Check Out: 16 New Hardtails for 2020

Jul 21, 2020 at 16:24
by Daniel Sapp  



Whether it's riders looking for a budget friendly alternative to more costly full-suspension bikes, something that takes a bit less mantainence, or a change of pace from pointing and plowing down the trail with no speed limit, hardtails are a wonderful choice for a full-time ride or for an extra option in the stable. There are a ton of great hardtails on the market right now, and a number that have made a debut in recent months. Here are a few that we've noticed.





Voodoo Bizango Carbon

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Features

• 29"
• Full carbon frame
• 67-deg HTA w/120mm fork, 425mm CS
• 12-speed SRAM SX Eagle drivetrain
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• Available as a complete bike only
• £1000 (Complete)
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bigquotesVoodoo have become known for well-performing budget hardtails and have now released a new affordable option at Halfords that offers a full carbon 29" bike for only £1000. The Voodoo Bizango Carbon has a full carbon fiber frame and has a decent spec sheet to match. Voodoo still have their 853 Reynolds bikes available as well.




Canfield Nimble 9

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Features

• 29", 27.5"+ compatible
• Chromoly 4130 frame
• 66-deg HTA w/150mm fork, 417mm-433mm CS
• Max tire clearance: 2.8"
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• Available as a frame only or with a fork
• $799.99 USD (Frame Only)
canfieldbikes.com


bigquotesCanfield have been at the forefront of progressive hardtails for some time now. Their bikes such as the Yelli Screamy have pushed the limits with short chainstays and excellent handling. The latest Nimble 9 has short chainstays and a long reach to keep in line with modern trends. The bike also fits droppers better with a shorter seat tube and the bike has stiffer chainstay yokes to keep riders happy up, down, and through the turns.




Nordest Cycles Bardino 2

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Features

• 29" or 27.5"
• 4130 Chromoly steel
• 64.5-deg HTA w/160mm fork, 425mm CS
• 75-deg STA
• Sizing: M, ML, XL
• 29 x 2.8" or 27.5 x 3" tire clearance
• Frame Only - €599 (≈$664)
nordestcycles.com


bigquotesNordest Cycles are a small brand based out of the Canary Islands and produce hardtails for almost all eventualities from gravel and bike-packing to enduro racing. They make their frames out of either titanium or chromoly steel and a few of their frames even include gearboxes. The Bardino 2 is designed around a 160mm fork and has replaceable thru-axle dropouts along with three water bottle cage mounts. There are several standard paint color options but you can also do custom colors for an upcharge.




Sage Titanium Powerline 29er

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Features

• 29"
• Titanium frame
• 67.5-deg HTA with a 130mm fork
• Max tire clearance: 2.5"
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• Made in the USA
• $3,100 USD (Frame Only)
sagetitanium.com


bigquotesSage's Powerline bike is made to be versatile, handling everything from XC to more aggressive trail riding. The bike has several unique features such as their patented CCS Cable Clip System. The bike has room for three bottle cages and up to a 34-tooth chainring. Chainstays sit at 430mm and the reach of the bike is 436mm on a size medium.




Ragley Big Wig Race

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Features

• 29"
• 4130 Chromoly frame
• 65-deg HTA w/140mm fork, 435mm CS
• Shimano SLX drivetrain
• Sizing: M, L, XL
• Available as a complete bike or as a frame only
• £2,199 (Complete)
ragleybikes.com/


bigquotesThe Big Wig Race puts a spin on Ragley's Big Wig bike by changing up a few parts for a nominal upcharge in price. These Race specs have been given an extra 10mm of travel and an upgrade to Lyrik forks to boost the front end stiffness. Other changes include downhill tires, four-pot brakes front and rear, and a Shimano SLX 12 speed drivetrain. These new spec options were inspired by custom builds the brand had seen on social media, showing there was an appetite for even more aggressive options.




Why Cycles Wayward V2

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Features

• 29"
• Titanium - Grade 9
• 66-deg HTA w/120mm fork, 440mm-455mm CS
• Max tire clearance: 29"x3.0"
• Sizing: M, L, XL
• Fender and rack mounts
• $2,449 USD (Frame Only)
whycycles.com


bigquotesWhy Cycles are known for their titanium hardtails. The Wayward V2 is Why's adventure bike. Kitted out with copious amounts of water bottle, frame bag, and fender mounts, the bike is designed to be ridden for long distances with gear. Chainstay lengths are longer than what's found on many hardtails to keep the bike comfortable and handling well with larger 29" x 3.0" tires. The Wayward V2 is available as a frame only and as a complete bike.




T-Lab Phenom

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Features

• 29" or 27.5"
• Titanium
• 65 or 66-degree HTA
• 75 or 76-degree STA
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• Made to order to rider specs.
• Frames start at $3,500 USD
t-lab-bikes.com


bigquotesMontreal based T-Lab launched their first moutain bike model, the Phenom a few months back. The bike is based on a proprietary cold worked method that allows for a radically shaped titanium profile that doesn't compromise the properties of titanium. Medium sized frames weigh 1,800g and bikes have a unique Versa-T dropout that is made to be adaptable, allowing two different BB drop settings, one for 27.5" wheels and one for 29". Chainstay lengths can be moved from 411 to 438mm and the bike can also be set up as a single speed.




Moots Womble

Moots Womble

Moots Womble
Moots Womble

Features

• 29"
• Titanium frame
• 67.1-deg HTA with a 140mm fork at 25% sag
• Max tire clearance: 2.6"
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 450mm reach (size medium)
• $3.625 USD (Frame Only)
moots.com


bigquotesMoots are a name synonymous with titanium hardtails and also for creating some of the cleanest frames out there for road, gravel, MTB and generally just sitting back and admiring. But they are riders too, and probably advocate that you spend equal amounts of time riding as well as looking at their frames. And to up the amount of riding they offer to the more aggressive MTB crowd, they have come out with the Womble. It may not be a full "hardcore" hardtail, but we're still excited to see a brand like Moots producing a ~66° (unsagged) headtube-angle bike designed around a 140mm fork.

We've been spending some time on a Womble and will post up some ride impressions soon.




GT Zaskar LT

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Features

• 29"
• Alloy
• 66-degree HTA 450mm CS
• 75-deg STA
• Sizing: M, ML, XL
• Elite and Expert models
• £999 / €1,199
gtbicycles.com


bigquotesThe Zaskar's long and storied history makes it the only bike to have won World Cups in Downhill, XC, slalom, and trials. This latest iteration retains the iconic Triple Triangle design but utilizes it in a more aggressive, long travel package.

Despite similarities at first glance, the LT model is not simply an up forked version of the current generation Zaskar but was designed from the ground up around a 130mm fork with more aggressive geo to match. The new bike also incorporates floating seatstays that GT claims offer 50% more vertical compliance when compared to a traditional double-diamond frame.




Specialized Rockhopper

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Features

• 27.5" or 29" - depending on size
• Aluminum frame
• 68-degree HTA
• 445mm reach on size L
• Sizing: XS, S, M, L, XL, XXL (not all sizes available in all markets/models)
• Five models
• £379/ $500 / €500 - £899 / $1125 / €1200
specialized.com


bigquotesFor many riders, their first 'proper' mountain bike was a Specialized Rockhopper hardtail. It has been an entry-level fixture in the brand's line up since 1985 and has brought thousands of riders into the sport as a simple, value offering for novice riders. For 2021, Specialized is updating the hardtail with a new frame that brings it more in line with modern trends and geometries. Updates include a lighter weight, new geometry, internal cable routing, a threaded bottom bracket, and dropper post compatibility. Recognizing this bike may be used in the city as much as on the trails, Specialized have also added stealth rack and stand mounts too.




Cotic BFeMAX

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Features

• 29"
• 2.6" max tire size
• 65-deg HTA w/140mm fork, 64-deg HTA w/160mm fork, 444mm CS
• 74.5-deg STA w/140mm fork, 73.5-deg STA w/160mm fork
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 461mm reach w/140mm fork, 450mm reach w/160mm fork (size medium)
• £549 / approx EUR630 / approx US$623 (Frame)
cotic.co.uk/


bigquotesThe BFe (pronounced Beefy) has a long and storied history at Cotic, first being introduced in 2005. Designed with 140mm forks in mind, but capable of running up to a 160mm fork, the bike is versatile. There's enough room for 2.6” tires and still space for mud. The bike is available as a frame only or as a complete.




Commencal Meta HT AM

2021 Meta HT AM

2021 Meta HT AM
2021 Meta HT AM

Features

• 29" or 27.5"
• Alloy
• 65-deg HTA
• 74-deg STA
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• Complete and frame only options
• 1,199 € / $1,199 USD - 2,149 € / $2,199 USD (Complete build prices)
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bigquotesCommencal calls their Meta HT AM the most versatile bike in their entire range. The new bike has a lowered seat tube for longer travel dropper posts. There is room for a 150mm or 160mm travel fork and the frame allows both 27.5" and 29" wheels. The Meta HT AM is available in four different builds or as a frame only.




Pipedream Moxie Ti

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Features

• 29" or 27.5"
• Titanium
• 64-degree HTA, 425-441mm CS
• 77.5-degree STA
• Sizing: Long, Longer
• Limited edition, 24 total
• £1749
pipedreamcycles.com


bigquotesUK based bike brand Pipedream has announced a limited edition titanium version of their Moxie hardtail that will be limited to just 24 frames. The frame will share the geometry of the new MK3 version of the standard Moxie bike, but it also features a new custom-butted tubeset using an ovalised downtube and top tube. Pipedream says their mission with the updated MK3 Moxie was to "create the most aesthetically beautiful and highest performance steel and titanium bicycle frames."

Pipedream is making just 24 titanium Moxies (twelve in each size) and they are taking pre-orders now with a down payment of £750. The remaining £999 will be taken before the frame is ready to ship which is set for September. At this point, there are 20 frames left.




BH Ultimate RC

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Features

• 29"
• Carbon frame
• 68-deg HTA (medium)
• 74-deg STA (medium)
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• Four build options (custom paint + €300)
• €1700 - €2900 (complete)
bhbikes.com


bigquotesBH's new Ultimate RC hardtail uses the same geometry and look of its more expensive sibling, the Ultimate Evo, but by uses a different carbon layup that allows BH to significantly reduce the price. Whereas the more expensive Evo models have a claimed frame weight of just 840g the RC is still able to come in at a still-reasonable weight of 1050g for a size medium. While the frames' carbon layup may differ from BH's more expensive offering, the World Cup-tested geometry stays the same. The Ultimate RC features a 68° head angle when using a 100mm fork and it gets short 420mm chainstays.




Orbea Alma

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Features

• 29"
• Carbon frame
• 68-deg HTA, 430mm CS
• 74.5-deg STA (medium)
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 830g frame / OMX
• $1,099 USD (Alma H30) - $7,999 USD (Alma M-LTD)
orbea.com


bigquotesOrbea now have three different frame constructions in the Alma line. The top-of-the-line OMX, the OMR, and a hydroformed aluminum option. The new OMX frame uses a blend of high modulus fibers in a unique layup that allow Orbea to tune the weight and stiffness for each size. That weight comes in at 830g for a size medium. The OMR frame is also carbon and uses a more standard layup and weighs 1,100g. The hydroformed aluminum frame utilizes tubes of varying thickness and shape to net a weight of 1,650g in size medium.




Yeti 35th Anniversary ARC Limited Edition

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Features

• 29"
• Carbon frame
• 67-deg HTA (medium)
• 76-deg STA (medium)
• Sizing: S, M, L, XL
• 2.82 lb frame / 24.58 lb complete
• $9,900 (complete)
yeticycles.com


bigquotesYeti are doing a limited run of 100 of their 35th anniversary ARC bike. The ARC has been in Yeti's line for years, first utilizing ProTaper tubing and later, in carbon. The new hardtail carries over much of the vibe of the original bike, including custom color-matched parts which give it a 90's throwback vibe.






278 Comments

  • 100 0
 After riding carbon wonder bikes for many years I recently built up a Banshee Paradox V3. Aggressive hard tails are super capable and I've been just as fast on most of my trails. The biggest surprise I've had is the rear braking on a hardtail. It has a tendency to break traction easily on more loose surfaces, which while super fun, requires a bit more modulation. If you are bored and want a new riding challenge, do it.
  • 42 1
 I recently installed a hard-compound minion on my full-sus for the same traction breaking experience. It's terrifying!
  • 63 1
 Definitely do it if you've got too much control over your life and need some shaky oversteer to spice it all up.
  • 3 1
 @mmoon: I have a hard compound minion on my HT and it's the best way to move the bike when going fast. Softer compunds may difficult this because they brake instead of skidding. Maybe the large chainstays on my bike make it more useful. Was talking about the rear wheel btw
  • 6 0
 Having been on a Transition Throttle(carbon hardtail) for the last few years and a steel hardtail before that, it's hard to justify going back to a heavier bike. Gain the advantage of light weight, but still have as much descending fun as any of the above. I'd like to see more carbon. JMO.
  • 26 0
 I just pump my tires up to 50 psi. It makes everything harder.
  • 7 0
 Added a steel hard tail to my quiver in 2014 after over a decade of riding duallys (started on a hard tail), and I haven't turned back. Improved geo and supension over the years just makes them better, like everything else in the sport. It makes a delightful contrast to the dually trail bike and DH bike.
  • 3 1
 The rear traction loss is wild sometimes. I run DHF MaxxTerra EXO casing 2.6wt on 36mm rims and its great at speed but on super steeps the rear end is wild ride. I can only imagine how much extra braking force is going through the fork on my hardtail vs my fully. Thank God I have DVO Onyx now. The Pike was flexy wet noodle.
  • 3 0
 Did the same, they're superb bikes and I'm loving every second on mine. Those drop outs are beautiful.
  • 1 0
 I just picked up a trek 69er and it has a duck 32 fork. I feel like in some ways I'm relearning the sport, but it's the joy of learning the sport all over again. I love it. That being said, I'm already looking at different ways to mod the 69er. I have it set up single speed with a QR release rear wheel. I can't help but wonder if there's a way to get a through axle with a 650B rear wheel.
  • 1 0
 @taletotell: Almost certainly not in regards to a 27.5, but if you want to go with through axle, then a few to several hundred dollars to a machine shop will make it happen..\

That said, it's a hardtail, so how much more stiffness are you gonna get with a thru axle? I know, discs and all...
  • 1 0
 @mmoon: I tried doing the super soft front, hard compound rear last year on my DH bike, thinking it would terrify me and just be a sketchy beast. But man, I couldn't believe how much I liked it! It totally changed the cornering characteristics of the bike; It no longer felt under steer prone... if anything, actually, it felt balanced in everything but very wet rock slabs/roots, where it was a small bias for over steer. On top of that, it rolled faster and had more even wear. I only go back for racing now, where I"ll put a soft rear on (but still harder than the front) for better braking.
  • 1 0
 @hllclmbr: I'm hoping somebody already makes some dropouts that fit it
  • 5 0
 Haha I just took my 26” mystery ti bike for a ride last night. I recently swapped out my 10yr old 4 finger power juicy5 to some guides, and now I’m thinking holy crap the rear end never touches the ground much in braking because it’s constantly breaking loose! Holy crap does my 41 year old body not like descending on a hardtail anymore. I did half a season in whistler on an ex rental kona steel frame after I cracked my dually frame. Now an hour on my hardtail, reminds me how soft I have become on my carbon wonder sled.
  • 5 1
 @Honda750: yep. Ten years ago at 38, after 20 years of riding ht's, I told myself it was time for a dual. Every time I've ridden a ht since it just feels like an unnecessary beating. What's more, it doesn't feel like a fun change of pace like some people say. It's a sacrifice. Can't go as fast nor hit as big of features (relative to ourselves). Granted, if I had flowy, mellow stuff, or jump parks as my local, I might sing a different tune. But I don't.

However that zaskar brings back great memories, but I'd have to go with that sexy sage, or the Canfield these days. They make badass rigs.
  • 1 0
 1 day to late for that! Going to try a tire insert with a Conti Baron on the rear for my Transition TransAM to ride lower pressures. :-D
  • 1 0
 Yes, when this happens I know I forgot to open the rear shock :-)
  • 1 0
 @ranke: Same re- the Zaskar. But also same re- the tired body that says no to that sort of fun. HT for pump track, FS for mountain survival.
  • 6 0
 I'd take a Paradox V3 over any of these bikes anyday. Have to give props to Cotic for building a hardcore hardtail out of Reynolds 853 though, very cool.
  • 1 0
 @agnostic: what Pike did you have?
  • 2 0
 Yep been riding my HT as well and it is a hoot. I also noticed the rear braking situation which adds to the fun. It does take a few rides to settle into it but after you do it's a ton of fun.
  • 3 0
 @SoddenDeath: hardtail party reviewed the BFE and said it was as good as his paradox, if not better- absolutely blown away by it
  • 2 0
 @taletotell: Yes! Look up a DT Swiss 9MM thru axle.

I had an old Kona Coiler designed for 9mm quick release wheels, but was able to add a DT swiss 9mm thru axle and an old Saint hub.

I know it doesn't look like it, but these fit through quick release frames.

www.dtswiss.com/en/components/hubs-and-rws/rws/9-mm
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 @taletotell: usually can fit a 135x10 hub and through axle into QR dropouts
  • 1 0
 Yes with my Stans Arch EX wheels (and hubs at the time) I've converted front and rear QR to Thru-Bolt using the DT Swiss bolt skewer and it makes a huge difference on rear of my QR FS. My alu HT it's so rigid I don't notice it as much but I would always do it if your frame is QR and hubs support it.

Interestingly I have an old 1999-ish Spec' FSR that was QR but it was 10mm thru QR. Never understood why QR didn't go that route, Spec' was ahead of the times with that setup.
  • 2 0
 @zephxiii: aren't all old rear QR axles 10 mm?
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: Yeah but with 10mm drop out end caps and a thin 5mm QR skewer. This conversion changes it to a 10mm thick skewer all the way through, and my FSR had that from the factory.
  • 1 0
 @taletotell: I've used a 26" 135x12 to 10mm on QR dropouts with a Reverse Components axle. Problem Solvers might also have what you need.
  • 1 0
 @SoddenDeath: I had the 2018 Pike RC.
  • 33 1
 That Ragley, then that Cotic, just cool as f**k. Like watching Paul Weller chilling at a bar whilst the world around him is going mad- effortless style
  • 6 0
 And there is the Curtis AM7. Ive got one brought the frame with clear coat and built it up. www.curtisbikes.co.uk/frames/curtis-am7
  • 1 0
 @psldix: and the ribble!! phwoar
  • 1 0
 Don't like the look of the headtube welds on that Ragley...
  • 1 0
 @psldix: that Curtis looks preeeeetty sweet.
  • 2 0
 Paul Weller at a bar, what a reference!
  • 1 0
 @SoddenDeath: All the Curtis stuff looks amazing.
  • 32 0
 I just wanna Chromag Rootdown.
  • 4 1
 I'm currently waiting for my frame to arrive.
  • 5 1
 Built this Samurai for my riding buddy. He loves it. Craigslist frame and online sale parts for 1700.
www.pinkbike.com/photo/16866008
  • 1 0
 @whitebirdfeathers: when did you order it and what size? I wanted an M/L but none in stock in any colour last time I checked.
  • 2 0
 @eh-steve: I ordered a large Rootdown in black about a month and a half ago. There’s a batch arriving at the end of the month. They said it’s the busiest they have ever been.
  • 1 0
 @whitebirdfeathers: thanks, yeah they are short in a few things for sure.

How tall are you, at 5'11" I could do M/L or L. Reach is similar to my full sus on the M/L. Anyhow, have fun with the build. I miss having a hardtail.
  • 2 0
 @eh-steve: I’m 6’ and went with the large. That was based in talking to a couple people of similar height.
  • 1 0
 Waiting for the next paint job to get my Primer! Woot!
  • 2 0
 Love my Surface Ti. #chromagforlife
  • 3 0
 Digging my Stylus.
  • 2 0
 I have one and love it. Going on my third full season with it. I got rid of my carbon bike after I realized I hadn't ridden it in a full season. My only complaint is weight, but some of that is on me since I did sort of a budget build kit on it, it could stand to loose a kilo or so.
  • 2 0
 @eh-steve: at 5'10" I ride a M/L very comfortably. The seat tube is longish (47cm to the top) and with a 29" inseam (I got stubby legs) my 150 dropper is only sitting about 20mm above the collar, so unless I got a dropper with a smaller top seal head, I'm limited to the 150mm. Of course any more dropper would be useless since my seat is basically on the post clamp when it's down all the way.

I'm using a 50mm stem with 765mm bars and with my longish torso/arms for my height it works really well.

I'm using a MRP Ribbon set to 150mm, which is in the middle of the 140-160 suggested fork range. I tend to run a little less sag then is usually recommend, so it probably feels pretty similar to the 160 fork at race sag.

Bike is stiff and feels great. I thought it'd be a system shock to go from carbon back to steel, but honestly the bike rides so nice that I don't miss the extra stiffness of the carbon. External routing and full length housings make it a snap to work on. Ian at Chromag didn't have any issues with me adding additional bottle bosses on the seat tube, and said he wouldn't argue a warranty claim as long as the frame didn't fail at the new bosses.

To be fair I've only delt with Ian or Seb at Chromag, but those guys have been super easy to get ahold of and have taken great care of me.

Its nice to be at the trailhead with a bike that no one else has for once. After years of riding Gary Fishers and Treks, which have all been great bikes, but common, I like being there on something different.

If Chromag showed up with a good susser, I'd probably buy it tomorrow to have a two bike quiver again, but for now I'm so happy with my Rootdown, I won't consider adding another bike.

One additional step I took was using Frame Saver to coat the frame internally.
  • 2 0
 I've got a 2018 chromag rootdown as my only bike. I love it, but man do my feet and calves hurt after a rooty descent.
  • 5 0
 I can't believe that there could be a hardtail rundown without a Chromag in it. Seems like a fail to me.
  • 2 0
 @NWBasser: I think these are all new for 2020 bikes
  • 1 0
 @unrooted: True enough. It still seems weird to have a hardtail summary without one. Even though I own a Ragley, I always think of Chromag first when someone mentions hardtails.
  • 2 0
 @unrooted: do updates not count? They did a 2020 rootdown. It's not the same as the 2019.

"In it's 5th revision, the Rootdown has undergone only a few updates for 2020. We have increased the reach and dropped the seat tube length across all sizes, but other than that it remains largely unchanged. If it ain't broke..."
  • 1 0
 @eh-steve: I dunno, I didn’t write the article.
  • 38 15
 I really love the simplicity and purity of hard tails, but isn’t the point and design supposed to put them in a cheaper category? $3600 for a frame and $10K for a complete bike? What is happening right now?
  • 4 0
 If they all cost that much, that would suck.
  • 57 2
 I've noticed many are missing this point. While some people buy a hardtail solely because it is cheaper, others will buy a hardtail even though they have the cash to afford a very good full suspension bike. Some riders just prefer the direct terrain feedback, overall fun and playfulness a good hardtail provides. Hardtails are also much more rewarding when it comes to clearing technical sections. Would I be offered to ride any bike I want, I would still stick to my hardtail any day. I'm not saying a hardtail is intrinsically better or worse than a full suspension bike as they are two different machines, each one getting the job done in their own way. For those who get it though, the fun factor of a good aggro hardtail is simply unmatched.
  • 6 2
 Ibis DV9. $999 carbon frame. One of the best bikes I've ever owned.
  • 6 0
 The materials cost is higher for titanium and carbon, but a lot of these are also not manufactured in Asia, which results in a higher cost.

I've owned three high end steel hardtails, all REEBs, and it was worth it when the frames were ~$1600 price point. They were lighter and more compliant than comparable mass produced alternatives. That said, they've since jacked up the price to $2100 for frame only in steel, which means their ti offering is closer to those in this listing. There is no way I'd pay that for a frame only, so they've priced me out sadly. That's the point where the benefit starts to fade and I'd rather put the extra $$ into better wheels or components instead of the frame.
  • 22 0
 The Nukeproof Scout is $399 USD for the frame and available in both 27.5 and 29... that would have been a nice addition here for the cost conscious category.
  • 2 0
 Hardtails are quite versatile so (depending on how many other bikes you have obviously) you can end up riding them loads. Which makes them more than worth it. If one just a tad better makes you happier, why not? I paid a bit more for custom geometry, my favorite color, I see no reason to keep it for well over a decade. Heck, I can't imagine ever parting with it. It doesn't go creaky (or at least nothing frame specific) so yeah it seems like a good investment. A full suspension bike on the other hand. A big part of the money goes into the development of the suspension design. Which a couple of years later, they have a better version of. And then you're dealing with recurring costs of the shock, bearings etc.

But yeah I get that rear suspension does have some advantages that a hardtail lacks so it may all be worth it. Silly enough, last weekend I noticed that when rolling with others on full suspension bikes (Starling, Santa Cruz, Cannondale) I was going the same pace gently pumping and coasting whilst they were pedaling. I don't question their skill though of course they may not have same urge to pump the bike over the terrain. But it got me wondering, do full suspension bikes respond worse to pumping than hardtail bikes do? If so, then that could be a huge advantage of hardtails. I don't care too much about the pedaling efficiency but I do care about pumping the bike. I have to add I'm running 26" wheels and their wheels were bigger, could have been a factor too.
  • 2 1
 Ragley also sells their bikes in Alu for a lot less. € 1000 for a resonably specced bike. Love the steel Cotic better though......
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 I ride a hardtail by choice not because it can be a cheaper option. That said 3600 USD for a frame! Better have a gearbox attached to it for that coin!
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 Vassago Verhauen $1299 US-made steel hardtail frame with decent modern HT geo. I have an older version set up as SS and am tempted to upgrade. Haven't seen any reviews of a Vassago in ages, but very worth a look.
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 @gomeeker: Agreed. I really like mine. With a 130mm fork and Aggressor tires, it's a beast.
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 @gomeeker: Just needs a little better geo not from 2005.
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 @gomeeker: I’m an Ibis fan but IME the DV9’s outdated geo doesn’t ride nearly as well as the modern HT bikes like the Ragley on this list. But just a matter of time before Ibis slackens the HA by 2 degrees and increases reach by 25 mm.
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 @frorider2: Well, with a 130mm fork, the HA is just under 67 and it just rips up and down. I'm a demo junkie and have ridden lots of modern bikes, but I don't feel like it gives up anything. Depends on the terrain perhaps. but I don't live in BC...
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 That moots is like a country club membership.

Will they use it that often? No.

Can they flex on the peasants and appreciate it the times thry do use it? Yes.
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 Many of them run smaller series or a even limited like the Yeti. Or hand crafted. All this drives price up.
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 @vinay: Hardtails are way more efficient at pumping than fs. Ever ridden a fs bike at a pumptrack? It's a huge difference compared to a hardtail.
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 @thinkbike: very underrated frame too...and more $$ left over for a sick build spec!
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 @ibishreddin: flexin' on the plebs
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 @Barkit: Well said. It's not about measurable performance, it's about feel. Sometimes it hurts though, you know it's a good time to back off then Smile
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 @dennis72: I have a cheap Ragley that's far more fun than I ever would have expected.
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 @bressti: Is it truly? Seems to me that would be a massive downside of full suspension bikes then. I feel pumping is a far more fun and elegant way of propelling a bike so if that would be inherent and all you're getting is more "passive conservation of speed" it doesn't quite win it for me. Maybe aggressive damping (like climb settings) might make up for it?
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 You forgot the Nukeproof Scout!!! Awesome HT
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 One guy I'm riding with has one. Looks like a super fun bike!
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 If anyone reading this is on the fence about buying a quality hardtail...stop holding yourself back and do it. Nothing but good things come from adding a hardtail to your quiver.
  • 10 0
 Surprised the NS Eccentric Cromo didn’t make the list. I’ve had got one and love it. I’ve upgraded everything but the seat, dropper and drivetrain but it ripped right outta the box.

nsbikeusa.com/collections/eccentric/products/eccentric-cromo-29
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 I'm salty it's not on the list, I love mine! It feels like a trail worthy dirt jumper.
  • 2 0
 I have a steel 27.5 version (2016) and I love that thing. Its faster than my warden C on all but the gnarliest trails in Pisgah
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 @4thflowkage: it's a rad bike but not new for 2020 like the other bikes on this list. A buddy of ours has an Eccentric 29 and is loving it (aside from the long-ish seat-tube).
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 @brianpark: I love mine but I do feel like my seat is tryna ram it’s way up my arse even when it’s slammed it’s a long seat tube.
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 I built a Ragley Big Al (Aluminium version of the Big Wig) this spring, and it has been way too much fun. I think the frame was $450 shipped, and is built with 4 piston brakes, a 160 mm Yari, and fast rolling thick casing rubber. It’s so fast and fun that it comes out of the garage almost as much as my full suspension bike.
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 Me too. Got a big AL off chain reaction. great deal at that price
  • 5 0
 I have a Big Al and I love it so much. It's a budget build at around €1000 but it works really well together.
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 Ragley is unreal fun -- and like you said, frames can be found so affordably.
  • 5 0
 Blue Pig with marzocchi z1 coil 160mm and Assegai here
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 I ride my sentier more than my mega.
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 mmbop (same as blue pig, but alloy and worst name ever) with a pike and gx 11spd. super fun bike
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 @esstinkay: Yeah, when i was building my bike i saw that frame, decided to shell out the extra 250 for steel and a cooler paintjob though. 2019 model with that awful orange. Mine: www.vitalmtb.com/community/spoon,48778/setup,41498

BTW- sussed out your profile, those trails you built look pretty damn sick
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 I got a Marley on CRC on closeout and have to say that it's just heap of fun to ride. I use it as my winter bike and for family rides with the wife where my enduro bike would be boring. Well, that was the plan anyway. I actually ride it a lot more than that. It's cheap and heavy, but oh so much fun.
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 @NWBasser: Light the ragleys aint- mine's pushing 15.7kg/34.5lb
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 @Civicowner: thx man, cheers!
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 *checks bank balance and sighs*
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 Voodoo... Where you get a full carbon frame, and a 34lb bike after the boat anchor group/wheels/fork. WTF. Why carbon? And close to 4k for framesets? Nutjobs everywhere here. (Moots of course givn a pass here, because they are tits)
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 Where are you seeing 34lbs?
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 was waiting to see one of these here.
got a deedar from them as my first real HT and its enough for all of my local trails + makes them fun again. everything really great value from oneone.

on the test: the steel version of the pipedream moxie is as sexy as the shown ti-version + comes with eeeeeven sexier colors
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 Best hcht now and ive ridden many. Only downside is the frame weight, 3,5kg. Need to put light high end parts if want reasonable weight for complete.
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 My Nimble 9 is one of the most fun bikes I have ever ridden. Depending on the trail it is faster as well. Riding a hardtail can show yo how much energy you lose pumping rollers on a squishy bike.
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 Voodoo is a mess. They've got a whole lineup of catalog frames that are embarrassingly low end, another lineup of aluminum framed cheapies, and some decent value steel and ti bikes that make no mention of tire clearances, weight, or any other details besides yesterday geometry figures. Then they've got this whole "Warriors and Spirits" shtick to differentiate between "decent" and "pile of poop" options (ie trying to compete with BikesDirect or KHS). The list their location as Sedona, AZ, which is strangely suspicious. Oh, and the carbon model Pinkbike featured here: yea, not even listed on the website. It's as if the company has two independent, seperate factions - one using the brand name to sell cheap bikes, the other still kinda making cool hardtails - and the web designer be called once every couple of years...
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 Meanwhile hyper......
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 @fruitsd79: Hyper is a different case. They are a brand more or less specializing in cheap bikes, but some marketer somewhere got the brilliant idea to let some pro riders have one-off bikes built with the same name, and use their name on $100 cheapies at Walmart for sweet royalties.

Honestly, if Voodoo wanted to do something similar, they'd find some great influencers, get feedback on what makes a sweet modern hardtail (for bikepacking, dirt jumps, or general all-mountain), then give said influencers those bikes to post up all over Instagram.
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 @PHeller: To be fair, Hyper did have a decent line of 'real' BMX bikes mid to late 1990's that weren't 'Walmart' bikes. I worked in a shop that sold them for a while and several other BMX outlests/shops dealt with them. That said, nowadays is does fell Hyper only has the few one-off type bikes
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 After years of riding full sus and not being happy, I went back to a steel hardtail. I immediately fell in love with it and it more than capable in the way I ride, I’ll never buy a carbon or aluminum bike again...those Ti frames though look sweet.
  • 7 0
 Nothing I like better than a hardtail underneath me!
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flag BiNARYBiKE (Jul 23, 2020 at 12:11) (Below Threshold)
 Except a full suspension... Wink
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 I've been on a Chromag Surface for a few years and absolutely love it! Definitely lots of beautiful looking rigs in this post though.
  • 7 0
 Nimble 9! I got a new one. It’s a sweet rig.
  • 5 1
 What has happened to GT? When I was a kid GT meant "Get Tough!" and we thought the frames looked bitchin'. Ask me about the GT above I'd say "Gonna throw up". Man they are fugly now. Sad times.
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 Was a GT fanboy/ lifer. I'd have killed for a zaskar in the 90s, made do with a backwoods.
Had a zaskar team in 2003 that got nicked, Z1 BAMs too.
3 Sanctions that snapped around 2007
Then a zaskar 9r think 2010 that snapped 3rd week in. Just went shite after selling out
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 Just amazing how fast Pacific Bicycle devalued the brand after purchasing GT in 2001 eh.
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 Same, had a Gt Aggressor in 1997-98, my first mtb. Zaskar was so a dream for me. I now ride an Ibis mojo hd4, hard to imagine riding a GT.
  • 5 0
 I lusted after a ball burnished RTS as a kid. I still think they're a great looking bike
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 While my main MTB is a dentist wonderbike...

My XC bike is still a HT. I raced a full season (local pro) on a full suspension bike, and I am back on a HT. I won't go back to a full suspension XC bike ever again. And if my budget someday limits my options, I'll go back to a HT trail bike.

HT's are underrated. They aren't just for beginners.
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 We have a local pro here that races and wins all sorts of tough XC pro races on a Scale with no dropper. Its impressive how fast he is on that thing. I prefer a FS just because its more comfy, but it doesn't make me much faster.
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 Phoof, Ragley Big Wig is beauuutiful.
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 Add on one here the next times. Their big dog and scandal are real bargains. Payed my big dog less than 250 euros with shipping, seat collar and fork steering. Really versatile machines ! And big up for bardino ! Amazing products and good contact with the owner !
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 I'm so happy with my Scandal. Full GX, Pike 130 up front. Excellent all-day machine that can still get stupid when it needs to. 65 degree HTA with a 130mm fork - so tempted to try 140 or 150.......
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 @FatTonyNJ: my big dog has a little bit more than 130. It works. Climbs surprisely well !
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 Shame the latest Pace isn't on this list. Bfe is looking a lot better with the steeper STA.

For those that only have a FS and have never tried a quality steel HT or Ti, then riding one might open your eyes a bit. Very different to a FS; but equally or even more rewarding.
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 Got a Pace RC627 in XL size last year, great bike, won’t be changing for a long time and very good value compared to some of these. Just over £500 for 853 front triangle and cromo rear. Geo is bang on. A few more pedal strikes on climbs than previous bikes, but small price to pay when it feels so planted going down hill.
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 How tall are you please? Looking at one of these and I’m 6 2. The XL looks very very long though on the reach numbers, especially considering reach gets longer on a hardtail when sagged m
  • 1 0
 I just got the Pace RC529 and I'm so happy with it! Not much of a bargain shipped to the US, but it's well made and worth it for how precise and planted it rides. It corners like it's on rails, and has a nice springy and slightly damped ride quality unlike the Ragley Blue Pig I had, which felt like riding a steel girder.
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 @jeremyk: I'm 6'4" on the XL 29er variant (which is longer) You should be totally comfortable unless you have trex arms as the seat tube is quite steep.
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 @jeremyk: I’m just over six foot, but long limbs, in particular arms, so if you are over six foot then XL will be fine. Looking at the geo charts the jump from L to XL isn’t as big as some brands. Run 35mm stem and you should be good. I have 165mm drop post, but wish I had got 180mm as room for it. Ive had a few steel hardtails and it’s the only one that feels comfortable when landing from drops etc, a bit odd, but in a good way.
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 @scmalex: Glad you said that about damped feel, I wasn’t sure if it was the frame or new wheels (Hunt trail wide) or first time I had bothered with tubeless...but I do think it’s the frame.
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 @crag79: Thanks very much for that. I was very much swaying towards the large, as it still seems pretty damn big for a hardtail, but I'll take another look at the XL. Don't want something massive as a hardtail, but interesting to know you're a touch shorter than me and get on good with the XL
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 @jeremyk: I guess it comes down to what you are riding etc. I prefer Lake District day rides, hike a bike with technical downs, although I do ride trail centres too. It’s not the lightest frame but I’m cleaning more climbs on this bike than smaller lighter frames I’ve previously owned (More room/seat post angle?). I would say if building from scratch go 165mm cranks if you are using 2.5 tyres, They made it to go up to 2.8, so bottom pretty low if you don’t use the bigger tyres.

I will shut up now, all the best.
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 @crag79: I'll be using it for day rides as well as hitting a few jumps etc, so was thinking towards the Large to have something a bit more playful and manoeuvrable than my full suss. Thanks though, appreciate any opinions as its not possible to test one at the moment, plus even if it was Yorkshire is a 5 hour drive for me!
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 I have a Norco Torrent with a Lyric Ultimate upfront, and I am surprised that this is not included in the list (may be because Pinkbike tested it together wit some full suss bikes)
Bike is great and in most trails is doing just as fines as my Capra(not on the DH tracks though) but there is this rewarding feeling that you get from hardtails...
  • 2 0
 Custom Kingdom Vendetta ti frame looks an absolute bargain when I look at some of the frames above
kingdombike.com/collections/all-bikes/products/2020-vendetta-custom?variant=31216499556442

That said, I have a friend who has a new Rolex submariner, It’s hard to say it’s worth anything near the 8k he paid recently and I know that in 2003 they were 2.5k like for like, I suppose it’s 8k today because people will pay it for something desirable and as with all things like it, there is a queue.
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 The Guerilla Gravity Pedalhead, run with Cushcore inserted wagon wheels and a 140 Pike, compliments my V10. I used to have a Slash to bridge the gap, but I sold it off to get a gravel bike. Do I miss the Slash? Meh, sometimes; but the Pedalhead crushes everything. I ride long, demanding XC outings with it as well as racing milder DH tracks where the V10 would be overkill.
'Murican steel baby!
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 woah... that T-Lab is a mad lookin' beastie.
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 I would suggest waiting for the new Honzo DL..
  • 3 2
 I thought I really wanted a hard-tail. Bought a Commencal Meta HT. Really missed my full squish, especially when my climbs were better on full suspension. I appreciate hard tails for a great entry point in mtb, but for me I was quickly reminded how nice my full suspension trail bike is.
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 I love having both options! Hardtail feel faster than it is, and full suss is just fast!
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 Since a Hardtails HTA isn't static...a 68d HTA can often be around 69d at sag an get even steeper under braking/chunder. That's a HTA more akin to my DJ. Is that a good thing? I don't see the appeal of such a steep HTA. Even the XC pro's are only running 68.5 (static-ish on a FS). Maybe I'm wrong...I don't ride a hardtail other than the DJ.
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 71 never killed anyone, rigid or with a 100mm fork. 68 is pretty much modern XC territory. My current steel hardtail is ~64 and is great up to the easier double black trails at speed and the steeper stuff if I’m careful. You’ll notice the landings on drops more if that’s something you like riding...
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 I guess it all depends on where and how one rides. My current hardtail has about a 64 degree head angle unsagged and I wouldn't consider a hardtail frame with steeper angles. Once into the sag it goes to around 66 degrees and even steeper further into the travel. I'm firmly of the belief that a modern hardtail intended for riding steep and rough trails needs to be very slack. It makes a massive difference.
  • 5 0
 Best fkin post in a long time.
  • 4 1
 That was a bit like scrolling through the pages of Victoria’s Secret catalog... fun to watch but no interest Or need for bra's and suspenders...
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 How is it that the Pipedream comes in at about $2300 USD for a special edition, limited run on Ti frames when the other Ti frames here are $3k+.....
  • 1 0
 I wondered that too. They have done well to get the price slightly below their British competitors (usually closer to £2k). I've got a steel version and would have upgraded but for moving house in 2 months.
  • 4 0
 Hey @pinkbike where is the Kingdom Vendetta? Spot on geometry and Ti at an awesome price with the best customer service!?
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 I just got my Vendetta about 2 months ago and I've been riding it nonstop since. Best purchase, and most fun bike ever. I put a 160 on it, making it about a 64.5 HTA. Incredible, nimble, playful confidence inspiring ride that is a dream uphill as well.
  • 4 0
 modern hardtail is capable and fun less to worry at maintenance work everywhere from bike parc to ride with the kid
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 Shout out for Bird.
Built up a Zero 29 in lockdown and it has been so much fun.

Also been playing around with an old hardtail and parts. I’ve tried it out with 120mm 29, mullet 120 and 27.5 front and back with a 130mm.

I’m seriously considering going back to 27.5 it has been so much fun.
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 Sonder transmitters are also great, i got one with a rigid fork and 29/2.6 & 27.5/2.3 wtb vigilante mullet combo. It totally rips down smooth manicured trails due to its lack of suspension wallow. With 2” slick tyres and 29 at both ends it makes a brilliant town/commuting bike too. Can even get a 9 speed triple chainset 26/34/44 on it with an 11-42 11 speed at the back for an almost 800% gear range, Ideal for lugging tools or other gear up and down the hills. No need for motor n batteries.
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 Yeti: “I think we built the perfect dentist high dollar bike”
Moots: “hold my micro brew”

Moots are beautiful though.
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 Just built up a new hardtail, Stanton Switch9’er, after having a break for a couple of years and solely riding full sussers. Man alive, it’s so much fun. You have to realise that you can’t get away with as much and best to wind it back a little. But the current crop will do as much as you allow them. Crazy fun
  • 4 0
 Drooooooling.... Some real deal/steel and gorgeous looking machines!
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 Is the Moxie geo at sag? And what fork is it based around? Trying to decide if it has a stupid slack HTA or a stupid steep STA.
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 64deg is not particularly slack for a hardtail. I think it is for the unsprung geometry so it steepens when sagged. 65deg isn't uncommon for full suspension bikes these days so this is kind of on par. My hardtail with 120mm travel fork and smaller wheels has a 63deg unsprung head tube angle. But bikes made for bigger wheels (like the Pipedream) typically have steeper head angles so 64deg seems fine.
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 @vinay: agreed that 64° isn't ridiculous un-sagged (my hardtail feels great at 64.5° w/ a 140mm fork). That would put the STA at 78.5°-79.0° sagged, though. THAT is a bit ridiculous. Maybe it's for people who never sit unless they're on a grade >10%?
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 @vinay: what frame are you riding to get 63deg ha with a 120mm fork??!!
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 @SoddenDeath: BTR Ranger, 26" wheels configuration. Geometry is largely stock, only had the top tube lowered (so I've got the size large frame but with a 400mm seattube). But the 63deg HA is standard and the frame is 120mm travel fork specific.
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 @vinay: wowser, fun to ride?
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 @SoddenDeath: Yeah, for me it is perfect! Cornering is easy enough (the low top tube gives me lots of room to tilt the bike even with the cranks level, which was my requirement for dropping that top tube this amount) and at higher speeds it is just point and go. Sometimes I'm surprised with what I can get away with, chasing people on full suspension bikes on a trail I don't even know. You can see the bike in my pictures. The pictures were taken just after I assembled the bike so I'm running different tires and the saddle is a good lot lower than in the picture. I only had it that high to be able to clamp it in the workstand. You can see some blue rim tape under the seat tube clamp. The clamp is for aluminium frames which have a thicker wallthickness so this one wouldn't clamp properly in its tightest setting. Eventually I removed from material from the clamp, from the gap so that I could clamp it tighter. It is good now. Though as I pretty much always leave the saddle low, I would have been fine with the integrated seat tube clamp. Which was a free option during build. But yeah, it works fine for me as it is now. Super happy with it!
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 Interesting that the Commencal and GT are made of alloy, but the others are pure metal frames...
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 Pretty sure the other metal frames are alloy too.
  • 2 1
 The Why Cycles looks like its been left too close to a radiator and the T-Lab looks like an early 2000s Giant Acid when they went way overboard with hydroforming. I'll have the Moots please.
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 Not to mention absurd price
  • 4 0
 I'll take the Sage, please and thank you.
  • 3 0
 Ti hardtails have always been so drool worthy too me. would love to own one.
  • 1 0
 A good steel frame can be just as drool worthy. I have had both. Love ti, but don't low ball a nice steel frame.
  • 4 0
 Cove Stiffee. Anyone? Anyone? Sorry wrong decade.
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 26" hardtails were "fun". Aggressive geo 29" hardtails really add function to the fun. (Not talking XC geo 29ers) With bigger wheels and modern geo its pretty surprising how much better a hardtail rides over a 26" of years past. With that said, it would be awesome to see Cove comeback with a modern 29er hardtail! In steel or a ti option of course, alloy just won't cut it.
  • 2 2
 15 new hardtails you'll only find in actual fucking stock because they're so expensive. And most of these are in the UK or Europe only. Here in NA, if its less than 2k retail, almost every bike store is sold out of 2020 inventory.
  • 1 0
 Been riding a Spot Rocker 29, I love love love it! I usually have it setup how it came Single Speed but also have nearly 1000 miles on it with XO Eagle and it's a blast either way. Sets DH PR's from time to time.
  • 1 0
 Decathlon made an interesting 1000eur trail hardtail, the AM100, but it seems they stopped it recently:

www.mbr.co.uk/reviews/hardtail/decathlon-rockrider-am-100-ht-review
  • 3 0
 god bless bare non-carbon frames.
  • 2 1
 Why Cycles

Why you got that one bottle cage bolt on the top tube out in Siberia near the headtube with nothing else around and not a lot of clearance?
  • 4 0
 That's for a frame bag or whatever else...
  • 2 0
 I got to demo a Why single-sided a couple years back. 27+, Titanium frame, carbon bars, and a sick DVO up front. This rig honestly felt better than any 4-5" travel bike I'd ever ridden.
Scandium Honzo 29 was a close 2nd favorite HT.
  • 1 0
 Correction: single speed*
  • 3 0
 I would love to have one of those Nordest Bardino 2 in Ti.
  • 2 0
 Britango is interesting too. I don't need a new bike, gotta convince myself of that FACT.
  • 1 0
 I get to ride a Bardino v1 from time to time and it's a fun bike. So much I have been drooling over the v2 in Ti :/...
  • 1 0
 I just got a Bardino 2 Ti 650, took three month to arrive from when I order but it was worth it. She ride like she on rails.
  • 1 0
 @sundowner1: You have my sincerest jealousy.
  • 1 0
 I have it in steel and its such an insanely capable bike. Most fun bike I own as well.
  • 1 0
 I have the steel version and its a super fun bike. I am riding it so much more than I thought, that I regret not opting for the Titanium version.
  • 2 0
 That pipedream moxie is gorgeous the headtube emblem is sweet as. But alas it will be be just a pipedream for me.
  • 2 0
 No specialised fuse in there - wonder if they have stopped making them in 2021
  • 1 0
 Nah they're still around. I have one prebooked. Have you got a 2020?
  • 1 0
 Wow I didn't know that made that many hard tails for dentists!! Commencal for the win, but they left off the Nukeproof Scout!
  • 2 1
 Great looking bikes, but can someone explain where a hardtail with 160mm travel makes sense? Surely if you need 160mm up front you need something out back?
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 @idecic: so the big fork is just to make the geometry work? Seems like the same result could be achieved with a 100mm fork and be riding a lighter bike. It's like speccing a full sus with a lyric up front and a Sid out back.
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 @chris-brown225: well, ya it’s all part of the overall design and works with the geo, which is pretty aggressive. The “descending theories” part of the article I think sums it up:

“ 2. Longer reach shifts my weight forward, moving weight off the rear wheel which is helpful for increased comfort on a hardtail in rough terrain.

3. I want as much travel as possible up front to make "riding the fork" while descending more comfortable. The extra mid-stroke support of the new Lyrik will allow for this without excessive diving.”

...so, on a hardtail you tend to unweighted the rear quite a bit, putting more emphasis on what the front wheel is doing. Longer fork isn’t only to make geo work - it provides more control. I doubt you’d have the same experience on a 100mm fork, but you should give it a try Wink
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 @idecic: I ride some pretty rough stuff on my hardtail and never feel like the front end is what's limiting me, it's more the back end braking traction and fear of getting a flat. But like you say, you can't know until you've tried it
  • 4 0
 I ride a full suspension bike about 50% of the time and an aggressive hardtail about 50% of the time. Same trails, rowdy techy descents, chunky rocks an roots, drops up to around two meters with long descents. Yes, I absolutely use all of the 160mm in my fork on my hardtail (64 hta designed for 160mm travel)! This is because while riding a hardtail aggressively an experienced rider deliberately tends to ride a little more nose heavy. By doing this it is causing the fork to do a bit more work than a fork on a FS bike. This allows the hardtail to be ridden faster and harder than if you were riding with slightly more weight back (as on FS). Hardtails will ride any trail or dh track out there, the difference being that hardtails aren't as fast in high speed chunder sections, but thats ok.
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 @JDFF: I agree. Riding a hardtail aggressively puts a lot of emphasis on having a good fork. You also learn to temporarily shift your weight off the pedals when you're about to hit certain things in the trail.

Another big thing I noticed is that when you are out of the saddle, your weight on the pedals causes that point to act as a fulcrum for forces on the rear wheel. So a impact upwards on the rear wheel transfers some of that force to move the front of the frame downwards, which compresses the fork from the top and uses your fork to help absorb and damp the rear wheel impacts. (Which is another reason why rigid bike are so painful on rough trails)
  • 1 0
 So the steep bikes have their geometry quoted static. And the slack bikes have their geometry quoted sagged. That’s a bit misleading isn’t it?
  • 2 0
 Do like my Canfield EPO - hard to consider another HT as I'm not selling this one
  • 2 0
 having a hard choice deciding between the voodoo and the yeti
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 I would go for the YETI, just because i don't have enough space for 10 Voodoos
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 Well one is 10 times more expensive than the other...
  • 2 0
 They all look great, nice pics.
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 Looks like a session.
  • 3 0
 Where's the Kona love?
  • 3 0
 New Honzo isn't out yet
  • 2 1
 I was resisting the "Where's my Kona Big Honzo Carbon? Modern geo, fits 29x2.6" rubber with room to run over roadkill, such a fun bike!" comment. I'm just not gonna go there.
  • 1 0
 Kona hasn't made a viable hardtail since the 2012 Honzo arrived. They haven't changed a thing on that frame for 8 years! Don't get me wrong, I am a Kona fan I just wish they would get back in the game. Every single bike they make is still stuck in 2015 and most of the color schemes reflect that. Still rocking single pivot suspension designs?? Come on Kona, pull your collective head out, clear the shit from your eyes and recognize your audience.
  • 2 0
 @garrisond5: They've teased the new Honzo on social media, it looks pretty awesome and more modern.
  • 2 0
 It's a good time to be a hardtail rider. Something for everyone here.
  • 1 0
 Except for the Voodoo, most of these seem quite expensive for what they are...
  • 2 0
 No matter how nice it rides, seeing a carbon voodoo pains me a little.
  • 2 0
 No Stanton switch9er or switchback?. Shocker
  • 2 0
 The Gen3 Switchback and Sherpa are new for this year too, so I'd say they count. Don't think the Switch9er qualifies, if this post is about new/refreshed bikes.
  • 1 0
 2020 is a great year to be a mountain biker.. more competition between brands.
  • 2 0
 If you could actually find any bikes to buy, yeah.
  • 1 0
 @SoddenDeath: yep everything is getting more expensive due to low production too
  • 2 0
 They forgot the BEST ONE! The REEB ReDikyelous!
  • 1 0
 I'd buy a polished aluminum Zaskar. What's GT got against their old uniform?
  • 1 0
 Actually i lied, after a quick tooth count i realized my granny ring is 24t.
  • 1 0
 Mmmmmmmm... Hardtail bikes.... that Nordest looks pretty sweet and the GT...
  • 1 0
 @danielsapp Thanks so much for this post. Hardtails rule, especially ones made out of metal.
  • 1 0
 Zaskar looks fun . For a hard tail the Rocky MTN Growler is good bang for your buck.
  • 1 0
 And the winner is, a combination of the Yeti, the Canfield, the Cotic, and the Nordest. I call it the Clusterfuck.
  • 1 0
 I’ll take 2 of the Yetis
  • 7 6
 $1125 for a titanium rockhopper, sold!
  • 1 0
 Must be a first for Specialized, but pretty cool indeed. Time for Commencal to release some hardcore titanium hardtails again. Specialized (and On One) need some competition in the budget-titanium market.
  • 4 1
 @gammatomic, ha, that would have been nice. It's been updated - that's an aluminum frame.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: Ribble HT TI. I mean it's not cheap cheap, but it is relatively affordable, and beautiful. One day perhaps...
  • 1 0
 @alexhyland: I recall Dan Atherton got a titanium 4X hardtail from Commencal. It looked pretty amazing and fun. Would be cool if they'd get back into that again. Heck, 4X (and DS) bred some great bikes over the years. Imagine what would (not) have been if there had never been a Specialized Enduro SX (the original one that Anneke Beerten raced to second place in Lisbon and Matt Hunter used to chase cows in The Collective).
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: I know, just some Pinkbike sarcasm
  • 1 0
 What’s going on with the Womble? One minute it’s wireless then...
  • 1 0
 That GT looks more like a YETI ARC than the Yeti does. Just saying.
  • 1 0
 Please send some Zaskars to the USA, plz
  • 2 0
 Moots thank you
  • 2 0
 Some nice bikes here!!
  • 2 0
 Honzo ESD
  • 1 0
 so what you're saying is I should get a Meta
  • 1 0
 I love my new Meta HT. Faster up and down the hill. Hardtails rock!
  • 1 0
 Ragley Big Wig Race has some shitty welds
  • 1 0
 Ragley is the best! Rockhopper is getting sexier..
  • 1 0
 The Moots is a thing of beauty for the eyes.
  • 2 3
 What no fat bikes?
Like new reasons for buying a hard tail, too make riding more challenging?
Expect to see this used in marketing real soon?
  • 1 0
 where's the huck to flat vid?
  • 1 0
 How could you not feature a Chromag??
  • 1 0
 Hard tail and a trust fork.hmmm
  • 1 0
 *buys Yeti Arc, gets passed by $500 Stuntjumper*
  • 1 0
 The Pipedream looks awesome my fav for sure.
  • 2 1
 a titanium rockhopper?!
  • 2 3
 i'm sorry but does that say a titanium rockhopper??? Sure has come a long way from the one i had like 20 years ago
  • 7 9
 I'll wait for next year's hardtails with 200 mm dual crown forks. There's no point in going retard unless you go full retard.
  • 1 0
 I miss the old Voodoo's.
  • 1 1
 KONA HONZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • 2 0
 geometry from 2012... Honz NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • 1 0
 @garrisond5: AND???????????
  • 1 0
 @typerk87: That bike technically doesn't even exist, and have you seen The geometry anywhere? Doesn't count until I can buy it. I have seen the geometry of the Honzo ESD and it is too far out there. It's slacker than the Norco Torrent which is already pushing the envelope. 65-66 degree head angle is as far as I want to go on a hardtail.
  • 1 3
 Frame-only photos are useless if you want me to get an idea of how the bike is going to ride
  • 20 0
 All photos are useless to get an idea of how a bike will ride.
  • 2 3
 Nothing from big S?
  • 7 0
 No,no Surly here. Maybe next time.
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