First Look: Crankbrothers Debuts Mountain Bike Shoe Line

Dec 14, 2020 at 8:24
by Daniel Sapp  
2020 Zermatt EWS

Crankbrothers have launched a new line of mountain bike shoes today. The line consists of two clip in models and one flat model. The Mallet and Mallet E shoes are the clip-in range while the Stamp is made for flat pedals. All of the shoes are designed for the trail, enduro, and DH crowd. The Stamp and Mallet are a skate style shoe while the Mallet E is more of an adventure shoe. While the outsoles are optimized for Crankbrothers pedals, they're designed and tested to work with any standard mountain bike pedals.

Why a shoe? Crankbrothers decided to jump into the footwear category because their team wanted to make an attempt at solving some of the more common inconsistencies in the cleat box of clipless shoes which often can cause frustrations for riders.

bigquotesWe have spent many years finding innovative ways to optimize the shoe-pedal interface focusing on the pedal system, but we were missing control over the shoe, which created interference issues with the pedals. We saw riders cutting the cleat box in order to properly engage with the pedal and lengthening the cleat track to allow for more cleat placement options. We’ve been working obsessively in the space of less than 1 mm to develop the right cleat depth to improve clipping in and out. We constantly look for opportunities to challenge the status quo and improve the riding experience.Gaspare Licata, CEO of Crankbrothers


Design & Construction

The design process for Crankbrothers' new shoe line took about three years and riders such as Fabio Wibmer and Luca Shaw have been using the shoes for some time now and giving the engineering team feedback in the process. Testing involved going through several iterations of the shoe, and experimenting with various proprietary rubber compounds, especially on the flat shoe to get what they feel is the best compound.

Crankbrothers worked to pay extra special attention to not only the rubber compound but also the fit, along with the toe ramp and outsole flexibility. The Stamp flat shoe has a high friction rubber compound or MC2, to stick to the pedal body with low rebound properties which are intended to damp vibrations. The lug depth is designed around pin dimensions to absorb the pin body. All shoes have tread on the toe and heel to aid in traction when off the bike.

The Mallet and Mallet E shoes have what Crankbrothers calls a "mid-friction" compound or MC1, that allows for an easier pedal entry and exit. The MC1 compound is also stiffer and gives more power transfer to the pedals.

The clipless shoes are designed to work with any MTB clip-in system, Crankbrothers or SPD. The Mallet and Mallet E shoes come with a "Match" shim and Crankbrothers cleat pre-installed, out of the box, in a neutral position so it's ready to ride. Riders who use SPD cleats can remove the shim and replace the cleat to get the proper cleat height. As the outsole's rubber around the cleat box (Crankbrothers calls this the Match Box) occurs, riders can remove the shim and ride with the cleat only to maintain the correct cleat height. The Mallet shoe also has a "Race Zone" on the cleat box which allows the cleat to be positioned further toward the heel for more stability when descending.

Mallet
Mallet E

Stamp
BOA

Speedlace
Lace

The shoe's upper is synthetic and designed to be breathable and comfortable while offering some protection. The shoes are made to dry quickly in wet conditions and a reinforced TPU in the toe box provides protection against rock strikes and impacts. There are also silicone heel dots in the shoe to give more heel grip and a padded tongue.

Each shoe model is available in three different closure systems. There is a BOA and strap, speed lace and strap, and lace option. The top of the line shoes, including the Stamp flat shoe, utilize a BOA system with a micro-adjustment dial. The speed lace version offers a fast adjustment with the laces being able to tuck into the tongue, and the classic lace system utilizes round laces and also can tuck the laces into a pocket.

The shoes are priced from $129.99/€129.99 to $199.99/€199.99 and the clip-in versions include Crankbrothers cleats pre-installed. The shoes are available in US sizes 5-14 with half sizes and are now available.


First Impressions

Mike Kazimer and I have both had the Crankbrothers shoes for a few days at this point. He's been riding the Mallet BOA clip-In version and I've been on the Stamp BOA flat pedal version. A few days is not long enough to give a review but, it's enough time to get a good impression of how the shoes perform.

One thing that stands out with the shoes we've been riding is the comfort. The shoes are incredibly comfortable and feel supportive as they should. The BOA system provides a really even tension as it tightens and it's easy to use. I've experienced no issues in my foot or heel slipping.

The shoes feel reasonably stiff, more than a lot of skate style shoes, and it's apparent that the flat shoes are designed with mountain biking in mind and remind me much more of a shoe intended to be ridden in than many other skate-style flat pedal shoes.

As far as traction goes, the Stamp's outsole is extremely grippy. With the standard being Five Ten's Stealth rubber, the Crankbrothers shoes are on par. The shoes lock into the pedal pins well and I found that picking up my foot to change its position was easier than it is with some skate shoes. After a couple of rides, there are some light wear spots from pedal pins in the rubber, but it's nothing too far out of the normal at this point.




For more information, visit www.crankbrothers.com


196 Comments

  • 130 7
 Finally a Boa-lace, flat-pedal shoe!
  • 3 0
 YES!
  • 9 0
 If they have close to the grip of Five Ten and are under $150, I may be in for a pair.
  • 2 0
 @gregemrick: Do you know what happened to the mid top x-alps that were supposed to come out at the same time? I have been waiting for those all summer.
  • 3 7
flag NorCalNomad (Dec 14, 2020 at 10:37) (Below Threshold)
 In addition to the Pi and Vaude options. world.suplest.ch/shop/shoes_all/offroad_series/offroad-pro-flat-pedal

These CB shoes look like they just took the Shimano shoes and changed a few lines...hell I wouldn't be surprised if the same design firm that I know did the Shimano ones did these.

The shoes are going to be hot as balls since the vamp is completely covered with TPU except for those TINY holes near the base of the u-throat. And then the quarter has super minimal non tpu coverage as well. I'd avoid these if you live in a warm climate.
  • 4 1
 @gus6464: I bought a pair and absolutely destroyed them. Broke the BOA before I even got to ride in them, then broke both the straps on the high-top on my third ride, and then started having some sole delaminations. Was pretty bummed out. Stoked to try the quicklace version of these though.
  • 1 0
 My thoughts exactly. Probably not much hope for the same in a FiveTen product at this point.
  • 4 4
 I think the word beginning with 'F' I used in that sentence wasn't "finally"...

Do I hate BOA, let me count the ways...

The thing is, there is better solution which different versions of these shoes use: lock laces/speed laces. Also, these types of laces are backwards compatible with other laces including the ole fashion strings.
  • 1 0
 Scott Volts have been around for a hot minute. Great flat pedal shoes with BOA.
  • 3 2
 BOA's are the worst for mtb riding IMO. One hit and they're destroyed. Not exactly great if you're doing aggressive riding like it appears these are targeted for. With that said it looks like they're making some good looking shoes and not all of them have the BOA.
  • 7 1
 @mtbandskiforlife: How many times are you smashing the side of your foot into things? I've had the same clipless shoe with two dials on it for 3+ years of trail and lift dh riding. Never once smashed the dials on anything
  • 1 0
 @bemorestoked: these were just released like last week. How have you had time to do all this damage? Insider?
  • 1 0
 Been waiting a while for this. As a flat pedal rider first thing is to check how grippy it is. Glad to hear it feels on par with 5.10. and has big foot sizes too.
  • 3 0
 Hang on, is the Mallet E the E bike specific version of the Mallet but only if you ride an E bike because a non E bike specific shoe won't work with an E bike?!
  • 2 0
 @NorCalNomad: If you know the "design firm" - just ask and let us know. Doesn´t change anything on your arguments. Riding the "Mallet" and the 510 hellcat pro for longer now and from my point of view - man there is no warmer shoe existing than the hellcat pro. The "mallet" is extremly comfortable and that kinda set and forget product. Riding clipless so no feetback for grip on flats, but there is a significant difference between 5´s here. The CB compound feels really amazing and comfy while hike´a´bike. There it grips like hell. Seems that the rebound´s kinda different then 5´s. They are easy to clean and dry really really fast. Nothing I can say from 5´s.
  • 1 0
 @TonieMelonie: I don't have a contact with the firm I know has done Shimano shoes (some of the last generation of their mtb non xc stuff, I can't confirm anything more than that). But I do know I had to clean up some of their work at my job that would have literally caused people to loose body parts.

Also Tonie if you profile is correct and you're in CH that's objectively not really a good test of a shoe's warm weather aptitude. Come ride in the desert areas of America.
  • 2 0
 @streetkvnt-kvlt: E for Enduro, not E-bike
  • 2 0
 @streetkvnt-kvlt: no. because it is the same names as the pedals. there's the mallet for downhill, the mallet-e for enduro/allmoutain/trail and the stamp as a flat pedal.
  • 95 0
 Stamp shoes and stamp pedals? Crank Brothers had better not release another Stamp product because YOU CAN'T TRIPLE STAMP A DOUBLE STAMP.
  • 4 1
 This comment deserves highest praise. GUYS ENOUGH!!!!!!!
  • 37 2
 Has someone finally cracked the FiveTen glory code?
  • 27 7
 the new specialized have
  • 10 0
 If they are in stock that 1 thing better than 5.10
  • 3 1
 I don't think these make me want to part with my Kestrel Pro's. There is no information about how they deal with weather either.
  • 4 0
 hint - it's not just the softest stickiest rubber! PS the speedlace pictured looks SMART!
  • 3 40
flag bennorz (Dec 14, 2020 at 10:14) (Below Threshold)
 You mean like the hundreds of available skate shoes that work just as well if not better than the +$ mtb-brand products?
  • 2 0
 Vital says it’s 5.10 and Specialized. These are with the group that’s close but not quite. Based on the observations of a flat pedal rider too.
  • 18 0
 @bennorz: yeah I love the feeling of my arches collapsing and ankle fatigue.
  • 12 0
 @BsampSy: I like breaking a big toe when my floppy shoe clips a root, I also like replacing my shoes every month because the sole looks like a pile of ground beef.

@bennorz I was also stubborn about bike shoes too, until I realized I was going through almost $100 a season replacing them because they don't hold up as well. I spend less on mtb shoes, they grip better, have more support, more protection and last longer.
  • 1 0
 I’d honestly say the new generation of pearl izumi riding shoes is way better than the five ten free rider line of shoes. Grip and fit is just much better for me for some reason.
  • 1 0
 @RonSauce: first time wearing five tens was mind blowing. Instantly I understood why they could sell for a high price.
  • 1 0
 @RonSauce @BsampSy I'm not sure what kind of non-mtb shoes you are referring to, but none of this applies to the two dozen etnies, es, circa, lotek etc. that I've been wearing over the last 20 years.

if you enjoy the fivetens then fine, I won't complain, but pretending that they are the only mtb-usable unicorn in the world isn't right
  • 1 0
 @bennorz: I never said that. Every pair of skate shoes I've used haven't had the sole last worth a damn. The pins in pedals always tear them up. Skate shoes have much more flex, because they are made to feel a skateboard. I also haven't seen a skate shoe with enough toe box protection for my liking... because I've had a bad break due to my shoe folding over.

But I guess that translates to "if you don't have my shoes you may as well wear flip flops".
  • 1 0
 @RonSauce: Sheesh. I didn't mean to offend you. Sorry.
Everyone in the bmx world ran skate shoes for ages and even with the added stress of "braking brakeless" one didn't have to buy new shoes couple weeks of riding. Your mileage may vary of course.
I did own and use fiveten before. They are good shoes, but the price is kinda out there and other than that they weren't that different to other shoes in regard to sole stiffness and toe box
  • 1 0
 @bennorz: once again to the point of my original comment. If you went through 24 pairs in 20 years you are going through more than one pair a year. I get around 4 years out of my riding shoes. If I'm spending 4 times as much on my shoes im still spending less overall, so even if they aren't superior shoes they are cheaper over time.
  • 1 0
 I didn't "go through" them. I still have most of them and just lowkey like buying shoes.
  • 28 1
 How is the sizing for wide feets? five-ten sucks about that part since they went full adidas
  • 13 0
 This. Cycling shoes model themselves off somebody with torturously narrow feet.
  • 3 0
 I have the same issue, Ride Concepts are narrow like Vans. Shimano GR5 fit me OK. I want to try the Specialized 2FO
  • 4 0
 It's been my impression that the base model freeriders are still wider than the freerider pro. Is that not the case anymore?
  • 2 0
 I need wides too, and I'm in the market for new clip-in shoes. Giro Terraduro HV is my long-time choice, but they seem to be end-of-lifed. The Mallet E could be a good replacement (and I'm a Mallet E pedal user), but needs to come in wide. Help a guy out, Crank Bros!
  • 2 0
 @chachmonkey: I only have impact to compare to in size 12.5. eu 46.5.
  • 3 1
 @fruitsd79: 2FO are not the way to go for wide feet especially because they are so stiff.
  • 9 0
 Hey @Noeserd and @MtbSince84, we designed the shoes to have a medium last for universal fit. We'd recommend starting with your true size when purchasing. Through the use of mesh and elastic materials, you'll find that these shoes will form comfortably to you foot.

Feel free to reach to info@crankbrothers.com if you have any more questions!
  • 2 0
 @chachmonkey: Yeah, the old style Freeriders are still wide-ish. Wider than most for sure. The sizing seems to run a bit small though. Had to size one full number up (so two sizes with their fraction sizes).

The problem with the OG Freeriders is they are a crappy shoe as far as sports shoes goes. Paper midsole (!!!). They can soak up gallons of water and then take ages to dry. There is no system to restrain the excess laces from flying around and getting into your chainring so you have to tuck them somehow which can get uncomfortable. Great sole and all, but too many downsides and doesn't really last.

And the cherry on top is the lack availability lately.
  • 1 0
 @Ferisko: Almost all cupsole shoes at that price point are going to have a non woven strobel.
  • 1 0
 Take a look at the Sam Hill 3- they are wide. (And heavy) but I lile
  • 1 0
 *I like mine
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79: The 2FOs are definitely not wide but only bothered me with certain socks. The 2FO 2.0s though have significantly more room in the toe box and I find them more comfortable albeit a tad more casual of a fit. ie you move around in them a little more because of the extra padding and toe room.
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79: I have been using the 2Fo shoes for the last 4 years and love them , still been using the first gen shoes
on my third pair , I have wide feet and they fit perfectly, strong supportive sole and highly wear resistant and grippy.......but....
The sloes aren’t as grippy as 510 but I don’t mind that as don’t like the locked in feel.....
The soles do wear but I have had 3 years out of my current pair and the soles are on their way out.....
Would never buy 510 again as poor arch support for me and the last pair didn’t last 1 month ,the sole wore holes right through and I got them warrantied and got my money back... never again....

Now the 2Fo are on the way out have just started using RC power lines - very light and comfortable. I’m very impressed..... and no I don’t find them narrow or uncomfortable in any way
  • 2 0
 @NorCalNomad: Sure. And I would be happy to pony up a lot more cash for one of the more fancy models... if only they weren't designed for narrow feet.
  • 1 1
 I've got a 10.5 EE size in most shoes and find my size 43 Shimano AM7 to be super comfortable and extremely durable. It's a tiny bit shorter than I typically wear, but they have never once provided me with a hot spot or any discomfort and I've used them on 100mi gravel grinders, daily 13mi commutes and every MTB ride.
I'm really looking for a wider skate style flat that I can use for my commute and winter/fat biking. I have some 5.10s now and I'm not that happy.
  • 6 0
 @crankbrothers: I feel like there's a whole market for wide feet that is largely ignored. I trust you've made a good shoe, but in my experience, if you've made a good shoe for the masses, it's probably not a good fit for people with wide feet. I hope I'm wrong because I would love another shoe choice. I've just spent too much money over the years hoping shoes would break in.
  • 1 0
 Currently suffering the 5.10 change. My current old-school 5.10s are on their last legs but even going up a size my toes are crushed in the new ones. Ride Concepts look great but again, no room up front.
  • 1 0
 @gibbon-on-an-orange: i bought myself the new trailcross model and i can't use them since i got them, i'm generally using 44.5 45 on my columbia shoes and 45 trailcross is too tight that blood is not going my feet on descents
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79: I tried on a pair of 2FOs yesterday and they are cut weird, the fabric extends out over the sole on the inside of the foot meaning your standing on the hard edge when walking. I would recommend trying them on first and not ordering online.
  • 1 0
 @fruitsd79: the 2FO clip lace is quite narrow from my experience (2018 model) compared to kestrel boa (2019) which feels just right. They also have a thicker sole.
  • 1 0
 @crankbrothers: I'll give 'em a look (especially if I can try them on at my LBS), but I have not had good luck with "universal medium" widths in any other sports shoes, so I'm not optimistic. The wide sizing offered by Giro, Shimano and Specialized is very compelling.
  • 1 0
 @pedro46: i bought some RC live wire in a 12.5/46.5 and they are really uncomfortable and very narrow.
  • 2 0
 Pinkbike-Please include info on width in shoe reviews. Saying a shoe is comfortable with no info on width is pointless. A lot of us are skiers too, and longtime skiers tend to have huge bonespurs from years of ski boots. Personally, I’ve got Fred flintstone feet with a bone spur that’s practically a 6th toe that I’ve been slowly growing for years from ski boots. That makes 5.10 impact pros feel like ballet shoes, and I run em a full size bigger than normal. Lake has awesome options for wide feet in clipless shoes, but now that I’m riding flats there aren’t a lot of options...
  • 2 0
 @sitkadog: Honestly, for a while now I've been wondering why this isn't a thing with shoe sizing. Listing both size (length) and width of the shoe in the size chart.

Also, I don't believe there is a large market for wide shoes. We are just a noisy minority Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @Pinyonjeff: Wait, you mean a business made an educated decision to market to the larger customer base? .....and?
  • 1 0
 @Ferisko: The reasons are many, describing the "width" of a shoe isn't clear cut. There are MANY factors that can contribute to a "wide" feeling shoe. The most top of mind is climbing shoes. Many people think the 5.10 Anazasi lace is a wide shoe vs the La Sportiva TC Pro is a "narrow" shoe. The TC pro is WAY wider in just the plan view (ie just measuring the 2D width of the outsole), but the height of the toebox is shallow. The Anazasi is narrow but has a MUCH higher toebox. So the TC pro can exert a pressure on the middle of the top of the foot if you have a tall toebox/ ball. That feeling is the feeling you get in a shoe that is too narrow and low volume, constricting your foot and then starts pressing up against the toebox of the shoe.

And this is even before we get into talking about the plan shape of the toebox (like Specialized uses are very square toebox in their cleated shoes making them feel wider). Where the max width in the plan view occurs, what's the ball girth measurement (you can make a shoe feel "wider" without changing the width looking down at your toes), etc...

There are some standards for width... but a shoe has to sell A LOT of volume before it's worth it for manufactures to shell out the cost to make the same shoe but in a wide version.
  • 1 0
 @JustAnotherRiderHere: And? Maybe you didn't read what I was responding to, but I think it's a bit disingenuous or uninformed for them to suggest that a medium last shoe will work fine for a wide foot. I could be wrong, maybe they made the maternity pant of bike shoes.
  • 2 0
 @NorCalNomad:
And that’s exactly why they need to comment on how the shoe fits, where it’s wide and where it’s narrow, the general shape of their foot etc. Otherwise there is no point.

If I wrote a review and said a shoe was “comfortable “ without describing the shape of my f*cked up feet, someone with different shaped feet would think I was crazy.
  • 3 0
 @sitkadog: Well you bring up the second part of the problem. The consumer.

Speaking from working in both retail and manufacturing side of footwear most people do not actually know about their own foot morphology and how that relates to footwear fit and performance. Do you know your Brannock heel to toe, heel to metatarsal, and forefoot width (heel width is important but not a brannock measurable item), BOTH in weighted and unweighted measurements? And those are just a 2D component of fit. Do you know your forefoot volume, arch height AND arch weighted stability, and instep volume? These are all things a consumer needs to truly know about their foot before we even start to talk about how that plays into performance and fit. I've had plenty of people go "I have a wide foot!" then a very narrow shoe fits them perfectly... Or on the other side the idea that you need to have a really wide shoe so that your foot can splay isn't a black and white thing. Too wide of a shoe and your foot is going to do more work and can end up injuring you. The ski boot industry is one of the instances where you are starting to see more numbers getting put onto widths, but again I've seen and read tons of instances of "oh I thought this boot would be too narrow since it said it's a 98 width."

I did forget one thing on the manufacturing side. Lasts (the form the shoe is built around) are essentially proprietary information and can define a shoe company's point of difference in the marketplace. So as a business you can't really be giving away the secret recipe just so someone doesn't have to try on your shoe.
  • 2 0
 @NorCalNomad:
Maybe they should say “I’ve got a wide forefoot and a narrow heel compared to most and they fit me great” or “my feet are super narrow and they fit great” instead of just saying “they are comfortable “???
  • 1 0
 @NorCalNomad: I learned a few years ago that I also have a "high volume" foot. The height of my foot though my instep is taller... I guess... But my arch isn't high, so insoles with a lot of arch support smash my foot.
I also hear what you're saying about too wide of a show that allows your foot to splay, my friend had her podiatrist tell her that her Dr. Martens were causing her foot pain since her narrow foot was splaying too much.
About two years ago I discovered MukLuk shoes, which have minimal padding but are supremely comfortable for me. Plus it's one of the few shoes that don't bother my hip which is degraded from all sorts of tramas over the years.
  • 2 0
 @sitkadog: oh any review of shoes or clothes that do not describe their measurements is a garbage review. Full stop. The last set of shoe review shootout that pb did that exact sin.
  • 1 0
 Try Ride Concepts. I fit most cycling shoes just fine, but Ride Concepts seem a bit wide for me.
  • 1 0
 @MtbSince84:
Vans are to narrow for me, most Nike-SB shoes, too. I ride in ION Rascal shoes. nice, wide, last over a year now, clip in....
  • 2 0
 @snokarver: I have the opposite review. Live Wire size 12.5 46.5 euro, way way narrow. my pre-Adidas Impact low 12.5 46.5 Euro fit much better, as do Shimano GR5 size 47 euro.
  • 1 0
 @snokarver: I've tried a couple of RC's flat shoes. The one that was fine at the heel was way too tight at the toe box, but the ones with an 'ok' (and I'll stress the 'ok', they were better but still not acceptable) were loose in the heel, even tied tight they felt like slip-ons.

Anyone had any experience with the Crank Bros fit?
  • 1 0
 @TheSevenSendies: Are these less stiff? I like the stiffness of 2fos
  • 18 0
 Pretty cool they are offering different lace options for each shoe.
  • 12 2
 Those are soooo sick. Send me some Stamp shoes! I already use the stamp pedals!
  • 10 0
 That blue looks pretty good.
  • 8 2
 Wow, just yesterday I was wishing Crank Bros would make a shoe. You're welcome! tup My old Shimano ME-7 shoes interfaced fine with Mallets, but the ME-5's I just got needed to be have the pocket trimmed...and they are narrower. Really Mad
  • 10 1
 A flat shoe with Boa and Velcro. 2020 turned out okay after all!
  • 12 6
 ...Waiting to see who's going to make the first comment comparing the quality and reputation of their other products to their new shoe line...
  • 31 8
 I had a pair of Crankbrothers bars bend back in 2009 so these shoes are obviously garbage!
  • 3 5
 After all the quality issues with 5:10, I must admit to thinking it was disappointing that the first shoe that challenges 5:10 grip is from a company that has a quality control "history"
  • 7 0
 I've been running Crankbros pedals since 09. Only 1 pedal failed me, because I smashed it on a rock and they were like, the Candy 2's.... then I crashed hard with the Iodine carbon bars and it broke off at the grip. Maybe I'm one of the few that has had actual luck with quality. However, I had 510 Hellcat shoes and the loop where the velcro strap goes through broke off 2 months into owning them....
  • 6 0
 These look awesome! Hopefully Crankbrothers will offer these in a range of colors soon. These look like a worthy replacement to my Hellcat Pros.
  • 4 0
 Hmmmm just as my GR9s are wearing out! I've been enjoying their Synthesis alloy wheels apart from the porkiness, these look like a good option for footwear. Nice touch to include cleats for the clip crowd too.
  • 5 0
 The fact Specialized and now these cb have good grip, is great news for us! Pissed me off that 510 had the flat shoes market for themselves, with soles that lasted 6 months!
  • 3 0
 Almost there, just need to make it mid cut and protect that Boa from snapping off, as well as your inner ankle bone. Better yet, why not just bring the Vaude AM-Moab to North America and be done with it?
www.vaude.com/en-INT/Women/Shoes/Bike-Shoes/32902/AM-Moab-Tech
What's the hold up Vaude? Freeride is alive and well in BC, let's goooo!
  • 1 0
 Boa dials on the top of the foot suck from a fit perspective.
  • 5 0
 Now, can someone please make some decent flat-pedal shoes for Winter riding!?!?! (Riding Five10 EPS now which are ok but not perfect)
  • 1 0
 I'm "getting" a pair of Bontranger OMW boots for Christmas. I did one test ride on them with flats and was happy with how they gripped the pedals. Just enough heal that I could wedge it against the back of the pedal and then the pegs could take over. I am optimistic that I will be content with them all winter and not have to resort to clipless (not my comfort zone).
  • 7 1
 Still no thought given to easily replacing a flat pedal sole? No thanks.

Yet more plastic landfill shoes.
  • 2 0
 I love the idea - I've never really thought of it. I'd never buy hiking shoes with non-replaceable soles. My mtb shoes though... Actually most of them have been ripped and sliced on the upper as well, when the sole is worn off
  • 5 0
 According to Vital they are nowhere as grippy as 5.10 or the new Specialized.
  • 5 0
 These are really cool! We should see more shoes built around certain pedals!
  • 4 2
 I’m still puzzled by all the issues with crank brothers.

They make great tools, nice pedals with good float, and I’ve been running their highline dropper post on 2 bikes for 3+ years.

Shoes: They had my size in stock (in a great color) so I’m going to give these a try.

///

My one gripe @crankbrothers > your dropper remote breaks cables after about 6 months where the cable enters the lever.
(and it seems to always happen when I’m traveling)
The force to actuate is also kinda high compared to the wolf-tooth long lever remote that I upgraded to.

The highline 7 is so good otherwise, I think it’s time to design a new lever.
At least they’re sold separately now.
  • 2 0
 How much a shoe protects your foot, or how grippy the soles are don't mean jack squat if they don't fit right, yet not one word on fitment. Are the shoes/toe boxes wide, narrow, or somewhere in between? How accurate is their sizing?
A simple one line 'Crankbros has a shoe line out' and a link to their site would've netted the same info.
  • 9 5
 The first photo makes them look like a cross between forest gumps brace shoes and a pair of crocs.
  • 6 0
 My dreams have come true
  • 7 2
 I'm a simple man, I see a shoe with BOA and I want it.
  • 2 0
 Interesting. While I'm not a fan of the look of the BOA shoes its exciting to see new players in the shoe game. 5.10 are great and only other I've tried that has come close in grip are the NW Clan.
  • 3 0
 I asked my wife to get me new mountain bike shoes for Christmas. These probably would have been in the mix if they would have come out a little earlier.
  • 2 0
 These look like great replacements for my Giro Chamber II's... nice because I need new cleats too! EDIT - Crap, not available in Canada yet. Well, can probably wait it out till spring.
  • 4 0
 @islandforlife Try now! Looks like the Crankbrothers USA store actually allows you to select Canada at checkout.
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 @aj-allen97: Nice, wasn't working before, but now it is!!
  • 5 0
 Shoes feel super good in hand, quality is there. I am excited!
  • 7 2
 Can a shoe crack in half? We're about to find out
  • 1 0
 Now I want a warm, weather resistant flat pedal shoe. The SPD market seems to have several of these, but no-one seems to make a flat pedal one.

Also I’d like shoe companies (not just MTB companies) to start making shoes that are actually foot shaped.

I’d also like the cleats to either be further back or have a longer clear box.
W tend to use Shimano DX/AM... and deemed out the slots to move the cleats further back (as advised by Fabian Barel)
  • 1 0
 I got the last pair of Freerider DLXs on earth last week. Dead stock from some bike shop in MO. Like finding a damn unicorn!
  • 2 0
 The Etnies Marana crank miss have been pretty good so far this winter. Warm and dry without any wet feet so far.
  • 1 0
 @Danielsapp @Mikelevy From what I can tell the cleat placement area looks offset from the centre of the sole in the direction of the instep? I guess this will automatically mean these shoes help move the cleat position away from the crank making it easier to clip in and out? What do you think having reviewed them?
  • 1 0
 Finally a flat pedal shoes that actually don't look much like skateboarder shoes! The industry should try to steer away from the Boa system as it's frickin bulky and when it breaks, you're SOL. The Salomon Quicklace system is durable, quick, doesn't loosen, and the pull tab can be stashed in the slotted tongue - so no bulkiness or some knob sticking out of the shoe. I've never had a Salomon Quicklace break yet and even if it does, you can easily replace that lace in no time. With a Quicklace system, who needs another velcro strap on top of the shoes? Back to the CrankBro Stamp shoes - good job - it's a start to make flat pedal shoes look more appealing for cycling rather than skateboarding!
  • 1 0
 @crankbrothers I normally wear a 44 for all of my sports related footwear.
I want to buy both your Stamp Boa and Mallet Boa, but am not sure what size to get.

A few months ago I bought some Fizik Clima X2 in 44 and they fit BIG! luckily they are a cold weather riding shoe and I was able to use them with some thick wool socks.
I used the measuring chart on your site, and got a 270mm foot reading. This would translate to a Eu 42 or US mens 9.
Is this the size I should be ordering? or should I be bumping up a size?
Kinda hard to make this call when I don't think anyone in my area will be stocking them, and your sizing is off from most of the other products ive used
  • 1 0
 My Mallet E shoes arrived and I’ve had a few rides with them. ~25 miles

Sizing > I typically look at EU sizing, and the 44 I received are slightly bigger than my previous Five-Ten Kestrel Boa’s

Comfort, stiffness, and walkability are very similar to the five ten.

The shoe-pedal interface is great with new Candy 1 pedals.

The speed lace and Velcro work really well.



Overall quality looks really good.

Note> while they come with clips installed, they are not tightened down. Be sure to adjust and torque them to spec before riding.
  • 4 1
 Seems like this would've been a more logical next step for the company than wheels all those years ago.
  • 6 2
 Boas are moving parts. I'm out.
  • 5 0
 ive seen too many broken boas to buy them.
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 @NivlacEloop: said they same about shoe laces...
  • 2 0
 This look really promising Smile love the flat pedal BOA. Price is a high, perhaps a lower option will be good to have people switch from 510s.
  • 4 0
 Meh....call me when you offer ankle coverage.
  • 2 0
 It baffles me that there are so few MTB shoes with decent ankle protection.

Shimano's AM9/GR9 is almost there.
  • 3 0
 These look like the kind of trainers your mum wanted to buy you, when all the other kids had cool trainers.
  • 1 0
 Have kind of a weak spot for boa dials, so +1. However, like the looks of the Suplest shoe better... -1
Would like to see more shoes coming with the ankle cuff like the 5Ten Trailcross
  • 2 0
 The eggbeater shoe is a tarahumari huarache. Comes with a sole rebuild kit and the brass straps need to be replaced every 3 months.
  • 1 0
 Has anybody tried the Adidas Five Ten Trail Cross Mid Pro shoes? They look freaking amazing and get great reviews!
www.adidas.com/us/five-ten-trail-cross-mid-pro-mountain-bike-shoes/EF3010.html
  • 5 2
 Makes me regret buying another pair of FiveTen last season....
  • 2 3
 Allegedly 5.10s only last 5-10 rides so that shouldn't matter.
  • 1 1
 Safe to say you can remove the 'Allegedly' from your post. I've bought three pairs of 5.10's since Addidas bought 'em out, and the pair that lasted the longest gave me not-quite 5 months before the rubber sole delaminated from the shoe, creating a 2-3" bubble that quickly tore through.
I thought the first 2 were just bad batches.
3rd time's a charm though.
I've still gotta 9-10 y/o pair of Sam Hill's that if you remove the years of dirt, wear, and impact scars, they'd look new. Heck, if I could get 'em re-soled(with the same quality as the originals), I'd do it and still wear 'em
Ride Concepts came out just in time BIGthumbsup>
  • 2 0
 @YoKev: im going on year 3 with my freeriders. I dont personally know anyone who has had a bad run with 5.10s except a guy who's hellcat soles look like popcorn.
  • 3 0
 These all look pretty great. Sign me up for some Stamp BOAs.
  • 3 0
 I was looking for a BOA flat shoe in the summer...
  • 2 3
 Dear @crankbrothers - I hope this shoe / pedal combo with the Mallet pedals is truly a match that fixes problems of the past. After months of trying to engineer possible solutions and contacting customer service too many times to count I ended up having to sell my Mallets to some other poor soul to deal with. I really wanted to love my mallets but not being able to unclip caused to many scars to apply neosporin to.
  • 10 0
 Hey @kcj801, we hear you! We understand that our Mallets have had issues integrating with other shoe brands, causing a less than ideal clip/unclip. We designed these shoes because we wanted to provide riders like you with the solution. The cleat box was specifically designed to provide that seamless integration between pedal and shoe that you're looking for.

Between the adjustable traction pads of our Mallet pedals and the release of our new match shim, you'll be able to fine tune the engagement between pedal and shoe to fit your needs.

Feel free to reach out to info@crankbrothers.com, on Facebook, or call us at 949.464.9916 if you have any more questions!

-The Crankbrothers Team
  • 1 0
 Mallets work great with minaars..
  • 1 0
 Vasque Juxt. Change left in your pockets. Three years on the pair I have now (>2,000 miles/year off road) and still have another year's use, at least.
  • 1 0
 "Do they offer rebuild kits yet?"

Just kidding, I'm a Crank Brothers fan for a decade - but how did no PB commenter say this yet?
  • 3 1
 The top lineup pic makes them look like crocs.
  • 4 2
 can I use them with spd pedals?
  • 3 0
 Whoa, these look...good?
  • 8 7
 So the pedal and shoe can break together. I knew 2020 would finally bring unity!
  • 3 2
 So they went to the factory that makes the Specialized Cliplite shoes and said 'make us some just like that'.
  • 1 1
 Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
  • 2 0
 Uppermost lace hole being the CB logo is defo the best part of these...
  • 3 2
 they look quite good. but i cant imagine they are as grippy as 510s just based of the sole pattern alone
  • 2 0
 Do we know the weight on these?
  • 3 0
 @Bailey010 Here you go:

Mallet (US 9 / EU 42)
Boa - 858g
Speed Lace - 856g
Lace - 830g

Mallet E (US 9 / EU 42)
Boa - 878g
Speed Lace - 874g
Lace - 864g

Stamp (US 9 / EU 42)
Boa - 758g
Speed Lace - 766g
Lace - 752g
  • 2 0
 Oh and the weights provided are per pair, not per shoe.
  • 2 0
 @crankbrothers: thank you. I assume that is without the cleats installed.
  • 1 0
 Give me some Pros/Cons of Shimano SPD vs. Crank Brothers? (I don't have any need for mud or snow clearing capabilities).
  • 2 3
 Pros: shimano work perfectly every time.
Cons: crank brothers fall apart and use cheap bushings.
  • 4 3
 Bet you can't use them with Shimano pedals.
  • 5 1
 It clearly saids you can in the description

"The clipless shoes are designed to work with any MTB clip-in system, Crankbrothers or SPD. The Mallet and Mallet E shoes come with a "Match" shim and Crankbrothers cleat pre-installed, out of the box, in a neutral position so it's ready to ride. Riders who use SPD cleats can remove the shim and replace the cleat to get the proper cleat height."

You just have to read my man
  • 3 0
 @Theguyfromthealps actually our clip-in shoes are compatible with Shimano SPD! Check them out at crankbrothers.com
  • 1 0
 Q-Factor just got a little wider.
  • 1 0
 Hows the gription......is it more bettet.????
  • 1 0
 Rage Zone? What's up with that?
  • 1 0
 Is velcro strictly necessary
  • 1 0
 @danielsapp Are these stiffer than Spesh 2FOs?
  • 1 0
 They’re on the stiffer side of a flat shoe, not quite as stiff as the 2FO clip. I haven’t ridden the 2FO flat to compare.
  • 1 1
 Don't really get high medium friction? I guess that's grippiness.
  • 1 3
 -.- ---> MTB shoes SHOULD ALL have All Terrain Soles like this:https://cdn.sportsshoes.com/product/R/REE2489/REE2489_2500_5.jpg
  • 2 0
 You should introduce yourself to the wide array of mtb styles there. There is nothing that we should all have the same of.
  • 2 0
 @RonSauce: Using road tyres when driving off road makes no sense - regardless of weather it's a 'style' or not... Proper off road tyres are what should be equipped when off roading... The same goes for the soles('tyre thread')of shoes - MTB shoes are off road shoes & their soles should reflect that by having a design that will dig into dirt - which the majority of MTB shoes don't have & therefore is proper BS......regardless of any, perceived, 'style'... >.>
  • 1 0
 @PDXooo: shoes for gravel riding are different from shoes for down hill or xc.

For example, the trails i ride the only time im ever off the pedals is to take a break, I dont want a sole for hiking. I dont want a sole that compromises pedal grip at all. I dont need hiking boots just because I'm outside.
  • 1 0
 @RonSauce: Pedal......grip, should be adjusted around proper soled MTB shoes - NOT the other way around... We just need smarter\more considerate shoe manufacturers... >.>
  • 1 1
 Narp, Ride Concepts are quite the pleasant footwear choice ta muchly.
  • 4 4
 If as durable as their other products should last at least a couple weeks
  • 1 1
 Remind me of Mavics for some odd reason
  • 1 1
 still waiting on proper boot / winter flat pedal shoe .... Zzz
  • 1 1
 Looks like 2fo s whoch last about 5 rides
  • 1 0
 Makes sense!
  • 1 2
 Looks like they teamed up with Crocs
  • 1 3
 To me as a Dentist thes Shoes look way to reguat and cheap compared to other CB products
  • 1 2
 Love these. Hopefully @crankbrothers has a military discount.
  • 1 3
 I wonder if CB have sorted out their poor quality, had a few products before, didn't last, won't buy another CB product.
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