Giant has gone 29" with the 2013 Trance X 29er, designed to be a wicked fast 5" trail bike for the Enduro, Super D, or epic trail rider. Giant's concept for the Trance X 29er spurs from a melding of the benefits of the 29" wheel with a more aggressive geometry, creating a fast and flickable chassis for the ultimate trail bike.
Trance X 29er 0 Details
• 29" Giant P-TRX29er wheelset • ALUXX SL aluminum frameset • 120mm Maestro suspension • Fox Float CTD air shocks • Overdrive 2 tapered fork steerer • Shimano XT 2x10 drivetrain • Shimano XT hydraulic disc brakes • Giant P-TRX 29er 1 wheel system • Giant 100mm dropper post w/ remote • Full internal cable routing • Weight: 28.2 pounds (w/o pedals ) • Sizes: XS, S, M, L (tested), XL • MSRP: $4,250 USD
| A Feature-Rich Frame
Trance X 29 has a highly integrated feature set, the most obvious of which is the fully integrated cable routing, which includes the rear brake line and dropper seatpost cable. Trance X 29's Overdrive 2 headtube utilizes taper-steerer technology, but takes it one step further with a standard 1.5" bearing in the bottom, and 1-1/4" upper bearing interface and stem, for enhanced steering stiffness. Giant's massive rectangular Megadrive downtube joins the oversized Powercore 86mm bottom bracket shell to further enhance torsional stiffness.
Giant employs their proven Maestro suspension platform into the Trance X 29er for a true 5" travel frame. In order to get the sharp handling prowess and flickability Giant was looking for with the 29" wheel, they developed a single-spar swingarm and stepped seat tube that tucks the rear wheel tighter under the rider. The drastic seat tube angle is mostly an optical illusion, as the effective angle is 73 degrees. Chainstay length is 17.8", 10mm shorter than Giant's Anthem X 29er. A 69 degree head angle promises climbing agility mixed with stability and control. Frame weight is 2,670 grams (5.89 lbs) for a size medium with shock and hardware. |
A Fitting DestinationTyax Lodge Wilderness Resort outside of Gold Bridge, BC hosted the debut of the Trance X 29. Surrounded by the vast, remote Chilcotin Range, Tyax proved to offer ideal terrain for the new Giant trail bike. With no motor vehicle access beyond the resort itself, epic singletrack is the only road for exploration into this Canadian landscape. Well, aside from Tyax Air, the lodge's float plane that transports guests from their hotel room straight to an alpine lake for extended kilometers of pedal-powered mountain cycling.
| We wanted to make a fun to ride twenty-niner. - Adam Craig, Giant pro enduro racer |
Bike FitThere's no avoiding the long feel of Trance X 29. After throwing a leg over the bike, it was apparent that we needed some adjustments on our size Large demo bike. We slid the saddle forward and swapped out the stock 100mm stem for something shorter, as did several other riders on the trip. Being a 1-1/4" stem, we were forced to stick with what Giant had on hand, which was a 90mm. At 6'2" in height, our size Large test Trance X 29 felt a bit reachy, even for trails of the absolute cross-country variety. If we were to spend an extended period aboard the Trance X 29, we'd mount something in the 70-80mm stem length for optimal comfort.
First ImpressionsWe opted out of a half day of climbing in favor of the float plane shuttle to a high alpine lake. Even still, the Chilcotins offer a few sustained climbs as well as several quick technical ones. The whole point of Trance X 29 is to have a bike that handles evenly across the board, so of course it excels at climbing. 29" wheels have the ability to plow through roots, creek crossings, and sandy dust holes that leave a 26" bike at the mercy of it's pilot. The Trance X 29er was ideal for the dusty, swoopy singletrack with mixed rock chunder found in the Chilcotin Range. If ever a bike was designed for a specific trail, it seemed like this was a match made in heaven.
Although the seat tube angle appears quite drastic, the relative location of the stepped seat tube creates a normal seat angle. We never got that off-the-back feel from the bike, and didn't feel like we were reaching for the pedals on long climbs. We also didn't feel a need to activate the CTD shocks on our test ride. Maestro is best left to do it's thing, as it's plenty efficient even on standing climbs at maintaining rear tire traction.
When trail speed opens up a bit, Trance X 29 certainly seems more impressive than on paper. The bike is more stable than it's 69-degree head angle would dictate. 17.8" chainstays probably add to the stability. On the contrary, Trance X 29 has less of the on-top-of-the-bike feel than many 29ers, which allows the rider to feel more stable in corners. We did notice the long cockpit in tight switchbacks, as it leaves the rider a bit high-centered. Other than slow-speed maneuvering, the Trance X 29 feels very stable.
A Practical AdvantageConsidering the light and efficient Swiss-Army nature of the 'trail bike', there really is no reason not to go big in the wheel department. For those most at home on 26" wheels but still curious about the big-wheeled bug that has ravaged the trail bike genre, we can add that Trance X 29 feels the most at home to us of the 29ers we've ridden. Though we're not so quick to ditch our trusty 26" steeds, those in the market for a new bike can't ignore the smooth roll of the bigger wheel. Matter of fact, the most descriptive word for Trance X 29 is
'smooth'. With a proven suspension platform that works great in nearly all situations and a geometry aimed to conquer the 29" stigma, Giant has certainly met their goal of creating a fast and flickable trail bike. As versatile as it sounds, Trance X 29 should be approached with definitive boundaries, as it's limitations when the going gets steep will push some prospective buyers into the less work, more play all-mountain category. We can't really say it's the 'ultimate' trail bike after one test session, but for an entree of smooth, fast trails with a side of bump and grind, Trance X 29 certainly fits the bill in the all-around maximum efficiency department.
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Cannondale had 1" 1/4 in the early nineties, thats how "standard" they got then
We ALL know the name of the guy that invented DW Link, but do you know the name of the guy that invented Maestro?
Some people do. And those people know that Maestro was created totally independently of the DW Link, regardless of the crap that is spewed up by people who don't know his name.
I hate stock Giant cheap stems but I won't be able to get it upgraded to other brands.
I can use my older forks with tapered 1.5 to 1 1/8" steerer but need to change headset, and the original forks I will struggle to sell for any decent money, etc. etc.
What is the point dear Giant ?!?!
It's scare to think that this 'new standard' may actually supersede the 1 1/8" tubes/headset/stems within the next decade (just like with 15mm through axle taking over 9mm and 20mm in XC/trail/am) but with the company of such size and influence on the sport it is very likely to happen.
Also, I don't know how proven Maestro suspension is, because any bikes I've ridden with it felt relatively sluggish - the only good climbing Giant I've ridden was a hardtail.
@joeyjoedotorg... yes, i can feel stem flex. I can feel bar flex too. So apparently can the designers at Easton who with the move to wider bars, have taken it upon themselves to develop a new bar clamp standard of 35mm for their Havoc series.
So Ritchey makes one, and Thomson will make one. Ok that's two. Or one can go on eBay and get a used or NOS 1 1/4" stem that will probably be too long because it is from an era where long stems were king. Not exactly "millions" of viable options there. People want choices, and with 1 1/4" they are not getting them.
I'm done wasting my time with you.
For what it's worth, it seems to me that the only people who ever complain about it would never buy an OD2 equipped bike anyway, usually because they're: a) too poor b) too pompous and stuck up their own arses to ever ride a Giant anyway.
I can see a market for 29ers on the XC world, but for anyone that wants to be more aggressive on the trails, 26" still rules! One of my riding buddies ride the anthem 29er, he loves the feel of it but even him after riding my Evo, said: "This is the best bike i've ever ridden in my life". We ride a lot of technical, switchbacks and rocky terrain, i agree the 29er on some of the climbs we do is better at rolling over things, but when ti comes to the technical DH, with drops and berms, jumps, you can't even start to look at a 29er, the 26" rules!
That's why i'm keeping my Evo! I still believe 29ers have their place in the market but not for me... thanks!
cheers,
dan
We mustn't forget the different wheel sizes are actually a great thing as we are all different and can pick up the size that suits our riding style/trails the best.
No one ever complained that dirt jumpers for years use 20, 24 or 26 inch wheels, why even bother to fight with the wide variety available for the MTB?
Stop moaning people and enjoy riding!
PS. I already tried 29ers and 650b, they'er all good depending of what I'm riding. My FR play rig still has the 26" hoops.
On the other hand answering to JScott, yes i did read some really good reviews on the talboy, but unfortunately i don't know anyone that has one, and i never seen a demo day around here for the santa cruz bikes... but being the 29er just starting to make an appearance on the market now, it's still pretty young comparing to the 26" bikes, i think there is a lot to be learned on the R&D department of the manufactures, and i can see there are a lot of good possibility for improvements on every aspect. As i said before i haven't ruled them out, but now i'm more than happy with my eve
Then brings them out of the frame at the bottom of the down tube where they may get smashed by climbing or riding over rocks?
This is fail.
I shouldn't have to run cables elsewhere with zip ties or stick on mounts.
It's a real shame because their bikes ride very well.
They just can't seem to get the little things right.
One giant gone and replaced with another brand.
One to go.
The bash guards catch most of everything but not all.
Here in B.C. we ride 5000' vertical drop mountains with steep descents and loose rock gardens.
Sometimes we even ride these tracks on 5-6" small bikes and 29er's so those cables need to be run elsewhere period.
Come on out with your 5-6" bike and I'll show you first hand.
Now, I will say it's much less likely on the bike we are talking about in this article as it's not designed for gnarly descents.
But why even put cables anywhere near the bottom of down tube or bottom bracket where they are at risk of impact or catch on logs, roots or rocks?
It's a design flaw that Giant is still not addressing with a lot of their bikes.
When Giant starts routing their cables out of harms way from impacts/catching on all models, starts putting ISCG tabs on models that should have them (Reign) and stops using their own brand name parts on their bikes I will consider them again.
Until then I'm looking at 650b rides from company's that are getting the little things right.
That is all.
"Even the rear brake line can be routed internally through the chainstay. In the bike's stock form, the rear brake line comes routed on the downtube,"
That means, boys and girls... that as sold... the brake line comes down the downtube, but the routing is there to run it INSIDE the tube to protect it from damage. Why don't they sell them that way? Because you need to rebleed the brake to do it, as you have to cut the line and route it thru the frame for the exact length of each frame size, and that is a time consuming step that would add to the price tag of the bikes. If the owner who buys the bike wants to pay the premium to route the line that way, let them.
As to companies which use/have their own house brands of parts... giant is one of the few that actually OWNS the manufacturing facilities for their parts as well as designs them and then paints/finishes/decals them. Kona, Trek, Specialized, etc that do that... they're just slapping labels on stuff made for them. Cannondale also is a big user of housebrand components (including suspension forks which have steerer tubes that being 1.56" diameter, aren't really compatible with anyone else for stems aside from ohhh.... Ritchey and soon Thomson... but people don't whine about them like they are about Giant and the new OD2.
And yes I did READ the lines can be run internally through the down tube and then internally through the chainstay.
But look at the picture of the one that is done internally.
The lines still have to get from the down tube to the chainstay somehow.
The lines in the picture come out of the BOTTOM of the down tube UNDERNEATH the bottom bracket (risk of damage or catching from own experience) and then internally into the chainstay.
IMO the lines should come out of the TOP of the down tube near the bottom and over the bottom bracket then internally into the chainstay.
That way no lines are anywhere near the bottom of the bike and subject to flying rocks or catching on logs, branches or roots.
Design flaw IMO, but it's only my opinion.
If you like it by all means pick one up.
Cheers
I also read the Reign for 2013 will have ISCG tabs again.
Also a move in the right direction and I stand corrected on that as well.
If the 2013 Glory gets some sort of internal cable routing with ports on top of the down tube at the bottom to run cables over the BB I will have no complaints.
They have already improved the geo.
Note, I said improved not corrected.
Your defending all of Giants decisions on here pretty hard.
Do you have vested interest in Giant?
I asked you if you have vested interest in Giant.
So... yes you have vested interest in Giant and you are supporting the brand you believe in?
Or no you just like to go on "practically every review" and argue the opposing position?
Which is it?
For decades, brake and/or gear cables were routed down the underside of the downtube and under the BB shell. For reaching the front derailleur location and the rear derailleur, it made for the cleanest most-direct path and resulted in the least amount of shifter imprecision from stretched cables and the least amount of weight also. Then certain folks started complaining about dirty cables and before you knew it, all bikes just HAD to have top-routed cables/housing. But they were never moved because of impact damage being a worry. Now with the normal solution to contaminated cables being to just run full housing, and also with hydraulic brakes requiring unbroken hosuing from caliper to lever, we don't need to worry about about contamination. Salsa also runs the lines down the downtube, on the underside. Now while I don't mind shifter housing going that way, I do find routing the brake line that way annoying because unless the brake mount is located on the chainstay, it means you'll need a longer housing run that for most any other bike, which means more weight. My Salsa Mukluk and Spearfish both have ended up with me just zip-tying the brake line to the toptube and seatstay.
If name calling is what you have to do to feel you a correct on this matter or any other matter within your life so be it.
Maybe someday you will figure out people in this world are entitled to opinions differing from yours.
Especially on a public forum about bikes.
Get used to it.
I read tonka-bikes opinion above.
Is it moronic because it differs from mine?
No, It's just an opinion.
So again...
My experience from owning Giant bikes with cables run down the bottom of the down tube and under the BB is the lines can be damage by loose rocks, shutting or catching on branches.
More so here because of the trails I ride.
Because of my own experiences with this I consider it to be a design flaw or maybe a design oversight.
Whatever terminology you are comfortable with.
It doesn't matter if it's Giant, Spec or any other brand.
THIS IS JUST MY OPINION.
I'm sure you are very busy insulting someone else on another topic somewhere on here so I will let you get it.
It's Friday and I'm going for a ride.
That is all.
The bike manufacturers should look into compatibility aspects when manufacturing new frames and standards, as this will influence consumers when purchasing new products. Since i already have a set of parts, i would like to save some money and reuse these parts, and it would be a great help if the new frame i'am purchasing can accommodate the parts from my previous frame. Anyway this is just my opinion and i know every manufacturer wants to make money (bottom line) but still, giving the consumers some flexibility would be a great help!
ps. I ride a 26er and 29er.
More needs be said about that Giant post which does its job well at a particularly low price point
The post did perform well, and at $250 retail, seems like a good aftermarket option. I wasn't really into the ergonomics of the lever. Reach up over the lever with thumb, then pull down. It's a bit scary to have to put the thumb in that position when heading into a gnarly section at speed. Other remotes have more of a 'push' action rather than pull, which is more intuitive. I presume it just takes some getting used to.
So what's fantastic? And is it enough to outweigh the problems 29 seem to have so far?
Having said that you were quite clear in clarifying that your impressions were initial. If I may make one suggestion; if/when you look at a 650b bike try to also get the 26" version so you can see for yourself if you feel a difference in Range between the wheelsize. I for one, am going to try that tact myself. Looking forward to your take on the 650b spectacle and to Levy's take on the Trance
can hardly call it "the ultimate" if you had to swap parts to make it safely/comfortably rideable
But when a bike (or part) maker does it to a "journalist" outlet, it's considered acceptable, and nobody asks whether the schmooze is improperly influencing "journalists" in their "review" of a new bike (or part).
I think it's because lots of bike riders wish they were, for example, Brad Walton or Mike Levy, flying to remote locations to test "product."
I don't trust any review written after such a prostitute weekend. You shouldn't either.
As to you, smike, you're not that quick are you? You don't get analogies? It has to be exactly the same, or there's no use? I'm sorry your IQ is such a stumbling block, so I'll help you here. The price of government (what you're taxed) is influenced by the corruption I described above. The cost of your bicycle is influenced by the corruption of these presstitute weekends. In both cases, the wined-and-dined person (politician, or Mountain Bike Fiction writer) comes away being unable to be critical because of all the luxurious stuff he's just been given, or has just eaten, or has just slept on, or has just flown in, or has just driven in.
If you can't see the parallels, that's due to your mental deficiency.
And telling others they can just "look away" isn't really responding to the question of why presstitution is acceptable.
Apparently, everyone at this point in history thinks we all should just be whores about everything, and to hell with the impacts down the road. Get mine! Get it now! Screw those who are negatively affected!
And you seem to feel empowered by that.
Strange.
What's galling is that they're pretending to be objective, while not delivering anything close to it. But that's cool by you, because you wish you could get presstituted too.
This site is free and it rocks.
The easily-persuadable might buy a bike on the strength of a review, but the discerning will always do their own investigation/testing before purchase. Brad could have said it is the greatest climbing, best descending non-bobbing hucking whippy cornering machine this side of the Millky Way and I still wouldn't ride it without test riding it. Giant's and Pinkbike's job is to get us interested in what is out there, and we can do the rest.
I liked this article. Good photos.
BTW, I tilt my Switch lever so that it is right next to and takes the same action as the shifter.
While some of the information is similar to what you will find on the manufacturer website, we are able to present you with this information before the manufacturer even has it available to you, and perhaps spark the interest of someone who is interested in purchasing such a product. I encourage you to take the time to read the actual product reviews on this site, as they should give you a better impression of how the product meets it's intended purpose.
As for the 'presstitute' comment, most of the article is a presentation of facts. You should also find some brief positive, and negative, comments about various attributes of the bike. If Giant had not hosted this debut, we would all have to wait until Interbike to get the facts and even less of a ride impression. It sounds to me like you should stick to looking at pictures so as to eliminate any opinion whatsoever.
26 AM? Yeah there may be more alternative offerings in 650B and 29er tire sizes, but the 26 AM market isn't really shrinking that much to be noticed by manufacturers yet. Its more a case of people moving from buying XC bikes to buying AM bikes, and therefore are already likely to be considering alternative wheel sizing, and this is why there's an increasing number of bigger wheel Trail and AM bikes being developed.
Most of the 29er whiners haven't even spent half a day on one. One guy up above compared it to a road bike... really? Seriously guys, try one before you bitch and moan.
26 to 29(custom & gave it a good year thrashing then sold it). ride what ya like but i don't get it.
- Giant (obviously, in Al and Carbon versions)
- Ritchey
- Syntace
- Specialized (their adjustable angle stems are a 1.25 steerer bore and use angled shims to fit 1 1/8 steerers to adjust the stem rise)
- FSA
- NVO's ATS adjustable height stems (also sold under other brand names such as Scott USA) which use a 40mm tall shim that fits over a 1 1/8 steerer that the stem can slide up and down, use stems which are 1.25" steerer bore also.
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Deep dish rims are about aerodynamics and their application proven beneficial in certain raod applications, but the rims are HEAVY. In the mountain world I am not understanding any benefit to fewer spokes.
Make up ur mine giant.
Then I come on to Pink Bike and every other post is a 29er being reviewed.
Can't wait for the 650b's to be shoved in my face.
I'll be starting a charity, '26 inch convservation group' anyone interested?
you'll find me at the start of my local trail collecting signatures.
Check this. I really like the idea.
dirt.mpora.com/news/dirt-magazine-26v29-bonus-feature.html
Respect your comment if in fact you have spent time on big hoops to validate your comment..
The new 2013 Norco range is all 650b - NOTHING ELSE!!! Thats saying something as to where the market is going... And I've even seen an Intense 951 29er prototype....Basically.. This world will change soon and you better keep up!!!
However, I don't ever think 26ers will be gone from the face of the earth because its a lot more maneuverable. 650b will dominate soon though.. We'll all have to buy new forks, frames and (this is the worst part) a shed load of 650b spare tyres!!!!! (I think I will sell some of my 26 spares before no-one wants them anymore......)
Example: Umm this 'Insert brand here' wheelset look good..Questions I will ask the person/dealer/websites: What tyre width can they take? Are they 20mm/142X12 compatible and can you get adaptors easily?, Are they UST? Have they got good reviews? Are spares easily available? and now I'll have to ask if I want 26/650b/29er.....
This is confusing me and my tiny brain
Don't worry guys, more choice is good for us. Means the industry is growing.