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Video: Bike Checks - UCI Mountain Bike Enduro World Cup

Mar 23, 2023 at 9:29
by Christie Fitzpatrick  


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  • 104 4
 On one hand: BOOOOOO it's a video. On the other hand: at least it's not on autoplay!
  • 28 0
 They could take into account that some people are at work….more easier to watch pictures in between faking to work on some Excel spreadsheet
  • 4 0
 They also can add 10 sec adv with sound 10x higher then video itself.
  • 37 0
 No pinkbike fantasy this year?
  • 58 0
 I wonder how much it costs PB to run the fantasy leagues? Like, I don't really care about the prizes that I'm not winning anyways. I just like it as a way to stay engaged with a race format that's otherwise fairly difficult to follow closely (since there isn't a live broadcast to speak of). If companies don't want to step up and sponsor it, so be it.

I propose that PB runs the fantasy league, and the only prize is that the winner gets a secret code that allows them to view PB without any autoplay videos. And the losers all promise to click through on at least 3 ads to generate enough revenue for PB to cover the cost of running the league.
  • 6 0
 @brianpark. Is there or is there not going to be fantasy? It appears no but it would be nice to know for sure.
  • 7 0
 There's an outside chance your fantasy will come true this year. The entire industry seems to have blown it's wad delivering other dreams. Thoughts and prayers.
  • 1 0
 Yeah they figured out it would take them at least half a year to announce each round's winners like with the advent calendar so it was not worth it.
  • 1 0
 This - Let's See that Fantasy League ASAP on AutoPlay!
  • 4 1
 @pisgahgnar: no enduro fantasy league this year. We’ve got some work to do on our end.
  • 3 0
 @brianpark: disappointing, but thanks for the response.
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: Hire me, I'd work.
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: Please let outside incognito Robin or whatever his name is that the Pinkbike Fantasy Leagues are well worth the effort!
  • 28 0
 Sigh, Jesse no longer on a Rocky Frown . Nothing against Canyon it was just really nice to have a top level Canadian rider on an awesome Canadian brand
  • 7 1
 Johnny Helly...
  • 9 1
 I feel that rocky are on a decline. especially based on JM's comments about their racing etc.
  • 11 0
 Rhys on Forbidden… 6th last year ain’t bad.
  • 1 0
 @NZracer91: can you elaborate? They separated on good terms. I just assume canyon can pay Jesse way more money
  • 1 0
 @Dillonmennie: Jesse said he wanted to move to a brand that felt like they actually care about racing, a few other comments youd have to go back to an find as cant remember
  • 29 1
 Anybody else chuckle at Carlson not being able to help himself but to talk like he's hosting this thing?
  • 19 0
 Look, not a single headset cable routing in the bunch...
  • 18 3
 First the pros down size. Now they even choose trail bikes (Jesse on a Spectral)instead of enduro bikes. Has it gone to far with enduro bikes?
  • 18 0
 Starting to hear some of the lighter riders going back to the 36/Lyrik for a little more flex/compliance instead of just pushing the "bigger is better" narrative.
  • 3 0
 @ZSchnei: I held off on buying an Enduro bike with a zeb, seems like the rush of 38 stanchions was slowing down. On 35 forks which is probably better for my weight anyway
  • 8 0
 My guess is because of the extra long sizing on the Canyon Strive. The size small Strive has a reach of 450-460 mm and the small Spectral's reach is 431mm
  • 4 4
 @ZSchnei: 37mm is the magic number. Even less for lighter riders.

Last time they did pro enduro bike checks, the average preferred stanchion was 37.1mm
  • 18 0
 Ah yes. His 160mm trail bike
  • 8 0
 37.99 by sram
  • 3 0
 @wburnes: So,Manitou was right all along.
  • 3 0
 Jesse said hes on the spectral for fit, assuming the strive is to big. Enduro bikes are ment to be designed as race bikes so its weird they make them so big when if your racing thats not what you want
  • 2 0
 Most people don’t use enduro bikes like pro on EWS, they pedal a lot, even in stages, and don’t really care about long term issues on their bikes
  • 11 0
 @NZracer91: Enduro (and all) bikes are designed to sell. The racing is just part of their advertising program. Bike manufacturers are there to make $$. If they win races, it's just better advertising.
  • 5 0
 @iLuveKetchup: but the anti-marketing of "i use a smaller bike because it fits me" by the pros is counter to the sales pitch.

like the canyon group, all but one on the spectral... thats anti advertising for the strive.
  • 1 1
 Enduro bikes aren't too extreme, it just depends on the course. If there are long sustained downhill sections l, then you need an enduro bike with nearly DH bike capabilities. If the course has short downhill, flatter section, then DH again, it can be faster to ride an agressive trail bike and go faster through the flatter bits.
  • 3 0
 I also think that "trail bike" is too broad of a category nowdays. Theres a huuuuge gap between XC and Enduro. Some newly designed "trail bikes" may as well be called enduro bikes with their 63, 64* head angles. On a course that's not crazy-steep you won't give up much descending, and you'll gain a lot in pedaling efficiency on some of these new school "trail bikes."
  • 3 1
 Spectral isnt trail bike. Its Enduro. There is 160mm of travel. Old Strive has 150mm
  • 1 0
 He is on the spectral only I'm Tasmania. Will be using the strive the rest of the season
  • 1 4
 @Guncar: its in that "all-mountain" catagory, enduro is "normally" 160+ rear.
spectral has 150. JM is using a longer shock to get 160.
  • 3 0
 @ashmtb85: he said to me on instagram he is using the spectral untill a smaller strive is available...
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 @nozes: Yes.

 Men and women averages:
Headangle: 64.3
Reach: 458
Stem: 40
Chainstay: 435
Rotors: 205
Stanchions: 37.1
Coil: 6
Air: 7

Women averages:
Headangle: 64.4166
Reach: 445.416
Stem: 37.0714
Chainstay: 435.2
Rotors: 202.2857
Stanchions: 36.6
Coil: 3
Air: 3

Men averages:
Headangle: 64.238
Reach: 468.5
Stem: 43.05
Chainstay: 434.0714
Rotors: 206.5
Stanchions: 37.5
Coil: 3
Air: 4

www.pinkbike.com/news/what-geometry-numbers-pro-enduro-racers-prefer.html
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 @NZracer91: if that's the case he could just overfork and run a longer stroke shock in the spectral.
  • 1 0
 @ashmtb85: hes got a longer shock on, but only 160mm fork i believe.
  • 1 0
 Would you consider the bike he won on last year a trail bike ?
  • 1 1
 @wburnes: This only shows the average of what's being run, not the "preferred" stanchion diameter or "best" stanchion diameter. Stanchion diameter in itself is also not the only variable that goes into designing the proper fork, e.g. the 35mm stanchions of the Pike and Lyrik are housed by different chassis in different weight categories and stiffness categories.
  • 1 1
 @ZSchnei: No, it literally says preferred.

I even excluded from the numbers anyone who did not have a stated preference or claimed to not have experience with other products/geo numbers
  • 1 1
 @wburnes: "Preferred", in this case, was based on averages for already existing products (35/36mm stanchions and 38mm stanchions) and bike setup, not on product engineering or testing. It's obvious that the average is going to be around 37mm by simply looking at the mere 3 stanchions sizes being evaluated and doing math in my head, I don't even need a calculator.

"Prefered" is also far different from "best". Therefore, 37.1 is not the magic number, not until we have definitive evidence that this has been studied and tested against the existing stanchion sizes.
  • 1 1
 @ZSchnei: You are being pedantic and you're wrong lmao
  • 1 1
 @ZSchnei: midwit comment honestly just awful
  • 1 1
 @wburnes: I'm far from pendantic, and I'm definitely not wrong. I'm annoyed by your poor communication and use of "averages" to claim that the perfect stanchion size has already been determined -- it hasn't.

I also get annoyed when people try to spread misinformation because they didn't take the time to do their own research, or in this case, take the time to enunciate their thoughts in a clear manner.

Back to the "data" you shared. If the same polling was done at a race where athlets only used 35 & 36 mm stanchions do you still think the preferred stanchion would be 37.1?

Your logic is flawed and now your replies are formed off emotions rather than rational thinking.
  • 12 0
 The new GT logo looks dreadful. So much personality taken out of it, to be replaced by a boring sans serif font like most brands now. Same with Ibis Frown
  • 2 0
 The ferrari red paint is pretty cool though
  • 1 0
 @Austink: It does, with the old logo in yellow it would look sweeeeeet
  • 1 0
 Don´t know what they´re gunning for. On the Jersey it´s the old logo, so it maybe a one off, thing, like maybe a tribute to an old Logo we´re not aware off. Maybe it`s supposed to be a resemblece to the fact that something changed (indepentend company wihtin pon-holding) without any real change. I don't know, it´s somehow weird. Also it´s to small a logo for the downtube.
  • 1 0
 @Davebob Came here to write just this. I get throwback themes, but this one doesn't say anything.

@styriabeef What does that ”independent within a corporation” thing even mean???
  • 10 0
 Graphic design for this new next level maximum more experience Discovery World Cup series looks like it was designed in model year 2000.
  • 11 2
 Could you report on how there’s no live coverage of this weekends event? Instagram doesn’t count…
  • 14 1
 There has never been live coverage of enduro events, they tried past year with the Pro-Stage, something similar to DH coverage but it sucked. So these videos plus the video after the race is all we got.
  • 8 0
 @elyari: Look at motorcycle World Enduro events; they have no lIve coverage - it's all highlights on You Tube, and the Hard Enduro really only have Erzberg live.....and they're both bigger sports than EWS.
It's just too expensive to cover events live, rallying only went live a few years ago.
  • 2 5
 @Starch-Anton: this sport, this huge industry and fans deserve live events... Actually if you're not live you're not a true TV show...
Enduro missed the opportunity to race over days... Training in the morning racing in the afternoon... This way you will engage the audience...
Now there's a full stack of pro riders... You have them there for a week at least doing few...
If enduro work cup is no longer for amateurs f*cking bring a professional formar and not racing just on Sundays... That's hilarious...
  • 4 0
 @PauRexs: It's a bicycle race,not a fcking TV show.
As @Starch-Anton mentioned,motorcycle enduro hasn't live coverage,and it's way bigger than mtb enduro.
GCN has a new channel dedicated to racing and will be putting out quick highlights after the race and the usual report of the race after 2 or 3 days.

And that is OK with me.
  • 2 0
 Would be nice to get a dedicated tab or page on PB that has links to the videos for each of the races all in one place - would make it easier to follow than a separate post each one.
  • 2 0
 Pretty hard to get live coverage that would be worth watching. The runs are long and mostly through dense forest - there are few places where getting good drone footage would be practical. You would need a ton of cameras on each course to capture more than just 5-second snippets of each rider coming past, and moving them between stages with enough time to get set up would be difficult.

On the plus side for me, it's only an hour's drive to go watch in person Smile
  • 3 0
 @PauRexs: this is a tiny industry in the overall scheme of things
  • 7 0
 Those custom finger protectors on Charlie Murry's bike were pretty cool although if they hook onto something, that could suck.
  • 5 0
 They are called counterpunch. You can get them with grips too. I think the custom bit for Charlie is getting them to work with the grips he prefers to ride.

www.loamlab.bike/products/counterpunch
  • 2 0
 They should make them breakaway. That would be perfect.
  • 2 0
 I highly recommend the counterpunch. Been running them for a couple of months and they have protected me from rocks and cactus. They never get caught on anything except they kinda dig into wet ground if your bike hits the dirt.
  • 2 0
 The idea behind counterpunch relies on you holding your grips at their outer ends, so ideally they wouldn't hook anything. Another cool bit about 'em is a lot of people claim a bit more control using them.
  • 7 0
 Should do a review of the WeAreOne bike Johnny Helly is riding in the U21 category - it's looking pimped!
  • 6 0
 No mention of what appears to be a redesigned the RockShox Vivid rear shock?
  • 2 0
 I was wondering about that as well...
  • 2 1
 There was a leak article on it a few weeks ago, but no details
  • 1 0
 I reckon that new Vivid must be so far from production they don't want to stir up a big deal about it.
  • 1 0
 You guys clearly dont follow Jack Moir. He has been riding it for some time now and not even hiding it. You can se some pretty close up shots on his videos.
  • 4 0
 So stoked to see it all kicking off again. Is Florian nicholai on a fulger like that bike too?
  • 4 0
 I’m curious about that RS vivid air
  • 2 0
 Thinking about downsizing my fork but I want to keep 170mm travel...anyone know if the '23 Lyrik can be retrofitted with a 170mm airspring?
  • 4 0
 Nope, as far as I know their is no 170mm option for the '23 Lyrik
  • 1 0
 *there
  • 3 0
 Jesse running DHR 2 in a 29x2.5….as far as I know per Maxxis website that size not available
  • 2 0
 I was ask that same question few days ago. Some guy reply me that it is PRO specific size.
  • 1 0
 @Brdjanin: That is correct.
  • 3 0
 No new ibis been shown yet
  • 1 0
 Somebody at Ibis isn’t doing their job!
  • 3 1
 Katy runs her brakes "euro?" Seems like American style to me from the looks of it. front/left, rear/right
  • 7 0
 Euro and American is the same. Possibly just those ex-colonies running front/right.
  • 2 0
 @ChazzMichaelMichaels: In my experience, it correlates with which side of the street you ride on
  • 2 0
 Katy is Scottish and the thing you're thinking of as Euro is a UK/Commonwealth thing for the most part. Most of Europe runs their brakes just like you do.

I'm used to it being referred to as "moto style" but I guess in the UK they call it Euro.
  • 1 0
 @BrambleLee: in the US, moto style means right hand controls the front brake
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: just curious, why do they set up push bikes the opposite way to moto in the US?
  • 2 0
 @karatechris: I can only speculate that it’s a vestige from when you used hand signals on motos.

If you drive on the right hand side, your left hand is most visible to traffic on both sides of the road. So the throttle is on the right, clutch is on the left, since you can’t take your had off the gas to signal.

Similarly with your push bike, the front brake is (perceived to be) the more dangerous brake, if you’re signaling with your left the right hand “should” control the rear.

I set up all of my curly bar bikes moto, but leave the flat bar bikes normal American/Euro style. Moto on the curly-boiz comes from an old wrist injury where I felt I really needed my stronger hand controlling the more powerful brake in emergency situations.

Hydraulics brakes on flat bars are ergonomically different enough that 1) I can stop plenty fast with my left hand on the front and 2) I don’t ever confuse the two set ups.
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: I rode moto for almost 20 years before starting MTB and I also never had an issue going back and forth between mx and mtb. I think the dominant hand thing has something to it. I know some moto guys try to swap it so the front brake is on the same side but it's truly been a non-issue for me
  • 2 0
 @pmhobson: Right right right, I said that totally wrong. Was trying to explain it to the other dude who seemed confused by it, and got totally tripped up and muddied the waters even further. Thanks for calling it out.

Most riders where Katy is from run their brakes moto style with the front brake controlled by the right hand. Most north americans and europeans run their brakes with the front brake lever on the left. Katy talking about euro style is saying that she does NOT run her brakes moto, which is unusual for where she's from. Euro is the opposite of moto.
  • 3 0
 @BrambleLee: Ah! Thank you. So Euro/American are the same. UK-style and moto style are the same. Correct?
  • 2 0
 @ksilvey10: Yup, that’s exactly right!
  • 1 0
 I'd like to know what bottle cages they're running, in the market for a really side side loader that can be extra mounted low
  • 3 0
 What's up with Morgane Chare's seat angle?
  • 1 0
 She would definitely be breaking some UCI Road saddle angle rules
  • 2 0
 Depends on how a person is riding. Enduro is mostly pedaling up significant inclines, then descending nearly flat-out. Not much flat terrain. As such, if the rider is seated, the terrain plus suspension sag is tilting the bike many degrees rearward, on average, and almost all descending is done standing. Her saddle angle looks weird on flat ground, but it makes sense when you consider the average tilt when she's sitting.
  • 1 0
 Does anyone know what fork travel and flip-switch position Charlie Murray is running on the Enduro. I’ve heard 180 fork but not sure and curious if high or low.
  • 1 0
 Can we talk about the calipers on Moir's YT? Secret sauce or am I missing something? Looks like new code levers with a proto caliper.
  • 1 0
 I'm curious as to why Jesse Melamed is running his seatpost reverse. Is there a benefit of doing this that us mere mortals can take advantage of?
  • 2 0
 160mm in the rear at Jesses Spectral?
  • 2 0
 Jesse running 20 / 21psi on front and back. Huh.
  • 2 0
 tread light, charge hard!
  • 2 0
 @souknaysh: I assume he's a lighter rider? I couldn't find any info on his weight.
  • 2 0
 He's around 68kgs, crazy light
  • 1 0
 why does everything have to be a video now? where are the PHOTOS!??! FK youtube...
  • 1 0
 I love how Jesse just skips over the RS Vivid
  • 2 0
 BBOOOOOOOOO video
  • 1 0
 Not even a Pinkbike video get over it people
  • 1 0
 "Warner Bros. Discovery" Lol...will I be able to watch on HBO Max?
  • 1 0
 i like to look at pretty pictures...........meh
  • 1 0
 GT really missed with their new logo
  • 1 0
 Does anybody know anything about this Fulgur bike brand ?
  • 1 0
 Its a catalogue frame from china, if you look up cabana fm1003 you will find more info.
  • 1 0
 add autoplay, I can't access youtube.
  • 1 0
 literally all of your content now are stupid youtube videos.
  • 2 1
 A video? Oh boy.
  • 4 3
 man that S-works...dang.
  • 2 0
 nice paint job
  • 3 6
 This is the legit question... is ZEB a new kind of mountain? Is it better then 36\38? I love how easy it seems servicing them.. is it worth buying?
  • 1 0
 idk about the 38 but it was leaps and bounds better than my 36, especially when it gets steep and chunky. It was easily the biggest upgrade I have experienced, including switching entire frames
  • 5 6
 What happened to the Advent calendar winners/prizes
  • 1 0
 It went to another Universe Timeline where Levy is God
  • 33 36
 Nobody wants this in video format, for crying out loud. PHOTOS!
  • 53 6
 Some people definitely want video, and the title of this article makes it pretty dang clear what to expect. We have bike checks on the way with photos. This video was produced by the UCI Mountain Bike World Series, and it was interesting, so we posted it up.
  • 17 1
 @mikekazimer: Nobody wants this in (format), for crying out loud. (PREFFERED FORMAT)!
  • 2 10
flag nickfranko (Mar 23, 2023 at 10:14) (Below Threshold)
 @mikekazimer: So, what ratio prefers video to photos? Because I suspect it's quite small.
  • 3 0
 @nickfranko: looks like it’s 3 : 4 based on comment votes at this point.
  • 3 3
 @mikekazimer: Millennials and Gen z want videos. speaking as one. haha
  • 12 0
 @mikekazimer: I commend your ability to be diplomatic when people click on a title that says VIDEO and then bitch about it being a video.
  • 1 0
 reks you are peak pinkbike-user mentality. bravo.







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