouldn't be looking for marginal gains in bikes to go faster with linkage designs, weight, suspension, components etc. Clearly it still has to be piloted, but when the top 5 are all on the same level and there's hundredths of seconds separating places. Bike's do make a difference.
Bikes need to have more KISS design
wheel = single pivot. Single Pivots are ok, but have limitations.
New and adjustable geometry, new Yamaha motor and electrics, sleek and integrated controls, mixed wheels, etc.
Not a peep on here.
But a photo of mostly a leg and a declined comment from the manufacturer is worthy of an article?
PB did an article on the last one: www.pinkbike.com/news/first-ride-giants-reign-e-wants-to-go-big.html
I'd guess they couldn't get their hands on one until just recently,
so are delayed in a proper launch posting.
Or they hate Giant idk
The ol' SB150/SB130 work horses are definitely due for a refresh, no?
Perhaps this will allow for an initial rearward axle path, which then moves back forward later in travel to avoid pedal kickback and idler pulley systems.
Hi,
this publication is for the future eMtb, i’ve ordered it in may, it will be annunced in september, for an october delivery. What I know revolutionary suspension (discribe like this one by my source), 29″, 160mm, Shimano ep8 motor, 2 models 10k€ and 12k€. I dont know more. What is sure this suspension system make me impatitent to see it in real
Looking at this setup, I'm not sure it's any better or worse than the SI setup. It might be a bit easier to maintain if you ride in wet conditions a lot, but it's definitely busy-looking and, sad-but-true, looks sell bikes. I wouldn't put a lot of money on Yeti adopting this on their pedal bikes, but I suppose we'll have to wait and see.
FIG. 5 shows a schematic of various IVCs in the extended state. I’m looking at the migration paths 47 and 72. Note tangency line 74. It’s pointing rearward, indicating a rearward axle path at the beginning of the migration.
Frankly, and unlike Mike Levy, I am all for super descending-oriented suspension layouts (i.e. these fancy new high pivots) and letting the climb switch compensate/firm things up on the climbs. That said, my preferred terrain and trails work for that style of bike use: long climbs, long descents.
Either way, interesting to see them move away from the "solid" rear triangle, and to incorporate an FSR-style rear chain stay pivot + independent axle point on the seat stay.
Yeti: hold my water bottle
XTR derailleur, deore shifter and cassette
I get it if pinkbike have to put the disclaimer up for legal reasons, or the agreement with Yeti. But I think it would be best left out. We know what goes on behind the scenes with early demos, and the process of that etc, pinkbike has been really good and transparent there. Until we are told, or see the review drop day of release, we don't really know who has what, keep the magic alive and us guessing (if legally possible)!
All good, realise its a bit of rock and hard place for you guys, as we're all naturally skeptics, doesn't matter what you do some knob is going to have a go (ie me in this case). Anyway, I do really appreciate you're all trying to do the right thing, and deffo trying your best, and I can't really argue with that! Cheer for the reply.
Two separate Trek shops were broken into over night, two nights in a row both about 1:45hrs from each other.
The first shop had 10 ebikes stolen - $60,000 worth
The second shop I believe was seven at around $50,000 - and it appears the same van was used.
Then three days later, a Specialized dealer was broken into and two S-Works turbo levos were taken.... THEY SMASHED THEIR WAY IN THROUGH THE ROOF, literally creating a massive new skylight for the shop.
A smash and grab was performed at a mates shop within that week, but they only got one ebike....
All these ebikes, no charges.
My brother in law is the manager of the Trek store that had ten taken. It's the third time in a year they've been broken into and had ebikes taken. The two other times, Trek have just written off the bikes.... but this time they are claiming insurance. $60k is a fair whack.
Surely shops shouldn't charge ALL the batteries.... perhaps charge one Medium as a demo.... perhaps get a safe and lock all of the removable batteries (kept uncharged) in them so they aren't even in the bikes on display. I'm aware not all batteries can be removed, but cmon.
I have no illusion that any tech like this will be used to enforce scheduled obsolescence
Check out vanMoof what they do with their commuter bikes. They are relatively expensive compared to the standard Omafiets (grandmabikes) here in Amsterdam so they stepped up to the theft problem.
I don’t see why this shouldn’t be integrated in your expensive MTB. I recently hid a Airtag in my frame for peace of mind.
Tesla has removed features from their cars after someone has bought them second hand. Imagine Ford showing up and removing the AC on a used car you purchased.
BWM is toying with moving features to subscription based model.https://www.businessinsider.com/bmw-subscription-model-for-features-2020-7
As mentioned, Apple got caught slowing down old phones to push people to buy new.
Personally, I have owned 2 Teslas and have had a terrific experience. I've also private-party sold my original Tesla and the new owner lost none of the features, including some (like premium connectivity) that Tesla now charges for.
Not sure how I became the official spokesperson for defending companies that provide routine software/firmware update. My original point is pretty simple: Thieves suck. Perhaps digital connections to our products serves as a way to stop/catch criminals.
160mm of travel
29er
2 Models: 10k and 12k USD
www.pinkbike.com/news/yetis-new-suspension-design.html
At that point it any horst link would be fine if its pedall assist.
Every manufacturer of bikes from Canada or the usa is 5-6k frame only.
Stop whining and enjoy what you have as it's not so green over here.( as in they are expensive)
The Grim Donut is pretty cool but couldn't Pinkbike commission some kind of test machine so we get some real numbers instead of just feelings and opinions ?
Whether there's a motor or not, plug another one on the crank axle that makes the rear wheel roll on a roller, and have a jack mechanism applying force on the saddle to simulated both the rider's weight and terrain bumps (maybe have a uneven roller).
Measure energy input at the crank axle input and resul at the roller axle, and get loss of energy.
This should be possible no ?
Help chat, i cant decide!!
I have friends there and a Yeti - should I be concerned?
Ban yourself !
...you must be really eagle eyed to detect an ebike
English is not my 1st language, so I am not sure what does this mean. "believe"? You don't know?
Your editors are like undercover cops, you lost contact with them during last few years which they spent embedded in the Yeti corporation?
...but the Note says you all already know the specs. spill the beans. we demand to know what is equipped on this motorcycle