[April Fools, Kinda] Pivot Cycles to Produce the Grim Donut V2

Mar 31, 2021 at 11:08
by Brian Park  


SQUAMISH, BC / PHOENIX, AZ

Pivot Cycles and Pinkbike announce 2021 partnership.
The award winning manufacturer has committed to producing and racing the Grim Donut.

Last year, the mountain bike world was turned on its head when Pinkbike produced a “bike from the future” called the Grim Donut [Part 1 & Part 2]. A tongue-in-cheek lampooning of the industry’s incremental advancements, the Grim Donut used geometry from the past 10 years of bike development to extrapolate what the future could look like.

A joke taken too far, everyone was surprised that the bike was actually rideable, let alone fast. But after being piloted by Yoann Barelli to some very fast test laps, it turns out that there might be something to that assumption of linear progress.

We're excited to announce that Pivot will be producing V2 of the Grim Donut. Details on the bike are still scarce, but we can release the following information:

• For the first time in the history of the bicycle industry, a new bike will be steeper than the one that preceded it. We're calling it Steeper Head Angle Technology™. The first Donut was supposed to have a 57° headtube angle, but because Pinkbike is bad at math it ended up just shy of 56°. After some testing with anglesets, the new bike is set to have a 58° headtube angle. So conservative.

• It will be handcrafted with a premium blend of culinary grade, ultra-exclusive Al13™ alloy, with tube shapes perfectly optimized for aero tucks. Using advanced manufacturing processes ensures delivery of an imperceptible 0.69% increase in stiffness-to-weight and ride quality.

• The bike is no longer limited by needing to weld two toptubes together. That means that, for the first time ever, the Grim Donut will be produced as a size Medium (525mm reach).

• Designed around pre-de-tensioned wheels so you can finally turn left just as well as right. Vertically rigid yet laterally compliant.

• We don’t know what suspension design we’re going to use yet, but rest assured it will keep all pedaling forces, brake forces, rough terrain impacts, gear ratios, and your parents entirely separate from each other. There will be no compromises.

• All of the new bike’s technologies will be upgraded from Three Letter Acronyms (TLA™) to Four Letter Acronyms.


Tom Bradshaw putting in some test laps on the original Donut. Are reverse offset forks the future?


bigquotesThe first Grim Donut was built by Genio, one of Pivot’s frame suppliers in Taiwan. Throughout that process, [Pivot CEO] Chris Cocalis was super helpful and open about their process, so it was a natural progression to have them do V2 directly in their Phoenix, AZ facility.Brian Park, Pinkbike Head of Editorial


Pivot has also committed to bringing the Grim Donut V2’s leapfrog approach to the race circuit, using their EWS race team to test and validate the bike’s blistering speed. Ed Masters, Matt Walker, Bernard Kerr, Morgane Charre, and Emilie Siegenthaler will all take the start-line on the new bike throughout the year.


bigquotesI’m excited to see where this crazy progressive leap in technology will take us. I’ve never had a drink bottle holder on my Enduro bike before but now I have 3! These new unlocked levels of hydration will no doubt boost the team's performances throughout the year.Matt Walker, Pivot Factory Racing

bigquotesGenuinely excited about putting my own sprinkles on the Donut V2. For some reason all I want to do is see how big of a flat drop it can handle. Stay tuned!Ed Masters, Pivot Factory Racing


The Grim Donut
The original High Pivot Virtual™ suspension design had all the things: dual-links, an idler pulley, and a pivot higher than Snoop in the mid-90s. Plus room for three bottles, a feature that's being revisited in V2. Drawing by Waki Designs.


bigquotesAt Pivot we’ve always emphasized steady, sensible product development. But after seeing the Grim Donut V1, we’re curious to see where a leap forward could take us. Our understanding of suspension kinematics and ability to produce high quality frames in-house will take this project to the next level.Chris Cocalis, Pivot Cycles CEO


There will be a very limited number of production Grim Donut bikes made available for the public to purchase. Stay tuned for more information on that launch later in 2021.


bigquotesClimbs like a homemade eMTB and descends like a 2005 VP-Free.Mike Levy, Professional Teenager


The outlook for the competition is grim.



182 Comments

  • 247 2
 I don’t want it to be April fools!
  • 42 5
 It's not, it's Adpril fool's...
  • 49 1
 I know. Seeing the Pivot team shred a v2 donut would be epic. Brian: shame on you. Pivot: a plague on all your houses.
  • 27 0
 @Altron5000: I wonder if that will ever happen. Sure would be cool though. Smile
  • 7 0
 @brianpark: no idler or gearbox, must try harder
  • 8 0
 @brianpark: Please actually make the bike though we need the v2
  • 22 1
 This is obviously April Fools.....If Pivot was really making this bike they would roll out their new wheel spacing standard, "super duper boost" but be unable to ship the bikes because nobody makes wheel spacing that wide....yet!
  • 12 0
 SHAT Technology! Its about time we got SHAT technology!
  • 4 0
 @SlodownU: I NEED THAT SHAT!!!!
  • 66 28
 I am back. I need downvotes and attention.
  • 3 0
 No joke, people would likely buy it. It would be interesting to see how many units they would sell.
  • 8 0
 @SlodownU: marketing should have called it "steeper head angle racing technology". Absolute missed opportunity there.
  • 15 4
 @wakidesigned: Welcome back, Waki.
  • 15 2
 @wakidesigned: You're not the real waki... You're just someone is playing an april fools prank on us...
  • 6 1
 @wakidesigned: Ask and you shall receive. You are welcome.
  • 5 0
 So Pivot's finally going to get some modern geo... YEAH!!
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: seeing Pivot's geometry, I think the joke it's worth twice the points. They are certainly a couple seasons behind.
  • 3 2
 @wakidesigned: Thank goodness. It has been very dull around here.
  • 4 1
 @wakidesigned: man I never had an argument with you, but I waited for that day!

Makes the Pinkbike comment section a little bit less boring so this better not be a April Fools Joke or I’ll never downvote you again!
  • 1 1
 @kcy4130: I'm sure Waki is somewhere on the PB boards though just under a stealth username and has mellowed in his older age. Lol.
  • 5 2
 @Pukeproof: I care less these days... my time is limited. I don’t even know what to talk about...

@tacklingdummy - I created a fake account only once. It was a social experiment. I was spewing completely untrue stuff but I was attacking my main account saying Waki is a fraud. I got many upvotes. Sorry I had another one Wcartman or something. Again... I was purposefully talking bollocks... many upvotes
  • 5 0
 @wakidesigned: I thought the resurrection was on Monday.
  • 4 2
 @BenPea: I am afraid this story will go the other way around... I am the devils jester not Jesus.
  • 2 0
 @wakidesigned: question is, are you back in denim?
  • 118 1
 Next up: Breaking News: Container full of bikes with a wheelbase of a couple of hundret meters seemed to be the reason why the ever given go stuck in the suez canal. The excessive amount of waterbottles led to an unequal weight distribution of the entire ship
  • 3 0
 It's time for some additional horizontal pivots in our sport!
  • 3 0
 @pakleni: you mean a folding bike? Improved cornering FTW!!
  • 64 2
 "Drawing by Waki Designs" I feel old.
  • 5 1
 what happened to him?
  • 9 2
 @kopaczus: He abandoned us...
  • 11 7
 @winko: not that I miss him, just wondering what happened to his obsessive-compulsive need to post all that crap on pinkbike. maybe he finally talked to his psychologist about it?
  • 24 3
 Loved that man
  • 25 1
 @kopaczus: He literally asked the mods to ban him, so they did.
  • 7 3
 @kopaczus: I guess he’s been banned from the internet for bringing the global bandwidth down for the rest of the world.
  • 15 0
 @jjhobbs: Now we have DCA. not quite as funny, but just as annoying
  • 4 0
 Gone but not forgotten
  • 32 1
 @DylanH93 - here's for you to feel young again.

Long bikes are here only because they got lobbied by unusually tall people like Paul Aston who worked for Geometron, Chris Porter or Jens Staudt who worked with Pivot on geometries. We all pay price for tall people pushing their agenda. Big cassettes are just wrong, carbon bars suck for arm pump, what you need is an Eleiko bar, 100+kg of weights and romanian deadlifts.

I am here to push for 32" wheels. but maybe just for April fools... oh the dopamine!!!
  • 2 0
 @EnduroManiac: Nah, just Ever Giving
  • 11 0
 @kopaczus: Nah, self medicating. I have been banned by DCaddict and Mattlamb something something. I have seen over the months how much they missed me and they spread their message of love and tolerance. i cracked man I cracked...
  • 4 0
 @jjhobbs: I miss him too in a very strange way.
  • 1 0
 @T4THH: lol and troy lee designs
  • 33 0
 I forgot what day it was. Now I’m sad.
  • 2 0
 @Dragonfly- I was about to post speculating if it would have Super Boost and a PF BB.......Then realized it was April 1st.
  • 24 0
 Meanwhile Yoann and Guerilla Gravity are secretly working on their Smiling Baguette race bike with built in bluetooth surround sound that plays "The wheels on the bus go round and round all the way down"!!
  • 23 0
 "• All of the new bike’s technologies will be upgraded from Three Letter Acronyms (TLA™) to Four Letter Acronyms"
  • 8 0
 This was clearly a typo. Should be "Four Letter Advanced Acronyms."
  • 17 0
 I'm calling it: the joke about this is, that it actually isn't one. Hear me out: Pivot did already built the "Frankentrail", an experimental 120 mm trailbike prototype with 62.5° head angle, for Jens Staudt from mtb-news.de back in 2016. And Chris Cocalis even built an extra frame in his size to test it himself. I might be completely out to lunch, but it would kinda make sense, wouldn't it?
  • 3 0
 Interesting theory!
  • 6 0
 hmmm I wonder where Jens Staudt works these days...
  • 2 0
 Jens is to Pivot what Paul Aston is to Nicolai as far as I am concerned. I installed 1.5deg angle set in my bike, now it has 63.5” head angle. I don’t notice any difference in how it handles steepest and most technically demanding local trails. I am all sold on yuge bikes. I was wrong all these years. Like Jens, I want 32” bikes even though I am much shorter than he is. I think what we need now is more usd forks with glide bushings and more Trust style forks since they handle slack head angles better. Preferably DC USD forks. We can then comfortably dip into sub 60degree head angle area.
  • 16 0
 S.H.A.T. is where it's at
  • 12 0
 Actually it is closely related to existing Steeper Headtube Inclination Technology
  • 6 0
 @dave-f: It's the Donut so it should be: Slacker* Headtube Inclination Tech
  • 12 0
 Plot twist: It's actually happening. Pretty foreseeable, honestly.

Predictions:
Not a Pivot, but Pivot helps with the design and maybe manufacturing.
Announced by the end of summer.
Addition of extremely adjustable geometry.
  • 16 0
 Pre-ordered! Big Grin
  • 12 0
 It's great! Mine just came yesterday
  • 3 0
 Mine shipped with a big crack in the top tube, but it still sends fine. I've only broken five ribs on it so far. I can't imagine how few bones I break once the new frame arrives!
  • 12 0
 Well I fell for that completely
  • 12 0
 Man I wish I was a professional teenager. Now I'm just an amateur toddler
  • 12 1
 Pinkbike you wild for this one
  • 11 0
 The real April fools joke would be them actually doing this.
  • 9 0
 I was so excited until I scrolled down to the comments and realised my foolishness!! Well played PB and Pivot... well played!! Oh- and Fuck you for getting our hopes up!!!
  • 2 0
 I think that last part about a very limited run might be serious.
  • 1 0
 Ha! For sure. Fuck the both of ya!!!
  • 7 0
 '...handcrafted with a premium blend of *CULINARY* grade, ultra-exclusive Al13™ alloy...'
  • 3 0
 If it’s culinary grade, you know it’s the best.
  • 4 0
 It's great for forks though...
  • 6 0
 Do you promise it comes with a 32" front wheel?
  • 7 0
 Full review tomorrow!
  • 4 0
 I got as far as the pivot enduro team racing it before I twigged it was and April fools, I shake my fist in your general Pinkbike......why I orta...
  • 3 0
 This joke doesn’t work. If it’s designed by Pivot, that means it will have some version of DW-Link. And Weagle is a genius and will end making this thing actually work! Joke over.
  • 4 0
 They should also move from three words models (Super Deluxe Ultimate) to four words models. Maybe Super Deluxe Ultimate Turbo.
  • 1 0
 Ultra! Mega! NitroX! So many words to choose from
  • 5 0
 190 super mega ultra wide boost spacing on this one?
  • 8 1
 Thought about going full NJS with a Keirin 110mm rear spacing, but they talked me into sticking with regular Boost 148.
  • 7 0
 That would be a fat bike standard, literally already exists LOL! But lets do it right and make it a 197mm (same difference from 135 to 142mm)
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: Thats unacceptable, bike so far ahead of its time needs so much better hub spacing compared to this barely rideable stuff we have to deal with nowadays...
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: 110 mm rear spacing and 14spd cassette outside of rear triangle?
  • 2 0
 197 actually if you don't want QR dropouts Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @iduckett: they also had 190x12mm thru axles like us old school riders that had 135x12 and 150x12 setups on our FR and DH bikes of the past.
  • 3 0
 How can you go for the outdated Four Letter Acronyms?
The world already moved on to Extended Three Letter Acronyms (ETLA™)
  • 2 0
 Exactly what I needed today, a happy distraction while it is snowing. I think that the Grim Doughnut is the best name ever and if pinkbike could convince anyone to actually use that name on a bike I would so buy it.
  • 5 0
 This just in: Specialized sues Pivot over infringement of S.H.A.T patent
  • 5 0
 Featuring Shimanos AXS
  • 1 0
 I heard that sram had something called Di2 in the works...
  • 5 0
 0.69% stiffer, noice!
  • 3 0
 The donut in the bottom illustration looks more like something you'd see after a cat walks past you
  • 1 0
 When I worked at Syncros Pipin made Peter a cane out of Syncros parts to ridicule him. Peter took his cane to Interbike and sold about 100 of them getting the last laugh. People would buy this bike for the halibut. Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Ah that's a great story. I heard Pippin passed away recently. I didn't really know him but he's had a huge, under recognized impact on the sport.
  • 2 0
 It’s quiet around these parts at this hour. Steeper head tube angle , aka S.H.A.T should be adopted industry wide IMO.
  • 2 0
 Super limited special Sick Bicycles S.H.A.T. colab edition available for pre-order upon receiving 100% deposit.
  • 2 0
 With all those water bottles, roadies posing as mountain bikers is the first thing that comes to mind...Fool
  • 3 0
 Mannnn... I so badly wanted this to be real
  • 2 0
 This is the most exciting industry news I ever heard if it's not April fools
  • 3 0
 damn, that donut looks like goatse
  • 3 0
 Does it come with pedals ? Asking for a friend ...
  • 2 0
 They're calling it S.H.A.T because that's what you'll be doing when that head tube breaks
  • 3 0
 Am I the only one that wants a set of Knobstradamus tires!?
  • 1 0
 I want to be a Professional Teenager!!!! Where does one get a degree and/or a internship? I'm assuming this is a different job than unpaid intern...
  • 3 0
 Can we please get some rainbow sprinkled bird Pivot merch??
  • 2 1
 The real joke is that pinkbike can put out around four articles in two years and people are still going crazy over this bike.
  • 2 0
 Now Pinkbike just needs an article "Pinkbike signs Randy to EWS team. Will race Grim Donut in 2021."
  • 1 0
 TLA should now be replaced with FL(NOE)A. (Four Letter (Now One Extra) Acronym). It's the future, and sits nicely with the pinkbike maths approach.
  • 3 1
 IT'S HAPPENING! Someone hold me.
  • 2 0
 finally! Cant wait to ride it!
  • 2 0
 So we will see this bike next week - April fools!!!!!!!
  • 2 0
 Oh man I really hope it comes with a Fox 39 and a DHX3
  • 2 0
 After 2020 this seems perfectly plausible...
  • 2 0
 I think that the whole ship-stuck-in-a-canal bit was better
  • 1 0
 Nice try, I might have fallen for it if you'd published it six months late.
  • 1 3
 Love it, nice read on April 1. The real April fools is that Mike took the p!55 making the GD and YB raced it against his boutique bike and the GD was the fastest down that hill. All those fooled by marketing 365 days a year....
  • 1 0
 How could you miss an opportunity to make it reverse-mullet with 27,5 front and 29 rear? Razz
  • 2 0
 Knobstradamus! Schwalbe should produce theseSmile
  • 2 0
 How do I apply to be a professional teenager?
  • 2 0
 Really hoping this happens
  • 1 0
 So are the reports of ultra fast times of Yoann Barelli also part of the joke?
  • 1 0
 Take my damn money! I don’t care what the calendar says, I need it in Pink!
  • 1 0
 I think that pivot should really throw some bucks to make it happen. Perfect for marketing and to keep us entertained.
  • 2 0
 First of April.... I don't care, Well done Pivot !!!! :-))
  • 2 0
 Mike Levy - Professional Teenager
  • 1 0
 Four Letter Acronyms... recommend Four Letter Acronym Words (FLAWs (TM)).

But really, TLA ADL FTW LOL

All Day Long
  • 1 0
 Looks like they partnered with Harley Davidson on the geometry. They should rake out the front end further.
  • 1 0
 I was disappointed that you didn’t include a Tool Well Attenuation Technology box in the down tube...
  • 1 0
 I just got an email from Guerilla Gravity. Yoaann stole your geo for his Gnarvana.
  • 1 0
 Taj's devil drawing minus the pivot logo would make for a sweet PB shirt/sticker.
  • 1 0
 So @brianpark, what part of this is fully April Fools, and what part of it makes it "kinda"?
  • 1 0
 Snipping head tubes since 2021
  • 1 0
 So it's a S.H.A.T. DONUT. That pretty much sums it up.
  • 1 0
 " 0.69% increase in stiffness-to-weight and ride quality"
Niceeeeeeee !
  • 1 0
 I bet that SHAT technology is the shit
  • 1 0
 professional teenager !!!! dream job
  • 2 1
 The only April fools joke here is 157 Super Boost.
  • 1 0
 I still have my 2005 VP-Free
  • 2 1
 Looks like a Sess... full review tomorrow?
  • 2 1
 $15,000 dollar mountain bikes wait they exist outside of April first.
  • 1 0
 Producing a bike in American facility... that’s a funny joke. Hah hah
  • 2 1
 the devil holding the overly illustrated donut hole is extensively sexual.
  • 1 0
 @BoneDog: That's the way the devil likes them.
  • 1 0
 I'm waiting for the Sur Ron version for Swinley Forest laps.
  • 1 0
 God damn it that drawing is bad. I love it!
  • 1 0
 What is this.... April fools?? -checks calendar.
  • 1 0
 Finally some reach numbers a large man can ride. If only it were true!
  • 1 0
 Was the original design actually drawn by Waki?
  • 2 0
 Take my money!
  • 1 0
 “A pivot higher than Snoop in the mid-90s.” LOL
  • 1 0
 I can see Joann Barelli dropping Guerilla Gravity already.
  • 1 0
 hahahhaha but really, where is the bike? TAKE MY MONEY!!!
  • 1 0
 Room for only 3 waterbottles? Hard pass.
  • 1 0
 Not a joke: Pivot paying Green$bike to post this
  • 2 0
 Looks like a ....bagel.
  • 1 0
 Yayyy
  • 1 0
 Nice one!
  • 1 0
 Nice try Lao Che...
  • 1 0
 Pinkbike rocks
  • 3 5
 This joke would've been 1000% better without all the obvious exaggerated nonsense. But imho that goes for 95% of all onlne april 1st jokes. :-)
  • 11 0
 Your comment would've been 100% better without that exaggerated 1000% nonsense.
  • 2 0
 @mi-bike: Yeah, I guess I overdid it with the 1000% :-D Still: personally I much prefer the jokes that seem plausible, even if you read well. This one most obviously isn't :-)

Cheers, Lars
  • 2 0
 @delarscuevas: I get what you're saying, I felt the same. Without the exaggerated "release information", it might have actually been believable.
  • 2 0
 @iduckett: Indeed. I say Pinkbike and Pivot should make up for it to the PB community by actually building and selling it! :-)
  • 1 0
 apri fools ograsm
  • 1 0
 You cheeky bastards
  • 2 1
 Yawn.
  • 1 1
 ...right, I see. It's 1st of April.
  • 1 1
 knowing pivot, it'll probably be like 12 000$
  • 1 0
 Bruh april fools
  • 1 0
 oops, nvm
  • 2 4
 Pivot is still in business?
  • 1 1
 Not if they actually produce a piece of shite like this....they’re not . This site is so in the pocket of the industry its disgusting...April fools or no ‍♂️
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