Brian's Randoms from Sea Otter 2024

Apr 22, 2024 at 10:14
by Brian Park  
Sea Otter 2024
Cathro hosting a Q&A with Conti athletes.

There have been more launches in the past two weeks than any other two-week period I can remember since I started sweeping floors at Freedom Bike Shop back in 2001. Yes, that means I'm very old. It also means that after several years of delayed product releases, some brands have finally cleared out enough inventory to share what they've been working on.

The Pinkbike team came down to Sea Otter this year with mixed expectations, and there were definitely some weird vibes. Everyone is concerned for the remaining Kona employees, and more than one brand expressed that their plan is to #surviveto2025. But overall we loved catching up with everyone, the weather was great, and somehow there was even more gear to cover. The industry might be going through a tough time, but ultimately riding bikes is still ridiculously fun and bike tech is as interesting as ever.

And on that note, here are a few of the random things that caught my eye during the show.





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5Dev's new titanium XC/gravel/road cranks look amazing. They weigh about 450g, cost $999, and will eventually come in 155 to 175mm lengths in 5mm increments. Available now.

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They're made by machining titanium into shape with an open pocket on the back, laser-welding a plate on to close up the void, then machining the back to a smooth, clean surface.
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Details of the crank/chainring interface. Compatible with SRAM-style 8-bolt chainrings or power meters.

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Low profile to reduce rock strikes. It also looks cool.

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Hiding on this Specialized road bike is 5Dev's very interesting UDH adapter that lets you install a T-type drivetrain on a non-UDH bike.

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Expensive pulley wheels with ceramic bearings are a thing that people buy. 5Dev's look nice.

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Aero rings for road and gravel.
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I asked if they could machine all the way through on a 32t MTB ring based on this design. They said maybe.

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5Dev crank with a road ring on.





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Muc-Off has a bunch of new "big bore" valve stems that integrate the valve into the valve cap. They do standard Presta, Presta to Presta, Presta to Schrader, and Schrader to Schrader. Team Schrader, for the record.

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With a straight-through design and integrated ball valve and lever system, the valves claims up to 264% more airflow than traditional Presta valves.
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Also comes in all the colours. I believe these will be available in the next month or so.

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Seriously, Muc-Off must have twenty thousand SKUs.





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Mondraker was showing off this incredible Gulf collab.

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It's not a homage or just inspired by one of the most recognisable liveries in motorsport, but an actual collaboration with Gulf Oil International.
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They nailed the colours, logo placement, everything.

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A limited number will be made available for sale. My brain hurts and is unreliable at this point, but I believe it's just 50 of them and they will be made available next month.





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BMB has a lower version of their wild stem coming. Still wild, and still $400.

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Still 15mm BACK, but now only 90mm up, 60mm lower than the original.





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Gates had an interesting demonstration of unsprung weight, derailleur and chain vs gearbox and belt, with all else equal.

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With derailleur and chain.
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With gearbox and belt. Is it something that makes a difference in the real world? I don't know, but it'd be fun to find out.





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Possibly my favourite bike at Sea Otter 2024.

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This Rockhopper belongs to a Mikes Bikes employee and nails the details.
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Important.

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FSR chainslap protector on a hardtail goes hard.

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A solid choice.
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More good decisions.





OutsideBrendan works smarter not harder, and dog Bubbie(?) is awesome.





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I'm told a Kyoot mini velo has been raced in an enduro.

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The Michael Jackson dropper.
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Kyoot is made by BMX industry folks and it shows.

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Going to be honest here it's stupid and I love it.





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This guy was walking around promoting his wild Apoyii bike.

I mistakenly thought it was a garage project kind of thing, but it's a real brand with a promo video and everything.





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Clever Standard has a new version of their small Chain Barrel tool. Available soon.

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Compatible with flat top and regular chains.
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A C02 canister can be threaded in for leverage.

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They also have a clean little tire plug kit. Christopher Walken would approve.

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Bacons and two sizes of fancy metal plugs.
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Neat.





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R-Dog and his Sea Otter Special.

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So good. So terrible.





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So many Captain+Stoker coffees this week. Alicia wasn't a fan last year but credit where it's due they take the crown this year.
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Social Media Hannah doing her thing, Lachlan telling stories.

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We regret nothing.
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Dario astroturfing the comments.

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The glamorous world of bike media.
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The server ominously told us that if we didn't finish our food we wouldn't be able to leave. He also cut off videographer Tom Richards from the team photo.





And with that, it's time to face my expense report. Until next year, Sea Otter!

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  • 132 1
 "Michael Jackson dropper" is going in my permanent word bank. 10/10
  • 15 3
 It's an incredible description for those crotch grab droppers. I've seen more of them in media coverage this week than I've seen on bikes in the last 10 years. They seemed to have some popularity in like 2012-2013, but having cut my teeth on one, they are genuinely terrible. Now they're endorsed by the King of Pop, so perhaps they're the King of Droppers. I still sort of want one for my DH bike.
  • 9 1
 @j-t-g: I quite like them because it means one less cable on your handlebar. Shame no one makes a 200mm one or I'd buy it ASAP!
  • 14 0
 @j-t-g: It's always seemed to me that they were OK for "winch and plummet" type riding, especially on trails you're familiar with, as you have plenty of time to raise a lower them at the predictable appropriate points. But for rolling terrain, or riding new trails "blind", then they really do kind of suck.
  • 3 0
 @SintraFreeride: If someone made one of decent quality with decent drop, I would have snagged one for my gravel where I may finding myself swapping between one of these and a lightweight rigid post depending on the ride's intent since I do anything from mellow road rides to trail riding on that bike.
  • 5 0
 @adrennan: 100% agreed. It’s a great application for gravel where you use it a couple of times per hour, not every minute. Also dropper levers on gravel bikes are still mostly awful and in weird places(except for the Pro/Shimano lever that you can push or pull).
  • 5 0
 @j-t-g: I kinda liked having one on my gravel bike. I only really used it for when things got super hairy or I wanted to descend some twisty asphalt super fast.
  • 3 1
 HeeHee!
  • 1 0
 @Dustfarter: yeah all my bikes that can, have them now. It’s so nice to pull up to a stop light and drop the post on my commuter.
  • 1 0
 Are there still companies that make this kind of dropper post? Can somebody name a few? I would really love to have one.
  • 1 0
 @thekaiser: I've modified an early KS Supernatural where the cable exits the rear of the post head horizontally. Now there's just a short piece of cable dangling from the post with a cable stop at the end. I could grab it with one hand and operate it with no issues. Might have looked a bit odd from behind, though.
  • 1 0
 I bought one of these aliexpress "wireless" droppers for my fat trail bike. I found out that having a remote on my FS trail bike I was operating my dropper all the time, sometimes for silly or very little reasons. When I got the fat bike it came with a rigid seatpost and I realized riding the very same trails that sometimes sliding down the saddle was just a psychological thing I did on the trail bike but I was totally fine on the rigid seatpost. I still wanted a dropper for long downhills and highly technical section and this no remote dropper was just as cheap as a rigid one and do the job just fine. I am just skipping the parts where I would have moved the saddle down for just a small drop or very small rolling hills.
  • 3 0
 @santa-banshee: KS Dropzone. I'm on my second one in about 7 years and, except for the crotch-grab shame, they have been very reliable.
The reason for running it is needing to swap out the seat to run a tag-along bike for my kids. I looked at a wireless one but it was £600+ compared with £170 for the Dropzone.
  • 2 0
 @santa-banshee: Not a classy move but I bought mine from china. I don't think the brand name matter because the very same design seems to be sold under different names.
  • 3 0
 @santa-banshee: Bought a TranzX Jump Seat about a month ago. Was $110 CDN. Use it on a fat bike for winter riding. I think only 100 mm of drop but its fine for fat bike riding! No comment on durability as I only used it for a few months but its worked fine thus far.
  • 3 0
 I've had a £25 Decathlon crotch grab dropper on my Trek Fuel EX for the last 10 years and it still works flawlessly.
  • 3 0
 @santa-banshee: Triple Eight has one available in Germany for like 80€
  • 2 0
 @adrennan: I used to have a KS 150mm one a few years back. Would run it for trail riding and then swap it out for a short fixed one for bikepark riding.
  • 3 0
 @santa-banshee: Aliexpress vendors sell a Michael Jackson dropper under a brand "EXAFORM" which is a budget offshoot brand of KS.
  • 2 0
 I have one of these EXA Form 150mm droppers on my longtail cargo e-bike that I share with my wife. She's about 10" shorter than I am so the dropper is great when switching between us taking or dropping the kids off at school!
  • 49 4
 Gulf Oil livery is the sexiest livery. Fight me.
  • 37 1
 Least controversial opinion.
  • 22 1
 It's been done to death though. Should only be seen on le mans porsches
  • 7 13
flag sjma (Apr 22, 2024 at 13:38) (Below Threshold)
 Marlboro > Gulf
  • 3 0
 Great livery except for the fork seems a bit off...oh, and the cable tourism.
  • 9 1
 I would also take the Sunoco livery from Mark Donahue's field-destroying Porsche 917-30 Spyder that was so fast it was outlawed and basically ended the greatest unlimted racing series ever - The Canadian-American Challenge Cup. I grew up near Laguna Seca and was lucky enough to have seen it race there along with several years of Can-Am. Funny that I actually rode my enduro bike on the tarmac of the same course YESTERDAY at the Sea Otter. However, the infield turns under the (Continental) bridge were added later to slow cars down. The original racecourse arced around the expo area and those 1500+ HP were really singing!!! So many decades ago and I still act like an immature ass online.
  • 3 1
 @mattg95: Yes, I saw a knockoff Eames chair in Gulf.
  • 2 1
 *Donohue - sorry, Mark
  • 1 0
 @p0rtal00: you & your countrymen reversed their ban on sucking down cigs because they were hooked on the tax money it generated

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67540190.amp

Sick burn with the gay joke though, you looked really tough online
  • 20 1
 A bicycle sporting an oil company logo makes perfect sense.
  • 2 0
 1980's Williams f1 is probably my favorite (FW0Cool . The white with Blue green and black was so cool, and Keke Rosberg ruled.
  • 1 1
 Sorry but Rothmans livery wins this contest.
  • 3 1
 @nozes: Good call. Nigel Mansell fan here. Pretty sure a wee Scotsman racing the DH Worlds had a one-off John Player Special-themed bike.

I used to collect/beg/steal(1) F1 and Indy team shirts in the pits at the end of the season. The Benetton Mild Seven Playlife (upside down font) was pretty dope. I have a Minardi, Tyrell, Williams Renault Camel blob, Jordan buzzin hornets, etc. Bunch of Indy stuff even a couple NASCAR.
  • 2 0
 Renown Mazda 787B
  • 6 0
 I dunno Martini put up a good fight.
  • 4 2
 OTOH I find advertising an oil company on a bicycle is quite lame. You could do a similar paint scheme with a different color palette and it would also look cool, just less nostalgic.
  • 4 0
 I raise you John player special senna lotus f1.
  • 2 0
 Is it ironic that an oil company collabed with an E-bike though?
  • 2 0
 @suspended-flesh: Saw a pair of 917-30s along with numerous Shadow cars at Goodwood a few weeks back, taht twin turbo flat 12 screams but isn't near as loud as the Ford Cosworth powered Shadows. The 917-30 also set the closed course speed record at Talladega Super Speedway.
  • 1 0
 @Jules15: Yeah but I think it rained and they only got one lap in and speed and the driver said there was more throttle left! I could have that confused and am too lazy to Google ATM Smile
  • 2 0
 @wgm20: I'll see that and raise you Niki Lauda's 1976 Ferrari 312 T2. LOL
  • 43 1
 $400 stem is so hilariously stupid LOL
  • 33 46
flag IntoTheEverflow (Apr 22, 2024 at 11:35) (Below Threshold)
 You mock it until your $200 stem breaks at the worst time possible.
  • 22 0
 @IntoTheEverflow: Are you claiming that strength is related to price?
  • 16 2
 $60 is the sweet spot for a stem.
  • 13 0
 Personally, I love the $1000.00 Crank Arm set.... Eyeroll...
  • 26 1
 I feel like everyone is missing the humour of @IntoTheEverflow's comment
  • 6 0
 @IntoTheEverflow: even $200 for a stem is f*cking hilarious
  • 2 0
 @AndrewHornor: My sarcasm detector jumped to 10 on that one.
  • 2 1
 Watching the owner/designer talk about them is painful. He seems so genuine in his belief that they are better. But the look is his eyes seems like he is about to cry. I can't fathom hes selling these in any appreciable volume.
  • 32 0
 5Dev's UDH adapter, now's there's something that could actually be useful...it was only a matter of time
  • 9 0
 Yes, someone has to figure it out because in this economy, dentist or not, people are not going to swap out complete frames to use a Transmission derailleur. I have it on my UDH compatible bike (Ripmo) and it's awesome, but not going to replace a $3000 ti hardtail frame to run it. Their website still only shows the Yeti conversion, hopefully more brands/models/universal to come!
  • 3 0
 Looks like for Specialized road and gravel frame only at the moment ride5dev.com/products/specialized-transmission-gravel-road
  • 2 0
 @road-n-dirt: also for some Yeti frames to make sure the dentists are covered
  • 1 0
 Going to be difficult to fit the cassette into a lot of frames with the small sprocket being 2.5mm further outboard. I'm not bothered about the mech but I'd really like to try the transmission cassette and chain with my mechanical one.
  • 1 0
 I apologise for my ignorance here… is Shimano on board with UDH or are they not going to be in any new bikes with it?
  • 1 0
 @blaklabl: I like that adapters exist but otoh nobody forces you to switch to UDH.
  • 2 0
 @kipvr: UDH (Universal Derailleur Hanger) works with all common derailleurs.
The difference is in the way the hanger mounts to the frame (one size fits all UDH compatible frames), not in the way the derailleur mounts to the hanger.
  • 1 0
 @kipvr: SRAM patented making a derailleur that mounts directly to a UDH-compatible frame by omitting the hanger itself, but they let anybody make/use the hanger design. This was their trojan horse to try to get people to buy Transmission, since no other derailleur maker can legally do that attachment type.
  • 1 0
 @Repmuj7: ahh ok, bit sneaky of them why didn’t they suggest everyone use their style I wonder!
  • 1 0
 @barp: yeah looks like SRAM have made a nice nest for themselves.
  • 25 0
 Gee looking like Weekend at Bernies
  • 5 0
 lol...picturing Ben just kicking his seat from under the table at the podium to make it look like he's nodding along with the conversation
  • 15 0
 I did Gee dirty, it was impossible to choose a shot where all of them looked normal.
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: You could have done a burst and rendered them into a gif-animation. If each of them would have one person looking weird and everyone else just fine, it would have been an interesting animation.
  • 19 0
 "Christopher Walken would approve" .

"Your father hid this watch - in the only place he could....."
  • 7 0
 “Five long years he wore this tyre plug kit up his ass; then he died of dysentery”
  • 9 0
 Is astroturfing the Pinkbike word of 2024 so far? Asking for a friend who is definitely not an Ari rider (see: influencer)
  • 12 1
 For the moment. The industry will eventually learn these people aren't actually "influencing" anyone, and they'll be discarded as another unnecessary marketing expense. Do you really believe anyone cares what bike Mo is riding this month?
  • 1 0
 This is nothing new. The big brands had meetings geared toward and paid people to troll the internet and promote ebikes. It was hilarious, their favorite word was "fun".
  • 10 0
 Dario splootin’
  • 8 0
 Schrader for the win! I've drilled out all my alloy wheels to accept Schrader tubeless valves.
  • 1 0
 I've been schraderising my rims for the last 14 years!!!
  • 2 0
 I've drilled all my carbon rims with no issues
  • 7 0
 That's a cool demonstration of unsprung weight. We could do that with the Supre Drive although the difference wouldn't be as big.
  • 6 0
 I miss seeing them out on the trails...the bright yellow Y23s. Back in the day, they were as distinctively goofy as a Cannondale Lefty.
  • 7 0
 I'd love to hear more about that UDH adapter. Also that Mondraker is incredibly. Gives me those GT40 vibes.
  • 1 0
 That Mondraker is stunning.
  • 4 0
 Rule57: You may only ride with a bidon in the rear cage if you have a front bidon, or you just handed your front bidon to a fan at the roadside and you are too busy crushing everyone to move it forward until you take your next drink.

Joking aside, that Rockhopper is dope!
  • 6 0
 "A C02 canister can be threaded in for leverage"
Not sure whether to be amused or afraid...
  • 3 0
 Yeah, I thought the same thing! Hopefully they've done their homework on the strength of those cartridges because it can take quite a bit of force to push out a modern double peened pin. Tearing the neck off a highly charged pressure vessel seems like it could get pretty wild in the blink of an eye.
  • 2 0
 @thekaiser: Or "in the loss of an eye", as the case may be.
  • 7 0
 I like the Mondraker.
  • 2 0
 I think I saw the Kyoot at the Megavalanche! @brianpark
  • 1 1
 It would be even better if the front brake caliper was spaced properly from the rotor.
  • 1 0
 @bummel42: I can’t tell if you’re kidding but I choose to believe.
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: also saw it, I don’t have a photo of it but I do have one of this downhill scooter someone rode there:

m.pinkbike.com/photo/26538884
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 @Upduro: I was wondering how he would ride it at high speed but then spotted the clever set of second pair of pedals not attached to a crank on that Penny Farthing! That must be...interesting, especially with the lack of knobs at the front.
  • 1 0
 Me too... apart for the headset cable routing. :barf:
  • 2 0
 @brianpark That purple 1995 cro-mo Rockhopper? I’m pretty sure that’s my bike. Iirc, that color was called Wine Burgundy Metallic, and it was my first mountain bike. I was 17 years old, a freshman at UC Berkeley, and my dad and I went to Pacific Bikes in Berkeley to see what they had on sale. This particular bike was marked down to $375.00 w/ full Shimano Alivio kit (gripshifts!), 20.5” frame and I got a discount on two bottle cages and bar ends. I rode it from 1994 until 2009. I took it with me to upstate NY for grad school. I used it for commuting, road rides, trail rides, stair hucks on campus, whatever. In 2002, I rebuilt it w/ LX kit, and threw on some riser bars and V-brakes (and got rid of the bar ends, since they didn’t look cool anymore, lol). In 2010 or 2011, I had to move, and didn’t have room to keep it. It hurt a lot, but I donated it to the Trips for Kids charity in San Rafael, CA. It shifted flawlessly, the Selle Italia Flite saddle still looked new, and it shined up really nice the day I let it go (the metallic flakes in the paint really pop in the sun!). I’m just glad that someone else is enjoying it as much as I did, my biggest fear when I donated it was that it would end up being someone’s rusty, beater POS. After 30 years, it feels good to be reunited with an old friend.
  • 1 0
 Whether it's your bike or not I am curious about the riser bars. They look comfy. Know the brand?
  • 1 0
 That's a great story! I also hope that's the same bike and it gets another good home
  • 5 0
 @brianpark nice pulp fiction reference.
  • 1 0
 I'm guessing you're talking about the "Christopher Walken would approve" bit, in relation to the tire plug kit, but I still don't get the reference. What was the tie in with Winston Wolf?
  • 2 0
 @thekaiser: Hiding Butch fathers clock up where the sun does not shine.
  • 3 0
 Yeah, just saw it last month for the x time again.
  • 3 0
 @EvolutionsVerlierer: Thanks, I am ashamed I got the Christopher Walken and Harvey Keitel characters mixed up, so it should have been obvious to me. I guess that's a signal that it's time for me to re-watch the movie!
  • 1 0
 @thekaiser: it’s okay, it was a while ago. Back in the YoEddy with Judy and XT thumbies.
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 @thekaiser: Sounds like a great plan mate!

We just did a Quentin Tarantino and Guy Ritchie weekend marathon viewing.

Lots of fun.
  • 2 1
 Those cranks are indeed gorgeous but they are 50g heavier than eeWings and since they're called XC/Gravel/Road they may not be considered robust enough for trail/Enduro. While I have heard a rumor or a broken eeWing crank, afaik they have no weight/usage restrictions.
  • 7 3
 I love my eeWings, but the 5Dev ones are a little cheaper than eeWings and actually made in USA. They also have a much narrower q-factor and probably won't bash ankles the same way eeWings do (I don't have this problem but it's a somewhat common complaint). Time will tell, but I'm fairly confident these will be comparably robust to eeWings.
  • 9 2
 @brianpark: lol given their history with cranks I don’t
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 @brianpark: I have eewings on my bike and the real struggle is the cane creek chainring interface. With new Transmission-offset bike frames you need a zero offset chainring for the cranks, and there is only one on the market - the OneUp spider system, which erases any weight savings you may have thought you were getting. And exactly zero compatible power meters (I've made a thorough search).
5dev's big innovation here was a chainring interface to a parts ecosystem that actually exists. Definitely feeling some buyer's remorse right now.
  • 1 0
 eewings look stupid on XC or Gravel bikes. they also have 3 bolt sram not 8 bolt.
  • 1 0
 @BermSkid72: Clarification needed: I put them on a trail bike, do they look stupid on trail bikes too?

Clarification provided: they are indeed SRAM 3-bolt, but they are rotated 180 degrees, which makes a bunch of parts fit incorrectly. A dated thread about it here:

www.mtbr.com/threads/cane-creek-titanium-eewings.1094016

Because of this rotation, I like to call it a Cane Creek interface, because it randomly causes parts designed for SRAM 3-bolt to fail. But I might be wrong - I might even have a bike that looks uncool.
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 @Mtmw: i run a power meter. not sure what you are talking about. i like the look of these. you sound uncool.
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 @BermSkid72: we've confirmed that i sound uncool and my bike may also look uncool. If you can find a zero-offset chainring power meter for eewings cranks i'll PayPal you $200 just for linking to it.
  • 4 0
 Is that Mike Levy in the second to last picture, hiding his face with a cup of coffee?
  • 2 0
 That was my immediate thought as well but there are no tats showing.
  • 4 0
 @suspended-flesh: His tats were fake. He had them to throw the alien hunters off his scent.
  • 6 1
 If your first bike shop job was in 2001 you are not "very old".
  • 9 1
 tell that to my shoulders.
  • 6 0
 I’m young goddammit and my first bike shop job was in 1992-3!
  • 1 0
 ..
  • 3 2
 @brianpark: shoulders? That's a young man's pain. Wait till your back hurts for no reason at all.
  • 2 2
 @brianpark: Funny that you think 38 is oldSmile I have tools that I bought as an apprentice (that I still own) that already had 6 or 7 years of use when you emerged from the womb. Smile
As for the shoulders, to that I can relate, but changing (ie: ELIMINATING) a large number of things from my diet has helped the shoulders, wrists, hips etc considerable, so I bitch about that stuff considerably less frequently now. (**Seed oils BAD, MEAT GOOD!!)
  • 1 1
 @GT-CORRADO: oh we've got another anti-seed oiler ! Stay tuned for next years food trend reshuffle folks.
  • 1 0
 'Team Schrader, for the record.' Yes couldnt agree more. fed up with bent presta valves. nothing wrong with schrader, work better for tubeless and stronger. Can someone please remind me why presta was invented, apart from road rims getting narrower in the past which needed a narrower valve.
  • 1 0
 What do you mean "apart from"? That's exactly why they were invented.
  • 5 0
 Shout out to Phil at Kyoot for for keeping things fun and making rad bikes
  • 2 0
 Agreed.
  • 3 0
 Wow! not only the bicycle industry is now selling motored-bicycles, but now it advertises oil companies.

What next? Gas powered motored-bicycles?
  • 1 0
 Can someone tell me what the advantages of Titanium cranks are? I think the 5dev ones look cool but wondering if folks feel there is an advantage to putting them on my bike?
(They cost more than a CeramicSpeed Transmission cage for reference and that actually makes my drivetrain feel different/ better)
  • 3 0
 OK, genuinely curious, what's the difference between a standard presta valve and a presta to presta valve?
  • 3 0
 It's presta sized at both ends including the thread-off valve. I just described it that way to differentiate from the presta to schrader one.
  • 9 0
 @brianpark:

Trek: We need to reduce SKUs by 40% over the next 4 years.

Muc off: MORE SKUs!!
  • 1 0
 It's been pointed out the valves are kind of the 'me too' product of the moment, but unlike pedals, there are actually some interesting products and opportunities there... I actually really like this muc off approach.
  • 2 0
 Will that ball valve get in the way of putting a floor pump on it?
  • 4 0
 @brianpark "Team Shrader for the record"? Do tell please.
  • 20 1
 I haven't done it yet, but I think at this point MTB wheels are wide enough and we should all just go back to Schrader. No real reason not to.
  • 1 0
 @brianpark: As a parent to a young child with multiple bikes, I support this.
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 @brianpark: I run tubeless with schrader valves. Lots of airflow and easy to get sealant thru
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 @brianpark: the reason not to is that most decent mini pumps (eg. One up) are presta only. I recently bought a schraeder to presta adapter (to pump my kids tyres with my one up pump) but it failed on the trail when it mattered.
  • 2 0
 @ReubenSandwich: good point. Maybe I need to fully commit to Fumpa pumps before I drill out all my frames.
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 @rad8: I still have a set of the original Stan's Schrader valves. Still working after 8-9 valve core changes. Better airflow, better aire retention at the comparatively low pressure we mountain bikers use, and you don't risk breaking the stupid tiny bolt.

Presta was born to manage higher pressure and lower air volume. We need to stop importing stupid road standards into the MTB world.
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 @ReubenSandwich: Good point. Pumps and keeping your whole fleet of bikes as consistent as possible. I ride "gravel" (aka a road bike that doesn't suck) and swap my OneUp pump over to that bike when on long rides. I also have one nice floor pump. Not interested in switching heads every other day.
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 @southoftheborder: Presta was only invented because road rims were becoming narrower, nothing to do with higher pressures. Schrader valves are used in all kind of industries up to much higher pressures than any road wheel will ever use. Also look at the valves on your forks and shocks.
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 @codyben123: good points. I was only referring to the higher pressure in road wheels because that might help a presta valve to get q better seal. Having to close the valve by hand has to be the dumbest design ever.
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 In what world is a bicycle partnership with Gulf Oil the right move ? Of course its on a moped !
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 Makes sense on an ebike since it's a motorized vehicle.
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 @warmerdamj: makes sense to a 22 year old I guess.
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 That stem comes with a "I'm unique" surcharge. Maybe some needs a conversation starter on trail-end. That's why they pay that much...
Everyone else: "we're good with our $60~100 stems, thank you"
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 PS: "love" those ¢15 bolts from the nearest hardware store...
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 Every time I see 5dev cranks it reminds me that I actually need to pull the trigger on shorter cranks one day. I'll probably get the appleman cranks though.
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 Is anyone else over presto valves? It’s a lame carry over from road that has no place on MTB. We’ve been slowly drilling all of our bikes over to schrader valves
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 I have nothing with Gulf and the Mondraker is way too much for where I ride, but man. What a good looking bike. Now I want one
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 Are those Muc-off valves using only the lever to control flow? No more presta valve stem? If it, that's a cool idea, wonder how difficult it is to replace the valve seats.
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 DARIO don't get the PFAS on your front bits. Astroturf is bad news.
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 those cranks are gorgeous.
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 Is Shitbike still around? I'd love to see a pic of that.
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 Shitbike is too good for Sea Otter these days.
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 I am amazed this Mondraker is an ebike.. can hardly see the motor anymore... impressive...
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 So the difference between the belt drive and Transmission (GX) is less that I thought it would be so less again with boring old XO1 ≈ 402g as opposed to 680g.
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 I'd be happy to lose Presta valves, rattling valves is one of the most infuriating things and that can't happen with Schrader.
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 Was Gee asleep?
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 Long live weird bikes!
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 That stem just needs to be 90mm lower and 40mm longer
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 LOL! yes
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 When did road bikes go to a single ring upfront with Narrow wide? For gravel I could see why, but road?
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 The nachos were my favorite part
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 I bet Conti has more SKUs than muc-off
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 But less than Schwalbe
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 @ReformedRoadie: who also has less than Maxxis, with all the sizes, casings, compounds, and tubeless/tube-type options. What was there, 90+ different DHF variations?
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 What is worst? BMB stem price, look or functionality?
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 Conti athlete photo with Cathro, looks like a hostage scene.
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 Heaps of utter crap. Trying to sell us more useless things we don't need because it doesn't make money to sell simple things that work and last.







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