First Ride: 2022 Canyon Spectral:ON CFR

Apr 4, 2022 at 13:37
by Dan Roberts  



With the rapid advancements in electric mobility, our little world of mountain bikes has seen a bewildering number of updates in a very short amount of time. Most of these updates center around the motor and battery systems.

It’s easy to see that a bigger battery would up the range of an eMTB and give more ride time and less range anxiety to riders. But the deficits of weight and ride feel are something that would become immediately apparent to the riders too, in a bad way.

Not content on just stuffing a bigger battery into a bike and calling it good, Canyon went back a few steps to redesign their Spectral:ON with the intention to, as they put it, have their cake and eat it. Meaning having a full power eMTB experience with a bigger battery, but without the tank-like ride characteristics that the extra weight would usually bring along.
Spectral:ON CFR & CF Details
• Wheel size: 29" F, 27.5" R
• Carbon fiber front triangle, chainstay & seatstay
• 155mm rear travel with 150mm fork (160mm possible)
• 900Wh and 720Wh battery options
• Shimano EP8 drive system
• Sizes S to XL
• 21.84kg (Spectral:ON CFR, size M, 720Wh battery)
canyon.com

Even though the Spectral:ON saw updates last year, and the silhouette of the new bike is familiar to the bike line and brand image, the new CFR and CF versions of the bike see a whole host of other changes and improvements, aside from the electric parts, that aim to make this bike a true all-rounder that can tackle anything from mellow single trails to full-on party bike park laps. That’s quite a wide scope of riding to design for, and to make their job even harder, they wanted to affix words like playful and nimble to a bike that weighs north of 20kg (44 lb).

I’ve spent the best part of six weeks poking around the new Spectral:ON in its CFR guise and, more importantly, riding the hind legs off it to see just how much better a bike with a big 900Wh battery can be, and if those claims of playful are in fact true.





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This titanium lugged, carbon tubed prototype enabled Canyon to test out their geometry and kinematic ideas, but more importantly, try out the different battery placement options to see how it affected the bike's ride feel.
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Canyon had a cut frame on show at the launch to highlight the features hiding away inside the frame, like the moulded channels for the internal cable routing.

Features & Details

The new Spectral:ON CFR and CF are a 155mm rear travel package mated to a 150mm travel fork. There’s a 29” wheel up front and a 27.5” wheel out back. The MX configuration is perhaps the most common layout for an eMTB to allow for the packaging of the motor, bridge, clearances and wheel at a decent chainstay length.

The frames are now a full carbon fiber composite affair. That move to carbon for the chainstay and seatstay is a first for Canyon in its eMTB world, and allowed them to shed a bunch of weight while also bolstering the bike’s structure to up the stiffness and strength of the frame. The old version of the bike was only tested to an ASTM Category 3 level, while the new bike is tested to a 4E level, the E denoting extended cycles for Canyon’s EMTBs and is the highest level that they are tested to.

The composite rear end boasts huge tire clearance for the stock 2.6” wide tires. Come down to a 2.4” tire and you can almost fit your whole hand in between the tire and frame. With Canyon’s focus also on upping the stiffness, it does make for a very wide rear end, with the seatstay tubes being pretty big and bulky to match the simply massive front triangle. From side on it’s not such an imposing sight, akin to some current MTBs. But from above the frame, especially the down tube, are super wide.

The CFR and the CF models use slightly different materials and layup schedule to accomplish the price targets, but share the same stiffness, durability and core frame features. A size M CFR frame weighs in at 2,880g with the CF model weighing 3,180g.

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Neat little features like the Quixle make it a doddle to take the wheel out without any tools.
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The new frame uses big section carbon fiber composite chainstays and seatstays, with absolutely buckets of tire clearance for even the fat 2.6" rubber that the bike comes specced with.

Despite being labelled as an all-rounder, Canyon knew that bikes in general are being ridden a lot harder than in days past. And that when you really go for it on an eMTB, it’s often an exponential return in the severity of the abuse that the bike takes in comparison to a lighter weight MTB.

The whole bike and its design centres around the bigger battery. At a whopping 900Wh, it alleviates much of the range anxiety from a ride but also brought about a host of challenges for the development of the bike.

Canyon looked to develop their own battery to give them more tools for designing the battery package and its placement in the frame. Something that they experimented with on their titanium lugged, carbon tubed prototype. With the 900Wh battery accounting for around 20% of the overall bike weight, its placement in the bike, both horizontally and vertically, can have an astounding effect on the way the bike rides and reacts to the ground and rider inputs.

Canyon used 2170 cells arranged widthways across the frame to give them their best balance of packaging and placement, along with rotating the Shimano EP8 motor back by 30°. It also allowed them to use the 900Wh battery on even the M size bikes. Unfortunately, due to its sheer length, the 900Wh battery can’t fit on the small size. But fear not, as the same electrical technology that went into the bigger battery is also present in the 720Wh battery option.

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The bar / stem combo on the LTD is one of the cleaner executions of a combo around.
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But why on earth is this a thing? Granted, Canyon went to the effort of sealing off the holes in the headset top cap, but the added headaches in maintenance and workshop time when something as simple as a gear cable needs changing can't be ignored.

That bigger capacity without the tank-like ride characteristics was a guiding light for Canyon. Comparing to their 2021 XTR equipped Spectral:ON, the new bike weighs in 610g lighter for the same XTR equipped spec while having a 15% bigger battery capacity. Stuffing the 900Wh battery in ups that capacity to 42% compared to the 2021 model for only 350g more on the whole bike weight.

The frame's pivots also see an increase in capacity, with bigger bearings and axles helping boost the bike's stiffness overall as well as boosting the connection stiffness between the frame parts. The pivots also use replaceable threaded parts to avoid too many in-mould aluminium parts that could become damaged and render the whole frame part useless. Torque values are helpfully printed on the hardware parts and the bolts are all easily accessible with just simple Allen keys.

All the cables are routed internally in the frame, through moulded in channels, and annoyingly through the top headset bearing in a trend that I’m now taking an official stance against. Canyon worked with internal headset mafia boss Acros to put some of their own touches on the internally routed design. The cables are at least sealed in the top cap with different plugs for the different cable routing options, which should make the honestly terrible Acros headset last a little longer before it creaks like an old barn door. Also included in the headset is a steering stop to avoid any fork to down tube collisions. But just in case, there’s a stick-on rubber protector on the downtube.

The stem, spacers and top cap all align in an “integrated” design, but do warrant the use of the lower 5mm spacer to avoid the stem crushing the cables. Further up on the LTD model, Canyon has their own bar / stem combo, which is one of the cleaner looking ones out there with the bolted-on display. Lower spec models use a more traditional separate bar and stem construction that uses the same headset and spacer parts.

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There's ample and well damped chain slap protection on both the top and bottom of the chainstay and underside of the seatstay.
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Canyon came up with a slightly different take on the bottle cage mount. Three bolts now secure the cage to the frame and keeps the bottle weight low in the frame while giving space for large bottle on smaller frame sizes.

Other nice little features on the frame include Canyon’s own 3-bolt bottle cage that uses two bolts at the bottom end to lower the bottle position and weight while keeping it really securely mounted. The Quixle is a fantastic touch inside the rear axle that’s easy to use, quiet and has ample leverage to tighten the axle without hitting the frame at every turn.

There’s a top chain guide and ample chainstay and seatstay protection in the form of soft rubber moulded protectors. There’s protection over the chainstay to mainframe pivot too with a little rubber flap helping defend the main pivot from what is certainly an entry into the crown for biggest loam shelf competition.

The 203mm post mount rear brake is a great touch, with easy room to go up to a 220mm rotor if desired.



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Multiple covers surround the Shimano EP8 motor, one of them hiding the...
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...charging port. It fits to the battery through the magnetic, self aligning Rosenberger connection.

Motor & Battery

The Spectral:ON CFR and CFs use Shimano’s EP8 motor system mated to their own batteries that are manufactured by Trendpower. The batteries are Shimano approved and are part of the Shimano Steps Service Program, warrantied by Shimano for 1-year and available to buy as a replacement. The bike is not compatible with any other batteries or range extenders and must use the included Canyon charger to charge the batteries, but you can buy a replacement charger through Canyon if needed.

The battery features a built-in charge indicator that allows you to see the progress or capacity of the battery when it’s off the bike. The bike’s on / off switch is a mechanical switch that goes through the downtube to press on the battery, removing the need for some additional wires.

On the topic of wires, the whole system only has three wires in the harness - one from the battery to the motor, one from the display to the motor and one from the speed sensor to the motor. This should help in the bike’s maintenance compared to other bikes with a spider’s web cables inside the frame.

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The skid plate comes off tool-free, via the rubber strap, and grants access to the battery.
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The battery can then be unbolted and slid out to be charged off the bike if you prefer. The two magnets on the inside of the skid plate are for keeping the battery bolts in a safe place while the battery is out.

The connection between the battery and motor uses a Rosenberger magnetic self-locating plug that is meant to allow easy access for battery removal or charging with the battery in the bike.

Battery removal is done via a hole down at the motor, which avoids a gaping big cut out in the downtube. It’s smart, as it keeps the backbone of the bike more intact and also helps to avoid the ingress of water and dirt into the frame and around the motor and battery. Taking the battery out is best done with the bike in a stand (if you’re strong) or with the bike upside down or on its side, although with the 900Wh battery’s length it needs a little lift to get it out.

Access to the battery is via the fiber reinforced skid plate that is held on with an easy-to-use rubber strap and keys into the frame with two small pegs and slots over the battery retention bolts.

The battery is held in the frame via two large steel screws. With the 900Wh battery weighing 4.75kg, and the 720Wh battery weighing 3.84kg (Shimano’s 630Wh battery weighs 3.7kg for comparison), it needs to be damn secure. Removal is easy though, and the piece de resistance of frame details are the two little magnets in the skid plate for holding onto the bolts while you take the battery out. You’re only meant to use the Canyon supplied bolts to hold the battery in, so now there’s no excuse if you lose them.

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The new bike centers around the new batteries. The new 720Wh battery, right, isn't that much heavier than the older 630Wh. But the whopping 900Wh battery, left, puts the new Spectral:ON CFR well ahead of a lot of the competition in terms of capacity.
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It's a big battery though, and takes up pretty much the whole down tube on the M size frames. S size bikes use the 720Wh battery due to their shorter down tube length.

Canyon went with Shimano’s EP8 system for its reliability, smoothness of power delivery, usability and service options and network. It also looked to standardise the range and elevation estimations. Back in 2018, Bosch and ZIV (Germany’s bicycle industry association), with cooperation from Shimano, Accell group and several other bike brands, developed a standard test for range (R200) and elevation gain (R300).

For the Spectral:ON CFR, with a total system weight of 100kg (22.2kg bike and 77.8kg rider), it covered 97.2km and climbed 2132m of elevation with the 900Wh battery. With the 720Wh battery it covered 77.7km and 1681m of elevation. Other constants for the test include 70W rider power and 200% of support from the motor (140W).

Charge times for the 900Wh battery are either 5h – 5.6h or 7.2h – 7.8h with the 6A and 4A chargers respectively. For the 720Wh battery charge times are either 4h – 4.7h or 5.8h – 6.3h.



Canyon Spectral ON CFR Geometry

Geometry & Sizing

The goal of the new Spectral:ON was to create not only an all-rounder of a bike, but also a balanced one. While it is longer, lower and slacker than the previous bike, Canyon didn’t want to jump to an extreme and sacrifice one end of the wide range of riding that they wanted the bike to cover. Yes, each change is a nip and a tuck, but in combination all these changes add up to something much bigger in the ride feel.

It’s available in four sizes from S to XL ranging from 435mm reach up to 510mm with even 25mm gaps between sizes. Up front is a 65.5° head angle that tries to strike a balance between agile and stable. Canyon do say that slacker can also be fun, but for this bike’s intentions, travel and focus on balance it made much more sense to not be at DH bike levels of slack.

Chainstays are 5mm longer, at 440mm, to try and offer more balance and traction while climbing really steep pitches of trail. They are unfortunately the same length for all frame sizes.

In the middle, the seat angle actually saw quite a big change, with the new bike being two degrees steeper and also 20mm shorter. While the steepness is very welcome, especially on a bike that can climb damn near vertical walls, the seat tube lengths are still comparatively very long. The M size, at 440mm, is closer to a lot of other brands L size frames. Something to consider along with dropper post length if your inseam is shorter. S size bikes come with a 125mm / 130mm drop post, depending on manufacturer, M has a 150mm and L and XL come with 170mm / 175mm drop posts.

Head tube lengths are generous, which do help to have riders bar heights more in a comfortable and aggressive range for descending, especially in steep terrain. But in combination with the headset and specced riser bars, can be something to look out for if your terrain is flatter or you prefer a lower bar setup on your bike.

The bottom bracket sits at 35.5mm lower than the front axle. The Spectral:ON CFR and CF are MX only bikes, with no adjustments or options for a full 29” setup. The bike comes specced with a 150mm fork, but it is possible and approved to run a 160mm fork if you fancy a bit more party up front, although it will alter the geometry.


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The Spectral:ON CFR and CF uses a four-bar suspension system with the shock mounted horizontally under the top tube. A shock extender drives the shock from the link.

Suspension

The Spectral:ON has 155mm rear travel from the 65mm stroke shock. Canyon does point out that the bike was designed to run with an air shock. Not so much due to the spring curve but mainly to do with the shock stiffness as a part of the frame. The Spectral:ON’s layout is a four-bar system that has the shock positioned horizontally under the top tube.

While this layout does separate the clearances around the shock and linkages from the ever-difficult packaging clearances of the motor, battery and electrics, it benefits greatly from driving the shock from behind the seat tube, and so needs a shock extender. This ups the magnitude of forces trying to bend the shock shaft in the body, and due to these Canyon does not advise the use of a coil shock with its smaller shaft. This might also point at keeping an eye on your shock servicing intervals to ensure that bushings, seals and stanchions remain in tip top condition from the increased loading that they see from the extender.

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Canyon clearly state that a coil shock is a no go due to the use of a shock extender.

The bike’s response to acceleration is again something that Canyon looked to balance with the amount of chain interaction. With a conventional drivetrain configuration, the anti-squat and chain pull of the bike are more closely linked, and so to reduce the amount of chain interaction with the suspension’s movement they dropped the pedal kickback figures slightly, which also sees slightly lower anti-squat percentages. But the values are still up there to also provide vital support under the increased accelerations that an eMTB sees.





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The Spectral:ON CFR LTD. How many batteries can you fit on a bike? Yes.

Options, Price & Availability
The new Spectral:ON is available in two CFR models and three CF models:

Spectral:ON CFR LTD - Shimano EP8 motor. RockShox Lyrik Ultimate and Super Deluxe Ultra Flight Attendant. SRAM XX1 AXS drivetrain. SRAM Code RSC brakes. DT Swiss HXC 1501 wheels. Maxxis Assegai EXO / DHR II EXO+ tyres. RockShox Reverb AXS dropper. Canyon CP0012 bar / stem combo. 21.94kg (720Wh battery), 22.85kg (900Wh).

Spectral:ON CFR - Shimano EP8 motor. Fox 36 Factory fork and Float X shock. Shimano XTR drivetrain. Shimano XTR brakes. Reynolds TRE309 / 367 wheels. Maxxis Assegai EXO / DHR II EXO+ tyres. Fox Transfer Factory dropper. 21.84kg (720Wh battery), 22.75kg (900Wh). $10,500 USD

Spectral:ON CF9 - Shimano EP8 motor. Fox 36 Performance Elite fork and Float X Performance shock. SRAM GX AXS drivetrain. SRAM Code RS brakes. DT Swiss H1900 wheels. Maxxis Assegai EXO / DHR II EXO+ tyres. Canyon Iridium dropper. 22.84kg (720Wh battery), 23.85kg (900Wh).

Spectral:ON CF8 - Shimano EP8 motor. Fox 36 Rhythm Grip fork and DPS Performance shock. Shimano XT drivetrain. Shimano SLX brakes. DT Swiss H1900 wheels. Maxxis Assegai EXO / DHR II EXO+ tyres. Canyon Iridium dropper. 23.04kg (720Wh battery), 23.95kg (900Wh).

Spectral:ON CF7 - Shimano EP8 motor. RockShox Lyrik Select fork and Deluxe Select shock. Shimano XT drivetrain. Shimano Deore brakes. RaceFace AR30 / AR35 wheels. Maxxis Assegai EXO / DHR II EXO+ tyres. Canyon Iridium dropper. 23.04kg (720Wh battery), 23.95kg (900Wh). $5,999 USD

Outside of the US, availability will be May 2022 for the CFR and CF models. The CFR models are only available with the 900Wh battery to start with. Later on, it will be available to choose between the 900Wh and 720Wh batteries when purchasing the CFR and CF models.

The US market will see the CF models in late spring 2022 with the CFR models coming in fall 2022. The CFR and CF8 models will have only the 900Wh batteries (S with 720Wh) and the CF7 models with only the 720Wh battery.

American consumers will have the option to upgrade to the 900Wh battery while supplies of the bigger battery last.

Pricing in Europe is only available at the time of writing for the CFR LTD and CFR models. The CFR LTD in size S (720Wh battery) is €10,999 and for sizes M to XL (900Wh battery) is €11,299. The CFR model in size S is €8,999 and in sizes M to XL is €9,299.

Prices will vary depending on the country, so it's best to check directly on canyon.com to see the full pricing in your country.





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Ride Impressions

I first threw a leg over the Spectral:ON CFR at the winter edition of Bike Connection Agency event in Tuscany, Italy, a few weeks back. The trails down there are huge amounts of fun and wring out the maximum amount of trail from the relatively small elevation without being slow or boringly flat.

Bike setup was Canyon-like simple. While there was a World Cup rivalling number of mechanics and even the engineer and product managers behind the bike to help in guiding the setup, it was a familiar affair of feeling impressively comfortable on the bike with only the bare minimum of setup time in the car park.

I started with closer to 30% sag at the rear and followed Fox’s recommendations for pressure in the 36, which was a comfortable starting point. Bar height is noticeably more sensitive on an eMTB than on a regular bike. The gradients that can be climbed combined with the speed and regular kicks up the arse that an eMTB can give mean that it’s a finer balance between a comfortable but well weighted climbing position and a more stood and aggressive descending position.

At full spacers the bars were too high. Canyon uses long head tubes, which are great for steeper trails or taller riders, but the flatter trails of Tuscany require more confidence in the front wheel grip. Slamming the bars as much as possible helped, but the bars still remained quite high. Upping to closer to 25% shock sag helped to subtly load the front wheel more and remedy any uncertainty in front wheel grip while following the simply rapid Canyon engineer Patrick on the high-speed trails surrounding Massa Marittima.

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Back home in the Alps, the higher bar setup is more appreciated and the bike has been holding its own against many a bigger travel bike on the local trails, something that results in some weird expressions as riders have their back doors blown off by an eMTB. It can go seriously fast when you want it to.

When you do really give it some stick, you do start to feel that there isn’t all the travel underneath you, but the quality of the travel is very good and does a grand job of balancing suppleness and support without getting its knickers in a twist from the 20 plus kilograms hurtling down the hill. In the steeper home trails of the Alps, it did benefit from more fork pressure to fight the dive under braking combined with the bigger impacts. But the base setup of the bike, front and back, is very balanced and allows movement in either a softer or firmer direction without big compromise.

Canyon stated that they wanted that full power eMTB experience with the bigger battery, but with less of the restrictions that the heavier battery would impose. And I have to give it to them, it’s one hell of a playful bike. It’s impressively easy to move around and place on the trail compared to a lot of full power eMTBs, and that’s with the 900Wh battery. Swap out to the 720Wh and it’s upped another notch with a bit less weight up near the front of the bike.

This is keeping the comparisons between eMTBs, as compared to a normal MTB it certainly has a more wheels on the ground character and is definitely a lot more effort to get the front wheel up for manuals, pulls and manoeuvres. But in the eMTB world, the Spectral:ON CFR rides like a lighter bike with a fair bit of sprite in its step.

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It’s generally a comfortable place to spend a long ride, and with the bigger battery the rides that you can take on are whopping. The seated position is comfortable and well balanced for most of the climbs. Only when it gets truly steep and technical does it require a bit more body language and a more exaggerated position to balance the power of the motor to the available grip. But it’s impressive what the Spectral:ON can get itself up.

The EXO / EXO+ tire combo can be a bit on the limit when you ride really hard or in particularly jagged terrain, but the Assegai / DHR II pairing is a grippy and predictable one. And while there are ridiculous amounts of tire clearance, especially around the seatstay, it might actually be too much. The very voluminous seatstays make for a wide rear end that saw even my skinny legs rubbing all day long, something that I very rarely find. That width continues up front with the downtube, which will find every little piece thrown up from the front tire and hold onto it. I understand, and mostly appreciate, the reason behind the bike’s width, but it’s one of the widest bikes I’ve ever ridden.

Out back, the chain runs extremely close to the chainstay. In fact, in most of the hardest gears it will literally be on the chainstay. While it will move away when you’re riding and more in the bike’s travel, it does mean that the chain hits the chainstay about a thousand times a ride. Luckily the protection covers a wide area and is very well damped, but it could over time wear a little faster as the chain inevitably runs right over it on occasion while pedalling.

While the charge plug is a doddle to pop on and off, the big flaps on it that “integrate” it into the rest of the covers around the motor mean that it can very easily pop off mid ride, often then taking the skid plate with it. This frustratingly happened four times on one ride and once the charge plug is disconnected, the system is off. If you’re halfway up a really technical climb, this can get pretty annoying.

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The chain is pretty much on the chainstay at zero travel in the harder gears. While it does move away the further into travel you go, it does spend a lot of time in contact with the protector while riding either through slapping around or being pulled over it.
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I've had a few cases where the charge plug and skid plate have popped off mid ride. The cable from the battery to motor needs to sit nice just so to not push on the skid plate or twist easily off the magnetic battery connection.

The cable routing from the motor to the charging plug needs to sit quite neatly under the skid plate, otherwise it pushes on the skid plate and can make it all pop off with only the faintest of touches or jarrings from the trail. After a bit of fiddling, I seem to have got it to all sit correctly, but this has taken some time and has been present on both test bikes.

That skid plate also needs a good bit of attention to keep clean. While the design of the covers is to look as if it’s all one big cover, the gaps allow in a lot of water and mud that collects in the skid plate like a garden pond. But, the speed and ease of battery removal and retention, and those little magnets for the bolts, is much better that a lot of other eMTBs.

So far the new Spectral:ON CFR has been an absolute blast on the trails. The 900Wh battery is simply fantastic for making that clear separation between an eMTB and MTB for the length and style of rides, but its added weight hasn’t been a downfall. The bike’s sprite is really up there when comparing to other full power eMTBs which have more of a tank-like demeanour. While it’s not been long at all since the previous Spectral:ON, the new CFR and CF models are definitely a jump forward.




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169 Comments
  • 163 8
 The headset cable routing has got to go
  • 34 2
 I don't understand the reasoning of this kind of cable routing. If the cables are hidden in a special stem and than go though the headset, arguably there is at least some advantage of aesthetic. But in this case, I don't se any at all. The cables are visible anyway. They could have easily entered the frame in a similar location not going through the headset. This is really stupid IMO.
  • 34 0
 Next one will be front brake internally routed, need a lower leg service each time you touch your brake hose
  • 22 42
flag CM999 (Apr 5, 2022 at 4:16) (Below Threshold)
 I love it. Super neat and tidy. How often are you changing the cables? Once or twice a year. Brakes hoses, never?
  • 17 2
 @CM999: How often do you replace or grease your headset bearings? Smile
  • 7 0
 There must be a better solution. Other people have mentioned running cables externally but with a clippable or screw shut cover to hide the cables. There is a company who do this by running the cables under the downtube (maybe Specialized, I forget).
  • 8 0
 @tremeer023: funny enough, I believe Canyon did the same with the downtube protector being used to hide and shield cables.
  • 4 0
 @Mac1987: Yes Canyon used to (might still) do this, Guerilla Gravity do similar with a cover on the non drive side of the downtube. clamped down external routing can look good, look at RAAW.
  • 3 0
 @Brodybro29: yeah........, its a thing already with road bikes, so hang on tight..
  • 6 0
 @CM999: Every three months when the crappy Acros headset with a hole in it needs new bearings
  • 5 0
 I honestly don't see why even bother.. i know people love the neat look and all.. but who cares about those cables.. even externally routed, can be quite nice...
  • 2 0
 @Mac1987: Ibis also had a great downtube protector that also hid & shielded the cables. Worked fine.
  • 52 3
 So many red flags here:
- Proprietary stupid headset? Check.
- Their own version of Knockblock? Check.
- Proprietary stupid stem & bar combo? Check. (the bike weighs 44lbs, did you really need to save 17grams here?)
- Proprietary stupid water bottle cage? Check.
- They literally WARN you not to use a coil shock because of the side-loading of their suspension design? Check.
  • 6 0
 I bet if I dumped another 5K on that bike for carbon parts, I could get the weight down to under 20kg. Think how much faster it would be.
  • 3 3
 @tacklingdummy: just chip it up #Ebikes
  • 9 2
 @bishopsmike: That's a significant list of red flags for this bike.

This internal headset garbage needs to be confronted and boycotted by consumers. It usually significantly increases friction in the rear derailleur cable, and the cable will have to be replaced more often to maintain good shifting performance. All for looks, bullshite.

This crap seems more likely to happen with direct to consumer bike brands get no feedback from bike shop employees who have to deal with the nightmares that the idiot bicycle 'aesthetic engineers' come up with to make bikes look sleeker. But it also seems to be the general trend of the bike industry.
  • 6 0
 @bishopsmike: also:
- Chain rubs on chainstay in hardest gears
  • 5 0
 @bishopsmike: I'll just leave this article here. Was brought to my attention a few years ago while working for a Specialized dealer and seeing a revolving door of blown out shocks. At least Canyon is being upfront on the side loading shock thing.

www.ridefox.com/fox17/help.php?m=bike&id=1138
  • 1 0
 @IluvRIDING: money. money is always the answer....

if you can buy a headseat that allows the cables to go in there, versus add manufacturing steps to drill holes in your frame, add bolt bosses for the covers(that you also have to design and source), which are you doing?
  • 1 0
 @nolimit: less than every year.

the UK is a neat place!
  • 2 0
 100% wtf are these companies thinking ? No bar/stem ajustabilaty and you will have headset bearing issues when water gets into that headset.
  • 2 2
 Pure fuckin marketing.
  • 2 5
 @putin-you-ugly-mother-f*cker: yet here you are on a sub 5year old bike 27.5/29er... #Ebikes are the future.
  • 4 0
 @nolimit: Far too often. I've replaced 2 headsets in the last 12 months both on Scott bikes.
  • 3 0
 @nolimit: couple times a season. Replace once per season.
  • 1 0
 @nolimit: Not often, but I do live in a drier climate. Less than replacing my cables. Haven't needed to. Headset bearings are sealed and either good to go or need to be replaced. What maintenance are you doing to your headset bearings?
  • 97 0
 Thanks Pinkbike and Dan for your tireless hate for headset cable routing. Fab
  • 35 1
 Does the Mafia own Acros?
“You use our sh1tty headsets, or we will replace your wife with a horses head whilst you sleep”

Either that or they are giving them away to manufs, so that they keep costs down and then charge consumers silly amount for replacements due to water ingress.

What a nightmare, it has to stop!!!
  • 10 1
 Acros headsets were already shit before they started putting cable holes in them, they must be giving them away.
  • 11 0
 The one on my YT lasted 4/5 months (totally seized). Put a cane creek hellbender in and had to touch it for the first time 15 months in, just a quick clean and reassemble.

I’m pretty sure accros use cheese to make their seals
  • 5 0
 @Sambikes11:

I got the same shit on my YT, and these genius made the bearings non replaceable so when the bearings are seized after 5 months you need to change the whole headset
  • 1 0
 @Brodybro29:

Yea thats the same with the one on the vitus and nukeproof ebikes - you can’t change bearings, you have to change whole headset - costs £70 for each side!!!
  • 1 1
 That's a good one. Sales department from hell Big Grin .
  • 4 0
 Maybe it’s the Gillette model of razor blade refills. Like where you buy the handle and one blade at a loss and they make all their markup on the replacement blades.

First headset is free with the bike, Acros provides it free to the manufacturer. Because of the idiotic internal routing you have extremely limited replacement options and have to continue purchasing more Acros headsets. 4x a year.
  • 2 0
 @husstler: You sir, have hit the nail on the head…err…set
  • 24 1
 Did they design this as a high pivot bike and then forget the idler?
First time I’ve seen anyone use a stay as a chain idler!
  • 17 0
 First it was range anxiety...now its battery envy...
  • 10 1
 Still though, a 900 wh battery in a bike that weighs as much as others 650 wh bikes, impressive feat of engineering
  • 8 1
 IF the frames will hold up proper riding for several years
  • 15 0
 I'm more interested in that titanium-lugged prototype Drool
  • 3 0
 Who knew Canyon had an Atherton Bikes factory in that shed out the back, just for prototyping?
  • 2 0
 That's an interesting way of producing prototypes for sure.
  • 1 5
flag hamncheez (Apr 5, 2022 at 9:00) (Below Threshold)
 I too would love to try it.

Ebikes are too stiff. The monocoque design of the front triangle (to house the battery) doesn't allow for nearly enough compliance. This is part of the reason why bearings, rear shocks, etc get nuked so quickly on ebikes.

This prototype has more analog bike tubing dimensions, so I bet it can ride better too.
  • 2 0
 You can make your own carbon tubes with an Arduino:

hackaday.com/2019/01/18/an-arduino-carbon-fiber-wrapping-machine
  • 1 0
 @zoobab2: thats cool
  • 11 2
 At least since it’s an ebike, the paying customer will be able to afford all the extra labour in cable removal and break bleeds etc, when the stock headset bearing inevitably seize after 4 months
  • 2 1
 next time you bleed brakes try leaving the cable alone. It will save you some time Big Grin
  • 11 0
 Sooo, what's the deal with the New Lyrik?
  • 2 0
 That does look different to previous lyriks doesn't it
  • 6 0
 Flight attendant
  • 1 0
 Looks like it has bleeder nips on the back like the 38
  • 1 0
 @Marasdfg: ahh of course.. more stuff to charge
  • 1 0
 With the updated boxxer breaking cover, the launch of both seems imminent
  • 3 0
 Soon. New damper, new architecture, air bleed ports, Buttercups. Probably lighter, stiffer. New Debonair spring.
  • 2 0
 Surprised there's not a 'Spotted: New Rockshox Lyrik' article yet, with screenshots of this article...
  • 9 0
 What's the point of carbon for a heavy ebike? Is it then additional stiffness?
  • 18 0
 probably also to keep it from becoming a very heavy ebike.
  • 13 0
 There is also the added freedom of design. They've got some complex shapes going on that would probably be quite expensive in Aluminum.
  • 5 0
 Wehay. Dan is back! He had been so quiet for so long I was worried he had gone.
Love his reviews, particularly DH week.
Is it too soon to ask for his review of DT swiss carbon wheels that he was testing last year?
Or did they blow up completely and he's been tied up underground until he promises not to utter a word about it.
  • 13 5
 Cue the Ebike haters in 3,2,1.
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flag Tuna-Flapjack (Apr 5, 2022 at 4:20) (Below Threshold)
 Its so pathetic considering they are here to stay and you only have to look at what the pros ride to know they are better all round. #Ebike
  • 6 3
 @Tuna-Flapjack: yeah because pros get to choose what they use...
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flag Tuna-Flapjack (Apr 5, 2022 at 11:35) (Below Threshold)
 @Dogl0rd: You could work for Russian news channels with fake news like that, its fact that most pro's are turning to #Ebikes its just old dudes that dont like change that spread this fake bs.
  • 4 1
 @Tuna-Flapjack: yes because I don't like ebikes I am complicit in a genocide
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flag Tuna-Flapjack (Apr 5, 2022 at 11:41) (Below Threshold)
 @Dogl0rd: if i knew what that meant id probably agree. #Ebikes are the future deal with it old man.
  • 5 2
 @Tuna-Flapjack: they are not the future any more than muscle bikes are. There will always be muscle bikes and muscle bikers looking down from on high on the e-bike rabble scornfully mumbling things like "pathetic!" The future will be much like the present
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flag Tuna-Flapjack (Apr 5, 2022 at 12:57) (Below Threshold)
 @Dogl0rd: @DonutLord you tell yourself that! I bet you don't even know what a FW update is or how to do one.
  • 5 1
 The target consumer of this bike will never even consider getting their hands dirty bleeding a brake or changing a shift cable. It's like an expensive new German car. A maintenance headache you take to the shop and pay for the privilege of making it someone else's problem. Privateer enduro-bros that are too frugal to use their LBS (Pinkbike demographic) will never buy it.
  • 2 0
 I dont have a problem with folks taking bikes to bike shops to get fixed. A big part of bike shops business is service. Frugal guys can learn maintenance for themselves if they want to. It's called choice. My biggest concern is WARRANTY coverage for these electronics. one year on a $1000 battery? hmmm.
  • 1 0
 I don't know.
There are sooo many ebikes around now, why would a shop be happy to mess with a complicated 12k€ ebike from an online retailer?
I can see the queue at the lbs around the next corner, people waiting to get their chainrings and flat tires fixed.

I bought some Canyons, if it is not just brake bleeding you send this bike back to Canyon, and I guess you will have to or the warranty will be void.
If you buy in this price region, you can afford a lawyer to handle the warranty mess for you, and don't let Canyon (or whatever brand it is) talk you into a lesser solution than you expect. Like with new cars.
  • 5 2
 I don't see why manufacturers can't add external routing options on the frames like Pole. I would rather spend an extra half day riding than changing a brake hose. Brakes are often swapped out on bikes people buy as its such a personal preference for lever feel and power. I was interested in a 900w battery but I can't be dealing with unnecessary extra maintenance.
  • 1 0
 agreed. i just had to replace a hose on my rear brake because it has been switched between so many internally routed frames that it was eventually too short. Alternatively, why not make the port slightly wider so that the olive doesn't have to be cut off every time. They're probably worried about rattling but if the brake line is smaller at all than the tube (which is has to be) then it will potentially rattle. Seems moot
  • 5 0
 How does the shock extender on this bike differ from something like a Commencal Meta or Specialized Status, both bikes cleared for the use with coil shocks?
  • 16 0
 The answer is ebikes and honesty. Ebikes nuke rear shocks, especially horizontally mounted shocks, especially with shock yokes. Because batteries are now internal, the downtube is way too stiff. The extra torque from the motor requires manufacturers to also increase the stiffness of the chainstays, and this adds up to a lot of stress at the linkages. The frame will flex, but all the flex is now coming from the middle, really stressing the rear shock. EXT has an ebike specific shock for this reason. Specialized normal bikes have a reputation for premature rear shock wear, and their ebikes are even worse. Notorious, one might say. Canyon is just honest about it.
  • 3 0
 Still waiting for spherical bearings to save our shocks
  • 1 0
 @kanioni: those can only help so much. Such is the challenge of engineering a motorized vehicle that needs a lightweight, compliant chassis.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: I'm not sure it's lateral flex as in the bike flexing left/right that causes damage, but the forces applied are too upward (so kind of "perpendicularly" to the direction of the shock) because of the yoke length making the leverage force stronger on the shock, so instead of sliding inside the shock binds and tries to flex upward and eventually snaps.
On a VPP like Santa Cruz there's also a small circular trajectory, but as there's no yoke the male/female junction of the shock is at 1/3-2/3 so the leverage force is ok.
But on such kinematic with a yoke the male/female ratio is now 1/2-1/2, making the stress much bigger.
If so I'm not sure spherical bearings would save the shock.
Burf from BTR made an interesting post about this on IG when he was making a DH bike. The initial design had a long yoke and he had to redesign it.
  • 5 0
 Somewhere on FOXs website they have a laundry list of bikes that use yokes that they won't warranty and advise against using a coil on due to side loading. It's a thing. Canyon is just being up front about it.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: In fairness Specialized is as well (now). They repeatedly say that most coil sprung shocks aren't officially supported for the Levo/Kenevo and if you ask Fox/Rockshox/Cane Creek/etc. they will tell you which coil sprung shocks (if any) will work.
  • 1 0
 @EXT-USA care to chime in on the e-Storia?
  • 2 5
 @hamncheez: #Ebike Hater #FakeNews Specialized make the number 1 #Ebike on the market right now.
  • 5 2
 Even though it hurts, I think Pinkbike and we as readers need to acknowledge that bikes are not made for us, as the core audience, anymore. For every rider that wants to tinker with their cockpit there's at least 25 other people that strap fenders on that bike and use it as a SUV gravel bike. And those people either love integrated cables or couldn't care less.
  • 3 2
 But hey, we live in a capitalist world, so we can still (try to) voting with our hard earned dollars! It's just funny how Pinkbike thinks that small company called acros can force something like cable integration onto the some of the smartest brains at Canyon and the whole industry. I feel like bike brands do a pretty good job of finding that "wrong" route (from our point of view) all on their own...and it would not be the first time they could need a map. Maybe Trailforks could help?
  • 3 0
 "While the charge plug is a doddle to pop on and off, the big flaps on it that “integrate” it into the rest of the covers around the motor mean that it can very easily pop off mid ride, often then taking the skid plate with it. This frustratingly happened four times on one ride and once the charge plug is disconnected, the system is off. If you’re halfway up a really technical climb, this can get pretty annoying" This shit should never happen. Dot your I's cross your T's then send it out into the world.
  • 6 1
 1 piece bar and stem is ridiculously stupid. Exo casing tires on an ebike should be illegal.
  • 2 0
 Development looks a bit weird on this one. Some nice ideas and some that seem rushed. I'm afraid 720WH or more batteries start causing more headaches than good. Building a bike around the motor was already not ideal for kinematic, but now it seems they're building bikes around a ginormous battery and have to do all kind of compromises to fit it. A bit funny how ebikes start to look more and more like bikes from the side, and more and more like 18 wheelers from the front. I'll make do with 2x630WH batteries on mine and I'll just take the second one when I plan a longer ride.
  • 1 0
 Is it just me or is 900 ridiculous? I would much rather have two 400wh batteries at half the weight that I can swap out easily. I rode kanuga for 2 hours nonstop on my 625 battery then had to charge, would rather have two smaller batteries.
  • 4 3
 Pay a bunch to see which part wins in the chain vs. chainstay battle? Seems they just stopped designing right at that point and said screw it we will deal with this via warranty for the one ebike out of ten that actually gets ridden properly.
  • 1 0
 Agreed. I don't see how that didn't come up as an issue at some point during the design and development phase.

It's crazy to me people accept this kind of thing on a bike that expensive. That said people buy the shit out of Specialized ebikes despite them nuking most of the "e"-related parts, so maybe the threshold for a good product is just that much lower for ebikes.

Before people chime in, I'm aware that Specialized's warranty is apparently good (for those prices for those bikes, your hope so) but I'd rather a bike with a warranty I didn't have to use, and bank that extra riding time rather than waiting for warranty processes to rumble on.
  • 7 5
 I have a novel way of solving the 'range anxiety' issue: Don't have a battery in the first place! Then you can ride a reasonably light and reliable bike ALL DAY with no issues at all! I wonder if it'll catch on....
  • 13 1
 I mean, when your battery dies on an e-bike it just turns into a really heavy mountain bike, so it's not the end of the world. Much better than running out of gas on a moto.
  • 3 1
 @mikekazimer: how am I suppose to run out of gas on my Alta?
  • 5 1
 @mikekazimer: Also you'll be surprised that an eBike motor off is not much slower uphill than a standard bike. It just feels slow, particularly when you've just been using assistance.
  • 4 0
 @rojo-1: post a pic of your thighs please.
  • 5 0
 I tested battery off enduro ebike vs manual enduro bike on my 600m ascent loop last summer. 1 hour 45 on manual. 5 minutes slower on battery off eeb. An objective official Pb efficiency test obviously required as I’m an ebiker and so a lazy cheater by nature.
  • 1 0
 @rojo-1: 50 Plus pounds uphill? ya its slower than 30 pounds uphill by a LOT
  • 1 0
 @Hoverp: 15km loop, 600m ascent ride. Let’s say 70% of time is uphill, 20% flat, 10% downhill. Uphill is steep so work against gravity dominates rather than aerodynamic drag. If you weigh 85kg + 15kg bike, then 7kg more for an ebike is 7% longer time. Loop takes 100 minutes, so it should be 7 minutes slower. On my test it was a bit less than this. I also tested a dh bike on the same loop. It was 18kg and was 15 minutes slower.
  • 1 0
 Oops only 70% of 100 minutes is uphil, so 7% of 70 minutes = 5 minutes slower.
  • 1 0
 @wgm20: still waiting on these pics bruh.

Not reading your mathS.
  • 1 0
 @owl-X: I don’t have a picture to hand, but basically this: pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2181901607/Chris_Hoy_legs_400x400.jpeg
  • 2 0
 @wgm20: thought so.
  • 1 0
 Looking at the 5th photo down, yes, the bar/stem combo, cable through the headset idea is aesthetically pleasing and does tidy the whole area up BUT why bother when you have to add the Shimano display, it's like talking to a beautiful girl with a 'bat in the cave' (that's a bogie/ booger hanging down for international reference) Giant/Specialized got this sorted now for eBikes.
  • 1 0
 Excellent in-depth test by PB and some innovative solutions there. However, I like the concept of the R.E375 much better. 375 Wh on the bike, and if you‘d need it a lightweight 375 Wh Battery in the Backpack.

Or the Dual Battery concept of the rare Simplon Rapcon Pmax, one of the most beautiful and well engineered e-Enduros. 500 Wh or 625 Wh in-tube and Dual Battery for optional 500 Wh On-tube for 1125 Wh.

That said, a lesser known fact is that Shimano’s EP8 is not for heavier riders above 90 kgs as in hot summer on steep southside climbs it overheats. after the usual 25 mins the motor takes to heat up to it’s maximum threshold after which it starts to throttle down and looses efficiency.

that’s the downside of small lightweight motors that can’t dissipate heat well unlike their larger and heavier cousins like Bosch Gen4 or Brose S-Mag which are thermically extremely stable.
  • 2 0
 "the chain inevitably runs right over the chainstay protector on occasion while pedalling." Really??? 10k€ bike and no designer noted it??? Unforgivable in my opinion...
  • 3 0
 Keen to see the Torque-on offered as mullet - including this down tube integration and larger battery options…..
  • 7 2
 EXO tires on 22kg bike?
  • 1 0
 EXO tires are ok for normal 12 kg bikes and 80 kg biker? should be ok for 22 kg ebike and 70 kg biker then
  • 1 1
 @pippetti-biker:
Not true, the unsuspended mass and the uncontrolled bad skills are much higher with ebikes.
But way has it DD on the foto?
  • 4 0
 I can pay €9000 for a new car and NOT lose parts on a drive...
  • 1 0
 Car with a 100km range battery?
  • 1 0
 @cxfahrer: It could happen!
  • 1 0
 only 900wh??? holding out for some sort of instantly refillable energy source. bear with me- a LIQUID that could "recharge" the motor in seconds. i'd be willing to spend 12,333.99 US Dollars on that
  • 5 2
 Price depend on size, WTF….
  • 21 0
 finally short people have an advantage...
  • 28 1
 probably because the small comes with a smaller battery so is going to be less expensive.
  • 1 3
 @fssphotography: the larger bikes cost less because of the economy of scale. Unlucky short people
  • 12 0
 Taller people earn more.
  • 5 0
 bigger battery = more cost at a guess. Seems fair if you are getting a small why shouldn't you get it cheaper with the smaller battery
  • 4 0
 @IluvRIDING: plus taller people know when it starts to rain before shorter people.
  • 4 2
 I hope that Canyon's mtb bar/stem combo holds better then its roadie counterpart
  • 2 0
 I hope the bash plate has been well tested, its going to get slammed into a few rocks sticking out that far!
  • 3 0
 Dam, give me that carbon lugged one. That looks sick as F*!
  • 3 0
 someone calls it a prototype, and someone calls it an atherton bikes
  • 2 0
 A Dan Roberts "first ride" is like 3 times the length of a normal PB review
  • 1 0
 11k f*cking quid and the front brake hose is 100mm too f*cking long.

that is some attrocious shite. Did they size it by braille? FFS
  • 1 0
 That prototype is probably one of the better looking e bikes. It just lets the different bits express themselves and that’s elegant.
  • 1 1
 The heavier battery will be perfect to ensure even more frame cracking, which they will deny the warranty because you riding your mountain bike like a mountain bike isn't covered under warranty.
  • 3 1
 Not Gonna Lie it Kinda looks like a session.
  • 2 0
 let's the cables free again
  • 2 0
 Love, how they balanced the bike just with a leaf beneath the rear tyre...
  • 2 0
 No coil is a no go in hot countries, especially on an e-bike...
  • 2 0
 11,299 Euro !!!!! My god no !!!!!
  • 2 2
 Can we pause for a second and acknowledge that this bike is pretty sexy looking? With and without the integrated cable routing. Just saying...
  • 1 0
 I don't even have range anxiety on my Kenevo SL with 35nm torque and 320Whr battery....
  • 1 0
 That RockShox Lyrik look thicker, is that a new Lyrik base on the 38 platform?
  • 3 0
 States 35mm in Canyon specs, at least.
  • 1 0
 Wheels removable without tools! Throw money $$$
  • 1 0
 Any experience with the plastic headset spacers?
  • 11 10
 #Ebikes are just so much cooler than normal bikes.
  • 2 1
 You got that right
  • 2 1
 What is a gear cable? So 2019.
  • 1 0
 Haha, such a Swiss thing to say!
  • 2 0
 Holy chonky
  • 1 0
 dod·dle ˈdädl
noun doddle
a very easy task.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a.... Norco Range VLT
  • 1 0
 imagine a bike that only uses batteries (cough cough)
  • 2 0
 Nice looking Norco VLT.
  • 2 0
 Norco Sight/Range VLT, Turbo Levo & this new Spectral ON are all looking pretty much the same anyway.
  • 1 0
 @rick26: Geo and weight on this new Spectral ON is making it look nice . I have the 2022 Sight VLT C1 with the 900w and the numbers on the new Canyon is making me think about switching . LOL
  • 1 0
 Note the cable ports on the prototype...
  • 5 5
 Hey pinkbike why don't you make a separate website for all the E bike stuff. I only come here to look at mountain bikes.
  • 1 0
 that chain looks like it will rest on the chainstay in the hardest gear?!
  • 1 0
 Those lame bar/stem/headset combo could be the deal breaker .
  • 1 0
 Bike Co.s just start buying Atherton Bikes as "prototypes"....
  • 1 2
 "Neat little features like the Quixle make it a doddle to take the wheel out without any tools."

Love a new proprietary standard that wasnt needed
  • 1 0
 Cable routing......
  • 1 0
 Yeti 130 E
  • 2 3
 Electric Penny Farthing. How cool!!
  • 2 2
 Muscle bikes forever!!!
  • 4 4
 Yay broped
  • 1 2
 Why am I reading an article about Ebikes? Wrong pill I guess...
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