Canfield Bikes Introduces 2020 Balance With Limited Edition Raw Alloy Version

Jan 30, 2020 at 9:11
by Canfield Bikes  
2020 Canfield Balance Limited Edition

Press Release: Canfield Bikes

Canfield Bikes, high-end boutique mountain bike manufacturer, today introduces the 2020 Canfield Balance, the 4th generation of our signature all-mountain bike. For 2020, the Balance features 169 millimeters of rear travel, boost spacing, a custom CBF chainstay protector, refreshed geometry and longer reach across all sizes.

The 2020 Canfield Balance is available in a Limited Edition version featuring a polished raw mirror-finish aluminum frame, rainbow oil-slick links and a numbered production badge featuring Lance Canfield’s signature. Only 100 will be produced. In addition, the Balance will be available in two new metallic flake factory colors, Desert Loam and Deep Space.

2020 Canfield Balance Desert Loam

2020 Canfield Balance Deep Space

bigquotesThe Balance embodies our idea of a big-hit all-mountain bike. Efficient enough for all-day epics, but burly enough for chairlift laps and big lines.—Lance Canfield

Built around the patented Canfield Balance Formula suspension system, the 2020 Balance is a big-mountain brawler unafraid to earn its turns. Canfield has been refining parallel-link suspension for two decades, and the result is maximum traction, effortless climbing and no room for excuses when the going gets rough.

2020 Canfield Balance Limited Edition

The Balance’s CBF tuned linkage offers smooth, consistent travel and a slightly progressive leverage ratio that makes all 169 millimeters of travel available while offering a predictable bottomless feel.

The 2020 Balance features a slack 64-degree head-angle and longer front center combined with a 170-millimeter fork (with the ability to run up to a 180mm fork) provide confident descending, while short 16.5-inch chainstays keep handling nimble and playful.

The 2020 Balance is available in S, M, L and XL for pre-order now at CanfieldBikes.com as Factory Build complete bikes, as well as frame, fork & shock and frame & shock packages.

2020 Canfield Balance Limited Edition

2020 Canfield Balance Limited Edition

2020 Canfield Balance Limited Edition

2020 Canfield Balance Limited Edition

2020 Canfield Balance Limited Edition

FEATURES
• 27.5” All-Mountain / Enduro
• 7005 aluminum with CNC links
• Patented Canfield Balance Formula™ Suspension
• 169mm travel
• Metric shock sizing (230mm x 65mm)
• Includes DVO Jade X Coil Shock
• Boost Spacing
• Custom CBF Chainstay Protector
• Tapered headtube
• 15mm pivot bearings
• Water-bottle mount
• Replaceable rear derailleur hanger, spare hanger included
• Signed and numbered production badge (Limited Edition only)
• Available in Limited Edition Polished Raw (w/ rainbow oil-slick links), Desert Loam and Deep Space (w/ black links)
• Available in Small, Medium, Large and X-Large


COMPLETE BIKE FACTORY BUILD
• Fork: DVO Diamond D1 Boost - 170mm
• Rear Shock: DVO Jade X Coil
• Wheels: DT Swiss E1900 Spline 30
• Tires: Maxxis Minion DHF 2.5 WT
• Drivetrain: SRAM NX Eagle 12-speed
• Cassette: SRAM NX Eagle11-50T
• Cranks: NX DUB crankset with 32T ring
• Bar: Spank Spoon 35 - 800mm
• Stem: Spank Split 35 - 50mm
• Grips: Spank Spike 30mm
• Brakes: SRAM G2 RS
• Rotors: SRAM Centerline 180mm
• Seatpost: SDG Tellis 150mm (internally routed)
• Saddle: Custom Canfield SDG Radar MTN

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187 Comments

  • 75 1
 DVO specced alloy rigs are so hot right now.
  • 7 1
 this one has been since 2016., fanstastic
  • 16 0
 and this one even comes in "blue steel"!
  • 19 1
 Limited edition....NX drivetrain.
  • 4 0
 @MrPulse: Yeah what is this? Specialized?
  • 4 7
 @MrPulse: the NX drivetrain doesn’t suck. Yeah I prefer GX but the difference in feel is minimal. Sram stuff works.
  • 7 4
 @JamesBarton: sram stuff breaks
  • 3 0
 @SPKeen: I've killed cranks and brakes (both Shimano and Sram), but I've only had good experiences with the Sram Eagle stuff. Could be luck.
  • 30 10
 Hot bikes. 420mm chainstays don't sounds balanced though ironically enough
  • 20 3
 But they feel so nice
  • 43 1
 420 CSL for getting that front wheel off the ground. So much easier to hop and pull on shorter CSL. Not every bike need the same geo. Good job Lance! I’ll be back when my wallet is ready.
  • 5 0
 Own a current balance. It's so fun with the short rear. I even ride small dirt jumps with it.
  • 13 45
flag getonyourbike (Jan 31, 2020 at 3:22) (Below Threshold)
 @adrennan: If you enjoy the feeling of your front tyre washing out when you try and corner. Be my guest.
  • 9 1
 @getonyourbike: I own a previous balance. That is not an issue.
  • 26 13
 @getonyourbike: it's still mostly in the skill. Like manualing and bunnyhopping long stays. Nonetheless A good option for those who like to jump. If you are on the ground kind of guy just wanting to carve turns at speed, yeah... get something with 440-450 with that reach and head angle. Options are many.
  • 17 0
 @getonyourbike:
It's so fun cornering the previous Balance. Slapping berms and having fun. It's not an Enduro plow machine, it's a bike that you can play but still have travel to soak some big hits. Canfield isn't going for fastest way down, it's going for having the most fun way down.
  • 21 7
 @getonyourbike: learn to ride.
  • 4 6
 @platnum: I could thanks.
  • 5 2
 @getonyourbike: Stop sitting on your rear tyre then? Razz
  • 13 36
flag getonyourbike (Jan 31, 2020 at 4:46) (Below Threshold)
 @gkeele: So much advice from people that have never seen me ride. And I spent 3 years on iterations of a sponsors' enduro bike with 425mm CS and near 500mm reach, which is why I feel informed enough to comment.
  • 12 9
 @getonyourbike: it’s an article about a Canfield. If you said just that under article on Optic or Pole you’d be upvoted all the way... you are right, just wrong place to be right as long as you are into actual speed Smile like participating in EWS... oh wait you did haha

Just wondering... how tall are you?
  • 10 8
 @WAKIdesigns: I think you're right about that. Bit of an echo chamber. 1.87m or 6th 2" in 'murican.
  • 3 2
 @getonyourbike: like many people have tried to say, it’s all about rider preference and feel. You may be a racer, but we got riders like brook Macdonald still learning to get their body centered. So just because with this geo you would wash out doesn’t mean it’ll happen for other people. And remember that’s just the frame. The entire feel of the bike can change based on your contact points. Pedals and crank. Bar (length, sweep, rise) and stem (height, length).
  • 10 3
 @Happypanda1337: It's also riding the largest frame size of any bike that doesn't have proportionately sized chainstays. Any bike will ride completely differently when the front centre length changes by 80mm between the S and XL without the CS changing. It's likely a decent cornering bike in a smaller size.
  • 2 0
 @getonyourbike:
I see where you are coming from. I'm shorter 5'5 so I ride a small frame. It feels good on a small frame. I can see if you're racing as you are it would get quite sketch at high speeds. I'm not pushing speeds like that.
  • 6 16
flag jclnv (Jan 31, 2020 at 6:54) (Below Threshold)
 @getonyourbike: Yeah but rad bros have to pull sick manuals dude. Even if it means a sketch as shit bike with shit weight distribution and shit spring rate differential.

Pure shit but manuals and wheelies....!
  • 3 3
 @getonyourbike: it’s not just about reach. It’s also About the head angle since both things dictate front center/ rear center balance. Then SAG or rather plushness of front to plushness of the rear plays some role. The more travel in the rear the more the imbalance Front/ rear center will be felt. Park bikes can easily get away with short stays and even have it as a desirable feature as it will be easier to pop lips of jumps or corner tight. But flag out speed through rough stuff, especially big holes, and when you don’t know tracks very well, give me 440 -445 to my usual preferable 450-460 reach and 64-65 HA
  • 2 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I'm well aware that HA plays a part but reach (and ST length) is normally the only thing that changes between sizes, which is why I said it. If we're trying to sound smart about loosely related aspects of bike geometry, then HT length and bar height also influence how much you're able to actively weight the front wheel.
  • 6 3
 @jclnv: what is wrong with manuals and wheelies?! I could turn it around and laugh At you for being a hardcore bro riding so hard and gnarly stuff, Val Di Sole feels like Down Country to you
  • 13 1
 @getonyourbike: I am also 6'2" inches tall and prefer shorter chainstay bikes. I wish I could get a large Norco with a small sized chainstay numbers but that adjusted sizing actually puts me off from them. Point is, to each their own. I have also raced and am decently fast, I prefer the playful nature of shorter stays as those bikes are just more fun to ride for me and I have no problem with front tire washing. I guess my style is just adjusted to that and it was worth it to do so to have that jibbing, manual-happy nature.
Your original comment was so derisive towards all short CS bikes that of course you got the attention of those who like those. It was how you said it, not what you said that cause the negative response.
  • 6 4
 @getonyourbike: the feet and inches thing is not ‘murican. It’s imperial and comes from England.
  • 4 7
 @WAKIdesigns: How often do you do wheelies and manuals on the trail? I think prioritizing cornering might be a better idea.
  • 7 0
 @mattrix2: "Canfield isn't going for fastest way down"...

Shhh...don't let the Jedi hear you.
  • 1 0
 @gkeele: kinda hard when its right below your balls.
  • 1 4
 @jclnv: +1
  • 3 0
 @jclnv:
Every chance I get. That feeling of a perfect manual through the trail. Owwee. I still need work on it, but so fun.
  • 1 0
 @krashDH85:
Haven't tried one. Maybe someday!
  • 17 1
 @jclnv: idk bro, if you can't corner on 420mm with a low BB, I dont know what to tell you. 420mm isn't even crazy. Remember 26" wheels? People have cornered and raced on all sorts of bikes with extreme success. Today's bikes are easier than ever to ride. It's arguably dangerous how easy a noob can get hualin' down a trail. I'm happy going 80% as fast and jibbin' and goofin' on the trail. Let my people have new bikes too.
  • 1 0
 @speed10: Fair point.
  • 2 1
 @speed10: That might be true but front centres have grown massively since 26" wheels were the standard, upsetting the balance.
  • 2 2
 @jclnv: erm, not very often but then I like to pop off roots and rocks to get as much straight line ability as possible. Look, my sweet spot is around 435-445 for a 160-200mm bike... so I don’t care...
  • 4 0
 There’s more than one way to skin a cat and what’s wrong with the consumer having choices? There’s no absolute right or wrong when it comes to chainstay length
  • 2 1
 Ditto! As a taller person the 70.3 actual STA and the super short rear stays on the XL frame is pretty disappointing for a new for 2020 bike... doubt I would get that 75.7 seat tube angle at my saddle height and with the short stays that seems like a bike that's gonna have serious front end wander on climbs...?

Front end of the bike is 2020, but rear end seems more 2010 at best... Meh based on the geo chart, but for sure sometimes a bike surprises? Sweet looking bike! Decent pricing, the raw frame is awesome! Guess you could run a 160 fork and fix the geo if you don't have any rocks? Smile

Maybe when they do a 29er they can skew the geo further towards taller riders? Hopefully they won't pull a "rascal" and send out a mellow big wheel bike.
  • 1 1
 @jclnv: also... may I ask how tall are you?
  • 2 6
flag mybaben (Jan 31, 2020 at 12:01) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah that's WAY too short for riding steep gnar in the PNW!! Sorry mates, not happening...
  • 1 2
 @mybaben: if you can do it on a Tracer this bike will be more than fine.
  • 1 2
 @WAKIdesigns: Probably, but there's a difference between "being okay" and "being solid". I'd prefer something more stable. This bike is 12mm shorter than my 2015 Tracer. I def don't need a monster truck, but 420 seems unnecessarily short. Not sure why they went that direction. 430-436 is plenty playful. 440+ is monster truck. Wink
  • 3 2
 @mybaben: you obviously missed their FS 29er with 414 stays Smile
  • 1 2
 @WAKIdesigns: LOL!! OMG. Yes, I did. I'm a 275 man, so I didn't bother to look at the 29er. Smile I guess those are for their wheelie contests during their lunch breaks...
  • 1 0
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/18232866

There needs to be an industry standard for where seat tube angles are measured. (specific seat rail height?) Granted there is a little distortion/pincushion in the photo and I'm just picking points. BUT, you'd have to lower the saddle like 3 inches from their photo to get their published STA and I'd be about 75 degree's at my seat height.
  • 2 2
 @stiingya: how tall are you?
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Little over 6'2", and I'm doing about a 32" BB to top of the seat plus or minus. So if I used "top of the seat center" to figure my STA, (versus the rails i was just measuring) on the new Balance I'd be at about 74.7* not the end of the world, but for sure not ideal or up to date for 2020...
  • 3 1
 @stiingya: I understand why this is a problem then... actually... I just realized that all this time I have been arguing over geometry with people who are at least 2” taller than me and evidently still have issues finding bikes that are fitting them... Eureka...

Yeah I can see how eff seat angles are hard to measure for folks that run seats above stack heights.
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Exactly. That's why it would be a lot better if manufacturers, at the very least, would make the STA steeper on the L and XL bikes. 75' is fine for S and M...
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: 175cm.
  • 1 0
 @westeast: Do you think there’s a correct weight distribution number?

Most vehicle dynamics guys will argue to the death that there is. If so rear/front centre ratio is an absolute.
  • 4 0
 420 CSL + 169mm of travel=power levels over 9000.
  • 5 0
 @jclnv: this is a correct statement, if all human bodies are the same and don’t shift mass while riding.
  • 2 0
 @mybaben: I couldn't agree with you more. I ride a canfield riot and love the steep seat angle and short chain stays. bikes need steeper seat angles and seat posts need to have more nose down adjustments for tall riders. 6'4" and riding an XL.
  • 4 2
 @sriracha: yeah maybe originally, but we've seen the light and adopted the logical metric system/most brits don't have a problem working with both sets of numbers, Americans seem to struggle with metric which is strange as its just adding or subtracting zeros, not having to remember how many of one unit is in the next one up.
  • 1 1
 @getonyourbike: not sure why anyone would downvote this comment....
  • 3 0
 @getonyourbike: Bring back those Intense G3 dropouts and we could skip this whole discussion ; )
  • 1 0
 @PB-J: You won't hear anything against that idea from me!
  • 2 1
 @jclnv: I've been in the autocross scene with an e36 M3 and I'm aware of some of the lengths guys will go to balance the corners of their cars and arguments over ideal weight distribution. However, even in the car world it's not a settled science (is the science ever truly settled?). I imagine there are better ratios for a given purpose. However, cars and bikes are not completely the same. As a driver I can't alter the weight distribution of a car as I drive around a track (at least not in the same way I can on a bike). On a bike I can have a great effect on it. Additionally, depending on how I like to ride, my preferences for CS length, front center length, etc can all be different.
  • 2 1
 @westeast: Yep totally. It is different on bicycles as the rider is the main mass but I still like a baseline on flat terrain. Anything more than 43/57 starts to feel too rearward weight biased in corners for me.
  • 1 0
 @westeast: the Pinkbike audience is partial to Buick and Porsche. Also, as a driver, you can significantly alter the weight distribution of your vehicle by changing its acceleration or direction.
  • 1 0
 @JimmyWeir: of course you can, but can you do a wheelie in your Buick?

Are real 911s in the short or long chainstay camp?
  • 2 0
 @stiingya: i'm on the last gen Balance in an XL (equivalent to a L on the new sizing). CS is the same length and CTA is slightly slacker. I'm 6'4" and the only problem I have on steep climbs is my lack of cardio.
  • 1 0
 @DCS1138: Have you rode something that fits you better to compare? I can ride my old 2008-9? Giant ReignX most anywhere I do my newer bikes. But I don't want to... Smile There is no doubt the bike is too short, too low, just too small and the weight shifts fore and aft are something you have to constantly adjust for. Sure it's nimble and it wheelies well. But nah...
  • 1 0
 Out of curiosity I checked one of these...

www.pinkbike.com/photo/18248455
  • 2 1
 @inked-up-metalhead: I would be totally down for a full switch to the Metric System in America.
  • 2 3
 @sriracha: We will get there, after the boomers die off. It’s a handful of good ol boys digging their heels in. Can’t wait to put them 1.82 meters underground.
  • 1 0
 @speed10: LOL, I thought you were saying we'll get decent geo on all XL bikes when the boomers are gone... Smile

Jkn
  • 1 0
 @stiingya: wow.. that’s a pretty funny misinterpretation. Metric. We will get metric one day.
  • 13 0
 Nice! When's the Riot coming back ??
  • 5 0
 According to a response from Canfield on mtbr later this season it looks like. Their next bike will be gravity oriented. Then they will release a more trail oriented bike.
  • 15 0
 @mattrix2:

170mm travel bike isn’t already “gravity oriented”?
  • 6 2
 @johnnygolucky: 170mm travel bike isn’t already “trail oriented”?
  • 9 0
 @nurseben: @johnnygolucky: this is why we need to bring the word "freeride" back. 170r/180f, short chainstays sounds like an absolute blast.
  • 8 0
 @johnnygolucky:

I'm guessing return of the Jedi with CBF.
  • 2 3
 @scvkurt03: As a fan of agile bikes, as much as I would like to agree with you, long travel bikes with slack geos and fat tires are usually going fast and kinetic energy means that what barely lifts your wheels at “trail bike speed” tends to send you flying at “super enduro/ freeride” speed. Hence less Rider input is needed to send stuff as long as you keep the speed up. So may as well keep stays 430+. I think current Banshee Darkside is the best bike of this kind.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I guess if you're talking big mountain freeride. The stuff around me is either high speed jumps or mid to low speed tech, rolls, and drops. I appreciate an agile bike in those circumstances.
  • 9 0
 Oh man that linkage is sick
  • 44 0
 "Oh man that linkage is slick" there, corrected it for you.
  • 4 0
 I’m actually curious about the kinematics. Revel licensed Canfield design but it’s a slightly different look and feel. I wonder how this one behaves as the pivot points are in a slightly different location
  • 16 9
 limited edition factory build... with DT E1900 wheels and NX.... I'm speechless
  • 24 2
 For $3299 with a full DVO suspension.
  • 5 0
 Sorry, 3399 for the special edition finish.
  • 19 0
 yeah but its also only $3300, you can upgrade the drivetrain and save that wheelset for the park.
  • 13 0
 The pricing and builds seem downright fair. It’s refreshing.
  • 1 2
 wots wrong with nx?
  • 7 0
 For being in Grand Junction now, I don't see a lot of MRP on there...
  • 6 1
 If you can ride... it's you, not the bike.. iv done many flips,spins, superman's and long long trail days all on the same Balance... go ripp!!
  • 4 0
 Cant.
  • 3 1
 I was wondering if they increase the CSL for the latest version to follow the trend: no. I always had short CSL, even before my balance 2016, and was happy with it. I have tried recently the Banshee titan in size L: monster truck compared, you can go fast and straight. Another way to ride. Perhaps I need to get used to long wheelbase and 29er... Proposing different CSL (from 420 to 430) could have been a good option at least to feel the difference and adapt depending on your ride (enduro race, trail, pure fun...). By the way, I am so stoke with my balance from 2016, the frame is bulletproof, and the feeling for me is really good. Only sometimes in raw terrain at high speed, I see the difference with my friend, it is more "funky"
  • 4 0
 Looks great, and I'm a fan of Canfield, but I chuckled when chainstay protector made it into the top three things to brag about in the first paragraph.
  • 5 0
 Looks real sharp, and a nice price to boot
  • 2 1
 I was wondering if they increase the CSL to follow current trend... I always had short CS, before my balance 2016. And I was happy with it. I have tried the latest Banshee titan, size L. Monster truck compared: for sure you can go straight, fast. But I was like piloting a truck. Perhaps I need to get used to long wheelbase, and 29ers. The same for mullet, and increase the seat angle: but not so much change here compared to previous version. By the way, I was stoke with my balance, and the frame is bulletproof. The CBF is good for pedaling. I was looking also at Revel but do not like carbon... I admit that this limited edition is sick.
  • 4 0
 I love my 2017 Canfield Balance. Never even thought about replacing it...until now.
  • 1 0
 I hear you. I'm 2 bikes past my beloved 2016, which was my favorite rig ever, but I gotta wait until there's internal routing. It's coming.
  • 6 1
 170mm bike with G2s and 180mm rotors? Just plain dumb
  • 6 0
 Welcome back, friends!
  • 2 0
 Looks kinda reminiscent of a RAAW Madonna V2. Just that instead of the cool-factor of raw aluminium and clean minimalistic lines, it's got more of a weird 90's steeze going on.
  • 3 0
 People like canfield more than they like water apparently. Wheres the bottle mount and comments about it?
  • 1 0
 The description says there's mounts. In a post on mtbr they said this is a prototype frame for press release not the finish product
  • 1 0
 @mattrix2: probably below the downtube. do you want a bottle there?
  • 1 0
 @squarewheel: no kidding. That doesnt count because its useless.
  • 4 0
 Based in Fruita/GJ metro but not an MRP fork to be seen Frown
  • 2 0
 Looks like they're offering MRP (and other options) on the frame & frame/fork pieces
  • 3 0
 Good to see a new canfield out. Love that desert loam color.
  • 4 1
 Can I call it the ``Canfield Stiffy``?... `cos you know...
  • 5 1
 me like the shiny
  • 1 0
 Love my raw 2016 Balance, it has a killer patina now. Seeing the 2020 I want to get a coil for it, already have a Diamond up front.
  • 3 0
 What is better then Raw sex? a Raw bike Smile
  • 2 1
 Glad to see @canfieldbikes getting back in the eyes of the market. Nice geo changes. You guys make a fantastically, capable and fun bike to ride. Cheers
  • 3 0
 Now we just need a new Jedi announcement.
  • 2 1
 Raw 7005 will corrode if I remember correctly , needs paint or anodizing . Still riding my ONE .
  • 3 0
 It will oxidise itself, much like titanium
  • 8 0
 Raw aluminum does oxidize, as does titanium and steel. However, unlike rust on steel, once aluminum is oxidized, the oxidized layer acts like an oxygen barrier and prevents further oxidization. It won’t rot through the way rust does with steel.
With my raw aluminum Balance, I just touch it up once a year with steel wool and Mother’s aluminum polish. My friend also has a raw Balance. He just left it alone and embraced the dull-grey aluminum look from the start. Both bikes look different but are equally awesome. Neither bike is corroding.
  • 1 0
 @sriracha: Exactly...you can get it to a mirror finish if you want. I did this with my YZ250 frame a couple of times
  • 1 0
 @drfunsocks: 7005 keeps oxidizing , Outland made this mistake and offered a fix it was so bad .
  • 4 2
 Already on sale? That's an Intense move.
  • 3 1
 Looks pretty short and long seattube????
  • 2 0
 Curious to see this against the rascal.
  • 2 0
 One is carbon, the other is not. Big price differences too.
  • 3 0
 @PHeller: I get that, I’m speaking more to the suspension and ride, since the revel is a Canfield brother project too.
  • 3 0
 A Rail would be a better comparison
  • 1 0
 @wpplayer18: fair point
  • 2 0
 Wonder why they didn’t go with onyx for that build. Sick af
  • 1 1
 Never seen onyx on an oem build
  • 1 0
 Giant reign sx, giant glory had one @lognar:
  • 1 1
 Probably because they're really expensive and if people are going to spend that kind of money they don't all want onyx hubs.
  • 3 0
 @hmstuna: i think they’re talking about the dvo onyx their more burly 36mm stanchion enduro dirk
  • 1 0
 @hmstuna: *fork
  • 1 0
 @frigofff: fair enough, that would make sense, I forgot the build had dvo.
  • 2 3
 It's a beauty but I think they'd sell more with a good geo Mullet and adjustable or varying chain stays. I've always been curious about Canfield bikes but never have gotten to the 'must have' stage.
  • 2 0
 2020 the year of metal!!!
  • 2 1
 Now this bike looks too short wheelbase and too slack seat tube angle... Or not?
  • 2 4
 For me I would like longer chainstays and steeper seat angle, I have some pretty steep climbs here and I don't like my current bike for the steep climbs because of its seat angle and it has longer CS. Maybe they will come out with something closer to what I want later.
  • 1 0
 Kinda seems silly to showcase a bike with an oilslick link without speccing it with the new AXS oilslick components.
  • 1 0
 Definitely something we discussed and looked into. We are expecting quite a few folks to go the route of a frame or frame fork to build it up with such a spec. That's what I am leaning toward. Smile
  • 1 3
 @mattrix2: actually im pretty sure it will be a plow machine with those very short chainstays... the front wheel will plow when you tryn haul ass through a flat corner.

@WAKIdesigns: 450 chainstay is still too short to balance out a 450 reach and 64 degree head angle unless your exclusively going down very very steep trails
  • 2 0
 damn shame this isn't a 170mm bike.
  • 1 0
 That 1mm will really make or break the ride...
  • 4 2
 External cabling FTW! Good job welcome back!!!
  • 1 1
 Um... no? The only differences I wanted are maybe 170 plus internal routing? Can't say I've ever loved a bike more than my balance though.
  • 6 0
 @ranke: internal cable routing is nice until you have to change brake lines. Then it's a pain in the ass.
  • 2 0
 You had me at "Raw Alloy"
  • 1 0
 On a Balance now and considering upgrading to a Nomad. Would love to see a comparison of the new Balance and Gen 4 Nomad.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a transition Covert which I still own from 2011, just saying??? ????
  • 1 0
 Still riding my 2010! Check out my profile
  • 1 0
 Hoping those oil slick links can fit on a 17 balance and are available!
  • 1 0
 Wouldn't be limited edition if they had them for sale.
  • 3 2
 Good its January and Im low on Balance....I see mysefl out..
  • 2 1
 Something moved in me pants...that's hawwwt
  • 1 0
 That close up of the oil slick linkage, right?
  • 4 3
 Pourquoi des disques en 180mm?
—>203 minimum
C’est idiot.
Love
  • 1 1
 Vraiment! At least a 200/203 at the front.
  • 6 1
 jamais content ?? get a 300 rotor
  • 3 0
 Omelette du fromage! Doit etre de 400 au minimum
  • 2 0
 169mm travel, nice...
  • 1 0
 So is this an Alloy version of a Revel Rail or is totally different?
  • 2 0
 It's most definitely different.
  • 1 0
 Cant wait for the updated RIOT/TOIR
  • 2 2
 Bruhh that was like the very first aluminum bike I have ever been interested in!!
  • 2 0
 Sick frame. Great job.
  • 2 0
 Frame looks sick.
  • 2 1
 Down-Country Plus, I'll Take It!
  • 2 1
 Wow, that's what I call a real beauty with all the attributes of a beast
  • 1 0
 Yeah Lance!! Bike looks mint!! I'll be contacting you.....
  • 2 1
 The hell does “jibbing” mean? Is that the new “playful” ?
  • 1 0
 It's the old playful
  • 1 0
 @SPKeen: yes
  • 1 1
 Thanks, that there are plenty of bike manufacturers that not follow the 29er virus. Like Specialized.
  • 1 0
 Missed opp ... Desert Bling with that type of shine !
  • 1 0
 That is one hell of a balance bike
  • 1 0
 Beautiful.
  • 1 0
 Iwa
  • 1 1
 Oh and I forgot, made in the U.S.A, by a human...double pass
  • 2 3
 the seat tube looks almost parallel to the head tube.
  • 1 0
 Effective seat tube angle is 75.7. Head angle is 64.
  • 1 0
 @DCS1138: actual is 70ish, which is way slacker than i like.
  • 1 1
 @savagelake: but "actual" is kind of irrelevant with modern frame design. "Effective" tells you where you really are sitting in relation to the bottom bracket, which is what matters.
  • 2 0
 @DCS1138: only if u have the seat at the height where they measured the BS effective angle, which i never do.
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