Cotic's Updated 125mm FlareMAX Gen4 is for 'Up, Down, Roundabout Country'

May 7, 2021 at 10:23
by cotic-bikes  
FlareMAX Gen4 UK made 125mm rear travel 120-140mm front travel. 29er wheels. Steel frame. www.cotic.co.uk


PRESS RELEASE: Cotic

Here's the full lowdown on our updated Short Travel Trail/Downcountry/Used-to-be-called-Mountain Biking bike, the FlareMAX Gen4.

The Generation 4 FlareMAX retains the 125mm and most of the geometry of it's predecessor, as we really felt we had hit a sweetspot with that in terms of combining the confidence inspiring elements of Longshot geometry, with a lively and easily cornered feel that's intrinsic to a fun bike that's going to be speeder-biked between the trees along swoopy, singletrack trails.

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FlareMAX Gen4 UK made 125mm rear travel 120-140mm front travel. 29er wheels. Steel frame. www.cotic.co.uk

FlareMAX Gen4 UK made 125mm rear travel 120-140mm front travel. 29er wheels. Steel frame. www.cotic.co.uk

FlareMAX Gen4 UK made 125mm rear travel 120-140mm front travel. 29er wheels. Steel frame. www.cotic.co.uk

What's new is the adoption of the Jeht style seat tube and linkage arrangement, which boosts seatpost insertion by 20mm and ensures that the vast majority of riders will be able to fit at least a 150mm drop seatpost to the bike. At the business end of the suspension, we have adopted Metric 210x50 shock sizing to futureproof the bike, and the actual seat angle experienced by the rider is a touch steeper than the Gen3 (around 0.5 deg depending on saddle height). Our 2021 swingarm completes the picture with easy clearance for up to 2.6" tyres.

There is now a Rockshox Select Plus shock option, alongside our long standing, super tuneable, high performance Cane Creek DB Air IL which carries our Cotic developed Base Tune ready to go.

FlareMAX

In terms of ride feel and intent, the biggest change for Gen4 is the adoption of some build kit options for riders looking for more of a scalpel than a hammer. All the builds now offer the options to specify a Rock Shox SID Ultimate 120mm fork (in iconic blue), HUNT XC Wide wheels and Wolfpack Trail/Cross 2.25" tyres. This combination of parts drops 1.65kg from the weight of a more trail orientated spec, coming in at just 12.7kg for the Gold XT build complete bike. Just how lively these parts make the bike has to be felt to be believed, yet it's not at the expense of capability. The Longshot geometry and great tyre compound give you astonishing composure in steep situations.

FlareMAX Gen4 UK made 125mm rear travel 120-140mm front travel. 29er wheels. Steel frame. www.cotic.co.uk
FlareMAX
FlareMAX Gen4 UK made 125mm rear travel 120-140mm front travel. 29er wheels. Steel frame. www.cotic.co.uk
FlareMAX Gen4 UK made 125mm rear travel 120-140mm front travel. 29er wheels. Steel frame. www.cotic.co.uk

The SID fork, XC Wide wheels and Wolfpack tyres are an option on all the builds - they're a cost upgrade on the SLX based Silver build, but no cost options on the Gold XT and Gold Eagle builds. In July there will also be a Gold Eagle AXS option using the latest wireless groupset from SRAM. These can be reserved now for delivery in July.

If you want your FlareMAX a little more all round capable, we have RockShox and Cane Creek 130mm fork options, and our more usual HUNT Trail Wide wheel/WTB 2.5 Slashguard tyre combo on the Gold Build, and Shimano/Continental on the Silver build.

FlareMAX
FlareMAX



Here's the all important numbers:

FlareMAX 140mm forks

FlareMAX 130mm forks

FlareMAX 120mm forks



Available right now are the UK made Launch Edition frames which will only be made until July. They are available in Sydney Blue and Gritstone Blue/Green Fade. Prices start at £2,099. Complete bikes start at £3,799 with SLX/HELM equipped Silver build, up to £5,249 for the Gold Eagle AXS build. As always these are just starting points and we have options for different forks, wheels, tyres and suspension throughout the range. Availability on bikes is going to be July at the earliest due to parts deliveries and availability, but frame orders can ship this week if you're quick. They are in stock now in all sizes and colours.

In August the Series Production Taiwan made frames will arrive, which will be in Hubble Purple and Matte Slate Grey. Prices start at 1,899.

Full information is over on our website: www.cotic.co.uk/product/flareMAX

We assemble all our bikes to order right here in the UK, so we can also be super flexible on builds. This is especially advantageous right now, because if a customer already has fork they can use, maybe some tyres they like, any part of the bike really, we can delete that part from a complete bike. We can then offer a lower price, and in all likelihood much quicker delivery. As always, drop us an email at info@cotic.co.uk to discuss any options. Sam and Paul will be happy to help.

We ship anywhere in the world, so click on the link below to get pricing and shipping for your country.

You can play with our configurator here: https://www.cotic.co.uk/order/framebuilder/flareMAX/



If you have any questions, drop a comment below.





100 Comments

  • 60 1
 Trying to decide between SuperXC and OverMountain.
  • 9 0
 What about XM? (Cross mountain)
  • 12 1
 How does Mini-All Mountain resonate with you?
  • 9 4
 I like "under-country" as in these genres totally undermine mountain biking
  • 25 0
 @naisemaj: all-hill
  • 2 0
 Its clearly in the "All-Mountain-Sports" Category . . .
  • 1 0
 UndrEnduro
  • 7 0
 @brianpark I think pinkbike needs to get #downgravel trending next. you know you want to.
  • 4 0
 I’m partial to the idea of Micro-duro
  • 1 0
 @naisemaj: All Foothill
  • 2 0
 @madmon: Unduro?????
  • 2 0
 @brianpark - go for the OverMountain... I heard the Super XC aren't as much fun for downhills Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Down gravel
  • 1 0
 XD. CrossDuro is the new segment we all have been wainting.
  • 1 0
 @adrennan: #downgravel if you know you know Wink
  • 1 0
 Lol-Mountain
  • 1 0
 I'm all about the Gnarcountry.
  • 3 0
 French got it right, as always on first try. Velo tout terrain All terrain bike just doesn't sound as cool
  • 1 0
 @Wheeeliemann: Yes. VTT gets my vote.
  • 2 0
 We thought about mentioning flow-jank, thrutch-core and teXC, but you can put too many labels on things.
  • 1 0
 Cross-gnar
  • 1 0
 @Blackhat: Gnarjacent
  • 22 0
 So it's all-country then?
  • 22 0
 All-trail? Not to be confused with all-mountain, of course
  • 5 0
 @ridenwc1: Trail-Country.
  • 14 0
 Can't stop here, its Bat-Country.
  • 21 0
 @ratedgg13: If I rode it, it'd be Fat-Country.
  • 12 1
 @kcy4130: From now on I’m going to refer to Emtn bikes as FC bikes.
  • 11 0
 Yea, but the "C" doesn't stand for Country.
  • 2 0
 almost-all-but-not-quite-country, more precisely
  • 14 1
 So... you could almost say Cross Country I guess?
  • 18 1
 Up, down, around... sounds like Sphere Country to me. Cross Country is so 5 minutes ago.
  • 19 0
 @Peally: Is this rideable if you're a flat-earther?
  • 1 0
 @noapathy: Certainly is - and it's particularly amazing at drop-off's, since most flat-earther's probably don't believe in gravity either....
  • 3 0
 @Corinthian: What if that drop off is THE drop off? I heard some think it's like Pac Man where you teleport to the other side of the map...do they need goggles?
  • 9 0
 lol 65 degree head angles used to be on downhill bikes 5 years ago
  • 19 0
 We really were all doing it wrong for so long. Going back to an old (but at the time great) steep head angled bike again now feels amazingly wrong. What took us so long?!?
  • 4 0
 @Spittingcat: Completely agree. The answer is because few companies were interested in the R&D or taking a risk. Only a few, small groups of people were making and testing bikes with super slack geometry - people such as team Barel, Rojo, Spagnolo et. al at Mondraker, and Hill, Shumilak, et. al at Iron Horse.

Most manufacturers would just make a release-candidate prototype with a few small changes - maybe 0.5° to 1° here and a few millmeters there. If the change was an improvement, it went to production; if it wasn't, the design reverted to the prior number.

Frustrating as this is, I can't entirely blame them. You could time-machine a 2022 trail bike into the '90s and we wouldn't have had a clue what to do with it. The geometry would've been beyond that of DH bikes, the travel would've been between nascent "freeride" and DH, the bike wheels would've been unacceptably lacking in much-valued "agility", and the 2.5" tires would've blown minds, next to so-called 2.1" tires that actually measured 1.9". Only a few, open-minded people would've bought it - and surely ranted about the superiority to anyone would would listen, while the onlookers in their neon spandex listened with a mixture of confusion and dismay.

This scenario was predicted in a documentary from 1985.
  • 11 3
 Hey Cy, what happened to 26 ain’t dead? Can we chill with the wagon wheels? Bummed you killed the Flare 27.5
  • 4 1
 THIS! currently looking for a fully trail bike an, so many bikes fit what I'm looking for but, 29 only..... Currently Banshee Spitfire V3 is winning due the 26" drops allowing me to run mini mullet
  • 3 2
 THIS+ the end of the Soul..cotic is an ended chapter for me. Happily you can buy playful steel from other brands.
  • 24 1
 It was a tough decision to pull those model lines, but ultimately not enough people bought them. Once model lines dip below 1 batch per year volume, as a small business we need to be efficient and at that point we simply can't afford to keep them in production. We still do a 27.5" wheel BFe, but even that is pretty close to the edge. If you want 27.5" wheels from small brands, you need to buy more of them.
  • 1 0
 @cotic-bikes: this is heresy to big 29" wheels industry. Please acknowledge you obey to their regulations.
  • 3 1
 move on with that, i've been running 29 for a while now; yesterday i went to pick up my brothers 26inch Giant Trance from the shop, i tried to ride it and.... it was just total disgust. My brother is getting bullied this weekend that for sure.
  • 3 2
 @Narro2: Had a 29er for 9months, OK at first but going to ride new places, bike was a chore lugging the wheels into multiple corners. Scary at times. Couldn't wait to get back to 26". I've only gone mini mullet due to fork availibility
  • 1 0
 @cotic-bikes: in this current insane market I find it hard to believe any of your models wouldn’t be selling through. But you’re right. I’m doing my part and buying a new bike every year. Bought another 27.5 this year and was hoping to get a 27.5 BFe frame this winter. Please don’t drop it. I guess I missed my chance on the flareMIN
  • 2 0
 @cotic-bikes:

Amen for telling the truth.

And thanks to the good quality framesets and proper design/geo and precise welding you will be able to buy 26/27.5 cotic frames for a long time in the buy/sell corners online. If someone is crazy enough to sell theirs. :-)

Thanks Cy for your hardtails, my 26erBfe and 29er Solaris max are the most grin inducing bikes in my shed. And they are competing with capable Banshees and YTs.
  • 11 9
 My buddy has the last-gen version of this. Its an amazing bike. With a 140mm fork, you can really rail it. Its fun to show up at the trailhead, with everyone flaunting their latest plastic bikes, and hes on this neon yellow/orange steel bike and I'm on a polished chrome titanium.
  • 10 1
 Chrome plated Ti? Seems like quite the downgrade.
  • 6 1
 @johannensc: obviously not chrome plated, but polished LIKE chrome
  • 4 0
 @hamncheez: the whole point of Ti is raw Ti
Why would you change it?!

Its like having a beautiful wooden table and covering it in Formica
  • 2 1
 @Molesdigmyjumps: This is what it is- raw Titanium thats just been polished, as in not sandblasted.

www.pinkbike.com/photo/20259784

You can't paint or coat titanium with anything- paint doesn't stick well. The only thing you can do is finish it in various ways and/or anodize it.
  • 1 0
 Right on brother. Once you understand steel, you can't go back.
  • 5 2
 @hamncheez: seems a bit of a shame to chrome plate ti
  • 1 0
 @Peskycoots: UGH its not chrome plated! Its raw titanium!!! It has a chrome-polished finish, meaning it was polished to LOOK like chrome!!
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: so much for people actually reading comments. Shoot from the hip and don’t think
  • 9 0
 @hamncheez: why'd you pay extra for the chroming?
  • 6 0
 @Lemmyschild: I hate all of you.
  • 4 0
 as if you'd cover the raw ti, that's sacrilegious
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: bawahahaha... seriously though, whats up with the ti fs? I just got a Sentinel, luckiest old man in Bend, but I been a ti whore since my Bontrager ti lite days....drop date? Specs? Prices? Dont keep me hangin'!!!!
  • 1 0
 @Lemmyschild: I need to make a pinkbike account for my company, then a press release, but I already have the order in with the manufacturer(s). None of that preorder/crowdfund crap. I'll be opening it up for orders by next week! www.instagram.com/westward_ho_bikes
  • 2 0
 @Lemmyschild: Oh, forgot the specs. Here is the sizing and geo numbers:

westwardho.bike/product/hoback150

Sorry my website sucks, which is ironic because I'm a web developer/engineer.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: I took a 20 year hiatus from mtb and now I got three bikes, Ripley, Sentinel, Vanquish but a ti full suss may be my ideal.
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: what a beaut! Where’s the order form? And how much extra to make mine chrome?
  • 2 0
 @speed10: I'm trying to get everything finalized next week.
  • 5 0
 Anyone know how steel frames handle mud? BMX frames seem to rust from looking at them the wrong way
  • 5 0
 No mud problem for me and my rocket max ! Bearings, frame, it's ok ! !
  • 8 0
 You realise we're talking about an UK bike, right?
  • 4 0
 Cotic applies rust proofing to the frames before painting. I think it's manganese phosphate (but don't quote me on it). Either way both of mine have a black coating on the inside of the tubes and no signs of rust after several years.
  • 2 0
 One of my buddies got one of the first 30 Jeht, and it is still pristine. Being classic round steel tubes, there's not many little pockets for mud and water to build up on, so it's easy to clean and dry after even the most gopping of rides.
Caveat; it has been an unseasonably dry winter & spring, barring a couple of odd weeks, but I'm sure it'll still hold up
  • 10 0
 Everything the replies above said is correct. All our frames are dip coated prior to painting, and the high strength steel we use doesn't rust as easily as cheap grades either. You can't build bikes that dissolve if you are based in the North of England !
  • 5 0
 Will this be available in the USA?
  • 4 0
 „We ship anywhere in the world...“
  • 4 0
 Yes, very much so. We can't quote prices at the moment because shipping costs are changing literally week to week, so get in touch we will get the best price for you. If you go to the order page and select "USA" in the country chooser at the bottom the pricing and shipping costs automatically update. Current dollar exchange is around 1.37
  • 5 0
 It doesn't meet the minimum requirement of 15 pieces of flair.
  • 1 0
 Just some minor changes from my gen 3. whew! I would feel bad if there would be huge improvements from the v3 I just bought this January. But still no room for a decent water bottle. hehe. Big Grin
  • 3 0
 Uk made bros buy it before it goes to Taiwan
  • 1 0
 It’s come the other way. They were partly made in the east and that came back to the UK for a few reasons.
  • 3 0
 Looks like a mountain bike.
  • 2 0
 Definitely Bro - Country without a doubt
  • 2 0
 Chick-country too? J (rider at the end of the video) is definitely female!
  • 1 0
 Downcountry, yet pictures are taken in the peak district which is hardly downcountry!
  • 5 0
 Downcountry is a state of mind maaaaaaaan
  • 1 0
 *me, a cotic executive, changing the word "trail" to up down roundabout country: nice
  • 5 0
 I love that you think we have executives at Cotic!
  • 2 1
 This bike looks Prime for any terrain!
  • 1 0
 Where is the FM (flat mountain) builds?
  • 1 0
 Gen 4 RocketMax with inboard water bottle cage please!
  • 2 2
 New SRAM AXS!! Is NX coming already?
  • 1 0
 I dig it!
  • 1 0
 Weight?
  • 3 0
 With the SID, XT, HUNT XC Wide wheels and Wolfpack tyres the large in the photos (blue bike) weighed 12.7kg/27.9lbs
  • 4 5
 looks like a polygon
  • 15 0
 Polygons look like Cotic's. We have been doing droplink this way since 2012
  • 2 0
 @cotic-bikes: I'm going to ask the unthinkable and I'm riding my gen 3 Tallboy alloy for 1 reason, looks like there's room and enough straight seat tube in there to run a front derailleur? Oh No, He Said It! I love my steel and ti bikes and could see this as a fs replacement.
  • 1 0
 @two2pedal: I'm sorry to say that there's no possiblity to run a front mech on a recent Cotic droplink bike. Since 2018 we have design the swingarm to take up all the space right up to the chainring, so they are 1x only. The older droplink bikes from 2015-2017, pre-Longshot geometry, all could run Shimano Sideswing front mechs. If you can find one, maybe a Gen1 FlareMAX would do the job for you?
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