Strava CEO & Co-Founder Michael Horvath Resigns (Again)

Feb 13, 2023 at 15:03
by Christie Fitzpatrick  

Michael Horvath, the CEO of online fitness tracking platform Strava, has announced that he is resigning from the company. In a letter posted to Strava’s press site on February 6, Horvath said that a search is underway for his successor.

bigquotesI have decided that Strava needs a CEO with the experience and skills to help us make the most of this next chapter. As co-founder and CEO, it’s only part of my job to ensure we are picking the right path to that destination. The other part of it is to ensure we always recruit and support the right leaders for the right times.—Michael Horvath

Horvath co-founded the San Francisco-based social network for outdoor enthusiasts in 2009 with Mark Gainey. This departure from Strava is not Horvath's (or Gainey's) first. In 2013, four years after he co-founded Strava, Horvath resigned with the intention of spending time with his wife, who was battling cancer. He eventually returned as CEO six years later.

Strava has experienced enormous growth in the past three years, becoming one of the leading social platforms for athletes around the world, with most of that growth occurring during the height of the pandemic. In May 2022, the company announced that more than 100 million athletes had joined the platform, with the number of Strava athletes doubling in size in between 2020-2022. In recent news, Strava has rolled out a host of new features, including 3D map features, a new off-road interface and the acquisition of global mapping platform Fatmap. The company has received increased criticism of late, most notably when it laid off 15% of its employees in December, followed by a significant increase in pricing structures that took customers by surprise.

First seen on DC Rainmaker. See below the full transcript from Horvath’s letter.

bigquotesDear Strava Community,

This week I let Strava, the company, know that we are commencing the search for my successor as CEO. I feel it is important to share the same news with you, the Strava Community.

When Mark Gainey and I, together with the founding team of Davis Kitchel, Chris Donahue, Mark Shaw and Pelle Sommansson, started Strava in 2009 we set out to bring people together around what they loved to do to be active. Over the years we have grown the team and our community well beyond the expectations we set for ourselves at the time. I am so appreciative of the hundreds of individuals who have joined us over the years in building Strava into what it is today, the service you rely on for daily connection and motivation. I am extremely proud that in my second run as CEO, through the dedication of this team and under my leadership, we have expanded who Strava is built for, invested in people and technologies to help more people find the motivation to be more active, and transformed our business success through the simple principle of making the product better.

I have great confidence that these investments will put Strava and our subscription at the center of connected fitness for many, many more people over the coming decade and beyond. This represents a massive opportunity to help the world be more active and healthier! Yet, as co-founder and CEO, it’s only part of my job to ensure we are picking the right path to that destination. The other part of it is to ensure we always recruit and support the right leaders for the right times. What got us here will not be exactly the same as what will get us there. I have decided that Strava needs a CEO with the experience and skills to help us make the most of this next chapter. The search for Strava’s next CEO is underway and I can’t wait to see how Strava becomes the company and service that motivates the world to move.

Mark and I are as committed to Strava’s future as ever. We’ve got exciting things in store for all of you in 2023. Together with the support of our leadership team and board of directors, I want to ensure that Strava doesn’t miss a beat between now and when we find our new leader.

With deep gratitude,
Michael—Michael Horvath


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226 Comments

  • 290 2
 KOM on man...
  • 4 6
 LOL Good one
  • 7 17
flag mi-bike (Feb 13, 2023 at 17:55) (Below Threshold)
 the guy is literally mapshaming with some of the latest features.
  • 161 5
 He will be the CEO again just so he can resign again, beat his own record and get the KOM again and also be the “Local Legend” all in one go
  • 12 0
 Latest challenge to clutter up my feed so I can't see my friends' activities:

"HORVATH CHALLENGE: How many times can you become CEO and resign from the same company?"
  • 132 17
 Strava is close to being the next RIM. So much potential in the app, but it just seems to promote the worst parts and doesnt look at what it 'could' be. It has a mine of data at this point and uses it for what? KOM's?

If it focussed on dependable stats to help you train, generative AI to help you discover new trails that are prime (weather patterns and 3 day trending ride data), it could be so much better. Plan ahead for shuttle meet ups or with other riders who ride similar times as you near you. I could go on for hours. So much here . . . and all could help build our community and make it more accessible.

They need a simple acquisition strategy (because there tech stack wont support what they need) and Strava could become relevant again in 1-2 years. They are sitting on a gold mine, but are stuck in the 90's, soon to be obsolete if they dont change fast.
  • 142 4
 Yeah but would you rather have a RIM job or a Strava job?
  • 35 1
 "Promote the worst parts"...The not-so-secret-secret sauce for the exponential growth in social media. #humanityisroadkillontheinformationsuperhighway
  • 28 6
 Looking at a weather forecast and planning a group ride isnt hard and I doubt ai could get riders to meet other riders. Most people don't want ai for that kind of thing. They just need a better subscription structure to provide value to more people willing to pay a lower price. I could give a shit less about training tools but I would be willing to pay a small amount to create segments and look at more kom detail than is offered to free members. They completely screwed themselves over with the recent price increase and are going to have a difficult time getting back to where they were but they don't need more stupid features.
  • 35 1
 They missed a huge opportunity by not using the 'Gear' label properly. If that were filled in correctly you could have a single leaderboard and see what everyone is riding, and filter where necessary.

Beat me down my local flow trail on a road bike? Good on you. I rinsed your eBike on a climb... Ha. You'd have to default it to eBike as that crowd are hopeless at setting that up properly.

It would probably save a chunk of database and maintenance space by having one 'true' set of segments too.
  • 6 14
flag valrock (Feb 13, 2023 at 18:29) (Below Threshold)
 Your ideas actually sound pretty cool. But if you are not developing your own app to implement these I strongly belive that software company with 100mil income already though about all of this
  • 9 12
 @HankHank: Gear is also a pretty nice tool for bike theft. I mean every single person on TOP 10 owns 8K+ bike at least
  • 7 0
 @valrock: it has though, Veloviewer has been created using the Strava API purely because Strava didn't dig into the data enough.

Just about all the Pro roadie teams use it (if you believe the banner) and pay a good amount of money on top of a Strava subscription.
  • 25 0
 they also failed massively by letting stuff like Zwift, TrainerRoad, Peloton etc. breeze by them in the structured training world. Strava has innovated so little, it's still just a ridelog tool and the social aspect is so limited and janky.
  • 2 4
 @valrock: I did get a KOM on a 1500 second hand hard tail . . . Since lost it but I haven’t asked how much their bike was
  • 2 0
 I would be willing to pay for the features you've described
  • 2 0
 @HankHank: As proved by yourself above. There is an e-bike and e-mountain bike option for those who ride off road (I assume this is what you meant to use, as it is an off road website)
  • 1 0
 @gooral: these are additions that need new segments created. It's not a huge deal but their database will have to track new segments on the same hill for MTB, running, unicycling etc etc which seems horribly inefficient.

I think the time for sorting that out has passed, which is a shame, it would be cool to see how the local runners compare, or the ski crowd when trails turn to piste.
  • 21 0
 @gramboh: Speaking of the janky social aspect.. The fact that after many years of asking, they still haven't implemented private messaging or being able to chat within a defined group - arguably a very significant component of the "social" part of any social network - boggles mine and many other users' minds.
  • 6 2
 Yeah, no thank you. I don't want AI-driven anything and I don't want my data mined to sell me more stuff than they already do. I want Strava to be exactly what it is, with the exception that I want them to fix their broken-ass automatic flagging system such that they automatically catch people in cars on bike segments or people on bikes on running segments.
  • 27 3
 I don't need a f*ckin app to tell me where to or how to ride. Ppl these days are so addicted to their phones its sickening. Riding is supposed to be a minimal phone thing. It's called "getting out in the woods."
Less buttons, more riding please.
  • 13 2
 @solf: I would say riding isn’t supposed to be anything other than what the person riding wants it to be. If you want to data log every inch of trail go for it, if you don’t that’s cool too.

Why does it bother you so much?
  • 2 0
 Privacy
  • 4 0
 My use of Strava is perhaps different. I use it to find trails. I can nerd for hours over the heatmaps for riding & walking, and draw up routes to explore. Save as routes and follow them on my Garmin.
I've discovered a lot of gold this way. I'm not really sure, but perhaps AI could do this as well, but AI would need some local knowledge and know the seasonal differences.

Second part is to host informal Fast Rides (segment rallies) where we use Strava for timekeeping. Works well enough.

The thing that nags me isn't really Strava's fault. All the data generated on where ppl ride is available to buy - and an excellent tool for planning cycleways etc. But it seems that local governments do not want this data - they always know best, and end up making sh1t decisions.
  • 3 0
 why don't you send in your CV and make it great?
  • 3 0
 @HankHank: I would like a 'DH' or 'Park' segment... If you do a park day and let your watch run, it totally falsifies the rest of your stats... unless it is a user error. But it should work like the Snowboard segment, where it only counts the downhills...
  • 2 0
 I just wish they could implement the very simplest level of error correction, or at least give the ability for users to delete obviously erroneous data points so I don't end up with completely useless data.
  • 1 0
 @gramboh: yep structured training options would also be really appreciated, it's weird to me that Strava doesn't feature this.
  • 77 0
 They really need to think hard about their pricing scheme. Why does strava cost more than Netflix per month?
  • 16 1
 Something something Wednesday Addams dentists
  • 47 1
 Feeding your Ego ain't cheap...
  • 7 0
 You know what it costs per month? Please tell me.
  • 20 0
 This.
They have something like 50 bazzillion users and 38 paid subscribers. Pretty clear indication that it is ludicrously expensive for what you get. Put the price down to something fair like $1 per month and they'd bring in more money and have a happier user base. By all means have a tiered price structure to unlock more complex features but there is no way I am paying more than $2 a month as a casual user who doesn't use all the heart rate monitor shite etc..
  • 1 0
 @G-Sport: Yet I find it to be great value. Also dirt cheap compared to what most folk spend on bike related stuff.
By your comments, Strava isn't even aimed at you.
  • 2 0
 @imajez: Quite possibly it isn't aimed at me. But maybe it should be? They have been up and running for a good few years now and quite possibly have already got everyone who IS prepared to pay the current price but (possibly) that isn't enough income (and I very much doubt that the current price rises will increase revenue).
So maybe they should be going the other way? Introduce a middle tier with more functionality than the free version but less than the "elite" version that "elite athletes" like yourself appreciate.
If you are getting zero monetisation of 95% of your users it would seem to me that (possibly) you are doing something wrong...
  • 1 0
 @G-Sport: Strava tried middle ground subscriptions few years back. They moved away from that. Probably because the issue with monetisation is that folk expect everything online to be free. So most folk are not willing to pay to use a service that costs the providers a lot of money to provide. Regardless of how good the product is.
  • 52 7
 A great app for blowing up the secret loamers
  • 26 3
 what do you mean? Don't record then if it is "secret"
  • 13 2
 @valrock: Or set the activity visibility to "nobody"...
  • 13 10
 @boozed: still shows on the annual Strava global heat map.
  • 18 0
 @usedbikestuff: I believe there is a way to turn that off…
  • 20 22
 Loam (/lōm/): a soil with roughly equal proportions of sand, silt, and clay.
  • 14 0
 @usedbikestuff: you can opt out of contributing to heatmap but one look at all the common "secret" spots in BC and it's obvious most do not.
  • 20 1
 @TEAM-ROBOT: Colloquial (/kəˈlōkwēəl/) : used in ordinary or familiar conversation; not formal or literary
  • 5 0
 @usedbikestuff: Says here that private activities don't go into aggregated data including the heatmap.
support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/360015677851-Aggregated-Data-Usage-Privacy-Controls
  • 2 0
 @usedbikestuff: Trailforks does the same thing.
  • 3 7
flag porkchopsandwich (Feb 14, 2023 at 8:20) (Below Threshold)
 @valrock: Tell that to all the Strava*sholes..... So many kooks around here that are addicted to KOMs and all that BS. They need to record for their stats.
  • 3 1
 @porkchopsandwich: I told that to your mom... best I can do for you. You are welcome Big Grin
  • 3 0
 @mdg3d: Trailforks excludes designated trails/zones (via polygon maps) from the heatmap/recent activity etc. The problem is when no one is admining an area with sensitive trails then everything shows up. For BC as an example, all the "secret"/contentious areas are hidden on TF.
  • 39 3
 New CEO….here’s an idea….cross populate the MTB riding segments for the eBike activities. Almost all eBikers I know don’t designate their activity as “EBike” bc the existing trail segments don’t register. Make it happen and normal riders won’t have to worry about e-bikes stealing times bc the leaderboards will be separated but everyone will see the same segment.
Just fyi
  • 24 21
 Strava has automated e-bike detection and will prompt you if it thinks you're riding an ebike to switch. I found out when I took my (unpowered) gravel bike to the climbing sections of a local mtb trail system. Every time I got home and uploaded it said "It looks like you're riding an e-bike, click here to confirm".
  • 188 1
 @Mtmw: Nice humblebrag.
  • 3 1
 @Mtmw: you're not the only one that's happened to.
  • 27 2
 @Mtmw: It also catches my dirt bike rides. They upload automatically as a normal bike ride because that's the closest activity type my watch supports -- then I change them to e-bike rides. Taste of their own medicine!
  • 2 0
 @ryetoast: braap
  • 6 2
 @Mtmw: it does that to me on my mountain bike. Because I'm so fast
  • 1 0
 @Mtmw: that's why I founf mtb crew riding super slow uphill.. so then can beat times into the long downhills with some punchy climbs im it...
  • 11 0
 Just ride ya bike
  • 14 0
 @lifeofloon: same thing happened to me. Showed up at the trail with my downhill rig and the flu. My tires were flat and I forgot to lube my chain. Finished my ride (felt terrible) and had taken the kom and was asked to confirm I was on an ebike. Nope just awesome.
  • 14 0
 I'd love to see some functionality to up/downvote segments and to nest small-segments underneath an actual trail. There are just too many stupid segments and names - "just the gnar," "just the climb," "f*ck Ke$ha," etc. Using Strava to build a route in a new spot is still so confusing because of all the garbage trail names. For the subscription cost, this should be core functionality.
  • 4 0
 @Mtmw: I'm so fast it does this to me when I upload roller workouts... wild
  • 2 0
 @ryetoast: Nice way to pimpslap the "you're just sad you can't afford ebike" crowd.
  • 12 0
 @gnarlysipes: Happened to me this. When I got home it said it looked like I had been walking and did I want to switch from cycling.
  • 3 0
 @bearstearns: yeah you're spot on with this one, the shitty overlapping segments and lack of actual trail names, etc needs to change. Segments that get downvoted beyond some threshold should be muted or switched to private or something.

It's still the only place where I can easily bookkeep all my runs, ski tours, trainer workouts, outdoor rides, etc. But unless you really care about the leaderboard there's basically nothing that exciting in the paid tier.
  • 2 0
 @rcrocha: crazy thing is, I wasn't close to kom times and they were well within my average times there.
  • 2 0
 @Mtmw: something very similar happened to me one time. Went on a ride, took so long to finish my watch ran out of battery. Will never know for sure but probably no KOM that day
  • 37 1
 I've moved on from regular strava to an eStrava. It allows me to keep straving longer and have more fun then using my regular strava. My eStrava uses headset routed cables to plug into my bike battery.
  • 34 1
 Now, if the new CEO would just make sure that uplifts are auto-recognized and elevation gain subtracted, that'd be grand.
(The mostly ignored) Strava community hub thread on this: communityhub.strava.com/t5/ideas/exclude-distance-and-elevation-from-lifts-shuttles-in-activities/idi-p/884
  • 5 0
 A very good point. As they're good at identifying the segments you ride/run on then you'd think they could also identify ski lifts without too much effort Smile
  • 5 0
 This is the comment I was looking for, it's the most obvious missing feature right now for MTB in my opinion.
  • 3 0
 Right, that's important. I've recorded Whistler rides, screenshoted & deleted. I want to know my times downhill but don't want to record a 6,000m elev gain ride either.
  • 3 0
 They have skiing semi-figured out but can't do DH biking? I have edited DH days and removed lift rides one by one, such a PITA.
  • 4 0
 As a closet roadie - don't tell anyone - tracking elevation gain is an important part of seeng where you're at in your prep for an event. Because Strava is this dumb I can't record some of my funnest rides of the year - park riding - without rendering the elevation gained stat as nonsense. Which is pretty shitty
  • 32 1
 Strava has a lot of good uses, but when they dumped some key features and refused to refund users who paid for them, that was the beginning of the end. In my case, I was refused a refund even though I was just asking for a partial refund of the annual fee. I escalated the issue and their customer service manager said they would rather loose me as a customer for life than refund me the $10 or so that was the prorated amount.

And that's what they've done. I'll never pay them another dime until they show they're not just corporate thugs trying to profit off of the active community.

If they treat their paying customers like trash, they're not the type of people I'll do business with.
  • 3 0
 If only I could do this with petrol . . .
  • 4 0
 I'm often confused by a business's short-sighted policies - losing a customer over TEN dollars. If they resolved, you'd likely be singing their praises and offering them free marketing by tellings friends and fam. But now the opposite will be true.
  • 26 0
 Strava has hidden so many of its worthwhile features behind the premium subscription. But they’re not so good that they’re worth paying $80 a year, so I guess I’m out.
  • 4 1
 I'm currently in a free trial and there's not much behind the paywall that seems terribly useful, unless you're an athlete.

Or rather, what have I missed?
  • 18 0
 @boozed: I like seeing where I’m at in relation to my friends. The rankings get hidden once you’re in the free version.
  • 12 0
 @blinglespeed: That's the one feature I missed when they took it away from free users, and then I realised I didn't miss it much!
  • 1 1
 Leaderboards.
  • 5 0
 @boozed: terrific route planning
  • 4 3
 @boozed: if your "not an athlete" what's the value of strava? For non athletic reasons its about as useful as taking notes on how long you were ate the grocery store.
  • 2 1
 @tacklingdummy: are leaderboards not a total joke where you live lol?
  • 1 0
 Relative effort was the only premium feature I used religiously, but I'm not paying $80 a year for one number. I'll just look at calories and elevation instead.
  • 3 0
 @boozed: If you're an "athlete", there are far better programs than Strava.
  • 3 0
 @gravitybass: They are not perfect, but they are fun and motivator. You can compete every time you ride even if riding solo or just coast if you do not choose to push it. Your choice.

Relative effort is more of joke to me. You always know what your effort level was. You may not perform your best, but you always know how much effort you put in. It is like the new fitness trackers that try to tell you what your stress levels are or how well you slept. People really need to have something tell them that because they don't know? Lol.
  • 1 0
 @xTwoSnakesx: Thanks I'll have to give it another look

@RonSauce: I originally signed up so I could track ride time to schedule my suspension servicing! Now I like to see how my performance changes over time, but I still wouldn't describe myself as an athlete.
  • 21 0
 Their price rollout was a monumental f-you to current subscribers.
  • 3 1
 Shoot, I didn't know that until now. I'm a little annoyed now, but Strava is still a good app.
  • 16 0
 Interesting to see him resigning after all the issues with pricing recently. They will likely be under scrutiny from the EU over charging users of different countries within the EU for the same service - a practice that is illegal in the EU. And let’s not forget them attempting to raise the subscription price for current premium members without telling them. Wonder how many premium members have cancelled because of it?
  • 2 8
flag gooral (Feb 14, 2023 at 0:55) (Below Threshold)
 I do not think you are correct. Do you think people in rich country like Germany pay for Netflix same as people in Poland? They do not.
  • 17 0
 @gooral: Netflix is not "the same service" in all EU countries. The platform is the same but the content varies whether by law or licensing or whatever. Strava is exactly the same service everywhere.
  • 6 0
 @gooral: Lol. It's very close, but actually more expensive in Poland at the current EUR-PLN rate. 7.99 EUR (basic plan in DE) is 38 PLN. The price in Poland is 43 PLN.

Bottom line is, barring currency fluctuations Germans and Poles pay more or less the same.
  • 6 0
 @gooral: For some back ground:

www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/01/strava-raises-prices-doubling.html

www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/01/strava-responds-pricing-country.html

www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/02/strava-ceo-michael-horvath-resigns-company.html

The third one talks about how Strava is trying to get around the EU laws by giving 33% off to those who lodge a ticket of complaint.

The Netflix comparison does not work here as @iammarkstewart has already alluded to.
  • 29 9
 JUST GO RIDE YOUR DAMN BIKE BITCHES!
  • 2 0
 A bit brusque, but still upvote worthy.
  • 4 0
 Kudos
  • 15 1
 That's funny...I've resigned myself never to use Strava a long time ago.....
  • 15 0
 If trailforks was better we could ditch it
  • 2 0
 "If trailforks was better we could ditch it"

Shots Fired.
  • 3 0
 Recording and uploading on trailforks is super iffy. Maps/trails/routes on Strava are bogus.
  • 24 10
 E-bikers stealing KOMs.
  • 20 29
flag kilokilo3 (Feb 13, 2023 at 17:21) (Below Threshold)
 buy an ebike. steal it back Smile
  • 43 2
 Skip both and buy your dignity back
  • 10 0
 @VtVolk: Skip it all and just ride
  • 2 0
 @kilokilo3: Do you realize WTF you are starting here!
  • 10 1
 @kilokilo3: buy a 125 an keep that KOM FOR EVER
  • 1 0
 @VtVolk: NICE
  • 5 0
 @naptime: till I get 250
  • 8 0
 @briain: pretty tight trees round ere! 125 would be better. But, you can allways just straight line all the trails like most strava XC nuts an mobilitE bikers....... :'D
  • 3 1
 You care about climbing KOM's? No way they're stealing them on down hill segments.
  • 5 0
 Couple fast guys in my area put their regular bike rides as Ebikes so the edweebs can't get the downhill koms. I met some guys super serious about trying to hit every trail and Kom the dh sections. They got so upset lol.
  • 3 0
 @naptime: Local endurobro has been straight lining all the DH's.
  • 1 1
 is hilarious
  • 8 0
 Add a feature which allows users to differentiate between seasons for the same segment. For those of us who fat bike, on groomed snow, on some of the same trails we ride in summer this would be a cool feature. There's no point in having winter unless we can know who the weekly Kings and Queens of the local Fat Bike Strava League are.
  • 22 12
 Strava destroyed more trail systems in our area... Great for roadies. Not so great for MTB.
  • 5 9
flag kilokilo3 (Feb 13, 2023 at 17:19) (Below Threshold)
 how did strava destroy a trail system? more riders -> more dmg?
(I see 2-3 times more riders in my area since covid and not 2-3 times more impact for the trails. Some spots need more maintenance and that's it)
  • 28 1
 @kilokilo3: Probably mainly by people cutting corners to get a teeny weeny bit of time savings. Racer lines everywhere. More people riding "on the clock" than for fun these days.
  • 29 0
 @kilokilo3: trying to get KOM's on multi use trails causing negative contact with hikers. Posting segments on non sanctioned trails exposing them to everyone. Heatmaps of trails. Flybys of trails. GPS maps of trails. It's been bad for both legal and illegal systems. Not 100% the fault of Strava. MTB types are also entitled aholes who don't care about things and don't take accountability for anything. Then they complain when good trails go away.
  • 5 2
 @SoftSoilSampler: I can tell you that all this did and will happen without Strava too.
You know, people find ways to know even without social media.
  • 8 1
 @cxfahrer: no. Strava lines didnt really happen like this before strava.
  • 7 0
 @SoftSoilSampler: Or negative contact with other bikers. Can't count the number of times I've seen some dude trying to set a KOM runs some kid off the trail who is just trying to get better and session. I can tell when these guys aren't slowing down and just want to ram past you by their hub sound, but kids just starting out aren't as in tune to that and usually get surprised and run off the trail. Just sets a bad example for those newer to the sport who are just trying to get better.
  • 3 0
 As much as I would love to hate Strava for "Strava lines", I routinely see my local trails getting new bypasses and such, but then look at the leaderboards and don't see the traffic to account for the wear.

People are just lazy, and take the easy way.

Seen multiple tech lines in my area that are WAY slower than the normal line, just optional extras, getting dumbed down so that more people can ride them. People removing a rock because they had to time their pedal strokes, now they pedal straight through, etc.
  • 13 3
 Give me my data. It’s my data and I want it now.
  • 8 0
 It’s easy to export your data. You know that, right?
  • 14 3
 #f*ckstrava
  • 10 2
 Imagine being the CEO for the app that causes the most trail cutting and absolute douchebaggery in the woods.
  • 8 0
 Good. I canceled my membership when the app was pushing political notifications.
  • 2 0
 Same here. Haven’t missed it.
  • 1 1
 Good! Wouldnt känna get my feefees hurt enda my tum tum upset by leftist snowflakes!
  • 7 0
 ....new acquisition opportunity for Outside....?
(as I quickly crawl back under my rock)
  • 4 0
 They did a nice price breakdown. Not only is the amount different in different countries, it's also a pretty serious spread in relation to earnings. For example, in the U.S., Great Britain or Germany you pay 60 or even 99 earning 3000. And, for example, in such Poland you have to pay more than 260 with 3000 earnings. Cool right? Where 100 and where 260. these fees are a big exaggeration typical of greedy (hamish) corporations
I understand the sense of subscription fees but this is an overkill, even though I paid with great pain. In the basic version of strava is nothing more than a slightly more elaborate counter. Maybe 3 levels of basic, intermediate and pro would be better?
  • 2 0
 There were "modules", you could pay for just what's interesting to you, priced around 15eur/y per module. They ditched that a couple years ago, and since then I haven't paid a cent to Strava.
  • 5 0
 Last month on the job to do list :

Openly letting people know in advance their subscription cost is going up significantly - ______
Openly letting people know in advance they are looking for a new CEO - check
  • 4 0
 I used to subscribe solely for the beacon function. It was very helpful when I was sometimes out in the mountains alone making extremely questionable decisions. Once I got a garmin though, I canceled, and their decision to make it so I can't even see my friends times on things has all but made the app useless.
  • 2 0
 making "extremely questionable decisions" in the mountains calls for InReach, not a glorified social network app
  • 1 0
 @f00bar: Yeah, had you read the rest of what I wrote, is exactly what I got. Thanks for your concern though.
  • 5 0
 I miss being able to compare for free my times vs. myself and the people I rode with. Well I guess it doesn't matter anymore since a lot of them ride ebikes now and I don't get anymore invites.
  • 3 0
 Not that anyone at Strava gives an F but 1) how about at least a tad of interaction w/ your paying customers - the non-payers are jamming up the stats w/ car rides, cheats, and endless BS that Strava then uses to market the platform which then F's the actual subscribers vs. the freeloaders and 2) MAKE A TOP 10 tab. Most of us will never get a K/QOM but its not that outta reach to get a Top 10 - but where is Strava on this? TOTALLY ASLEEP.

Meanwhile - participation trophies galore in the form of "Local Legends" tab which - aside from being completely worthless - who really gives a shit about? Its filler. Strava is constantly adding wacky peripheral features that most of us will never use but then lacks a useful core list - the Top 10 tab. What a bummer. Strava - you are the local legend for sure.
  • 2 0
 Do you mean a filter that will show you on which segments you are top 10 on?
  • 1 0
 @JonnyTheWeasel: Yep - currently ya just have to save that segment & check it. No reason this simple feature couldn't be added - local legends exists and its competely useless so I dunno why a T-10 tab / filter can't exist...
  • 5 0
 Strava we will relevant again when 250hm/h top speed glitches will stop giving KOMs to riders
  • 2 0
 I was leading a guy using strava, after a ride he was talking about how crazy fast we were riding, then showed me we were hitting 60+mph in a couple spots...one was a climb.
  • 2 0
 I wish I could just pay for leaderboards.... I'd pay $5 a month for that, companies need to make money. Hell I'd pay full price for it if they dropped the stupid A.I. training stuff. I don't need an app making me feel bad for taking a rest day when I need it, or doing a low HR exercises instead of pushing hard every say. (both of which are actually beneficial to your fitness)
  • 1 0
 FWIW — Garmin Connect has been telling me to rest more ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  • 3 0
 Can we get the new CEO to stop having Strava count chairlift mileage and elevation gains? Soo annoying to see them counted and soo annoying to do a new ride for every lap in the park.
  • 4 1
 who actually uses strava now anyway. I get much more info from my garmin connect account and intervals.ica for free than strava gives.
  • 5 1
 God I hate that app and the idiots that use it to compete for koms! One of the worst things ever created for this sport.
  • 1 0
 Assuming Michael came to this conclusion on his own reflection and not the board's, I applaud him. Hardest thing in the world for a founder is to admit that his/her skillset does not lend itself well to running a company. Despite CEO and founder being two different skillsets, it's often seen as failure when you can't run a company as well as you can start a company.

Cheers, mate. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to show the jerries how much sicker I am than them. Wink
  • 3 0
 Redundant segments for e-bikes and bikes is dumb. There should just be one set of segments and results sorted onto E & Non-E. Way simpler.
  • 1 0
 Multiple phones and locations and strava just didn't work half the time. Big fly away lines or it would just stop recording. Maybe I'm an anomaly, but after a bunch of occassions where I FOR SURE got PRs only to find out the app screwed up, I just gave up. My ego can't take that kinda crap.
  • 1 0
 Strava has added so little in terms of new features/functions over the years. Like why can't we comment on segments? Also getting rid of Live Segments for any segment that is more than a .25% descent is ridiculous. It just feels like the subscription fee goes into a trash can.
  • 29 25
 Who gives a fudge. Strava twats sabotaging trails.
  • 20 11
 Platform full of cheats too
  • 10 1
 says @JonnyTheWeasel
  • 1 1
 @mi-bike: lmao
  • 7 1
 @JonnyTheWeasel: I upset the XC whippets at my local forest loops. When, in a FB page, a newb asked what's a good time to aim for. I joked " look at strava times an then, ignore the top 10 cos they cheating"....
FK it kicked off :'D
I left the convo with "Those that are moaning the most more than likely are the biggest cheaters".........
  • 1 0
 The reasons are two. One as you write, cunts can't ride and have to cut the route hard to be supposedly better. And the other is measurement error if you have a poor gps device it will cut you will come out with a shortened route and a better time.
  • 2 0
 @Guncar: It's certainly annoying when people don't self report / delete an obviously bad GPS read on a section. There are a couple of segments in the forest near where I live where if you look at time comparisons on the same section, the top 5 riders are going in completely different directions to each other and finishing in different places.
  • 4 0
 @naptime: I find it's mostly ebikers who've recorded their ride as a normal mtb ride and not an ebike ride (as well as people with bad GPS reads).
  • 4 0
 @JonnyTheWeasel: round our way they just straight line every thing........
  • 2 0
 @naptime: Yea same here too. I do find Strava useful for motivating myself to get faster on certain sections and it's nice to aim for someone's time to try and improve. I find it a good measure of my own fitness.
  • 2 0
 @JonnyTheWeasel: yeah, me too just compete against myself nowerdays.
  • 2 0
 @JonnyTheWeasel: I clearly agree. I use it myself to check myself and compare to better ones. But some people just cheat to supposedly be better
  • 2 0
 A while back I started only caring about segments that were hard to cheat. Then I found out that cheaters just learned how to cheat better.
  • 1 0
 Except you can use it to track tons of usefull stuff like annual milege / elevation - and better, w/ heatmaps OFF w/ your buds on trails no one will ever know about its awesome fun. For people always on machine-buitl / Ronald McDonald / dime-a-dozen Mega Trails everyone in the world uses - sure, nearly useless: ya just can't beat the ebike / car / app-assist silicon-implant riders but just the elevation / mileage / personal stats are killer no matter what - you don't have to make those public. KOM/T-10's (etc) is just one of many options and yeah, Strava's asleep at the wheel and its just a video game so participatiojn doesn't matter all, esp given 90% of users are freeloaders.
  • 2 1
 Anyone who downvotes me obviously doesn't build unsanctioned trails, but you sure like to ride them.
  • 29 26
 An app for bragging how fast you are on your local trails…never used it, never will
  • 17 14
 Yet you DO care about it enough to open this link and comment. Touche Wink
  • 26 2
 Touché is French for touch and comes from fencing. It’s a polite acknowledgment that someone earned a point on you. So… touché only should be used when someone burns you.
  • 19 1
 I use it almost everyday and I see minimal bragging there. I will never be able to get in any top 10, even top 100 I guess on any trail I ride.
But instead, I like to collect this data to compare me to old me, to collect small pieces so by the end of the year to be proud of consistency and progress I made.
(and Strava put the year progression behind a paywall. so sad.)
  • 5 1
 I began using it to track usage time on suspension components. As it is, I like to see where I'm improving.
  • 7 0
 You know it can be used for SO much more, right? Just like most social media, it is what you make of it.
  • 1 0
 @kilokilo3: Same. Have you seen VeloViewer? It was free for years but it has recently moved to a reasonable paid model. Worth it if you're a data geek though, lots of cool visual representations of all your Strava data.
  • 1 0
 @blinglespeed: now is the time for @bman33 to say Touché
  • 2 0
 I thought this too (and worse, was "concerned" that other riders would see shit times and judge me, that was lame) til I saw 1) mileage & elevation piling up and 2) that I was consistently placing top 1-5% on most trails for speed and speed s my favorite so then 3) I began to make weekly / monthly / yearly elevation & mileage goals which MASSIVELY improved my riding & fun...also met a ton of of cool riders I wouldn't have met on the trail (in addition to new trail friends) and that has been a massive boon to riding new spots, cool new people, etc. Strava helped me up my game significantly and sure - its a video game basically (tho Strava is still at Atari vs. modern levels) but being able to see times piling up, stats, some comparison to others - and you can see when that is cheated, esp in remote areas), it all makes for being just OK to being my absolute best and going from no stats and no baseline to having tons of data I use to push myself. That's just for me and I am not looking for recognition for any of it for anyone. I've never once heard anyone "brag" about their strava times - that's an app in yr head, not live.
  • 4 0
 Thanks for the reminder to cancel my paid account.
  • 6 2
 STRAVA SUCKS
  • 3 0
 I'd like a merge between strava and onlyfans
  • 2 0
 Wonder who the VCs plug in as the reolacement. Probably some jabroni from Apple or Nike eh
  • 2 0
 "Wonder who the VCs plug in as the replacement. Probably some jabroni from Apple or Nike eh"

Maybe Dyson vacuums has another CEO to send over, like Specialized.....
  • 2 0
 Lost most of my interest in Strava some time ago. Now only on free version and use it for tracking miles ridden/duration.
  • 1 0
 Strava needs a CEO?

It's just an online app, I'm surprised it needs much more than a few support people and a programmer.

Of course, who cars about Strava anyhow Wink
  • 1 0
 I don't think Strava needs another CEO - just make the app better and more user friendly - ie: stop putting more pay features or other features that most people don't use.
  • 2 0
 As long as its free.... DGAF
  • 3 0
 AI DONT SURF
  • 1 0
 Arrest that surfer!-Newsom. (Never forget)
  • 3 0
 What's Strava?
  • 2 0
 Strava killed the pirate trail :-( I Saw it happening...
  • 1 0
 Still trying to find an alternative to Matesraces so I can put on some fun races with my friends.
  • 1 0
 100 million *athletes

*a high percentage of IG influencers are counted as athletes.
  • 1 0
 put the downhill strava live segments back so we can race our own time DH, lawer up.
  • 2 0
 I’m out at $80.
  • 1 0
 Please add service notifications!
  • 2 0
 New CEO = dark mode?
  • 1 0
 Do "outdoor enthusiasts" include people in the gym and on their Pelotons?
  • 1 0
 Top that one @notoutsideceo
  • 1 0
 bro is going for local legend
  • 1 0
 Still miss digitalEPO.com was a blast to mess with the strava holes
  • 1 0
 Probably got busted for riding Laguna og trails....with strava on
  • 2 2
 Looking for a corporate bitch to ruin the business! Any one?
  • 2 0
 current CEO has proved to be incompetent, so it's not gonna get any worse
  • 2 2
 That feel when you get the notification your KOM has been taken Frown
  • 4 5
 @brasher: that's the feeling of being a complete nob
  • 1 0
 Who?
  • 1 0
 Dark mode for 2023?
  • 1 0
 LOL... again
  • 1 0
 Strava drama...
  • 1 1
 Where's dark mode?
  • 4 5
 Brett Farve ah mf
  • 7 9
 hey strava team: if you read this, add a moto ride type please.
  • 4 1
 In my zone, the motos use the Ebike setting, which also messes up leaderboards. Yes, please add a moto option!
  • 10 6
 it's supposed to be a sports tracker, there's no reason to add subway rides, moto rides or plane flights
  • 8 4
 @f00bar: the sports of motocross and enduro do exist.
  • 4 0
 I don't ride motorcycles often, but when I do, they're ebike rides on strava. A motor is a motor is a motor - Shakespeare
  • 2 0
 I use the "workout" setting for my motorcycle track days.

I am more sore after an hour of track time in 10 minute sprints than an XC race.
  • 1 0
 @doctorpritchett: that was part of my point, which suggests was missed by my downvotes lol.
  • 1 0
 @f00bar: data is data
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