California Dreamin' with Aaron Gwin

Dec 11, 2014 at 17:10
by Dan Severson  
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What's been going on lately? I hear you just bought a piece of land?
Just hanging out and enjoying the offseason right now, it's been a really fun one for me this year. And ya, I actually bought the land about 6 months ago. I decided last year that I wanted to build a house on some land with a view. I live in a normal tract home type neighbourhood right now and although I really dig my place, it's hard having such a small yard. I grew up on a bit of land as a kid building jumps and tracks so I'm definitely looking forward to doing some more of that. I do a lot of my road and cross country training in the area where I bought the property as well so it's gonna be cool to do all the loops straight from my house. It'll probably take another 8 months or so before the new place is finished but I'm looking forward to having some more space to enjoy life when I'm home.

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What are some of the plans for your new home? Any custom features on the house?
Actually the entire house is gonna be one big custom feature ha ha. I pretty much designed the whole house with the help of my architect, it's been a really fun experience. That was the big reason I wanted to build instead of just buy a different house on more land. I found that most houses in the areas I liked were way too big, or the layouts just didn't suit my wants. I also wanted a place with a certain type of view, architectural style, etc. At the end of the day I decided that if I was really going to get exactly what I wanted, I'd have to build it myself. The whole process has been a huge blessing so far. Building this place has been a big step of faith for me in a lot of ways and I really prayed that God would bring about the perfect spot. He's far exceeded my wants and needs with this place and I'm extremely thankful.

With the larger amount of yard space, I imagine you must have some ideas involving either a bike or moto. What is the master plan for the yard?
Heck ya, I've got some plans for the yard! The lot is 11 acres but most of it is on a hill with two large house pads near the top. I'm gonna build the house on the main pad but I'd like to do some fun stuff on the other. I got a trials bike (motorcycle) a few months ago - that's been a lot of fun. Those things are pretty quiet and you don't need much space to make a cool course so I'll probably build a little set up on the pad along with a pump track or something. There's also a small bit of elevation on the property with my driveway as the shuttle road, so I think some 30 second-ish DH tracks will have to happen.

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Gwin s new property.
  The new digs.

How's the neighbour situation at the new place compared to your current home? Got any weird neighbour stories?
The neighbours at the new place are a lot further away but so far, the ones I've met have been really cool. My current neighbours are about as different as it gets. I've got Asian families on both sides of me, they're both super cool and quiet but man they flip the switch and like to party once in a while. We're talking huge, shut half the street down and blast music till 2 in the morning parties. Karaoke nights are one of the funnier things you could ever experience. Other than that, there's an elderly couple that lives across the street and the only time you ever see them is when they're outside yelling at each other. And then the next house down is another elderly couple and they're both from Italy. That guy's my homie. When I told him I've raced in Italy and love the place we hit it off straight away. We've got an agreement that he runs security for my house while I'm on the road and I watch his place when he's not home. He also absolutely hates karaoke night I've noticed, ha ha. Overall the neighbourhood is really cool, there's a lot of pro moto guys and action sports athletes that live within a few streets of me, but the neighbours directly surrounding me are definitely a unique blend of personalities.

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What are the trails like in your area?
The trails are really fun. We don't have much downhill but there's some good options for XC and enduro type riding. We've also got some really cool areas to ride road with very little traffic. I got nailed by a truck a few years back on the road, so ever since, I try to get as far away from people as possible.

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Have you been getting out on your moto much? What is your favourite place to ride?
Ya I've been riding my moto a ton lately. The guys at KTM hooked me up with a couple of bikes for the year and man those things are so much fun. I really can't put into words how thankful I am for the opportunity to enjoy the sport as much as I do now. I've been riding tracks, desert, trails, whatever. I'd like to do a few GP-offroad style races these next few months. I gotta try my best to be safe but it's great training for downhill and way too fun to pass up.

How are your trials skills coming along?
Umm, slowly? Ha ha. Naw, those things are a blast. I have huge respect for the guys that are good on them. We've got a solid crew around here that rides and a few of my buddies are pro level. It's crazy to watch them go up stuff. The balance and technique it takes to ride those things is crazy.

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Does being on the moto help with racing World Cups at all? If so, in what way?
Ya I think it does for sure, the biggest thing I notice is the fitness benefits along with the ability to read faster speeds. When you get on a downhill bike which is lighter and generally going slower it kinda mellows out your perception of speed and allows you to attack more without feeling so fast. If that makes sense.

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You've been spending quite a bit of time up in Big Bear at the Snow Summit bike park, how has that been going?
That place has been awesome. We have a lot of downhill riders in Southern California, so having a lift assist mountain is a really cool thing for us. I think the sky is the limit with that place. Hopefully they can continue in a positive direction and with any luck, we'll get some racing back there again. That would be huge.

Is it true they have offered to let you build pretty much anything you want?
They've been super accommodating to any ideas I've had so far. I wanted to build and film a video section up there this season but we just kinda ran out of time when the snow fell so hopefully next year. If they decide to go back in the racing direction in the future I'd be stoked to help with the trails however I can. It sounds like they've made some big changes up there lately so I guess only time will tell, but I'm hoping for the best.

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How did the AG ride day go? Was the stoke level pretty high?
Oh man the ride day was awesome, it definitely exceeded my expectations. The turn out was massive. It was really cool, Specialized and Fox brought their rigs out to demo and tune product. All my sponsors provided a ton of free stuff to give away. It was just a fun day of riding with everyone and I already can't wait to do it again next year.

DFL for Gwin but you gotta give the man credit for riding a tire wheel combo from halfway to the first woods at the top of the track all the way home. Sure 39 seconds off pace but he never let off the gas.

Let's talk a bit about your infamous flat tire / rim run in Leogang. Can you walk us through the details of that run?
That run was definitely an interesting one for me. On one hand, it was a huge bummer to lose all those points on a weekend where I felt like I had a good shot at winning. But on the other, I think that race almost ended up better than if I would've won. It's funny how racing works out like that sometimes. I got the flat about a minute into my run and just decided to keep pushing to the bottom. I figured I wouldn't be the only guy to get a flat tire that day and if I could still get to the finish at a decent pace, I'd have a shot at beating the other riders who'd gotten flats and gain a few extra points towards the overall which I was leading at the time. Turns out I was the only rider to flat or have a major problem that day so I still ended up last, but hey, it's the thought that counts right? Ha ha It was cool how people got stoked on it. I've found that in racing, the only thing you can 100% control is the effort that you put in. If you give it everything you have, then you have to be happy. What else can you do?

So, what was the final fate of that wheel? Do you still have it?
That thing actually held up awesome. We were amazed. It had a few small dents and scratches obviously but it somehow held spoke tension and stayed pretty true. Gotta thank DT Swiss and my boy (John) Canepa for the epic wheel build. And yes, we still have it.

Party faces

The World Cup fans have really taken things to a new level these days, with chainsaws, drum sets and crazy costumes. What is the craziest thing you've seen out there? Any weird encounters?
It's hard to remember all the crazy things I've seen fans do over the years, it definitely makes it fun for us. The decibel level they're able to achieve in some of the rock gardens at certain venues are deafening ha ha. The most committed fan I saw this year was in Meribel, France. Think Batman, but like scandalous fish net, thong wearing, mow-hawk, chest painted Batman. And when I say chest painted, he had Sam Hill painted on his chest, ha ha. Watching Sam's face as he walked up the hill towards him at the start of one of our practice runs was priceless. He of course had a side kick in equally impressive apparel. Ask any World Cup guys who raced there this year and they know who I'm talking about.

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Let's wrap this up with a few random questions:

Favourite bike video of all time?

That's a tough one, there's a ton of good DH movies but the one I remember watching all the time as a kid was a BMX video called "Dead Sailor". Epic!

Top three songs you've been listening to?
Changes all the time but the last 3 on my recently listened to list are:

NOFX- Seeing Double At The Triple Rock
Evil Ebenezer- Sunshine
Billy Joel- The Downeaster "Alexah"

Random... I know.

Alternate career choice?
Ice cream consumer.

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One person you would "fan out" on?
Jesus.

If you were in a 80's heavy metal band what would the name be?
Rage Bucket And The Blasted Banana.

Veggies or meat?
Combo.

Coffee or tea?
Coffee.

If you had a time machine, when and where would you go?
Nowhere, for now. I'm right where I wanna be.

In one word, what's the plan for this year?
Braaap!

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Any special thanks or shout out's?
There's so many individual people on this list but everyone at Specialized, Troy Lee Designs, Fox Shox, Red Bull, GoPro, Giro shoes, Smith Optics, ODI Grips, HT Pedals, SRAM and Rockwell watches. Also my trainer Todd Schumlick, Rich Houseman, John Tomac, Ryan Hughes, everyone at KTM and the Rockwell training facility. I know I'm forgetting a ton of people but you know who you are and I'm truly thankful for your help and support over the years. And of course a huge thanks to all the fans and video-photo guys out there that watch us race every year. Without them, none of us racers could do this for a living. Thanks!


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427 Comments

  • + 150
 Such an inspiration and cool dude! Thanks for being you Aaron!
  • + 64
 Seem like a good guy, I'd love to see Gwin shut some haters up.
  • + 28
 i mean, who doesnt want to have a life like him?
  • - 134
flag Protour (Feb 24, 2015 at 12:49) (Below Threshold)
 A life based apparently around religious nonsense? No thanks.

I respect the guy even though moving to Specialized killed all his momentum, but I cringe whenever he starts talking the Jesus talk and how he prayed to God to find the right price of land. Ugh.
  • + 91
 Is too hard to respect other people's religion?
  • - 166
flag Protour (Feb 24, 2015 at 13:15) (Below Threshold)
 Then I suppose you respect ISIS?
  • + 28
 I was also surprised he designed the house with the help of his architect instead of god's help... Also agree on the good guy theory but come on, keep god things private. Those who don't believe in god don't mention that every 10 sentences!
  • + 3
 @kazyamamura
Well, I assume that thanking a supreme being for finding a place to build your house may sounds a bit superstitious or primitive for a lot of us.
I can understand that coming from nude guys with rods in their lips in the amazonian forest, or even in a cultural or traditionalist sense, but it's much more difficult when it comes to guys living in modern civilisation, making the sponsor game, burning gas on their fancy pickup or moto, etc... It sounds a bit to me like mixing genre.
It reminds me this scene in "Talladega Nights : the ballad of Ricky Bobby"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A0-u85aAYg
  • - 63
flag tremeer023 (Feb 24, 2015 at 13:59) (Below Threshold)
 Well said. Gwin has amazing skills and deserves respect but referring to some so called god kind of diminishes his achievements for me.
  • + 18
 Youre comparing arron to isis
  • - 11
flag gnralized (Feb 24, 2015 at 14:09) (Below Threshold)
 @EnduroManiac

Thanks Darwin, we are holier than that.
(contains irony)
  • + 16
 @Protour

No, I'm an Octalink worshipper.
  • + 39
 I am not sure what's worse @Protour, a double WorldCup champ believing that God gave him his results or a troll believing that the WorldCup Champs hasn't defended his title due to 10mm too short chainstays. I chose the first, so would the majority of MTB world. Your anti Specialized religion sucks.
  • + 54
 Isis is not a religion !!
  • + 42
 pb comments where one minute you're the pigeon and the next you're the statue. religion is like beer to me. i don't mind others drinkin heavy their swill of choice around me as long as they don't get loud and bump into me and make me spill mine.
  • + 29
 Look, I'm no holy roller, but the guy can think, do and say whatever the hell he wants. He's Aaron f*cking Gwin for Christ's sake (pun intended)!
  • + 31
 Atheists are the most predictable people on earth. They never miss a chance to be self righteous, condescending douche bags. Keep up the good work guys. The internet has been convinced god doesn't exist.
  • + 11
 mods clearing in 5...4...3...
  • + 49
 @Session603 no shit they're predictable. That's the f'kn point. You can predict that they won't: fly planes into buildings, rape choir boys, thank jebus when a doctor pulls a tumor out or your brain, send missionaries to spread disease and claim land in the name of (insert deity here), conflate bullshit scripture with law, or symbolically eat the flesh and drink the blood of an undead, all-knowing jewish cloud wizard who will save you from an eternal lake of fire unless you accept . You can also predict that they won't try to make you listen to baseless claims. I can respect individual people all day long, but why the hell do I need to respect any religion?
  • + 8
 I pray to Protour. He's my Jesus, my savior. Good article and even better comments.
  • + 22
 Yall motherfuckers need Jesus
  • + 48
 I am not sure about the others but, I believe in the Dirt Church where anyone from any religion is allowed.
Why? because at the end of the day what other people believe in their minds/hearts has nothing to do riding and it has zero effect on most peoples day to day lifes.

Good people are good people. Dickheads are dickheads.
Regardless of religion
  • + 1
 I'm not am atheist but nobody has ever given me a good reason to respect anybody' s religion. It's healthy to question and even disrespect something that leads delusional and destructive behavior, especially if someone is going to be so annoyingly proud of their delusions like Gwin consistently is.

ISIS wouldn't exist if it weren't for the idiots who voted Bush into office because he was a Christian, even though he was completely unqualified. Many of those same idiots still insist the war in Iraq was justifiable because they are so delusional.

Waki, you are delusional about the definition of religion, but you are still my favorite quirky, enigmatic, wannabe American/ failed internet comedian.
  • + 5
 @Protour How many people do you hear talking about evolution and science nowadays..? People are just as proud of that. Quoting that God blessed him with a great life is giving a reason for him to be happy! A scientist or atheist can be happy saying how lucky they are that the world was put in the exact position in the universe, with evolution taking hold, for them to be alive (although I don't see how that would be possible without a greater Being). We shouldn't bash other people's reasons for happiness.

Also, when something says, "According to science," nobody questions it.. But when someone says, "According to God," World War 3 breaks loose.
  • + 16
 I'm not sure why the dude gets so much hate from people. I've been a fan for a while and I've seen nothing but good things. Go Aaron!
  • + 9
 god HATES US ALL! "SLAYER" I'll say it. thanking god has ruined many sporting events. When I here "jesus" I think how many indigenous north Americans were slaughtered for being non believers.
  • + 8
 Legend! good on you Aaron, an inspiration to many myself included.
  • + 11
 Mtbrider256: "We shouldn't bash other people' s reasons for happiness."

Why not, if you think the ideas they are espousing are completely irrational? I probably wouldn't do it in real life or question Gwin in person at a bike race, but this is just the internet.

@SPOKEn. I actually agree with your sentiments about the dirt church. But we aren't on s mountain bike ride here, we are just a group of guys typing ideas into the internet.

@Session603 Correctomundo: One of the things I like about internet is that for the most part religion doesn't work on it because of the critical thinking that seems to rule. It's to easy to hold people accountable when they say stupid things, which is what happened to Gwinny No Sinny today.
  • + 8
 @mtbrider256 You seem to think its a matter of religion vs. science. The two are utterly separate. "Science" is just a methodology for testing an idea accurately and reliably. The only reason that there is a divide is that most scientists are logical, critical thinking people, and so are less prone to religion. A fairer comparison would be "according to God" vs "according to Zeus" or Allah, or bloody Sauron. (Although Sauron is significantly less evil, of course.)

I don't like to admit it, but I mostly agree with Protour. although the ISIS comment was a bit off, just like the way not all christians were comfortable with Bush in charge, or the crusades, 99.9% of Muslims hate the ISIS movement as much as any of us, probably more.
  • + 6
 "It's healthy to question and even disrespect something that leads delusional and destructive behavior, especially if someone is going to be so annoyingly proud of their delusions like Gwin consistently is."

Gwin being thankful for finding a good piece of property isn't exactly destructive.You're saying because he has his own beliefs that in no way affect you or literally anybody else, that it's healthy to disrespect them? For somebody promoting critical thinking and reason, that's a ridiculously shallow way of looking at it.
  • + 4
 Yeah, gwinn never said anything redonk. Its commenters fueling other commenters lol
  • + 7
 @WAKIdesigns : your comment to Protour is first partly wrong (Gwin did better with longer chainstays on his Specialized, but yes, it's impossible to claim his sudden less mind-blowing results only relied on these chainstays, and they certainly not). But what about your anti- SC/VPP/JoeGraney religion? I also think it sucks.

Anyway as usual talking religion (no matter which) is like opening Pandora's box. And that's why I believe these things should be kept personal and private without hiding or negating them.
  • + 8
 Protour has hit the nail on the head about religion. I don't care who believes in what, but it's irritating to hear about it every two minutes. I came here to read about bikes, not god. Sick MIck is a believer too apparently, though you'd never know from his every third sentence. Gwin should take a leaf out of his book. And waki, your're spot on about those chainstays!
  • + 0
 EnduroManiac - my anti SC religion is justified as I own one of their bikes. I rode it to work today and I love it! In this way I can also laugh at Polish drunks in London and in less than 3 months I will be able to laugh at Swedish middle aged men flying to Pukhet to have sex with underaged Thai boys. Ever wondered how Sasha Cohen Baron gets away with Jewish jokes? Or why Chris Rock can say that he hates nXggers?

But let my play my cards open to you, as nobody remembers anything anyways: Nomad is the holy grail, so is Pike, so are XT brakes, so is suspension design so are longer stays, so is slack&low, so is long reach&short dick, sorry stem... Then I observe who is currently most hated, like Gee Atherton, Specialized, Banshee, Fox, God - and I try to lift them up. I like to ruin it for people who think that they arrived, that they found the ultimate solution and life will be good from now on as this thing they just learned is the best - because such thing does not exist. There is no balance, there is only constant change and it is never certain that things go all in all in good direction - ONLY history judges that. As an architect, who professionally manages space giving it more or less aesthetical form, arranging things more or less functionally, working with multiple experts from different disciplines, taking all their input and seeing not one but several excellent solutions to a certain design problem, which in one way is always unique and in another is same as everything else, I am fantastically aware of the ever present compromise. I am also a graphic artist working for marketing in architecture, deeply interested in psychology, I know all too well how natural deficiencies of our psyche sabotage ability to use easily accessible facts. I love to watch the world burn, it brings me genuine satisfaction to see that someone fought for something for a longer period of time and he gets proven wrong in the course of history. I LOVE IT!!! It lifts me up!
  • + 11
 The purpose of science is to constantly and rigorously test/debate theories! And this is why religious zealots of all stripes don't take kindly to science; because the supernatural/God cannot be proven within the realm of a rule based universe.
  • + 6
 If you want to blame anyone for Gwin going on about God, then blame Dan Severson for interviewing him in the first place. That is the danger with talking to your favorite athlete - you might find out that while he's a great rider, you don't agree with them on politics, religion or even bike setup. Oh no!! Most top athletes are a superstitious lot anyway and prone to seemingly irrational fears, beliefs or just kooky rituals because they believe it gives them the god-like ability/luck that they have. So Gwin's adherence to his religion should be of no surprise to anyone and when you do read such an interview to find out what makes him tick, don't get all mad when its not what makes you tick.
  • + 3
 Skips entire article, heads straight to comments looking for protour/general Gwin carnage. Is not disappointed. Nothing brings it out of the woodwork better than a Gwin write-up. I can't understand hating on this man, unless you've developed some kind of a bizarre, misguided personal attachment to him and he unwittingly disappoints you and/or fails to live up to his end of the imaginary commitment that the two of you have......hey, ride your bike until you have the same amount of skill as Gwin. I bet you'd ultimately end up respecting the hell out of him for how much work he's done and what he's actually accomplished. Anything less than total respect for his skills would just be sour grapes and evidence that you failed.
  • - 2
 FRguild that is nonsense. First off, i consider myself as a non-religious person, just to set it up for you. Now everyday everywhere around me, including on Pinkbike I find plenty of examples of nothing else but scientism dressed up in pseudo reasoning, where people talk science, physics, biology, nutrition, metabolism, bio mechanics etc. where infact they should consult a psychologist. There are people here who claim that they can tell the difference between Double Barel air and coil, and that simple experiment on bladi bla can prove how much difference there realy is. The problem is that they can't apply that knowledge that graph of linear vs progressive to their riding. I am all fine with science of spring mediums or fluid flow but it is meanigless without application. It is like being a random bloke reading a manual on space shuttle and expecting someone to give you a credit for it. So just because someone operates on facts does not make him reasonable. Most importantly the condemnation of religion and resentment of God has never, ever made anyone smarter in exactly same way as holding a Bible and going to church everyday does not give anyone an insurance to go to heaven. In fact many priests I met in my life were banging it to heads of people at leadt once a month. So sorry, nust because you read Richard Dawkins book and felt to be on the right side does not mean it wasn't about you. Just because you went to George Carlin's stand up does not mean that when he talks about fkng stupid people, it's not about you.
  • + 7
 as incendiary as Protour's commments might seem, he's got it right. alot of his initial posts in this thread were simply neg propped out of reactionary fear and the hot button words he uses, but the content and intent of those statements are valid and rational. and people dont like being called out. i say "show comment"
  • + 3
 Yeah, but hes being a dick about it.
  • + 5
 PB gives us movies for your monday and all that stuff. So, what do you say guys... Intellectual Tuesdays haha?!
  • + 2
 I wanna see a Protour vs Waki rap battle or at least a monthly head 2 head on the pinkbike news feed! These guys have done more for pinkbike than anybody on the pinkbike payroll.. maybe? What is this religion theory you speak of?
  • + 3
 I made a pinkbike account with the only purpose to read Protour comments
  • + 3
 Everyone just needs to take a bit of a chill pill. Religion is obviously part of who Gwin is and that's cool. He shouldn't try to hide who he is. People should just be repsectful of what a person believes or doesn't believe.
  • + 0
 @bvd453 I'm sure you're well aware of the fact that atheists are responsible for roughly 100 million deaths. So what was you "f'kn point" again? By the way, I'm not asking you to respect anything, because I'm certainly not going to respect your condescending, self righteous douchebaggery. Hence my previous comment.

@Protour You must realize that ISIS does a whole lot of recruiting and spreading of their propaganda on the internet right? I do applaud how confidently you state nonsense while insulting religious people for believing in what you think is nonsense. That takes a special kind of person.
  • + 0
 "Is it too hard to respect other people's religion? "
Perhaps you should ask the family of the journalist beheaded by ISIS.
  • - 1
 Aaaaand what religion does ISIS practice?
  • + 3
 Ok dumb question... FYI it is plain retarded and comparable to homophobia and other forms of prejudgments to put all religions into one bag, based on extremely conservative movements like Wahhabbism, which is the actual ideological basis for ISIS, that raised in power mainly thanks to oil money and absolute destabilization of the region by Western military interventions. Tell a Buddhist that religion is reduntant because it makes people chop other people's head off. And quite honestly tremeer023 - if it isn't your family then Why the F do you care? If they aren't your neighbors, why the F do you care?! You represent nothing more but blowing arguments on typical fake empathy and fake morals, which are driven by News channel chatter combined with political sht talk and FB hot topic sharing. I tell you what, if they executed all his family, cutting his kids alive, your life would not change an inch. Just like majority of religion haters here, you'll go on being clueless why those issues bother you, how to adress your spirituality, using atheism for nothing more than a group of likeminded people who can serve as a point of reference justifying your world view, in this way allowing you to feel accepted, satisfying your complexes and existential uncertainties. As long as you stay as a part of one team, you are no better than opposition, just throwing stones at each other. Establishment corrupts everyone sympathizing with any form of it. Thinking for yourself takes balls.
  • + 2
 @wakidesigns. Thinking for yourself isn't cool anymore. Groupthink, political correctness, and faux outrage is what's popular now.
  • + 0
 I wish you hadn't mentioned buddhism. While buddhists don't go out killing people, I have observed first hand in many countries that the western idea of buddhism and the reality are not the same. From monks kicking the shit out of dogs in a monastery in Myanmar to my former employer in Taiwan, to my wife's family to my neighbours. I think it's a safe bet that buddhism in Western books and buddhism in the minds of its "followers" are distinctly different, and not in a good way. It is a scientific fact that all religions are a load of rubbish. The cause of hardship and pain for more people than anything else. The worst religion of all... capitalsim.
  • + 0
 I just remembered... buddhists are killing muslims in northern Myanmar... and there was that high monk who called the UN envoy a whore when shentold hom he should stop endorsing the ethnic cleansing which is happening in the country
  • + 2
 This gets funnier by the minute. @jaame what would you like to replace capitalism with? Please enlighten me.
  • + 2
 wow. we go from socal to myanmar. priceless.
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 @Session603

1. You're the only person in this post to have used the term "douche" for qualifying the other posters. 3 times. And you call for respect ? Just find another way to express your frustration and stop considering people with other opinion than yours as "intellectual". Opening a book don't make an intellectual of anybody. You don't need to be an intellectual to think by yourself, independently of any kind of mental constraint.

2. Now, just experience it : start with Stepen Jay Gould, then Richard Dawkins, then, eventually, Darwin. Then come back to the Holly Bible and try to be honest with yourself in answering the question "which vision of think explain life in the most comprehensive and rigorous way" ?

3. Terrorism has not waiting for internet to exist, and internet represent a ridiculously tiny percentage of terrorist recruitment. I think that " refreshing the tree of liberty from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants", as stated in your pinkbike profile, has done a lot more for. By the way, I don’t think that Jefferson thoughts have nothing to do with pinkbike.

4. I don't know from which source do you get your numbers about atheists being responsible of 100 million death, and I am very curious to know where you can find such a figure.
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 5. But if you like figures, I can give you some: for instance, let’s talk about infantile mortality in Europe. From 0 AD to 1740 : 300/1000. Today, 3.79/1000 (2010). All this diminution is linked to better alimentation, better hygiene, vaccination and education. All that thinks thanks to religion ? I don’t think so. So if you take the average yearly natality in Europe (5.1 million birth) 1.5 million babies are alive thanks to reason-based knowledge, relatively to 1740.
So this one was quite easy, but you can do the same with life expectancy, etc… And I assume you are aware of the very complex relationship between modern medicine and religion.

6. You can do all the calculation you want, the fact is since people live according to rational precepts rather than religious, they live longer, and their lives are better. Benefits of reason based civilisation over belief-based civilisation are evident, and even if you don’t realize it, since you’re just a tenant of a reason-based civilisation, your position is a non-sense, your stance is indefensible.

7. And finally, maybe that’s what makes you aggressive with others.
  • + 4
 if god doesn't exits how comes that Gwin found a perfect place for his house? checkmate atheists
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 @gnralized

1.Instead of cutting and pasting infantile mortality rates in Europe try googling some statistics about the communist/secularist movements in Russia and China if you'd like to see the "figure" for yourself. I do admit 100 million deaths is only an estimate, but it's an estimate that comes from people far more educated on the topic than myself. Oh, have a glance at North Korea's human rights record while you're at it too.

2.Go back and re read my comments. You're doing a poor job of comprehending them. I didn't "call for respect" at all. Actually, I specifically said "I'm not asking you to respect anything".

3. I never said I believe in god even once. I'm agnostic. I So please clarify which position of mine is "non-sense" and which stance of mine is "indefensible".

4. Laughing at internet atheist forum warriors for your predictability and self righteousness is far from believing in a bearded wizard in the sky.

5. My profile is obviously non sense. I'm struggling to figure out how you didn't pick up on that. It's not exactly subtle. I have a picture of a child wearing bunny ears holding up a dead cat as my avatar. It really blows my mind that you would think I'm religious after looking at my profile for even a second.

6. I never said that terrorists were waiting for the internet to exist. I simply disagreed with my boy @Protour that religion doesn't work on the internet because critical thinking wins out. I'm unclear on the point you're trying to make regarding that. But that goes for most of what you've said thus far.

7. If you wanted to call me an a*shole you could have just done that, and you would've been correct. You didn't have to expose your terrible reading comprehension skills with that list you made.

8. Most atheists do a better job of making the argument that god doesn't exist than you do. You should probably let them handle it in the future.
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 @JoseBravo: I also found the perfect piece of land, without external help from "above". Unfortunately it was 10x what I could afford.... I think Gwin had some help yes, but rather from his sponsors which obviously pay more than "mine". Good for him though.
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 One can live and thrive in a capitalist system without worshipping money. That is what I meant by capitalism as a religion.
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 Oh look, Aaron Gwin thanks God for having his home - what a dangerous idea! We must stop him! Great that you guys are bringing this up so vigorusly!
Danger No1: He may start chopping other riders heads off, like Peaty's! All caught on a GoPro mounted on chest of Mick Hannah.
Danger No2: We must detain him in Guantanamo and press him with... questions whether he supports gay marriage or not. He may arrange stonings on his property, which would cut out half on Californian interior and fashion designers.
Danger No3: He may believe that the world is 6000 years old and he may start building an ark on his property, gather animals of endangered species and lock them inside
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 danger no.4... he may start to believe short chainstays are effective on DH bikes
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 Short chainstays, long stems are unethical. So is running too hard compound on front tyre. Fox racing shox is unholy. Everyone knows that Gwin talks about God to wash the cardinal sin of working for evil company Specialized. It's applied physics.
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 @jaame

No argument here on that one. Thank you for clarifying.
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 Most people are religious because that is the belief system they were raised with by their parents in their most impressionable years. So it's essentially an outdated family tradition that dumbs people down and makes them more likely to be manipulated politically.

If religion weren't so mixed with politics I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. But it has become extremely politicized in America, and it has produced horrible results. Conservative Christians who think the war in Iraq was a great idea, that Bush was awesome, that Obama is a Muslim, or who don't acknowledge humans are responsible for global warming: these types of people have become intellectual degenerates because of the political influence of Christianity. Because America has more power than any nation on earth, that alone is a good reason to criticize Christianity.

Gwin's own comments in this interview make him seem like a complete hypocrite, if you read the parts of the bible that says it will be harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God than it will be for a camel to pass through the hole of a needle. He is so eager to talk the Jesus talk, but if he really wanted to walk the Jesus walk he would be giving that land to some poor people instead of obsessing on building his dream house.
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flag shaun-ridefast-michael (Feb 28, 2015 at 16:37) (Below Threshold)
 @protour you clearly know so little that an argument with you would be a waste of time. I'd go into more detail, but arguing with a fool proves there are two...
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 In other words, you have no valid points to counter my assertions with.
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 ^ Give it a break already
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 GODS NOT DEAD! I JUST SAW A MOVIE ABOUT IT! IT MUST BE TRUE! It was a Christian documentary... a.k.a. complete fiction.
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 I love the witch hunt, I just love it.. Religion poses no threat what so ever in the western world, especially someone saying that God gave him a house. Hey, turn on TV, there's a real mumbo jumbo going on, where a large group of people kills huge group of innocent people, with no proofs what so ever: war on terrorism, al qaeda aka flying spaghetti monster possessing weapons of mass destruction. If God was a threat and he could give oil to those who pray for it, he'd be already bombed.
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 @protour if I was into following people on pinkbike, I'd follow you.
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 "and in less than 3 months I will be able to laugh at Swedish middle aged men flying to Pukhet to have sex with underaged Thai boys." ??????

Did everyone just miss this?

This effin child molester is BRAGGING about his involvement in human trafficking/sex trade & slavery?

PB should ban this pervert for life.

And you are preaching about no God? Typical.
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 @WAKIdesigns. Chomo.
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 Emmm, there is a stereotype about middle aged Europeans of Germanic ancestry from Belgium to Sweden and everything in between, going for deviant sex holidays to Thailand...
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 Riiight... so you can criticize SC because you own one, Sasha Cohen & Chris Rock can do the same to Jews & blacks b/c they are ones... but you can identify with Swedish chomo sex tourists because it's a generalized stereotype??? That's some weak back pedaling, even for a kiddy diddler
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 No you bum pot, I can legitimately laugh at Swedes for supposedly having citizens doing such trips, because I will get Swedish citizenship. You can laugh at your own people, it's like laughing at yourself, that's the way it goes and if you don't like it then kill yourself, because A - this is the world you live in and these are the untold rules and B - you can't leave. Please project your unresolved existential issues and anxiety generated by this fact on someone else. And if you like word nitpicking so much, you can try nitpicking singular hair from your scrotum.
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 Pencil me in for the scrotum hair picking. Also I'll take 3 Thai boys, preferably handicapped. Your place or mine dtm1?
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 good read, waki. the never-ending battle between artificial intelligence and natural stupidity is both sad an entertaining. got beer?
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 I also read it as you're saying you're a paedo... but did not take it seriously
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 Oh... well I am not a pedo, I even dislike teenage girls, but I would be very careful with hating on pedophiles. By no means I justify what they do, if someone touched my kids I'd go nuts, I have no clue how I would behave, but I don't hate them myself. I met only one as a kid and he never touched me - I have no experience with them, therefore I cannot have any reasonable basis for any deeper emotions related to them. If people hated them a bit less maybe they would be killing less kids. In the current climate, a guy who rapes a kid has a quite big incentive to kill it, because he knows that if what he did comes out, he's going to get hell on earth. So he may either kill the kid or himself because he will get dehumanized. Once you dehumanize someone, no matter who and for what reasons, you can bend all societal rules in full light of the law, and torture him to the point when he will be crying for death. This may happen not only from regular people who may lynch him, it will surely happen in prison, he'll be turned into a human toilet under full allowance of the staff. So take it a bit easier and some more kids may survive. LCK
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 protip, add "/sarcasm" at the end of your comment if you are trying to be sarcastic. since this is a written media is even harder to tell when someone is joking, just a troll or stupid
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 Then it ruins it, isn't it? Big Grin I am not trying to be sarcastic, it is as clear as crystal, that there is no justifiable hate even towards pedophiles - and I love the fact that is way too much for some people who live in the "how should I think about this and that, what is/isn't moral" - pure joy!
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 Someone once told me "People who say you shouldn't be narrow minded are themselves narrow minded, because they do not believe there is room for many widths of minds"
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 By one of principles of "Shadow Work" if we have a moral problem with someone, that is exactly a real problem that we have with ourselves, just mirrored... By another principle we are the exact opposite of what we think about ourselves. Unconsciouss is unconsciouss, bring something up and some has to go down. There is no escape! Free will is a fantastic idea, too bad we have limited possibility to use it, yep go on, proceed being masters of our lives, at worst we can at least think about ourselves this way hahahahah njahahahahahahh yeeeehaw! Burn burn burn
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 Does anyone know if the new star wars movies will be available on vhs? I got the first 3 on vhs and then they changed over to dvd half way through the series, poor form Lucasfilm I hope Disney rectify this problem.
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 @deadbeat if you dont have something valuable to add like defending pedophiles then this conversation isn't for you. With that said I feel your pain. All of my teenage mutant ninja turtle cartoons are on betamax. Also, my dog pissed on my GI JOE coloring books.
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 star wars died when they let ewoks fight with bows and arrows and win. seriously? disney? when's the musical come out?
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 I am not defending pedophiles, fk you! If one of them comes close to my kid I am going to close him at my attic and read my PB comments to him - one after one, day after day. Starwars are damn cool! All the stuff in there is damn fantastic because toy makers were designing everything, it was a commercial project right from the start which made it super awesome. Anybody watching Sherlock or Vikings?
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 Still have SW marvel comics and illustration books but checked out after empire, waki. Heard Vikings was cool though!
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 Dang it. Looks like I have to buy a dvd player, bummer........speaking of which, back in my day we didn't call them pedophiles we called them catholic priests.
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 That's a great generalisation and a quite cowardly one. I bet kids get molested in mosques in Saudi Arabia just like women are beaten there and getting their clitorises cut out. That aside of homosexuals not being stoned to death. Wahhabism is a terrible part of Muslim religion. Btchn on Catholics? What do you want a medal? Get on Muslim ass, you pussy
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 Empire Strikes Back did indeed have a weak ending. Return of the Jedi was mos def a redemption for Lucas. Then the franchise all went to shit when they invented Jar Jar Binks.
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 Preach, Cuban. Amen. Personally, kept hopin it would go blade runner meets 5thElement..
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 Chris tucker and Harisson Ford in one flick? Where do I sign up?! #LiluDallasMultiPass
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 5th had best sci fi eye candy.
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 A true hipster would have said Battlestar Galactica (197Cool meets Battlestar Galactica (2004).
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 Thanks for the mad props waki but no medal required thanks. As for getting some muslim ass? at this stage of my life I'm looking for more than just good times. Unfortunately it wasn't a generalisation of all Catholics being pedophiles or btchn(?) on Catholics. It was in fact what they were called. The term pedophile was introduced in the late 1990's when popular entertainers like Rolf Harris (catholic fyi) Cliff Richards and Michael Jackson were engaging in Catholic priest like activities. All being happily married men they were unable to officially join the priesthood and as the Catholic church doesn't like to discriminate, the politically correct term of pedophile was created to group together like minded individuals of all class, race and religions, from redneck stepdads to pop stars.
Getting back to Star Wars..........I think Gwin is like Luke Skywalker. When Skywalker used the force to lift his X-wing out of the swamp on Dagobah he had to believe 100% in the force and it worked. Gwin too believed 100% that god would help find an ideal location for his house and it also worked.
Regardless of your faith, catholic, jedi, mtb or vegan, they only work and give back when you believe.
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 I read in FHM that if you take angel dust it makes you, like, eleven times stronger. Perhaps that's what the skywanker did
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 Makes sense that Gwin would lose 'the force' once he moved to Synful (Synyard) Specialized.

Waki: "Religion poses no threat what so ever in the western world"

Oh really? Even some Catholic churches are willing to acknowledge it's celibacy policy led to the child abuse. But most Catholics are still in denial:

gawker.com/5508277/stuff-catholics-have-so-far-blamed-for-the-churchs-pedophilia-scandal

It is a fact that the war in Iraq wouldn't have happened had Bush not been elected. Cheney wouldn't have been elected VP, the US wouldn't have stupidly tried to occupy Iraq, and ISIS wouldn't have ever developed.

theweek.com/articles/445054/blame-obama-evangelicals-persecution-iraqi-christians

Waki "I even dislike teenage girls, but I would be very careful with hating on pedophiles...If people hated them a bit less maybe they would be killing less kids."

Hilarious how you feel obligated to qualify your questionable statements by stating that you dislike teenage girls. When a child is sexually assaulted, that child is killed, in a sense. Your Catholic roots are still strong in you, Waki.
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 I meant to include this link about the how some Catholic churches are acknowledging its celibacy is responsible for child abuse:

www.thejournal.ie/australia-catholic-church-celibacy-1830565-Dec2014

Waki, here are your people you don't want us to hate:

bishop-accountability.org/priestdb/PriestDBbylastName-A.html
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flag WAKIdesigns (Mar 7, 2015 at 10:36) (Below Threshold)
 Protour - as usual you are projecting some serious issues of yours on this case, you emanate with anger and you get on high moral horse pointing at singular events action, being a source of some bad things in the world. I have no clue what is your problem with Gwin, Specialized, religion combo but you are seriously messed up... almost everything negative you write here is related to Specialized in one way or another. Every individual, just like every group of people needs a scape goat to stay sane, it is a side product of needing a hero. But Trust me dude, you are no less fixated on that topic that some racist raving on immigrant problems, you are no different, you are just on another side of fence. The only thing that keeps you from being a raging racist or homophobe(or any popular bad guy) is environment you grew up in, because you are obviously very potent in hate area. I doubt if you or any of your relatives, has ever experienced anything bad from Specialized or religion or homophobe, you seem to have some anticipatory pain disorder. Your necessity of keeping a strong negative reference point in your psyche is indeed special, no other troll here is so focused on one issue. Anyways, go to a shrink to fix at least some of this anxiety.
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 You guys should just beat off together on Skype and get it over with already. Yes, I'll participate as well. Spare me the begging.
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 Waki you are just bitter because I debunk all your weak points trying to defend religion all throughout this thread. I'm not angry, just a rational, critical thinker. Maybe you confuse the two because you are obviously on the losing side of the debate? I'm actually smiling and happy a lot of the time I'm ripping your weak ideas to shreds, sorta like this guy:

rampages.us/alannad95/wp-content/uploads/sites/291/2014/06/computer-man.jpg

Meanwhile this is Waki:

www.dreamstime.com/royalty-free-stock-photography-man-computer-image9861427

Defending religion isn't fun is it?

This new book concerning more evil revalations about the Catholic church and It's ties with the mafia isn't likely to cheer you up, but I'm recommending you read it anyways:

m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6608846

Now say something sarcastic as you typically do in your last desperate resort; 25% of the time it might be funny.
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 Evil - what is evil? How can a person calling himself rational use the word evil? WTF is evil?
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 I am more reasonable person than you mate, that's all I am saying. If there was a test "how atheist you are", I'd score way higher than you as you clearly believe in this and that is the source of evil mumbo jumbo. There is no good and evil, the source of many world problems is perfectly natural desire for power of certain individual and people submitting to this power too easily by not being able to see the devil they subconsciously believe, in the mirror. In this way they believe in fairy tales of those in power that there is good and evil and the man in power will take the pain from the world. You my friend do just that, you believe that there are certain groups that harm the world, whom you've never got any harm from personally, and whom you would never be able to recognize on the street. Embrace NOW and your current location, care for the wellbeing of your friends and family and fk the world. World will take care of itself without you or any other loonies believing in greater good.
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 Some learn by reading. Some learn by observation. Then there are those who need to just need to piss on an electrical fence.
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 Waki, Im not am atheist, so yeah, I guess you would score higher in regards to being an atheist. The Catholic church hasnt harmed me personally, but that doesn't mean I'm not bothered by them condoning, hiding, or even promoting child abuse, or taking and hiding money from the mafia, and it is good to call them out for it or they would continue the abuse of children. But it sounds like you are just fine with that based on your attitude in your last post. As long as it isn't your child, it's not important and everyone should ignore it is what you are essentially saying. The reason the Catholic church got away with child abuse for so long is because of people like you who want to sweep everything under the rug so nobody becomes uncomfortable or embarrassed. The reason it was stopped is because of people like me who aren't afraid to criticize religion and the manipulation it sometimes causes.
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 The atheist part was just a bate, glad you didn't catch it yet got down from your horse to take a closer look at it. I don't know if am an atheist or not, I think one that says he is, is as deluded as someone who think God is a manin the sky, because we can't know... How do you know Jesus wasn't an athiest who understood the idea of God so well that he manipulated people for their good? Now Me and trying to avoid getting embarassed? hahah Big Grin A molestor regardless of job or belief will get it through parents of a molested kis and everyone connected to the situation, like other parents whose kids had something to do with molestor (like sunday class) families and so goes the actual physical ripple. Internet, media, facebook sharing is just a food for witch hunt disconnected from reality. So in a way yes, as long as my kid ar any of kids around it does not get molested all I can say is: Iam sorry forthe kid that got molested, but I won't go on a crusade to tell everyone that Josh Waits attending to St.August congregation on 45th Ave in Austin Texas got molested, because it won't serve the kid! Just as saying that if you send your kid to church, it will get molested doesn't help anyone for fks sake! Just like sending a kid anywhere and not controlling who takes care of him is dumb. My friends had a molestor on swimming class - should we ban swimming classes?! WTF?!
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 Your evidence is helpful to some morons maybe but not to intelligence of average Joe. Does Vatican have something to do with mafia? Who could think otherwise?! It's Italy for fks sake, Sicilian and Neapolitan savages with money and guns looking for more money and connections to corrupt police and military, will do utmost to establish connection with people who have sht loads of money and poiltical power over police and military. Molestation and celibacy - nooo way - you get told not to shag, then that God you serve will burn you in hell for masturbation, sexuality will be then showed you as a source of many evils, where your supervisors give you a hint that beating off gives you same punishment as raping a kid then shit will go out of the window. Then you get closed in a small box every day for an hour or two and listen to real stories of worst shit people do, who esle than priests will hear about raping, weird sexual practices, not only ones they commited but ones they wanted to commit: dear father I sinned, I dream of smearing poo on my wifes chest, dear father I took a penis of a boy from high school - how can someone not get deviated with that?! You discovered a new planet with those articles man! Did Vatican ordered any assasinations lately? I don't care, but probably.

As to omnipotent science: if you could give me a good research paper, a consensus of Climate change magnitude saying how can I definitely take a wart off my daughters foot, I will be grateful because all I get is a drivel written in "I am so smart yet cannot provide any conclusive answers" by which shamanic practices look like 2+2=4. I want science to fix my daughters problem, tell me where to look for her. Is science He She or it? Can scientists walk o water or change bread to wine if they were given enough funds? I deeply believe - yes!

OK now I am done, sorry to everybody, cheers to you mate, was great to talk to you again Big Grin
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 that Liteville looks like a fun bike though huh
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 Waki, if I didn't know any better I would think you were being paid by the Catholic church as another one of their horribly ineffective PR spokespersons.

In your imaginary world the Catholic church is practically blameless, probably because. .. you were raised as a Catholic. You don't have to believe they were responsible for promoting child abuse but fortunately most of the world disagrees with you. Even many Catholics disagree with you:

www.thejournal.ie/australia-catholic-church-celibacy-1830565-Dec2014

Your lack of critical thinking is repugnant.
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 Waki: "Protour - as usual you are projecting some serious issues of yours on this case, you emanate with anger and you get on high moral horse pointing at singular events action, being a source of some bad things in the world. I have no clue what is your problem with Gwin, Specialized, religion combo but you are seriously messed up... almost everything negative you write here is related to Specialized in one way or another. Every individual, just like every group of people needs a scape goat to stay sane, it is a side product of needing a hero. But Trust me dude, you are no less fixated on that topic that some racist raving on immigrant problems, you are no different, you are just on another side of fence. The only thing that keeps you from being a raging racist or homophobe(or any popular bad guy) is environment you grew up in, because you are obviously very potent in hate area. I doubt if you or any of your relatives, has ever experienced anything bad from Specialized or religion or homophobe, you seem to have some anticipatory pain disorder. Your necessity of keeping a strong negative reference point in your psyche is indeed special, no other troll here is so focused on one issue. Anyways, go to a shrink to fix at least some of this anxiety."

Considering that you have previously publicly admitted here on Pinkbike that you have a serious-sounding psychological disorder, the hypocritical irony of your statement here is off the charts. Cheers.
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 Waki: "Embrace NOW and your current location, care for the wellbeing of your friends and family and fk the world"

I like the sentiments of the first part of your statement but the last part explains why none of your ideas about what is going on in the world are relevant or backed by facts. People like you who don't pay much attention to the world but whom are eager to express their opinions are essentially loudmouths who want to be heard but don't have the intellect or information to back it up. So then you desperately resort to hateful insults as you did above when people effectively prove you are wrong about something. And this is after you were just preaching about how people shouldn't hate, lol
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 Bahahaha this is the longest thread of arguing I've ever seen on here. Goes to show what a bane religion is to the world. I like how Waki suggested Protour go to a shrink, rather than to a church. Big Grin

LMFAO @kazyamamura, yeah it is, it is too hard (impossible) to respect any religion. It's like trying to respect the MTB industry a*sholes that try to sell their bullshit. Bullshit is bullshit & preying on the feeble brained sheeple is despicable even if you blame the sheeple for being so stupid. To each his own, just be prepared for "blasphemy", 'cuz the atheists got their story too & it's the only one backed by all the evidence. Stay out mah face & we be fine, but if not then someone's gotta stand up for reason or else we may make no progress & instead go back to the dark ages. :/

Since I don't follow racing really, I'm just finding this out now, but the most hilarious thing to me is that a few months ago on some PB post I saw Gwin (never knew what he looked like before) & all I could think is that dude's got the face of a condescending religious a*shole or just a plain & simple egotist at best. Too fvckin' funny that he actually is the former, just like Dick Hannah. Hahaha. Jesus was a mulletard (if he was even real in the first place) & he ain't comin' back. Get the fvck over it bitch! }:-)
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 Funny how you go to a doctor to treat what ails you rather than a fvcking church. Talk your religious talk (supporting a resistance to progress) while you continue to on a daily basis take for granted the advances in science that enrich all our lives (the only thing that does) including your own & afford you religitards the luxury of your stupidity. You lose tremendous respect from people when you sling that shit. You're right where you wanna be huh? You sure if you had a time machine you wouldn't go back a couple thousand years to meet your hero in person? No of course you wouldn't, like getting too close to your favorite magician you might see how the trick works & then it loses its value. To be fair though, I can say that if I were to meet the Jesus from the Bible, the walking on water, healing the sick, spontaneous food creating, returning from the dead Jesus & I saw him ACTUALLY PULL THAT SHIT, I'd probably "fan out" on him too like a teenage pussy whore on the Bieb.

Anyone suggesting respect for religion is as ignorant to what religions command & ignorant to what they have done & continue to do to the world. They are as ignorant to religion as religitards are to reality. No not all religious people are bad, but they don't need to be, they just need to be "believers" & that's often all it takes to turn someone, or to bolster someone. When you do things like cast a vote based on "religious merit", you've become all the "evil" that a truly free, fair, healthy & strong society must rid if it is to be so great. Keep it to yourself, out of public affairs, out of our politics, our education, our health care, our workplaces & we'll get along fine. You live by your rules as long as you're not hurting anyone else & I'll live by mine. Do we have a deal?
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 freeride-forever: I listen a lot to lectures of Slavoj Zizek recently and I love this line of his that if someone cannot understand religions role in humans psyche and society, most of all in evolution of mankind, then he is a total idiot. I fk your mother.
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 Wakidesigns: "I fk your mother."

Such a class act you are Waki. Of course you are the most vigilant defender of religion and child molesters of all the people on Pinkbike.

In more important news, it turns out that you can convert the wheelbase of the new Demo into that of a dirt jump bike:

m.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/G-Out-Project-Fort-William-BDS-2015,8934/G-Out-Fort-William-Specialized-S-Works-Demo-8,91870/sspomer,2

Just watch out for that rebound....
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 @Session603, the point being made was not that religious people killed millions, but that they did it because of their religion. Atheist leaders may have killed millions and Kim Il-Sung was an atheist, but their victims were not killed because of these people's athiesm, instead because of many political and historical factors.
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 @mmmmm - that is what most anti-religious people don't get because they are blinded by the ideology of atheism: How about two scenarios: I am a republican coming to your town and I shoot a laser guided missile towards a neighborhood in which there is a leftist club, in aftermath killing 5 leftists and 12 civilians, then at least 50 people get to hospital, all including women and children . Then in the other scenario I come to the catholic church and kill 2 priests along 3 random civilians who happened to be there, by cutting their heads off with machete or wood saw. I film everything and post it on youtube saying Allah Akbar.

Which of scenarios points out at higher morality because it is guided by "more civilized principles"? Let's add a twist and say that priest molested several kids during the course of 5 years, of which he had sexual interourse with 7 year old girl that he threatened to kill if she told her parents? - does that make my jihadist action a bit less evil?
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 @protour, you never got what I was talking about. I don't defend religion, I am attacking ideology of supremacy of one group of human beings over another, what happens here on Pinkbike in relation to Aaron Gwins beliefs is no strive for propagation of moral behaviour, it is the opposite, it is anti-religionism with all notions of discrimination driven by the same psycholigcal projection mechanisms making people hit gay with the Bible. Prime examples of such evangelism are Ron Harris and RIP Christopher Hitchens. Atheism itself, as philosophers (Zizek) and scientists (DeGrasse Tyson) are pointing out, is an ideology - a particularly failed one, as nothing can be founded on non-existence of point of reference. Ideology just like religion, is good for masses waiting to be told what to do, get one idea and go through the rest of their life, not caring about it, not asking questions as someone else has solved the puzzle for them. Even communism has more water in it than atheism, as it has guidelines of action, not only criticism of another group in this case - capitalism. Criticism of Gwins ejaculatons is an unreasonable behavior with traces of paranoia, as there is no even slightly threatening action that anyone can make inspired by any of his words. He doesn't even praise his faith and encourage anyone to follow his religion. Furthermore there is no direct religious threat in the place they live, not even coming close to getting mortally ill or being hit by a car. In many countries considered as filled with fundamentalism, there is a higher chance of getting killed by "made in US/EU" weapon than getting your head cut off by a member of religious group. In such regions, Western military interventions are the primary sources of destabilization of economical and political situation, allowing fundamentalists to raise in power and take control (Chomsky). Many (head)cases here seem to identify themselves with science, having nothing to do with it in actual action, only posting opinions. Leave science to actual scientists, preferably professors, people entitled to express results of actual research of nature and referring to reliable sources of information, not memes and shares from "I fkng love science FB group" - another example of anti-religious witch hunt, rather than praise for reason and scientific method with it's finest fruits benefiting all mankind. Many of scientists like Brian Cox or even zealous Krauss are promoting curiosity, the idea of doubt and questioning of everything, including science, not trusting our own senses, constantly confronting their findings with other people.
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 yo god squad: STFU
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 I'm not in the God squad for fks sake...
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 waki, why do you respond to it? answer is on higher ground not in higher power. he pulled you back in like pacino in godfather.
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 i am so depressed with my current work situation that this is my only entertainment. I am a low life.
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 nonsense! hookers and blow! fresh brown pow is all ya need!
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 that and truffle butter
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 ok...i think that finishes up any happy ending.
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 Thanking god for finding a site to build a house is a bit weird you know...
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 Babies dying of AIDS in Africa, but he's got time to throw some material love Gwinners way. Pays to be a disciple.
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 He's just a good ole Christian boy we like to thank God for everything we got
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 He's LEED certified too.
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 I watched him fly down a downhill course without a tire on. God is definitely on his side.
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 God is LEED certified? Sweet!
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 1337 certified. go green
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 totally, because, if i was an omnipotent creator of universes, i would also always take the time to make sure the results of sporting events and the personal lives of my followers came out in their favor, just because they love ME and not some other omnipotent being. If i was a god i'd take care of my fan-base, i wouldn't want them to stray, otherwise i'd use my powers to smite them, and challenge them with moral dilemmas one by one, til they learned the glory of my ways.
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 Pretty common for building sites and new homes to be blessed, throughout the world/faiths.
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 LoL god related comments in 3…2….crap too late

I'm reminded of the great Dennis Leary line (paraphrased) "I was an alter boy for 7 years, i memorized the latin f**king mass but did i ever hear from the guy? No. But apparently he talks to Reggie White before the big game on sunday because as we all know, god is a huge Green Bay f**king packers fan right?"
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 Those are some pretty sick digs though! I guess there actually is some money a the top of the MTB world.
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 I think buying land and building whatever you want on it is every mountain bikers dream, i would do the same if i was in gwins shoes. Look at Dan Atherton, he built that hardline course pretty much in his back yard. Im sure he doesnt own that land, but him and guys like semenuk and gwin who have land to work with are doin it right.
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 Thanking God for finding a site to build a house on. Not weird at all for believers of God.
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 God does not exist, it's Science. Get a simple book on physics, he's is not mentioned in it so he can't be real.
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 lol youre funny
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 yes it's not weird, but he's overdoing it a bit
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 Funny , if he'd dropped the F Bomb 100x and talked about banging hookers and beating up haters you'd have been like "oh heck yeah!" But he mentions His Savior and you flip out.
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 Science doesn't say god doesn't exist. Science simply shows the fact that its so unlikely that "it" exists, that you might as well live your life as if there's no god.
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 WAKI - you're totally right! Sometime ago, atoms also weren't mentioned in physics, so I guess they didn't exist back then.
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 @WAKIdesigns you're right about the science books, but your conclusion isn't
@downhilladdict word!
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 no ones flipping out. I think people just find it amusing when someone says they think whatever it is that created life the universe and everything, is also responsible for their personal good fortune (but not the other guys misfortune).
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 I mean, there's no proof that god doesn't exist. So you cant argue that it doesnt. But.....CMOOONNNN
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 waki = life of the party
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 Amen.
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 If we were to be really intellectual, how about we start with what is God and what Aaron thinks God is? Man in the Sky? Man with Jackals head? Dude on the street? Do we mean, God, or Religion? How the F can we know who Gwin thinks God is and criticize him based on our perception? How retarded is that? What is science, what do you mean by science? I know every pop-theists are fluent mathematicians, physicists and biologists, but what about Geology, Spanish Philology? Does Economy make some God unlikely to exist? Maybe History, that's one of my favorite sciences aside of nutritional science! Oh man when I eat crispy bacon I see God. Just like when I have a good day on my bike, or good sex, or sometimes even good jerk off (which is bad for my eyes) I see God in the Church and in dogs poo, sunset, carbon wheel, and pus of a fatally ill child, and in the mirror of course and I also read his messages to me and everyone else. Sorry He/She/it has many names like downhilladdict or jaycubzz, karlburkat or bigburd. It just is. I am you, you are me, you are you. You are God, God is you, God is God. God is, there is no God. All at the same time. You know it God. I will speak to God now: Hi guys! Do I need to agree with anyone? Off course I don't but when I say it I feel connection with the universe, we are star dust! And in 200k years which is a fart in history all that humanity will be is a film thin best visible in a glacier cut out... so CHILL THE FK OUT!!!
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 downhilladdict = spock

too much logic for PB to digest
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 Dont get me wrong waki! Im not judging anyone for their beliefs. Sound like Aaron looks up the this Jesus fellow. And as far as I know he was a pretty great dude.
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 waki, youre wasting pixels. even as a trained scientist i will not get into this debate because it's not worth it. i don't believe/trust anyone but myself, and science just pays the bills. pretty simple. arguing diminishes the effort i put into avoiding anxiety ie. talking to people about politics, religion, drugs, etc. LIVE AND LET LIVE is what i say.
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 cuban-b, some trained scientists called psychologists can put you straight, and explain you some stuff, like religion - check it out! Live and let live is fantastic, it's just we got to repeat it to some people or they won't get it. Can I get my own cult now? First rule - Slack&low, second: Long reach short dick
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 Treat others the way youd like to be treated. And I was referring to science as a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explications and predictions about nature and the universe.
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 explinations*
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 I meant on harm downhilladdict, I meant that we all deal with our spirituality in one way or another and in the end it all matters everything to us, and nothing to the universe. One must pick a game worth playing or he will go crazy. Aaron is playing his game damn well, and God, whatever it means to him, is obviously a huge part of who he is and what he has achieved, one can't take it away and get "a better Gwin", all you could get would be "a different Gwin" and he may not be riding bikes in such case. So if he does matter to somebody as a mountain biker, then he either takes the whole package or keep on deluding himself, which is... more than fine!
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 I agree 100%
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 Amen to that! ridesmoothbro
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 and on the 7th day "he"(insert your preference here) created race day. which falls directly after qualis or may be rescheduled due to weather conditions
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 waki you rule
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 flag friendlyfoe (2 hours ago)
no ones flipping out. I think people just find it amusing when someone says they think whatever it is that created life the universe and everything, is also responsible for their personal good fortune (but not the other guys misfortune)

Here's my 2Cents...
"God gives us all skills, He gives us talents and He gives us direction and motivation. He watches over all his believers. When it's race time we put our skills against each other. At the end of the day A Christian could win or an atheist could win. The difference is a Christian will thank His God for all the good things he's givin him to work with to help get the win. But notice how Aaron thanks his God even when misfortune comes along....good things do come from bad situations. Being thankful in this world is something we all can learn from.

A lot can happen in a race, it doesn't mean God favors one racer over another, it's just good to know He's on your side and has your back. Aaron obviously believes his God is involved in his life and he's not afraid to put a shout out to Jesus! That takes Balls, it takes Balls to ride at his level, so don't get so worked up if he puts a shout out in his interview.
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 the interesting thing is, especially as it realtes to your last comment there @WAKIdesigns, is that the power of the placebo is scientifically proven. So whether or not God exists does'nt really matter. People like Gwin believe that he does, and that belief does effect people in real and quantifiable ways, sometimes for the better of humanity, sometimes for worse.
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 How'd you know God didn't create science?
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 @Blaenavonbutt Because mankind created god in first place.
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 It seems if worship and prayer were actual catalysts for change the world would be a lot better, but its not….AG should just take more credit for himself i think, as well as others. if god is real, he's exceptionally cruel and doesn't deserve worship.
Trust yourself and keep a close eye on the idiots and a-holes of the world. you will get farther with intelligence than religious fear and head trips could ever get you.
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 Aaron Gwin is a cool guy who rides bikes fast has an awesome life and believes in God. Moving on...
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 @reallybigmantis People are cruel, not God. Price we gotta pay for real free will. And people are cruel because they're not getting enough love.
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 downhills prophets!!!! thank you for your opinions and PinkBike for letting you parle it!
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 God is real?? God isnt real?? Im a 17 years old boy and I studied all years of my life in a christian school. Sometimes I believed in God, sometimes didnt. But one thing I learn in my search for God (in Christianity, Buddhism and even kabbalism), it is that life is too much complicated, and we shouldnt complicate it more. God loves U!!! Maybe say this to U really dont makes any difference, with your good life and a beautiful Demo, but it really makes difference in a heart of a poor, abandoned, street child, why?? Hope. That is why God is not dead for me and for that child. Because in ours (maybe ignorant) hearts we still needs Him. Science is good, it can find the cure of cancer, but it unfortunately cant help me find happiness. In a world with wars and ebola, with isis and atomic bombs I need God, because I need hope. I need him to keep pedaling in this crazy world.

Doesnt matter if U belive in God or in Hope, we are in the same team!!

Sometime ago I knew a man who used to say(he died for cancer)= " God dont allows bad things happen. He supports it "
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 And maybe you are forgetting what life is about... not only bikes, sex and beers. MCMbiker
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 Waki: "If we were to be really intellectual, how about we start with what is God and what Aaron thinks God is?"

He loves to talk about Jesus and hopes to spread the good word so he is obviously a evangelical Christian who probably believes God created the world in 7 days and that good boys and girls go to heaven for eternity while rational unbelievers are destined to burn in hell for eternity.
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 Hey that's what you get when your book was written by someone who lived roughly 1700 years before we knew the earth was round.
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 Damn, what world do you live in? I thought people only spoke like that in trashy circles, i personally like people who are discrete about religious beliefs/politics/and who they bang, it makes for healthy relationships when every other word you say isn't democrats/republican, hoes, or god your rationale usually is not very present, thats why i love pinkbike, no god, no hoes and no politics, just bikes!
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 I love wakis diatribes because you get to sit through a few posts of hilarious seething social commentary in order to finally arrive at an articulate and thoughtful statement, and hoes.
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 You are commenting on an interview with Aaron Gwin. His faith (belief system) is important to him and is a lens through which he clearly frames much of his experience. His reality includes God. While I don't really know what to include in the deity checkbox of my own reality if anything, aside from doing my best to not be a dick to those whose ways of organizing the world differ from mine, that doesn't really matter because this isn't an interview of me, or protour, or anyone other than Aaron Gwin. The world can be a shitty place and Aaron Gwin seems like a nice guy who is happy...so congrats on that and I hope it continues. Last season was great and I'm looking forward to another action packed season. All the best to Gwin for this season.
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 There is this weird belief that spirituality or religion is a thing of the undeveloped man, while in fact it develops as everything else, so sorry, but some parts of the world are not undeveloped, because they haven't got enough technology and science, and they live deep in religious belief, they are also undeveloped because certain systems of power have kept their spirituality on ancient or medieval level. Best example of this is progressive Christians that will rarely if ever rely on Old Testament. We have Jesus - Bible V2.0, which in fact is probably even V3.9 or 6.7 these days as even the New Testament has been changed several times aaaaaand that is not a proof of failure of God concept, that is a proof of progression of belief. Christianity has added a lot of stuff on top of teachings of Jesus, like Trinity concept, which slowly fades away and I can put it in a way that we actually get closer to Jesus, than we have ever been. The most fascinating thing to me is the masculinity of religious debate, in all religions and most sciences it is the men keeping their hand on the "truth" and spreading it to the world, imposing it on the world. Meanwhile it is the women who psychologically have the best link to the spiritual realm, the concept of a "muse" the dream bringer, insipiration is ever present. So I say, the more "manly" is the discussion, the more cocky it gets, the more likely it is to be off the course. Check yourself on that!

Christianity, Catholicism, in the form I was fortunate to be introduced with, has led me to where I am today and I am happy to say that I met God, I saw it in me and in others, but It separated itself from Religion in my belief, and currently I am sensing my spirituality to be separate from God which remains as nothing less and at the same time nothing more but a wonderful possibility. I believe I am an atheist in most ways, but I find it smallest to condemn religion and resent God whatever people think it means.
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 bieber, ohlins, fbook, sam hill, bigfoot, bacon, nickelback, whistler, one direction, beer. no science or religion can explain... yet it all exist...together. congrats to gwin on making a successful life in the sport we love. he thanks who he thanks...nbfd.
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 Cmon, everybody knows that Jesus is the lead singer of nickelback - just look at the guy!!
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 Is psychology a science?
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 psychiatry is. maybe that's what he meant.
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 I just switched to Geico, and saved 15% on my life insurance and took away 5 years off my life by thinking I can ride faster without any worries!
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 @Waki, the problem with your theory about the New Testament is that the verses in the NT actually tell Christians to obey the Old Testament, so that flushes your idea down the toilet, which is where the Bible belongs. Do you obey the verse in the OT that says you should stone your wife to death if you find out she is not a virgin when you marry her?

The Catholic church is one of the worst perversions of Christianity in modern times. How many thousands of children were molested by perverted, barbaric Catholic priests who are forced to remain single because of the stupid ideology of the Catholic church? Take a guess. It's also the worst of Christianity in that so many Catholics are hypocrites who are complete drunks. Then you have the whole dumb pope thing going on to top it off, although the new pope isn't nearly half the idiot the old one is. Honestly, I can't believe anybody would be proud to state they are still a Catholic in this day and age. By doing so you are essentially saying you condone sexual assault on innocent children. I look forward to the Catholic church going bankrupt from all the sexual assault that it hid and actually promoted for so many years.
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 Negative rep because of the failure to identify that the actions of the organization as a whole do not reflect the ideology of the majority who practice it. Not to mention there are so many more pertinent points as to why the bible is ridiculous that you could site, but don't.

Just let this die. If people want to believe, you will never convince them otherwise. It's willful ignorance, much in the same way that the majority of people who eat pork from the grocery store choose to ignore the fact that the industry is based on keeping female pigs in gestation crates for 2/3 of their life. Most people choose to be ignorant of the things they don't want to think about.
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 "Building this place has been a big step of faith for me in a lot of ways and I really prayed that God would bring about the perfect spot. He's far exceeded my wants and needs with this place and I'm extremely thankful"

Damn, I think I need to start praying as well if this is the sort of stuff God gives out!
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 i thought it was 10 guy
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 No love for the realtor.
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 lol
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 That's funny!@rewob
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 he gives you a few KTMs as well
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 remember pray just to god and you will get what you want. And don't give up!
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 Hahahahahaha!!! Maybe the realtors name was Jesus son of GODfrey who went by God! And found Aarons perfect spot!! Just saying
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 @rewob i lol'd
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 He gave my christian friend a 4 month station in some shitty port in Togo. Gwin gets his dream house. I guess it comes down to which side of the bed he wakes up on that morning! Still though, better than another genocide from the merciful being.
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 Cut the guy a break...

I don't believe in God, but I sure as sh*t believe in his right to say he does.

I also believe that 99% of those criticizing him here would never have the guts to say these things to his face.

Courage takes all sorts of shapes... And so does cowardice. Which one applies to you?
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 Aaron seems like such a nice guy, keeping it real with himself, good interview PB!
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flag tuumbaq (Feb 25, 2015 at 9:53) (Below Threshold)
 Religions have killed millions of people over the years and thousand are still being murdered in this day and age...I would have zero concern saying anyone supporting religions how moronic they are...The guy may have his believe , good for him, now to tell the rest of the world how fucking Jesus is great, isnt professional for one bit and sure lack some serious ethical sense in my opinion...
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 There is a lot of peaceful and reasonable religious people at the same time its a lot of violent not believers out there, just the fact that someone believes is not something he or she should be judge from. Aaron has never said something remotely controversial, from my view he do have some strange way to reason about things for but it's not at all offensive. I'm not a believer but I believe in the freedom to believe and the freedom to express it as long as it does not hurt others. I think its great that Aaron can be open about it, he seems genuine.
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 Russian and Chinese Atheist/Secularist Revolution- Death Toll conservative estimate= 100Million people


and you were saying?
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 Tubaq - you are most probably referring Muslim religion or rather Muslim fundamentalists of Wahhabist movement of which ISIS is a direct descendent. An idea that we all have to go back to middle ages cuz it was all cool then. (not that Christians haven't murdered in the name of God) but I strongly recommend you to take a deeper look into the case before you blame religion for raise of such terrible powers. Thank Uncle Sam and Brits, they have lots to do with it by completely destabilizing the region and sending it to stone age through the last 100 years.
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 Ironically, the ideology of Communism, where no deity is recognised, is responsible for more deaths than all of the world's religions combined. To blame religion for the death of millions of people is removing any responsibility humans have for their own actions. The common denominator here is human beings and our hatred and distrust of anything that doesn't suit our own way of thinking: mock it, fight it, kill it, eradicate it. Aaron Gwin was hardly ramming his belief down our throats. Leave the lad alone.
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 Couldn't have said it better!
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 Except for that I believe in God!
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 @preach @simirving you speak the truth!!
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 yea it fascinates me how people throwing crap at religion in an angry manner, calling religious people all sorts of insults, don't realize that it is the very same mechanism in their heads, that makes other people hit homosexuals with the Bible. Hate is hate, object of it is irrelevant, it causes same sort of crap in the world. Getting on a high moral horse is a prime sign of having messed up values, it awlays leads to conclusion that "the end justifies the means".
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 Waki equating intellectual criticism with homophobic violence. Reading some of your hypocritical comments and insults above you directed at me, I would say you have the most hatred of anybody here. But it's very inconsistent, sort of Jekyll & Hyde, depending upon your inconsistent mood.
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 Haha, has Aaron Gwin seen the music video for "Seeing Double At The Triple Rock"?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9D_W1PbQc
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 this ^^

hahaha
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 Classic.
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 I helped film that video. I used to work at the Triple Rock too. So rad to see Gwin getting down to this jam.
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 "A 30 second-ish downhill track" ... that's like 3 minutes for the rest of us!
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 I wonder if baby Jesus is building his house?
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 Jesus has a few babies he needs to feed. So he'll probably get picked up at HomeDepot for the project.
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 That was fantastic.
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 6 pound, 7 ounce Baby Jesus a la Ricky Bobby.
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 He's in SoCal, chances are lots of guys names Jesus will be working on that house.
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 jesus wept ... when he moved to specialized
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 I like to picture Jesus in an enduro half-shell and goggles. Cause it says, like, I want to ride XC but I'm here to bomb dh also.
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 ^ yeah his stage name is tinker juarez, who you still see shredding in big bear every once in a while. the hairdo gives it away
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 So many hater comments I had to stop reading. I normally don't comment but had to here.
It says a lot about his character when he stands up for what he believes in even though he knows he will constantly be bashed for it. It's like clockwork whenever he says something about God, he gets pummeled by ignorant comments. It's sad. My kids look up to him because he chooses not to be a part of the "party" side of racing/life. Matter of fact I do too. Keep it up.
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 This comment should be given more props!
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 sick article, cool to find out what Gwin get up to in free time, I guess you say he ... Gwinning at life! Wink
also first comment
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 Good read! Reasons why Aaron Gwin continues to be one of my favorite riders. Centered and solid, because he has a relationship with God. Love that.
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 the God part is OK
but do you really care about the people living in his neighbourhood?
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 Really proud of Gwin for not being afraid to show his Christian character. I already had tremendous respect for the guy, but this definitely makes him a champion as far as I'm concerned regardless of what he accomplishes on a bike.
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 Religulous people are horrible at defending religion, but great at rooting for people who believe in their particular religion theirparents indoctrinated them with. Go delusion!
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 Seriously! So good
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 Protour I think you might be confused
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 No he's right. We need to do away with this free speech bs, if someone mentions god, religion or anything he does not like that person needs to be punished. Maybe one day we can send them to jail, for now we have the PB keyboard warriors to maintain order in the world.
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 I'm all for free speech, especially the freedom to call out people for expressing horribly irrational religious ideas.
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 And exercising that freedom is what makes you such a dam good internet troll
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 And which "horribly irrational religious ideas" were presented here?
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 You seem to misunderstand free speech. No one is judging him for saying what he thinks, people are judging his character, based on what he has said. Thats the entire point of free speech! You are very welcome to air any views you want, just as everyone else is very welcome to air any views they have on what you said.

Sorry MtChauncey, I meant to downvote you, but my temperamental mouse had other ideas. the irrational religious idea was that god found him that plot of land, not the realtor, or the developer who thought "this would be a nice place for a house, I will dedicate lots of time and money into this investment and make some profit, and provide someone with a sweet location to build a house!"
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 You seem to think that ALL he did was pray and he acquired the land. No. And that's not what Christians believe either. It's called faith. Having FAITH that God will provide what you need if you indeed need it.
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 Using all-caps doesn't make your irrational religious ideas any more convincing.
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 I'm not trying to convince you. call them irrational if you please. To each their own.
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 Braap!
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 i was surprise about all the comments about God, but really gwin is such a nice guy, we need more of these people these days.....
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 To find an empty lot to build a house in So. Cal is pretty amzaing, to find a lot like that one is even more amazing, and the fact he the cash flow to purchase the lot and build a house...have to say now we know why the new Demo cost as much as it does.
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 Aren't developers having lots of problems with these houses built on man made plateaus slipping off the hills round there ? Thought I watched a documentary about it , was all these hyper luxury pads sliding down the hills
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 "SoCal" is huge. From what I know, there is a lot of open space in Temecula (sorta in between LA and San Diego) and the surrounding hills, which is likely where he has roosted (he's from there or has lived there for some time).
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 ^This is true. Lots of undeveloped areas and amazing riding in San Bernardino and Riverside Counties. Not so much in Los Angeles, Orange, or San Diego counties.
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 Woah. I was never a huge fan of Gwin, however, this is put so well I might reconsider:
"I've found that in racing, the only thing you can 100% control is the effort that you put in. If you give it everything you have, then you have to be happy. What else can you do?"
That's just such a great inspiration to keep motivated at racing, even if things take a turn for the worse!

Also, I couldn't help but look up the Sam Hill Batman guy: cdn2.coresites.mpora.com/mpora_new/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Meribel-Downhill-MTB-World-Cup-2014-2100.jpg - AMAZEBALLS

And NOFX. This Gwin guy is reasonable I suppose.

On the contrary, NOFX's "You're wrong" might upset that Jesus guy a fair bit. Or bring him to the mosh pit! Well maybe not, it's too slow..
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 Maybe it's time to knock the atheism on the head and get in with the God squad...
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 Aaron maybe you could do a reallity show/build of your new home, from design through finish including the Dh, Pump & Trials laps to wrap her up. Think you are pretty much living the dream and we could all live vicariously through your eyes and the whole process, just a suggestion, pretty sure you'd have a good following, I know I'd watch. Just for kicks you could throw ina karaoke night with the neighbours.
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 Or he could do a show like Bubba's World. I'd watch that.
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 That would be HUGE for exposing people to this sport and getting it more mainstreamed, especially in the U.S. I would LOVE to see a show like that start up!! Kinda reminds me of the things Claw & Zink have been doing!
  • + 9
 American bike rider who believes in God.....whats the big deal?
  • + 5
 For f*#k sakes, the man has right to believe in one of the major religions of the world, just as a atheist has the right to not believe. He seems like a solid good dude, and a great rider.
If you are a Christian, you are suppose thank Jesus as he does. He is not trying to jam it down on you, he is just being his true christian self.
Aron, I hope you are not reading all this crap. Wish you the best.
  • + 1
 I liked your comment cause I agreed with it and think it was well-said, but you really should spell his name right; just saying Smile
  • + 4
 AG: one of my favourites riders to watch. period. but, I wonder what the reaction would be if he happened to call his God Ahllah?
divinity, creator, whatever, exists to me thats for sure, but I think that putting a name is like putting the detonator on a bomb, ready to spread the worst if not handled with care, sad but true.
so, for me, IT is something way above all these freaking comments and comparisons. peace
now lets have a laugh or two with wakis answerrrr haha
  • + 4
 So what that Aaron gave thanks where he felt thanks was due? As for God, it's equally impossible to prove He doesn't exist, scientifically speaking. It's estimated that humans know less than 2-3% of the total knowledge in the universe, so the missing 97% we haven't even discovered yet could hold clues in that regard. To me, a design points to a designer, like if someone hung a picture on a tree, you don't see the artist but his picture is proof of his existence.
Just a thought...
  • + 4
 Haven't you noticed the ones commenting so negatively seem to the most angry. God bless them they need it.
  • + 1
 Yeah, and Christians aren't condescending at all.
  • + 1
 You mean SOME Christians are condescending, just like any other faith, you have both good and bad apples. Even Jesus Himself had to correct and rebuke His own apostles in this way multiple times, so no one is immune from becoming that way. Those Christians who act like that, have drifted away or have a jaded/self centered view how how one should act when claiming to have faith in Christ like that. Also, just become some Christians act condescending doesn't get a person off the hook because everyone needs redemption, that was the point of Jesus allowing Himself to go to the cross. If that wasn't the case then He would have just left an outline about how to save yourself without having to accept Him as Lord.
  • + 1
 Why does "everyone need redemption"?

This whole idea of being saved from satan and his evil temptations that are largely up to personal interpretations of the often contradictory Bible is so intellectually ridiculous that It's difficult for me to even comprehend that modern human beings subscribe to it in large numbers. And why do you bike for Christ? What does that mean? You can't simply bike for your own enjoyment, or because it's healthy? Now you are going to tell me that Jesus Christ inspires you to ride, right? Save it. But have a nice ride.

All religions are illegitimate, even the one your parents indoctrinated you with.
  • + 1
 Think of all the time you spent replying to every pro AG or pro religion comment all while changing nothing.
  • + 1
 Yes, there is human interpretation which often times is the cause of the quote on quote "biblical mistakes." Then there's the truth that Jesus Christ spoke all you have to do is read about his life and you come to a point where either you accept what he says and what he did on the cross or not but in the end its your choice to make. Though God is a loving God He's also just. You can't have real love without true justice, just like when a family goes to great lengths to put away a criminal who killed one of their own.
In the end, I simply defend my faith and am not out to necessarily change someone's views, that's for God to do once the seed is planted.
  • + 1
 You've been praying for me haven't you? I can sense it.
  • + 4
 That Leogang run of his was so incredibly sick, I remember standing there when he came down to the finish area, thinking: How is he still going?! Plain crazy. Looking forward to seeing how his season is going to turn out, what with so many skilled riders out there...
  • + 8
 Pics of the "Batman" dude??
  • + 2
 and his sidekick Wink
  • + 1
 @MrDuck : I can tell you this is typical french apparel, nothing special here.
  • + 3
 Protour every one knows you're trolling but I'll take the bait and jump in to the religion debate. A popular secular buzz word is tolerance. Radical Muslims behead Christians at random around the world and the main stream apologies to the Muslim community for the bad press. Worse even are people like you who bash Christians for radical Muslim behavior under the broad umbrella of religion in general. If AG was openly gay and he thanked his boyfriend would you go on a gay bashing rant. Tolerance for everyone except Christians. Seams hypocritical to me.
  • + 1
 Christians are actually largely responsible for beheadings from ISIS so it's not hypocritical at all to criticize them:

theweek.com/articles/445054/blame-obama-evangelicals-persecution-iraqi-christians

But Gwinm publicly obsessing over his dream house is completely hypocritical of a Christian, according to the Bible itself:

www.openbible.info/topics/material_wealth
  • + 1
 So the Christians in Iraq provoked them and I guess they had it coming? What about the attacks on innocent people around the world, France, Australia, USA, and Canada ? So you interpret AG's gratitude with pride and vanity. As someone who does not believe in God would you begrudge him these material things ? Or is it a matter of playing the hypocrite card ? Since your going to use Bible references, Jesus said judge not lest you be judged.
  • + 5
 He can go to China and teach fresh man like me how to ride MTB , there are many funs in China
  • + 2
 There was a Japanese guy who raced worlds this year; I can speak for myself that I usually don't see riders from countries in that region of the world racing at the highest level too much. The guy was back a bit, near like 50th place, so it makes sense to not see him much during the majority of the season, but I think it'd be cool to see more riders from countries like Japan and China; the more diversity in this sport the better it will grow if you ask me!
  • + 2
 In the USA , if a kid want to be a UCI racer , how old does he begin to ride MTB ? And in the USA , is there professional coaches to teach MTB skills ? In China , we can only learn MTB skills through videos no one tells us how to do , we just talk with other riders and learn from each other .
  • + 2
 Gwin has been trying to start up programs to help kids get into the sport at earlier ages; in a few years those programs will really be prevalent and noticed. It's similar to how guys like Steve Peat did well for the UK and now, a while later, there's tons of guys who got into the sport back when Peaty was on top who are huge contenders; guys like the Athertons, Brycland, Hart, etc... (apologies for name spelling errors)
  • + 3
 We went to AG Day at Bigbear. Did a group lap following Gwin, I won a tld jersey, & Gwin signed it! It was a great crowd, and he couldnt have been a nicer guy.

But we both forgot to talk about religion...weird
  • + 6
 Oh dear, these comments…. Grow up kids.
  • + 2
 Did anyone not know that Gwin is a Jesus freak? Most Americans are and he is very proudly American. I thought he was very restrained in talking about his beliefs compared to how much he is into them. It's good to know there are so many non-religious people on PB but why are you complaining so aggressively about someone everyone knew was very Christian? Almost no believers took the bait. I feel bad for how offended Gwin must be if he gets this kind of reaction to his interviews all the time. Remember All belief systems require you to accept assumptions. Even the philosophy of Mathematics upon which science is based.
It was good to have an insight into Gwin's awesome life and I hope we can have more American champions following in his footsteps.
  • + 3
 "I've found that in racing, the only thing you can 100% control is the effort that you put in. If you give it everything you have, then you have to be happy. What else can you do?"

Nice.
  • + 6
 I'd like to have his thoughts about Eric Carter's departure...
  • + 3
 I think it's time to do a regular MT"B" Cribs show. We all have seen Cedric's killer house. Aaron's place sounds like it's going to be crazy awesome too.

Seems like a really down to earth and chill guy. Great interview.
  • + 1
 If he were thanking Buddha or any other bogus faith none of this conversation/criticism would be happening. People are offended and threatened when they hear about Jesus. The fact that he mentions Asians is a non factor. He is being observant "out loud" better to just keep all that to himself. No one cares expect to bash him for sounding raciest.
  • + 1
 Good interview PB to bad the comment section -attempted- to ruin the positive mojo you where aiming for. Good news is I'm a bigger fan now then ever knowing Gwinn believes in the big-guy upstairs. God be with ya Gwinny!!! brappp!!!
  • + 4
 People across the world need to shut the hell up about things they believe and cannot prove.
  • + 5
 I'd thank God too if he gave me a Ford Raptor.
  • + 5
 The FOX pich-up man are you serious ?????



I want it
  • + 5
 Flogging Religion... The PB Way. lol
  • - 1
 The believers will be repaid for their intellectual humiliation on judgement day with a lifetime in the clouds singing praises and playing golden harps.
  • + 0
 You should keep that kinds of heinous threat to yourself. Uttering Death Threats can be considered a criminal offence..
  • + 1
 Not a lifetime an eternity. Not golden harps but praising God with music, dancing, mountain biking, surfing etc, etc. If Christians are wrong what eternal sleep. But if your wrong eternal separation from God which equates to eternal suffering. In the heart of every person is a God shaped vacuum and we try to fill it with all kinds of selfish garbage. I'l bet deep down you still haven't made up your mind or you wouldn't be stirring up this debate. I'm going to say a prayer for you Protour.
  • + 1
 "If Christians are wrong what eternal sleep."

After a lifetime of complete delusion about your existence. But it's your life so whatever.

If my kind wasn't made up, nobody said anything on here that leads me to believe any religion has any legitimacy.

Muslims actually believe something very similar to what Christians believe about eternity, but that doesn't make it any more convincing. The two religions are essentially cousins that have a closely linked history.
  • + 1
 So why do you (and most atheist) hate Jesus Christ specifically. You are infuriated with Aaron Gwinn for thanking Jesus for blessing him and you defend Muslims for hacking of peoples heads with pocket knives. When Muslims fly planes in to buildings Atheists blame religion. Don't blame Christians blame Muslims. When the Christian church is the only effective body in regards to humanitarian relief efforts after Hurricane Katrina the secular left give credit to "faith based organizations" Again let's be specific with credit and blame where it is do.
  • + 1
 In regards to a life that is delusional. If you spend your life trying to honor God by serving others, knowing you are forgiven in the times you make mistakes. I think that life will leave a lasting legacy regardless of the eternal outcome. Who's lives have you touched and in what way ? How are you going to be remembered ?
  • + 1
 In regard to Christianity and Muslim being closely linked. 1+1=1 and 1+1=2 are nearly identical addition equations but only one of them is right. Instead of dismissing mathematics all together you check the math. I know that is a simple illustration but I hope you see my point. Again, I think you are still looking for answers. God loves you and Jesus is how we are restored to him and he is the only way to fill that emptiness in side of you.
  • + 1
 Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and it's fine to be proud of it, but please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around... and PLEASE don't try to shove it down the throats of children.
  • + 1
 I don't think thanking God qualifies as ramming his beliefs down anyone's throat. Americans have freedoms that include speech and religion. You don't have to agree with him but you should tolerate his beliefs.
  • + 1
 Is that your intolerance i hear?
  • + 1
 Huh... no, not at all. I'm not telling you to keep your opinion to your self. Let me try to sum this up and you tell me if you agree or disagree and if it's the latter, on a specific point or entirely, please explain why. I believe Aaron Gwin was simply making an off hand comment because he is a sincere Christian. In this country and the civilized world in general, he can do that. I don't believe he was trying to provoke a religious debate, and if he was it's irrelevant. You can't control the speech or action of others nor should you want to. You can, however, control how you react to it. Protour decided to initiate a religious debate, which is his right and privilege in a free and civilized world. It is also my right to share my take and opinion also. When Protour states that Christians provoked ISIS, even if that were true it does not justify the beheading of people who disagree with you. If I felt provoked by Aaron Gwinn religious references would you say he had it coming if I hacked his head off with a pocket knife.
  • + 1
 You are right, Gwin has every right to say ridiculous, hypocritical things. And non-religious people have every right to point out he is saying ridiculous, hypocritical things.
  • + 1
 You replied to a couple of posts stating that no one has said anything to change your mind in to buying in to their religion. I have a vague idea of what you don't believe. I'm curious, do you have a clear and defined understanding of what you DO believe? Would you consider yourself an Atheist, a deist, or an agnostic?
  • + 1
 You can continue to be curious. It's personal information that I don't necessarily feel obligated to share with everyone.
  • + 1
 No wonder no one has been able to change your mind. You would rather bash others for their convictions then to share your own. Jesus said those who boast about me on Earth I will boast about to God in Heaven and those who are ashamed of me on Earth I will be ashamed of in heaven. No one is cramming their christian beliefs down your throat by thanking God or sharing Jesus but on the same token we are not ashamed of our beliefs either. Hey if you aren't ashamed of your beliefs maybe you can show me the error of my ways. What did you call me "delusional". After blasting Aaron Gwinns off hand comment I would think you would leap at the chance to take apart my ancient superstition with your high minded intellect.
  • + 1
 In regards to exposing how ridiculous Gwins (or my) statements are. You have not shared anything at all to express or expose WHY you feel that way. I will share a point or an illustration and you just reply with name calling. Allow me to address your statement in regards to his hypocrisy. Could he do more to help others with his wealth than buy a huge truck or build his dream house. Absolutely. Jesus changes our hearts and lives but it's a process. It doesn't happen over night and the conviction needs to come from God not you.Mother Teresa lived her life in poverty and danger trying to help others and share Christ and she would not have judged him for how he spends his wealth. Think of it this way. We. both smoke cigarettes and one day you decide to quit. You tell me that it's hurting your athletic performance in the short term and your worried about serious long-term consequences. I tell you that the risks are exaggerated and the stimulant effect is better than Red Bull. You cut back and then quit altogether. One day in a moment of weakness you smoke because it's highly addictive and hard to quit. Then I jump down your throat and call you a hypocrite. You don't become perfect when you become a Christian you become forgiven. Just like in my cigarette analogy you weren't a hypocrite for slipping up and smoking but I was in denial about the risk of smoking because I enjoyed it and didn't want to give it up. Aaron Gwin is not a hypocrite for thanking God and acumulating wealth but you are in denial over needing a Savior to pay the penalty for your selfish life.
  • + 1
 You wouldn't be sharing it with anyone. This is an anonymous forum.
  • + 1
 Dude, when someone is living for Jesus it intertwines into everything in your life. If someone is interviewing you asking about what's going on and you're trying to give honest answers, how honest would they be if you didn't mention God? In an age of folks that don't believe ripping people that do, I think it's courageous to be forthright about it. Mock all you want, but if that's who he's living for, isn't it just him keeping it real to talk about it? If I'm supposed to respect your worldview to not believe in God, shouldn't I expect the same in return that I do? I agree that there are plenty of religious folks that lack tact when they talk about it, and that is a shame.

Call it the opiate for the masses if you want, but I believe and it has changed my life. I'm not going to hit someone over the head with my Bible, but I'm also not going to deny my creator and the compass of my life if someone asks me a question where mentioning it is pertinent. Good on ya Aaron. Keep rippin' and keeping it real in all respects.

Feel free to PM me if you think I'm an idiot or if you want to talk like a grown up about it. Have a great day everyone.
  • + 4
 Thanx God for the new TLD gear! Camo rules!
  • + 1
 he at least changed 3 times for the interview
  • + 1
 He has a lot of TLD kit to show off. One of the pictures looks like it is from the recent TLD post.
  • + 1
 I wonder if God helped the designers on this one. Camo for the reference to wars between religions? I don't know. Only He knows, right?
  • + 3
 Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe God is Allah. Calling for the beheading of Japanese journalists one day, finding this great lot for Gwin's new house the next. Wow. He has many interests hey?
  • + 2
 Maybe a multiple personality disorder? Though here we have to put things in perspective: Gwin naïvely sharing a belief that God helped him find a land and harm noone, and those brutal psychopath using God to actually unleash their wildest behaviour and satisfy their barbarian needs. Not the same.
  • + 3
 Wow, I didn't expect so many comments about religion on a North American website. Great Biker, great interview.
  • + 2
 So cool hat he shared his Faith in Jesus. We need more people like him!!!!!!!
  • + 3
 AG do you like ganja??? CA has the best in the world!!!
  • + 3
 BRAAAP it bro....were cheering for you!
  • + 2
 Watched part of the video and didn't care for that but I like Gwin and am happy for your new season, go get em.
  • + 10
 what video?
  • + 0
 Someone posted this link to the band's video that he liked.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d9D_W1PbQc
  • + 1
 Aaron Gwin thanks for bringing Jesus up! Don't leave him at home. Really means a lot to a fellow brother in Christ to see you representing Jesus.
  • + 1
 Start races up in Big Beat? Sign me up, be great since really Fontana is the only closest one so it'd be great to see a new course that is close and will probably be killer!
  • + 1
 As soon as the management at Bear dies off they can talk about races. So I heard on the chairlift anyway. Insurance or whatever.
  • + 3
 Dude snow summit was sold to the owners of mammoth in October '14. so dh racing might be coming back to summit sooner than you think.
  • + 2
 Yeah, plus I'm sure Gwin will help lay it out and make a good track, so if there is a race up there any time soon. Should be a damn good course I see coming.
  • + 2
 I hope your guys optimism pays off.
  • + 3
 Just..WOW!!!
Amazing how FEW intellectuals on PB.
God......really????
  • + 3
 You must be an intellectual right?

Condescending douche? Really?
  • + 2
 referencing the big guy upstairs is very 80's. it just doesnt have the panache that it once did.
  • + 3
 Blame it on the moto influence.
  • + 3
 listen and scroll youtu.be/N-aK6JnyFmk
  • + 2
 was expecting a video with this song when i clicked HA
  • + 1
 I really dig the hairdos
  • + 2
 Met him closing weekend at snow summit summit and he seemed very cool. He does not take off his helmet.
  • + 1
 www.socalenduroseries.com/calender.html socal enduro series has two races at big bear this year. Not sure what trails yet, but they'll be three stages and lift access.
  • + 3
 They do races on the forest service trails. Had some XC and "Enduro" stuff last year using the lifts to get up the hill. No DH stuff (or any riding) in the park though.
  • + 0
 I went riding with him, and a few other buddies in SoCal a few months back when the season was over. Awesome chill guy, and a hell of a rider! We took him to a trail he had never been to and he left us in the dust.
  • + 2
 I met Gwin at interbike last year, super down to earth dude.
  • + 1
 You're welcome for the support Gwinn, I will come for a tour of your new house once its finished.
  • + 2
 Smash 'em in 2015!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
  • + 0
 Mastodon. If Gwinnys talk about God makes you never want to buy a Speci again well good! Cause ya wouldn't know what todo with it anway ya Joey!
  • + 1
 There are a few shots in there from Skidmarx in Lake Elsinore/Wildomar. Pretty cool seeing a local trail!
  • + 1
 My skidmarks are the only thing holding my Y-fronts together.
  • + 2
 Gwin likes NOFX, right on
  • + 1
 I love Jah Rastafari because he let's me smoke weed; I'm sure that won't piss anybody off! Smile (I hope so...)
  • + 1
 Holy shit what a bunch of fuckin blowhards you should all shut the fuck up!
  • + 1
 NOFX- way to go gwin thank god for punk!
  • - 2
 NOFX is more of a pop band nowadays
  • + 1
 Good thing u took the time to write that comment
  • + 1
 he looks like he smoked some frankincense in the second pic... lol
  • + 0
 Last time I checked you don't need "religion" to believe in a God. People need to stop being so damn ignorant.
  • + 0
 o lugar é insano!
também gostei muito da Ford...

...que inveja boa!
e nós aqui no Brasil perdendo tudo para governo...
  • + 1
 The Downeaster Alexa is my new pre-race song.
  • + 0
 as an architect, I feel an interest in mr. Gwin's architectural style preferences, why no question on that? Big Grin
  • + 0
 Yo Gwin let me know if want any help building lines I put together a lot of the Idy stuff u can get me through john hall
  • + 1
 We need more people like Aaron. Keep it up brotha.
  • + 1
 Seems like a solid dude.
Ripping a 29-er in the 2nd last shot??
  • + 1
 the piece of land must cost pretty much 2 legs and 2 arms
  • + 1
 jeeeessuuusss..... leave it at home dude.
  • + 1
 every day I'm prying for his comeback
  • + 2
 Comeback? He came in 4th last season.
  • + 2
 4th? I thought he was 2nd?
  • + 2
 Yeah he was 2nd overall... No by "comeback" I meant that I wanna see him winning all dh wc rounds and blowing split times !
  • + 1
 I thought 2nd too, but UCI listings have him at 4th for 2014. www.uci.ch/mountain-bike/ranking
Either way, I wouldn't call getting 1st a comeback since he never went anywhere out of the top ten in the first place. The level of competition in that stratosphere is where 2nd is milliseconds behind 1st and any of the top five can take each other's place if so much as the wind kicks up an extra mph during their run.
  • + 1
 I'm saying property is Santa Rosa plateau above temecula
  • + 1
 What kind of shoes does he ride in?
  • - 1
 If he would have said thanks to the all knowing, all powerful moon bear (if that religion existed) nobody would have said a damn thing. Your all a bunch ass clowns!!!
  • + 1
 I want his life
  • + 0
 He goes to church for the ladies.
  • + 1
 Azn neighbors?
  • + 4
 Guess no pet dogs for Gwin then.
  • + 1
 dogs are jummie
  • + 8
 I'm just surprised he didn't say 'those orientals'
  • + 0
 Pretty surprising since he's from so cal that he would find it novel to have Asian neighbors. Can't help but read a slight undertone of ignorance in some of his comments about his neighbors and their karaoke parties. Neg prop away...I don't give a phuck
  • + 3
 there was more than one redflag comment in this interview.
  • + 3
 Are you saying that TLD is also "made for the world's fastest racist"?
  • + 2
 i agree with ledude, unfortunately.
  • + 2
 Personally, I like seeing these kind of articles. Its never enough for me to like a pro athlete based on their performance...person should be dope as an all around role model. This feature just let's me know that I won't be rooting for AG when he races...I'm not down with racist...he very much comes across as one in this article....he does a good job of trying to cover it up bit its pretty apparent.
  • + 3
 I think his perceived ignorance is more humorous than offensive. It's like in that movie The Interview when James Franco goes to NKorea and greets them with "Konichiwa!" ie. it's innocent but not intelligent at all.
  • + 3
 I think you and ledude are looking way to into it and actively trying to be offended. You guys should seek each other out and write down your thoughts in dream journal and talk about it.
  • + 2
 Wow so defensive of your man AG. Relax, If I were trying to be offended I would have said I'm offended. Which isn't the case. Commentary can differ from emotion yknow Smile
  • + 2
 And baiting people with derogatory jokes (to which nobody responded) only makes you look more like a jackass. Keep it coming please.
  • + 1
 Deville64, I'm not surprised you feel that way - you probably voice the sentiments of a few others reading this thread. Bottomline is that it is irrelevant whether or not I may or may not be offended by AG's perceived ignorance.

The fact remains that the manner in which he talks about his neighbors is uncalled for and unnecessary. His verbiage is nuanced and not overtly offensive but inappropriate nonetheless. It's shit like this that people let slide too often that I am more than willing to put myself out there and bring it to light - because simply put, who else is if I people like cuban-b and myself don't.

Call it overly sensitive - I consider it to be socially conscience…accept it or be just like the rest of the insensitive 'Murican hicks that claim over-sensitiviy. World Cup DH is an international sport, you would think that one of it's own stars would have adopted a more learned world view (apparently not, as demonstrated in his interview). Not to mention he's from SoCal - a region that is as culturally diverse as they come.
  • - 1
 If he was Asian and had white neighbors and made a comment referring to them as white I'm guessing it wouldn't mean poo to any of you. Personally I have no problems if someone describes me by any of my nationality's and for the record my dominant nationality is Spanish and it wouldn't mean a thing to me if someone called me a Spaniard . And why is it not bad to describe some people as African-American but it is to describe someone as Asian?
  • + 2
 "If he was Asian and had white neighbors and made a comment referring to them as white I'm guessing it wouldn't mean poo to any of you."

Actually, if he were asian and did mention his neighbors being white, and notated that comment with a generalized idea of how they party - I'd take issue with it too. It works both ways.

look, its pretty apparent AG is a hick at heart with some unwittingly ignorant points of view..it could be worse, but he sure as hell could afford to show a little more class.

'MURIKA!
  • + 2
 It absolutely works both ways. otherwise that would hypocritical. All that being said, I'm still a fan of AG. Unwitting comments aside he still shows the utmost class and sportsmanship amongst his colleagues and has nothing but positive things to say about his opponents, but that doesn't mean he's exempt from decency in the public eye. Unfortunately, fame comes with that sort of attention/scrutiny.
  • + 0
 @ledude
"Actually, if he were asian and did mention his neighbors being white, and notated that comment with a generalized idea of how they party - I'd take issue with it too. It works both ways.

look, its pretty apparent AG is a hick at heart with some unwittingly ignorant points of view..it could be worse, but he sure as hell could afford to show a little more class."

I hope the first part is true and as for the second part I could just as easily make the argument that you are being very judgemental and possibly "unwittingly ignorant" because after all you don't know the man.

And I just don't know how this is is an insult of some kind
"I've got Asian families on both sides of me, they're both super cool" That's a direct quote, it sounds to me like he likes them but doesn't like the parties and who would blame him.

Perhaps you and @cuban-b should read what he said again while not trying to read between the lines, I mean if you read the whole paragraph it sounds to like he is just commenting about how diverse his neighborhood is.

Don't think I'm trying to be a dick or anything but I just don't see what you are saying. Peace.
  • + 1
 Go Gwinny!
  • + 1
 Thx Santa Claus !
  • + 0
 Where the f®®k do you see racism in his words ??????
  • + 1
 Braaap!!!
  • + 0
 Makes a change from the usual hero 'rad' bell-ends. Seems a genuine bloke.
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