Bike Check: Dangerholm's Scott Genius ST Concept

Mar 11, 2024 at 13:51
by Danger Holm  
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Words: Dangerholm

Bubbles and echo chambers. Before we fully focus on the bike presented here, let us first take another dive into one of the most heated topics of today as far as new trends go: cable routing. While I'm not here trying to convert anyone into believing this or that, it could probably be a good thing to have a nuanced perspective. That way it might be easier to understand some of the thinking behind this build, no matter what you chose to ride yourself.

I often use the phrase "to zoom out", both mentally to myself and in discussions with friends, as a reminder to try and look at things in a bigger perspective than what's right in front of me. These days, because of us choosing where we read the news and who we follow on various social media, it's so easy to get caught in a bubble of like-mindedness. We surround ourselves with voices that echo our opinions, giving us a sense of comfort and reassurance that we know best.

I came across what felt like one such example the other day when scrolling Pinkbike's Instagram feed. There was a post showing an internal cable routing system, followed by 150-something ways of saying that it sucks. And fair enough, I'm not saying that it's a wrong opinion to have. Not at all. But what's interesting is that this was such a stark contrast to my days working in the bike shop, or talking to people at bike shows. Sure I've met complaints, but the majority of people haven't made it into a big deal or simply liked the clean looks so much that they don't mind a bit of extra work.

In a way history is once again repeating itself, as we see the same discussions today about headset cable routing as we saw when we started to depart from fully external cable routing. These days that aspect is not much of a topic anymore, almost no one is making frames like that anymore and today's standards are quite accepted. A main reason being that with time things became better than those first iterations. Now there are internal cable channels, foam liners, easy access service doors, wireless components, good magnet tools and so on.

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A nightmare to many, but maybe it doesn't have to be.

So, to keep things constructive, here are a few points I personally believe are often overlooked whenever cable tourism comes up. Because we are after all very much in the beginning of this trend, so there's plenty of hope for improvement and with time it doesn't have to be the end of the world.

• Timing
Whether you're a fan of electronic wireless components or not, we're bound to see a lot more of them in the coming years. And as an effect of this, we'll have fewer cables to worry about regardless of the routing system.

• Which bikes
A similar point is which bike models should feature headset cable routing, and it could be argued that it should be more reserved to higher-end models until wireless shifting etc is more common on lower price points. While I personally think it's unlikely to happen, it could be one way forward in the coming years.

• New component designs
In a way, it's been as if the frame manufacturers have been one step ahead of the component manufacturers. As in that the components haven't been available that really will make for clean looks and thereby making the overall design more worthwhile. One example of this is how SRAM now has their Stealth series of brakes, pointing the brake hose towards the headset, while most other brake brands still only offer traditional setups. Not to mention truly stealth brake designs, which are unlikely to appear anytime soon.

• More user friendly tech
If anyone manages to implement a good quick-brake hose design, it would suddenly make things a lot easier. And there are already some technologies on the market making things a lot easier, such as more durable headset bearings or 3mm diameter Jagwire dropper remote cable housing that is so much easier to work with compared to stiff 4mm housing.

• With every movement comes a counter-movement
Does anyone remember how vinyl record sales actually increased once music streaming really took off? This new modern technology actually gave the traditional format a boost, as it strengthened that community as well that industry. And while the majority of bikes will go in this modern super clean looking direction, I'm sure that we'll see plenty of options pop up from smaller manufacturers or as alternative models from the big brands.

So, what's my point here? Simply that things will get better and that you probably won't have to be too upset about your future bike. And with that in mind, perhaps you can better enjoy this Scott Genius ST Concept as a somewhat complicated vision of a hopefully more user-friendly future.

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The Frame
The Scott Genius ST, or Super Trail, is the brand’s more heavy-hitting trail bike option. With the 150mm of rear wheel travel taken care of by the very capable Fox Float X NUDE 3-position shock, with piggyback reservoir and a full range of adjustments, and they come stock with 160mm forks with no remote to instead focusing on having more adjustable dampers.

While Scott is calling the Genius a trail bike, that can definitely feel like a bit of an understatement as it borders on enduro capability. But either way it's a true all-rounder, especially when considering how well it climbs in Traction Mode.

It also has some clever features, such as easily adjustable head angle and a sag indicator letting you easily set up your suspension as well as keeping an eye on how much travel you use. The black service door in the down tube pops off with a simple push of a button, letting you do any adjustments to the shock or remove it pretty much just as easily as on a bike with an external shock. As a small extra, I'm also using a made in Italy METI titanium thru axle. Honestly for no other particular reason than that I love titanium and that the finish is superb.

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Despite the internal rear shock, it's really easy to set the bike up and for example keep track of how much travel you use.

As I wanted to have the cockpit on this bike as visually clean as possible, but also not just giving up on the 3-position function of the rear shock, I made a custom frame mounted remote instead of using the normal handlebar mounted version. It is actually based on an old 10-speed shifter, as 3 clicks on this is very close to the 7mm of cable pull that each suspension mode requires. It has extremely distinct clicks, so you just pull 3 clicks to go into Traction Mode and then pull another 3 clicks till it stops to put the rear shock in Climb Mode.

Ideally I would find a way to remove the in-between clicks so there's no risk of confusion out on the trail, I just didn't have time at this point to really look into it. Either way the system works surprisingly well, and as this is not exactly a race-focused build I don't mind having to let go of the handlebar to adjust the rear shock.

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An old model 10-speed shifter has been modified to work as rear shock remote.

To complement the technically minimalistic appearance of the bike, I chose to go with a clean and simple look color wise with subtle logos. Having built many bikes in the past with white or raw carbon base and bright accent colors, I wanted to try something new for myself and ended up using a shade from the RAL palette called 1014 Ivory. These sand/beige paints can be a bit of a hit or miss, but one thing that sets this paint job apart a little is the semi-matte finish which almost gives it a retro vibe alongside the polished components. So far the reactions have been surprisingly positive, with way less "Looks like a German taxi" remarks than anticipated.

The Fork
The Intend Hero 160mm fork was an easy choice for this build. It's lightweight, super supple, has superb fore-aft stiffness and personally I really like the riding characteristics. I usually say that these forks are amazing but not for everyone, which of course has to do with the upside down design. If you're a heavier rider who loves nothing better than smashing berms in the bike park, you probably won't like the slightly more vague steering feedback. If you on the other hand focus on trail performance riding off-cambers and rough stuff, having the front wheel track the ground better instead of getting bounced off to the side from obstacles, they are great. So as with so many other things it comes down to personal preference in the end.

But another big reason for choosing this fork was the visual aspects, as the oversized crown and upper legs look good against modern bigger diameter head tubes and also it could be painted to nicely match. And it was of course about the cable routing too, as the upside down design allows for some new ways of thinking.

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A new style of brake hose routing.

Essentially I've been having this idea at the back of my head, that it should be possible to route the front brake hose through the fork crown, down the backside of the fork leg and then have it flex without getting caught in the front wheel upon compression. The only problem was that I had never had the chance to actually try if it would work, so there was only one way to find out. Luckily Cornelius Kapfinger, the founder of Intend, is always open minded and curious to try new things. So he helped me prepare the two holes in the crown and in the steerer tube, as these were a lot easier to do ahead of these parts being assembled. Needless to say though, this is all very much a prototype, very much warranty-voiding and very much not recommended.

After painting I then added slightly modified self-adhesive cable guides from Jagwire, to secure the brake hose. And to what honestly was my big surprise, it all worked perfectly. The internal routing worked and so did the compression of the fork, without the brake hose getting tangled. I will show it on an Instagram video later on, but essentially the brake hose mimics the shape of a coil spring upon compression. It does not in any way go in towards the wheel, but slightly outwards and backwards. Sure this is not a setup likely to see mass production as it puts extra stress on the hose itself and has to be more carefully set up, but I'm very happy to say that on this bike it seems to be all good.

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Call it luck or skill, somehow it actually worked out perfectly.

Here I'm also using a METI titanium thru axle, and the only thing missing now is to hopefully be able to get some black stanchions which would match the bikes paint job so much better. Hopefully this is something that the future will bring.

Cockpit
On top sits a Syncros Hixon iC Rise one piece carbon handlebar, which also has been heavily modified to allow for the internal cable routing. Naturally it has been suitably reinforced, to compensate for the new holes and ensure that it’s safe for me to ride, but it is still very much a one-off prototype and not recommended to imitate in any way.

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The new shape of the stem section was literally hand sculpted.

Everything is then routed through a modified Syncros headset to allow for the front end cable entry, and which spins on CeramicSpeed SLT bearings. SLT is short for Solid Lubrication Technology, meaning that instead of grease they are completely filled with a self-lubricating plastic polymer inside. So there's nothing to clean or lube, as grease can't be pressed out and dirt can't get in, making them essentially maintenance free. Despite the name, they are fully made from stainless steel as there's no real benefit of having ceramic bearings here.

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No grease no problems.

The nice looking and super light, coming in at just 3,4g including the bolt, top cap is my own signature model called Oknytt, made in Germany by RadoxX Components.

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Seeing your own logo on nicely made components is surreal.

The controllers for the rear derailleur and dropper seat post are almost invisible at a first glance, as they just look like lock-on grip collars. The super minimalistic controllers are made by Zirbel and called Twister WE03, actually providing great ergonomics and a tactile feel thanks to running on ball bearings and with strong small magnets providing the ”click” resistance. They have cables being routed under the grip, through the handlebar and into the frame where they connect to a SRAM BlipBox. The latter have been placed near the down tube service door, making it easy to access. So this setup is a bit more work than running the standard SRAM pods, but a small price to pay in this case for the super clean looks. If used as a shifter controller on for example a normal Genius or Spark, they're a lot easier to install since the cables can just be routed along the rear brake hose.

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The SRAM BlipBox is hidden in the down tube.
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Zirbel controllers are minimalistic but still offer great ergonomics.

Having thin cables under the grips means that I’m using the traditional push-on version of the Syncros AM grips. But as long as you secure them well, the extra amount of rubber makes them really comfortable and that's not a bad thing.

Seat Combo
Up top there’s a Syncros Tofino R SL, which is not only very light but also one of my favorites comfort-wise for MTB. What’s really special about it is that the rails and saddle shell is actually a single carbon construction, made in just one step. This gives it a great strength-to-weight ratio and is a small fascinating feat of engineering and manufacturing upon a closer look.

The seat post is a standard RockShox Reverb AXS in 170mm, aside from the custom polished collar, and the clean looking seat clamp is an Intend Corona.

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The rails and the base of the saddle are molded in a single step as one piece.

Brakes
There were two main factors to consider with the brake choice on this bike: stopping power as it is a descending focused bike and also of course the integration possibilities. Trickstuff Piccola HD fit the bill perfectly, being very powerful with their 4-piston calipers and the levers are offered with a special banjo that lets you angle the brake hose directly towards the handlebar. I must say that having a rotatable banjo coupling in this place is actually pretty nice in general too, as it allows you to nicely fine tune your setup compared to having to bend hoses to your best ability or having the point in a less than ideal direction.

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A special banjo coupling allows for modern style routing.
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The original...

As a bonus, they also look great and have an incredibly light and smooth lever feel. And not to forget, they come equipped with the Trickstuff Power brake pads which is a good thing for any brake system.

The brake discs are Trickstuff Dächle UL (Ultra Light) in 180mm rear and 203mm front.

The brake disc bolts are worth a closer look, as they are as beautiful as a set of bolts can be. Also made by METI like the thru axles, they are machined from titanium in the most intricate way and in this version relies on a socket for installation. As opposed to shallow torx heads with questionable tool fit, these make the process rock solid and a joy for any mechanic. The brake calipers bolt feature a similar design and look, but with the addition of a hex key option for easy trail side adjustments.

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Machined in a small workshop in Italy with great care.

Drivetrain
Up front there’s a SRAM X0 carbon crankset that has been custom painted in matte black, with a prototype 34T chainring attached. The chainring is made after my own design idea by RadoxX Components, as part of my upcoming signature series, and is called Bergakungen. This means ”the Mountain King” in Swedish, and is a name based on old folklore as this entity was said to be the protector of the mountain and its ore. The final testing has just been finished and the first batch will be available in April.

The pedals are the Xpedo Baldwin which is a quite lightweight option with a SPD style mechanism.

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My new signature chainring was inspired by 5-spoke variants for a timeless look.

This spins on a coated CeramicSpeed bottom bracket, for maximum performance as well as long life. Replacing the plastic preload adjuster on the cranks is a CeramicSpeed aluminium counterpart, which is both nicer to use and to look at.

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While not adding much function, aftermarket preload adjusters are still a fun little tuning detail.

The SRAM X0 Transmission chain then connects to a matching cassette, before we reach the rear derailleur which is a small piece of art on its own. The base is a SRAM Eagle AXS X0 Transmission derailleur, which has had the outer face of the b-knuckle polished to go with the rest of the bike. The parallelogram and skid plate is made of forged carbon by Hopp Carbon Parts in Germany. Not only do these small parts save a little bit of weight, but once again it is also about the visual appearance.

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Yes, this is one expensive derailleur but I mean, just look at it?!

They go perfectly with the carbon cage of the CeramicSpeed OSPW X for Transmission rear derailleur cage. It looks quite amazing, and has some clever features to keep friction low and durability high. Few brands stir the pot as much as CeramicSpeed, but to me it's quite simple no matter how much people scream snake oil. It's expensive stuff and they're about marginal gains, so it's what you upgrade last on your bike when all other things are top level. But they truly do make amazing quality products, as I've literally never ever had any issues with one.

With the new OSPW X system they level up quite a bit compared to their old off-road offerings. The solid pulley wheels means that nothing can get stuck and they now feature composite teeth for less noise. But the most interesting thing is probably the grooves around the specially shaped bearing covers that work together to mechanically keep the dirt away from the bearings.

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A new stiffer cage and solid pulley wheels so nothing can get stuck.
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Molded grooves and special dust covers helps keep the dirt out.

Wheels
Duke Racing Wheels makes the hubs and rims, which are both rather interesting. Starting with the hubs, they’re called BadBoy and are the J-flange version to the slightly lighter and higher POE MadMax straight-pull model. They feature a titanium freehub body and a ratchet mechanism with a special type of spring for perfect load distribution, and as expected of a good modern hub they are super easy to service. Normally available in black only, this set has been custom anodized to match the theme of this bike.

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Titanium freehub body and ratchet system.
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Mirror finish never comes easy.

Laced up with Sapim CX-Ray spokes we then find the Duke Fury Star 6ters rims. I opted for aluminum rims on this bike as I simply like the ride quality when it comes to downhill riding, and of course they’re plenty strong too. 6ters is the name for their concept with front and rear specific rim profiles, to further improve both durability and riding performance. I polished the rims for this build, and while it wasn't an easy choice since I know it would look great with black wheels I just felt that the silver style would just lighten the appearance and give it a bit of personality. After all, looking at bikes today it's a sea of black wheels.

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Silver hubs and spokes, a look I personally hope makes a big comeback.

For tires I went for my all-time favorite gravity thread pattern, the Maxxis Assegai. Here in EXO+ casing with MaxxGrip rubber compound in the front and better rolling MaxxTerra at the rear. Coming in at around 1200g each they’re not the quickest up the hill, but definitely makes the way back down fast and a ton of fun. They’re sealed with Syncros Eco Sealant and the tubeless valves come from Damoff.

Scott Genius ST Concept - 13,60kg / 29.98lbs incl. pedals
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SummaryFirst and foremost, I'm certain that this will be one fun bike to ride. With capable tires, aluminum wheels, great brakes and 150mm/160mm of great performing suspension there are no weak spots really. So I can't wait to hit the trails on it.

When it comes to the integration and looks, I think it turned out quite well. As mentioned above it would be nice with black stanchions for the fork, and I'm also curious to at some point test how the bike looks with black wheels compared to this polished set. The bike is not overly complicated to work on, and you have to remember that the only one who has is myself. So maybe this build can serve as a glimpse of what aesthetics some bikes will have in the future, and hopefully they'll be easy enough to work on by then too.

Speaking of which, come Eurobike in July I'll try and take it to the next level once again by showing a new design for a way more user friendly stealth cockpit system. And there will of course be quite the build to go with it. But before that it's time for a Ransom enduro build next, so keep your eyes open for the in-depth Pinkbike features for those bikes.

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221 Comments
  • 215 5
 No short shorts?!? What is going on here? Is this even a real build?
  • 37 2
 right?! maybe an imposter who can't get away with short shorts... dangleholm?
  • 76 3
 It's still winter over here, but it should be shorts weather by the time of the next build!
  • 9 1
 Maybe he´s getting ready a skinsuit of the same colour as the bike making the combo so raw/clean... but actually just open skin would make the best match/sense here... with just some custom self-adhesive cable/pole guides to not get the thing messed around..
  • 4 5
 afrai to show chicken legs haha
  • 4 22
flag CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme (Mar 12, 2024 at 11:44) (Below Threshold)
 @dangerholm: pls no
  • 18 1
 @CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme: it's ok to look, just don't let your wife catch you.
  • 1 3
 don't tell her.
  • 3 2
 @L0rdTom: she'd love it man
  • 1 2
 been eating a lot of ice cream lately
  • 1 0
 How did a bike build become so synonymous with thighs??
  • 6 0
 @Orthodontist: have you seen them?
  • 3 20
flag CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme (Mar 13, 2024 at 8:43) (Below Threshold)
 @Orthodontist: because he's a narcissistic thot that like to flex in his short ass gay village briefs.
  • 7 2
 @CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme: Dégage d'ici, espèce d'enfoiré de grenouilles à l'esprit mesquin.
  • 3 1
 @CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme: you would too if you had legs of steele.
  • 8 1
 @CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme: His thighs and shorts are living rent free in your mind. It's okay, no need for further over compensated projections of insecure masculinity.
  • 2 5
 @kilgore-trout: How much do you charge for a session?
  • 6 12
flag TokenCanfieldGuy (Mar 14, 2024 at 5:07) (Below Threshold)
 @dangerholm
Trash;
-Those carbon cranks
-God awful shock integrated frame design--ride something original for once, f*ck whatever sponsorship
-1-piece bar/stem, how dare you
-Wireless dropper (additional mass where you really don't want it for descending)
-12sp (trash) carbon system over the lighter weight/less rotational mass/less unsprung mass 11sp
-Saddle choice is garbage--Selle SMP F30c proper anatomical fit
-To strip the black off that rim didn't it require chemical stripping + machine polishing of every mm on those rims? aka you made it weaker.
-Lock collar grips is BIG trash, my brotha
-Maxxis tires (double gut punch on the EXO+ pussywillow casing when things like how much you weigh+how hard you rip come into reality.)

Bro quit foolin, if your tires aren't 1,200g+ then lets be real....you aint rippin, aka this is a showroom bike (and we still somehow love you for it because the thought of your TRT thigh meat is enough for me to crum myself to sleep.)

The hubs look cool, though. Spokes dont sit directly on top of the hub bearings. Not trash.
  • 8 4
 @TokenCanfieldGuy: Let's see you build something even remotely as cool as his project. Or are you too busy to playing Minecraft in your mom's basement?
  • 1 2
 @jbadger1977: 46yo old man dickhead...I absolute will show your old ass and the rest of the world.
Canfield on clock, baby!
  • 1 0
 He probably plays minecraft too looking at his helmet strap lost in his triple chin.
  • 2 1
 @TokenCanfieldGuy: Cool story, troll boy. Come to Trestle for the Air DH and we'll see.
  • 1 0
 @CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme: I got the triple chin because your mom kept making me sandwiches after we smashed.
  • 1 0
 @jbadger1977: I don't think you should confess your necrophilia online.
  • 1 0
 @CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme: Wow. That's all you got, troll? Weak.
  • 1 0
 @jbadger1977: Hell yeah brother. Time to shine
  • 141 19
 Scott has made it their mission to make bikes as maintenance unfriendly as possible. Hide the cables! Hide the shock! Strap an extra cable to the rear shock for marginal gain! So with that ethos in mind, I appreciate that Dangerholm has taken an unfriendly bike to maintain and elevated to to a god-tier clusterfuck of annoyances. Could maybe use some Cushcores in there just to make the tires more of a pain in the ass.
  • 73 11
 Well, what can I say, as a person I never like to half-ass things haha.
While I sort of get this position, I also don't agree that things necessarily are as bad as they're constantly portrayed. And also it's interesting in general how differently people draw the line of what's bad/unnecessary and what isn't. It's like as if it's impossible to understand that a lot of people will find the benefits worth more than the annoyances, like with CushCore for example (just get some good tire mounting gel btw and things will slip on like no big deal).
Luckily, as mentioned in the text above, I think that it'll all be fine in the end as modern bike features will become more user friendly and also that we'll see more traditional options for those who are holding on to those ideas.
  • 29 14
 @dangerholm: It just comes down to form vs. function. Some people (yourself clearly included) give great weight to the aesthetics of a bike. Other people are much more utilitarian. Hidden shocks and hidden cables offer something approaching zero in terms of functional benefit. But they look pretty.


To each their own! Personally, I'm gonna stick with function over form.
  • 50 2
 @toast2266: And I fully respect that! I mean, I enjoy that myself too in a way, as for example with those super light builds that become very much function prioritized (as in weight balanced with performance/durability and then lastly comes form). With time I hope that function and form can be combined in some good ways though!

I guess that I sometimes just wish there was more of a "oh, cool" or "live and let live" mentality between the two camps haha.
  • 5 1
 Preach! Came here to say this myself.
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 @dangerholm: Don't get me wrong - I love to look at bikes like this - they're gorgeous! I'm even good with the color.

I just don't want to own / maintain it. And more broadly, I don't really want to own Scott bikes in general because of the direction they've gone with regard to form over function. But that's certainly just my personal preference.
  • 10 0
 At least with this bike, you know that you're buying a piece of art, which doesn't have to be practical. I'm more annoyed at all the regular bike brands making bikes less maintenance-friendly every iteration.
  • 22 9
 I love how everyone starts acting like they give their bike a full strip down service every week and that cable tourism is going to have a real effect on how much riding they get to do.
  • 9 6
 @L0rdTom: Agreed. If you’re replacing the headset every few months, you have bigger problems than your brake cables.
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 @L0rdTom: my personal gripe with headset routing is that I can't see what's going on inside - I've no idea if something is rubbing on the steerer and suddenly I'll have no brakes. My road bike with (normal) internal routing is an utter PITA - the shifter cables run in these horrid skinny drinking straw things and go round this weird bend under the BB, so changing those is often a 2 beer job
  • 7 4
 @toast2266: dont portray the pinkbike apes as utilitarian. They know 3 things about bikes and two of them are false. Its not About facts (remember the Nicolai Nucleon review? they where not able to count idlers/pulleys and said it was so complicated...(while it is less complicated and more reliable)).
Or remember the Eminent Cycles (most of those who rode them(including reviewers) said they where good but the comments decided they are shit because they did not like the looks). Its just easy upvotes to write something about headset cable rounting, cry about pressfit BBs, count the suspension bearings(ignoring the other bearings) and conclude the amount of effort needed for maintanance, comment of efficency if some idler occurs or a gearbox is used or declare everythig they dont understand as Hype, useless or an cospiricy by the indusrty.
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 @mountainsofsussex: to be fair you won't suddenly have no rear brake, you'd suddenly have a cracked steerer. This is definitely an academic worry though. I only strip down my bike twice a year and can't imagine I wouldn't notice cable wear during cleaning.
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 @L0rdTom: It's not so much that the extra complication of the maintenance is that huge. It's that there's *some* extra complication for *zero* functional benefit. Hiding the cables and hiding the shock offers no practical upside and a number of actual downsides (hidden cable rub, difficulty in adjusting the shock, additional heat build up in the shock, limitations on parts compatibility, etc.). It's very literally making the bike worse in order to make it look better. If that's what you're into, then by all means go for it, but I'm gonna stick with bikes that the manufacturer has not purposefully made worse.
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 @toast2266: hidden shocks are great, keep debris off the wiper. Hard to scratch a shaft when it’s inside the frame. Hard to get dirt driven past the wiper, when dirt can’t get to it. Plus now you get a full uninterrupted front triangle. Fitting a frame bag becomes hardtail easy.

The issue with headset routed cables is that you need to bleed a brake if you have to change a headset bearing or change stem or change stack heights. But usually once those are done, they’re done and majority of people never change a stem anyways. The bearing choice negates the bearing replacement.

I’d love to see people maintain their bikes as much as they claim to, when the chat of integrated cables is brought up.
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 @L0rdTom: that's the kicker... I don't have to as there's no holes in the headset topcsp for cables to pass through
  • 4 0
 Scott is swiss and the Swiss like to hide...
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 @toast2266: don't get me wrong, I personally wouldn't buy any of the current generation of cable tourism as I don't think the execution is that great, but if other people like it that's cool. I'll happily hold out for when it's as good as internally routed frames.
  • 3 1
 I will always maintain when done properly, internal cables are easier and better than external even from a mechanic's perspective.

Tube in tube internal is faster, doesn't take single use zip ties, and makes for a smooth frame surface that protects the cables, doesn't trap mud, and makes the bike way easier to clean. To me this outweighs any convenience gained in the highly unlikely scenario where I would install/remove brakes on a bike without hose trim/bleed.

Even without tube in tube, there are very few bikes I can't route in a few minutes with a good internal routing tool.
  • 2 0
 @bonfire: Bought a new Trek last year, pretty much entirely rebuilt the entire bike twice trying to track down a creak. Ended up being Chris King hubshell. People here talk about stainless bearings not needing replacement, but the cable tourism would drive me nuts as it seems I'm constantly tracking down clicks & creaks (which never turn out to be cable related). Moreover there's simply no benefit to the headset routing other than vanity/aesthetics.
  • 1 0
 @mountainsofsussex: does anyone actually mind drinking two beers while they work on their bike?
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 @Rickadams243: depends if the test ride is in busy traffic! Or if it's on a Tuesday morning...
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 @L0rdTom: Oh, people definitely don't strip down their bikes all the time...
...they give them to the local mechanic to do (also they normally wait till everything is fubarred and then wonder why it costs so much).
Changing headset bearings on a bike with regular routing - 15-30 minutes labour. By adding routing through the headset you've added an hour labour onto that, and 2 brake bleeds. So you're tripling workshop time and costs, which then gets passed on.
You might do yours once per year, but a mechanic will be doing an increasing number each week.
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 @2d-cutout: You must be charging for tea brakes with those times lol. Regardless, most of my customers with nice road and mountain bikes at my old shops would bring their bike in for a 6 month/annual service where we would strip all that down, clean, check for cracks and wear, replace bearings as required and bleed the brakes. So the real extra cost passed on to the customer is zero.
Of course that's not everyone, and cable tourism isn't yet for everyone either, including me.
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 @dangerholm: I just hate the headset routing, having to bleed brakes and replace cables when all you need is a new headset is just dumb
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 No matter how clean this bike looks, this is clearly cable tourism propaganda and I’ll have none of it!
  • 14 5
 Dangerholm does fantastic work and this build is not exception. That said, I'm right on board with your assessment. I know he's sponsored and needs to put a positive spin on it in. Kudos for his diplomatic approach. He has some points because electronics keep pushing their way in regardless if we as experience riders who work on their own bikes want them or not.
  • 20 3
 @bman33: Thank you for your kind words, and well phrased response as well. Actually it's more of a thing with me and Scott being pretty well aligned when it comes to visions and ideas. It's like back in 2021 when I presented my white all-integrated Spark, and then a few months later Scott released the current model with headset cable routing stuff. So we had essentially been working separately on a similar concept, which is an example of why we're a good fit.
Regarding the cable tourism, it's clearly here to stay as so many brands are doing it. What I wanted to say above (except for showing the bike of course) is that even so, there's still hope no matter if you want to stay with the big brands going in this direction or if you want your bikes to have a traditional approach.
Either way, as a bike nerd it's always more fun with discussion like this than just one-liners saying things suck.
  • 5 2
 @dangerholm: Nicely stated. I am in the camp who strongly disapproves of headset cable routing for various ease if maintenance reasons reasons. I appreciate you stating your views. Diplomatically. All that said, I think most of us here are really concerned that there's no blue jean shorts or thigh pics in this article. You've let us down. lol
  • 19 3
 @dangerholm: it may be here to stay for Scott but I'll never buy a bike that routes a hydraulic hose through the middle of a steel cartridge bearing because it's dumb and all the arguments in favour are just marketing BS. Thankfully there are plenty of other brands and bike designers who agree.
  • 10 2
 @TommyNunchuck: Many companies are moving away from it, the previous mega had internal routing, the current model doesn’t, I believe transition have moved away from it too just to make two.

Scott are a bit ‘niche’ and go all in for this ‘clean looks’ thing at the expense of the ability to repair and maintain something intended to be ridden in the mud.
  • 1 0
 Can I just ask what happens with the head-tube cables when you crash and the bars end up spun right round. Better or worse than traditional?
  • 3 1
 @G-Sport: Nothing happens. The bar twists and the cables stay in the headset spacer that they feed through that keeps them safe. You sort out the bars and carry on with your day. I have done this on this bike and it is uneventful.
  • 1 1
 @michaelrobinson: Thank you. So possibly better than conventional setup?
  • 51 5
 Another incredible bike, absolutely beautiful.

I realise it's probably not the main purpose of these builds but have you ever thought about letting one of the Tech Editors here do a mini ride review? I'd be very interested to hear how it feels to ride compared to, say, the new Epic.

Congratulations anyway!
  • 3 8
flag ethanrevitch FL (Mar 12, 2024 at 8:33) (Below Threshold)
 They do mini reviews all the time.
  • 19 1
 Thank you! At some point I definitely hope to do something along the lines of that. Back when I built the "World's Lightest DH" I really thought about it, as I figured it could be a straightforward and cool comparison compared to a stock dh bike with the same tire setup and so on.
I guess we'll see what the future brings!
  • 8 17
flag justanotherusername (Mar 12, 2024 at 9:14) (Below Threshold)
 The purpose of these builds isn’t for anyone to ride the bike, it’s an ornament aside from the possibly one time ‘video ride’
  • 4 2
 I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder...
  • 3 1
 @justanotherusername: Is that what he said? Doesn't sound like it:

"...His bikes are not for showrooms, they are for the trails.
'I’ve seen some light bike building projects that border on pure idiocy. They aren’t actually built to last, which has given this whole weight saving thing a bit of a bad rep over the years. My bikes are made for me to ride and should therefore be able to take abuse out on the trails. Even if my name is not Emil Johansson, I think that after 20 years of riding bikes I’m not completely useless on two wheels', he says and explains that he never compromises on the vital components such as tyres, brakes and wheels."

Sourced from www.redbull.com/se-en/dangerholm-the-story-bike
  • 2 9
flag justanotherusername (Mar 12, 2024 at 12:12) (Below Threshold)
 @gossman: my observation of the bike, nothing to do with what he said, which I don’t agree with.
  • 5 1
 @justanotherusername: @justanotherusername: please enlighten me, why is that? It's a trail bike with 150/160 travel, by all accounts incredible brakes, a 175mm dropper, exo+ maxxis tires. How is that not a bike that can be ridden for its intended purpose? As a bonus, I think such a bike with a weight below 30lbs is a real treat to ride uphill as well, but that weight is not down to skimping on performance parts, but rather using very expensive parts that each bring a bit of weight savings
  • 3 3
 @hardtailpunter: @hardtailpunter: Ride it as intended and parts will wear out and break.

As I said below, say the bar is damaged on a riding trip or at a race, what are you going to do? Say a custom painted part is damaged will you replace it with something that doesn't match at all or custom paint some more parts? What about all of the other custom parts difficult to replace when required, not to mention the ridiculous cost involved in doing so if you aren't getting parts for free as part of sponsorship for doing this as a job which he is?

Its a show bike, a concept, something nice to look at, the rear shock remote and silly front brake hose routing testament to the fact its not been built to ride.
  • 1 0
 @justanotherusername: you break a lot of bike parts I’m guessing… weight saving, performance parts may not mean longer life on the bike; hangers are hangers, but it surely doesn’t mean shorter life/less durable.
  • 3 3
 @gossman: No I don't break a huge amount of parts, but carbon bars don't like damage and these are completely custom including the stem - how would you replace these if required and you didn't have the time to custom modify a set of bars and get them painted to match?

Who mentioned anything about 'hangers'?

As I say, its a show bike for taking to Eurobike and earning from sponsors and social media views.
  • 9 2
 @justanotherusername: Since it's a one-off bike with almost all the custom work made by myself, if some of that stuff brakes it's simply just me who have to make or paint new stuff. The parts are not more expensive than stock, it's just me who has been putting a lot of work hours on them. And while I've never ever broken a handlebar, if it would happen I can of course temporarily replace it with a normal handlebar. All I'd need to do for that would be to bring/use an alternative headset cover and spacers.
Either way it's not like you always can expect to easily fix a bike when traveling, and if that is a big priority (which it is not with this bike) I would've built the bike with that in mind.

Complaining about it being a bit more difficult or expensive to replace parts on a custom painted/built bike, is a bit like complaining about the same topics for a race/bespoke/hyper car or motorcycle. It's just part of the calculation, and it's not a big problem stopping you from actually using the stuff
  • 3 7
flag justanotherusername (Mar 13, 2024 at 5:26) (Below Threshold)
 @dangerholm: You pretty much make my point for me there - for 'normal' people it is a part in the calculation, of course it is - most don't get parts for free and their occupation isn't building custom, form over function bikes for social media content.

Wouldn't you also need new brake hoses as they would be too short to deal with new routing - maybe even fittings as even they are custom? - what about routing the electrical stuff? - No I haven't outright broken a bar, but I have damaged one to the point I wouldn't want to use it further and endanger myself, this can happen even on the uplift truck.

Look forward to seeing the ride report in 2 years time and a few thousand miles of riding.
  • 5 2
 @justanotherusername: Dude he’s not building this bike for you or the mass market average rider. It’s a custom one off for him because he thinks it’s rad and that’s part of what he does for a living. It’s not even like Scott is incorporating this bike into into their lineup. I can’t for the life of me see why you’re arguing marketability in this context. So instead of looking at it and saying to yourself ‘eh not for me’, you’re ragging on the projects he chooses as part of his job/passion? Bruh...
  • 2 1
 @tomfoolerybackground: No argument about marketability, the argument is about usability.

I'm also not arguing about it being a good or bad final result, so I am not 'ragging' on the project like some have here, I am just suggesting that this has entered the area of show bike.
  • 35 3
 Came here for thighs.. disappointed…
  • 22 0
 Like it or not, agree with design or not, I read damn near every word and oogle and oggle every photo when he posts. It's funny that there are so many custom touches and forward thinking concepts and the things I got hung up on most was probably the polished rim builds. With the matching spokes and hubs. I would kill for that omg. Those wheels with that chainring makes it look like an older BMX. And of course the cable routing makes it appear like a brakeless BMX. So rad (even if I'd never want to own it long term)
  • 4 2
 Thanks, really appreciate it. And so much yes in regard to the polished rims and BMX influence. I still remember vividly getting my first set of chrome SunRinglé Rhyno Lite's for a BMX way back, and I really wish we would see more of this on mountain bikes. Not that it'll look good on all bikes, but as an option.
Same with the chainring, inspo came from really old standard/road bike steel chainrings and also of course oldschool BMX style. Happy to see you making the connection.
  • 45 22
 I'm almost always down with a Dangerholm build but the monochramatic paste colour on this one is hideous.
  • 13 0
 I believe this is @bicyclepubes “Shiss”
  • 25 1
 @blissindex: i believe this color is "coffee teeth".
  • 3 1
 It's the "Shaved Flesh" colorway
  • 8 3
 @blissindex: Correct haha, and a fantastic color at that. It's literally the best of two worlds.

@whitebirdfeathers Jokes aside, I knew from the start that this color choice wouldn't be for everyone. I mean, there are times when even I think that maybe I should have went with another color. But in the end it was what I felt like (as it was something new for me) and one should build bikes for yourself.
I think it could look pretty cool to more people though in a dusty environment and black wheels etc. compared to how it's presented here.
  • 10 0
 @dangerholm: It's your bike. Make it as crazy as you like. Cool build regardless.
  • 4 1
 @dangerholm: it looks different, which is a good thing. A long time ago when I was young and poor I painted an old bmx frame with Magnolia emulsion as it was the only paint my dad had in the garage.
  • 3 3
 Engineering - nice. Colour - hold up...gonna puke... Definitely needs some accent colours to make it more palatable.
  • 18 1
 Love the friction shifter for shock adjustment. Old meets new and looks great.
  • 9 3
 It was a lot of fun to do too. I guess that's the good thing about not having unlimited resources (although I'm not complaining), that I often have to find some solution to a project based on existing components and Dremel work. So thanks!
  • 1 0
 @dangerholm: Yeah that thing is looking super clean, long live the friction shifter!
  • 2 0
 @dangerholm: any way we can see the details on this? I’d love to try and make something like that for my bold linkin?
  • 20 9
 For wanting clean lines I would’ve incorporated a pinion gearbox. I wholeheartedly believe that the gearbox is being backburnered by the big 2 so they can keep charging insane prices or their electronic drivetrain shizz. 2¢.
  • 6 7
 Yeah don't try to sell me on clean looking when there is a shitty ass looking rear derailleur hanging off the back of the bike.
  • 10 2
 For me it simply comes down to the drag. After all the time spent on fast XC bikes and so on, there's just something wrong on instinct jumping on a bike with more drivetrain friction than necessary.
But with that said, there are of course many benefits with gearboxes, and for enduro/dh I can definitely see it make a lot of sense on a larger scale.
  • 3 6
 @hohmskullkrishten: dude a gearbox bike will be perfect for those super gnarly Ohio bike parks you ride.
  • 1 3
 A single speed coaster brake build is all you need to have a clean look without cable tourism ah!
  • 4 0
 @birdsandtrees: there's Horns Hill in Ohio, but why would it matter how gnarly the trails are? Gearboxes help in any case with mountain biking, for reliability, maintenance, and suspension performance, regardless how gnarly the terrain is, so what's your problem?
  • 1 3
 @wburnes: this is carryover from them commenting on their dh trails being better than Washington in another article. It’s just funny to find a personal being negative in one article being super crummy in another.

I just think the conspiracy against derailleurs is hilarious, especially coming from people that don’t ride all that much. Never really heard a shredder that rides 3-4K miles of descent oriented trails a year whine about gearboxes.
  • 15 1
 after ferrari red, british racing green, lexus white, now its time for crash test taupe
  • 7 1
 Nice primer, all ready for topcoat!
  • 13 2
 It resembles that typical bike that was stolen and was completely spray painted. Just missing the ivory color on the tires and rims. Almost there!
  • 20 6
 cable tourism propaganda
  • 2 0
 A true master concerning it. But I do not get how this can work:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/26335586
I own two Intend Edges, and they use hose guides, so the hose can move upward in the travel.
How the frickinging h.... should that work here?
The hose being fixed on the upper fork leg?
The hose must flex/bend, a lot, being fixed.
Sorry, don't get it, how it will really work using the travel.
  • 3 0
 @one38: There is a lot of flex in the brake hose of course, but it does work at least on this bike. The hose sort of makes quarter loop/coil like movement outwards/backwards when the fork is compressed.
I'll make some video for Instagram later on!
  • 13 1
 Prosthetic bike.
  • 6 1
 Yep, or a mannequin of a real bike
  • 1 0
 Yes I thought there's something weirdly medical about it too. Not my thing at all, especially with the ugly suspension, but as long as Mr Holm is happy with it that's all that counts.
  • 1 0
 @showmethemountains: compression hosiery for varicose veins, aisle 15

@BenPea: if she catches you, make sure it's on tape
  • 12 0
 lockout switch is dope
  • 11 3
 These bikes are only built for clicks so it's totally irrelevant where the cables and hoses are. For a bike that I'll actually have to ride and live with and fix myself, then I'll have an opinion.
  • 8 11
 Agreed, these are built now for nothing more than sponsor and self promotion.

‘Ah look, a dangerholm topcap’
  • 11 0
 I once had a computer this color.
  • 6 0
 Used to be that riders could attempt moves that would mangle a derailleur or brake lever, and it wasn't a big deal since you could swap an externally routed lever/hose in minutes- and derailleurs were under $100. I'm not going back to riding skinnies, but where are the actual performance benefits of ANY internal routing? Seems like pure vanity to me, form over function.
  • 2 0
 You are absolutely right. I haven't really thought about that.
  • 8 0
 Mmmmm, metal coloured wheels. Nice! Dear rim manufacturers, please stop covering everything in boring black crap
  • 3 0
 I've actually tried to get three different brands to start offering this, but no luck. Either no interest (despite me showing super positive polls with 3000+ replies) or saying that it's not possible. But hopefully it'll catch on at some point, just to have some more options at least.
  • 2 0
 @dangerholm: I wish you well in your honourable quest good sir,
Its strange that the rim sellers with anodising capabilities like hope for instance don’t get them shipped over in a raw condition and add colour at their factory. Some stunning wheelsets could then be built up.
Its metal colours that do it for me though. Raw aluminium, stainless & brass. Droool!
  • 2 0
 @dangerholm: Reverse Components has polished aloy rims, called "black one" (yes, bit irritating): reverse-components.com/en/products/29-black-one
  • 1 0
 @one38: A-ha! I see what they did there.
I bet they’re twice the price of similar black ones
  • 5 0
 I love Dangerholm builds as much a the next geek, so please keep publishing this stuff. But... This one reads a bit much like an advertorial. I totally understand sponsorship is how this sort of thing gets built, but just a slightly more subtle phrasing would have been nicer
  • 6 0
 Many of us still hate internal cable routing, despite internal cable channels, foam liners, easy access service doors, wireless components, good magnet tools and so on.
  • 3 2
 Of course, and many forever will. But at least these things making it somewhat easier to work on perhaps can allow for a different and more easy on the blood pressure kind of hate. Less of the I'll-throw-this-bike-in-the-river-now and more of a steady and ever glowing type of hate haha.
  • 4 0
 I'd counter Mr. Holm's comments surrounding through headset cable routing on mtb's as "here to stay". I actually feel it could already be on the way out. Off the top of my head... Epic/Epic Evo launched yesterday - no cable tourism. Transition adopted and then abandoned it pretty quickly, Trek Slash launched recently with conventional headtube ports. Maybe it's what defines the difference between riders bikes and marketing mishaps in the short to mid-term. Absolutely no question it staying on the road side.
  • 2 1
 A valid point. I guess it comes down a bit to what I mentioned in the article about the timing, and how the components available today doesn't really allow for the systems "full potential". But with more components being wireless or specifically made for internal routing, I think a fair chunk of bikes will feature this - and that the opposite style will be going strong too.
  • 4 0
 Dangerholm, I love reading your words as much as I love your crazy builds. The complete bike does not look complete, I've looked several times and it is, indeed, complete. Minimalist is an understatement.
  • 2 0
 Thanks man, really appreciate it! Both aspects I mean, as not only the bike builds are time consuming but that it always takes me forever to write these features haha.
  • 8 1
 No shorts? Gutted
  • 6 0
 He has chosen sides in the great war
  • 2 0
 Man, this bike looks like someone set a lofty budget, sat me down to take a detailed inventory of all my bike-related preferences... and then built the exact opposite. If someone can point me to an anti-this bike, it should make my next bike purchase a very straightforward process.

But of course, this bike's owner is its target audience so it all works out very neatly Smile
  • 10 4
 Gross
  • 4 0
 The level of obsessiveness is off the charts. For better or worse – I suppose it depends on your perspective.
  • 6 1
 Really cool build with insane detail. Always love a Dangerholm article.
  • 5 0
 Nice one. Always providing us with great good bad ideas!!
  • 2 0
 His builds are so cool. It would be interesting to see what his bikes look like after a year of wear and tear. Do they get touched up, or do they keep their battle scars and are retired after a season of use.
  • 7 7
 You think this will get a ‘season of use’, really?
  • 1 0
 In this future will people be all the same size and have all the same preferences? Because if they keep making us in different sizes we're going to keep needing to try different bars and stems to fit a bike to our different bodies. This kind of internal cable routing would obviously make that a much more difficult process. I'm aware it's already a thing at the sharp end of the road side of the sport where reducing every little bit of aero drag is desirable, but for trail riding that's not a concern.

You mention that people don't complain about internal cable routing in the frame, and that's because we're not swapping frames in and out to tune the bike setup. Once they're in there, they can stay in there. Speaking for my myself though, I very much want to be able to change my bars and stem. I want them to be two separate pieces and I want to tear apart my brake lines to do such a simple thing.
  • 6 0
 that's fugly
  • 2 0
 It is frankly a bit underwhelming ... My IBIS HD3 160/150 is 27 pounds and change with DVO suspension, XTR/XT, Revive seatpost, DT XMC ... all at a minute fraction of the cost of this (failed) exercise in light jewelry ...
  • 1 0
 To the point of headset cable routing, wouldn't it be simpler for the consumer if it were simply a choice when selecting or ordering a bike?
That for any model, you could choose yay or nay? This is assuming the manufacturer even offers it. (Not what I'd want to work on, anyway.)
That being said, I'd ride this bike, or any other of Dangerholm's creations.
  • 1 0
 I hate the full integration Scott has been doing lately, but wouldn't mind it too much on my bike. Working on these on a daily basis, worst offender being the Patron E-Bike, they are deffinitely more work. On regular bikes it's not that bad, but still more work. On my own bike, the extra time wouldn't bother me as much. I'm not often changing cable housings and bearings, so the design doesn't change much for regular maintenance. For bigger jobs, the extra time is not too bad to make it a big annoyance imo.
  • 4 0
 That paint job is like unflavored oatmeal for your eyes.
  • 2 0
 Epic build dude. Love the color. Reminds me of a raw SLA 3D print or Porsche 911. I'm curious, what material did you use to sculpt the reinforcement on the stem/bar?
  • 3 0
 Thanks! And yes, the color is not exactly traditionally nice or "beautiful" but it does make you think and there have been some really cool things painted in similar shades over the years. As for the stem section, I used a carbon-strand(string?) reinforced body filler meant for composite that I found through a car paint supplier. The white stuff on top is then a fine 2k putty/filler I used before the primer.
So far so good, although I'm sure there are better ways to do it to ensure that there are no cosmetic issues down the road as there is some flex in the area etc.
  • 1 0
 @dangerholm: Ah nice. Never heard of that type of filler. Very cool that it's made for composites.
  • 1 0
 @joelmcdavitt: The one I used is called U-POL SMC Carbon Fiber Filler if you ever want to check it out.
  • 1 0
 @joelmcdavitt: it’s likely not structural.
  • 2 0
 @dangerholm Is there a weight listed in this article? I can't seem to find it. Love the concept and looks, but I'd love to know what all of it gets you on the scale!
  • 3 0
 Thanks! Just as a headline above the final photos of the bikes, so it can be easy to miss. The weight is 13,60kg or 29,98lbs, which I must say was a positive surprise as I had zero focus on weight for this build and it's after all equipped with 1200g tires and a 1750g alu wheelset.
  • 1 0
 @dangerholm: Thanks for the reply. I see it in the article now, thanks for being kind about missing it. Awesome build. Would be an absolute shredder everywhere!
  • 1 2
 @dangerholm: A weight only achievable with SRAM components. Amazing on every level.
  • 3 1
 First big hit, the front brake line goes into the front wheel and the rider is ejected over the bars.
...and who picked the color? Yikes.
  • 4 6
 But it looks clean, so what does rideability matter?
  • 1 0
 There is a very simple solution to the problem of headset cable routing: get rid of the headset bearings. Heck, let's just get rid of the headset altogether. It looks cleaner, and it will save you a few grams!
  • 1 1
 Extremely well done, to create a piece of cycling art that represents the simplicity of a "bike" while clearly embracing so many aspects of forward looking tech without it screaming tech. I'd love to ride it to see if it was as good as it looks.
  • 5 0
 Laughable
  • 1 0
 Great job! …you mention black stanchions. Have seen DLC coatings (Diamond-Like-Carbon) in a number of engineering applications. High Rockwell for durability with good inherent lubricity could work well on a fork?
  • 1 0
 That’s what Rockshox, Fox, and numerous other companies use for stanchion coatings.
  • 3 0
 A beautiful piece of highly functional art! Nicely done!
I open the bidding at $1K!
  • 3 3
 A few years ago when Scott had a rat nest of cables up front people hated it. Me included. Now they have cleaned it all up, the haters still hate. Same haters, diffrent haters? Not sure.
Either way, the production Genius ST is made for the consumer and is not that close to this build. The wining on about internal cable rub and why would I hide the shock is kind of dumb if you want everything external you have lots of options. I would not get a bike with external cables anymore as I think they look ugly and it is now unnecessary.
To the form-over-function point, it functions amazingly, so while there is no gain really for an internal shock or cables there certainly is no loss of function. I don't think at any point Scott thought that putting cables through the stem would increase function. It was just to clean up the front end, development, and evolution. I love the clean look.
It comes with all the cables routed in the frame so what is all this about added maintenance? Is everyone out there changing their headset bearings that often? Doubtful. And if you are you may want to look at your cleaning methods, powerwash?
After a year on the 2023 ST I have washed it and changed brake pads. Stunningly my headset is still in great condition.
The one downside for me is I prefer a lower position in the cockpit. By removing spacers and lowering the stack height I expose the steerer tube and have that popping out of the one-piece stem bar combo. For e-sale I am not willing to trim it so i have to live with it.
  • 1 0
 Just being completely out of sync with the aesthetic here, but what is the deal with Intend forks when you want to run a mudguard? Just don't, or do they make goofy ones up high like a dirt bike?
  • 1 0
 @grotesquesque: They make one and it's about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
  • 1 0
 @commental: Chocolate teapot, never heard this one before. I love it
  • 4 0
 Can't get enough of that prosthetic limb yellow paint finish.
  • 2 0
 Those calliper and rotor bolts look nice, but I can imagine them not clearing the fork lowers on most forks, especially on a boost hub/fork!
  • 3 1
 This looks fake, like AI or a toy or some shit. Like the fingerboard of the mtb world. Dangerous Doug is out of control.
  • 7 0
 My next bike will be a virtual Meta avatar bike thing called the Scott Skynet.
  • 2 0
 @dangerholm: I bet it will have cables routing through the handlebar/stem/headset/bottom bracket
  • 2 3
 Remote like the idea.but the reach down is to far making it a bit dangerous.super
easy to go off line..I am using a stick to shift my front triple on my gravel bike to lazy to put a sifter n derailer on.its easy to push chain on
But wouldn't recommend for trail.just saying‍
  • 2 0
 Please swap that old silver shifter to a Sram Tri Dork 10spd bar end shifter!
  • 1 0
 How many bikes does this dude have and which ones does he ride the most? Would be interesting to see his entire collection. DH is like the Magnus Walker of mountain bikes.
  • 5 1
 Yawn.
  • 2 0
 Looks like a bamboo or wooden or cardboard artefact. Redundant job anyway. No more surprises.
  • 1 0
 Somehow this bike gets me to think about the music video for "Boycycle" by Salvatore Ganacci.

youtu.be/UZEFNHod_DU?si=RNd-TnZGL6qmdSq0
  • 2 0
 yummm. hungry for pancakes now
  • 3 0
 The Banquet Bike
  • 1 0
 Did Trickstuff make you an ul 203 rotor just for you?

As they have been 180 and under forever
  • 2 0
 They have a 203 version now. I have them as well, awesome rotors
  • 1 0
 Looks like some equipment you'd see in a surgery theater...or a dentist's office.
  • 1 0
 EDIT: Just so I don't come off as negative, I think it's a neat build. More content of every stripe is not a bad thing.
  • 2 1
 Respect to @dangerholm for getting stuck in with the commenters on cable routing. Brave soul
  • 1 0
 Good to see that Syncros has a presence overseas, they been around since I started riding.
  • 2 0
 Do German taxis have internal cable routing?
  • 2 0
 wanna see one of DH's builds covered in sh&t
  • 2 1
 This is not a bike. This is an art form. If I had one, it would only spend time displayed in my living room.
  • 1 0
 All this work, and the seat post is a reverb Frown

Amazing work as always though!
  • 2 0
 Loic Bruni called. He wants his Butter Back
  • 1 1
 If headset cable routing is the price to pay for a look this clean, then I would pay gladly. I have been converted to a cable tourist for this build at least.
  • 1 0
 Question: how ling does that bike last with me at 97kg ready to ride on board ????
  • 1 0
 ...but where are the jorts?
  • 2 0
 Ken doll
  • 1 0
 Gotta go buy a couple pairs of nesting doll sunglasses. BRB
  • 2 1
 I've seen the future! Dang... guy has skillz!
  • 2 1
 Man this looks like a some dictators bike, god damn
  • 1 0
 So cable tourism is an holistic approach ? xd
  • 1 0
 Totally missed his opportunity to use a Sturmey 3 speed shifter....
  • 1 0
 Have you tried standing on that derailleur yet?
  • 2 1
 Kinda what I expect to be hanging off the back of a tesla cyber truck.
  • 1 0
 Thanks for having centered that Scott logo on the heatube...Amen
  • 1 0
 How long did it take you to polish the rims, any finishment used?
  • 1 0
 I Cannondale back?
  • 1 1
 bring back a revised geo raleigh vector 29er
  • 2 2
 This esthetic is purely gated community
  • 1 2
 This bike is flipping amazing. the best parts are all the parts and the bestest part is the lockout switch.
  • 1 1
 Where are the tan walled tires?
  • 1 2
 welp, my life sucks
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 No, it does not.
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 Is content becoming so scarce that this clown gets a monthly feature?
  • 6 1
 What have you built?
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