2023 Pinkbike Awards: Value Product of the Year Winner

Dec 21, 2023 at 21:08
by Dario DiGiulio  
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Value can be a moving target, depending on what each dollar means to you and just exactly which item you're looking to buy. That spread was represented in this year's Value Product of the Year nominees, with items ranging from essential and inexpensive to frivolous and pricey - albeit much cheaper than competing products.

Though everyone has different budgets and values, we chose the item that best suits the vast majority of mountain bikers, one that will optimistically keep the sport open and accessible to anybody who wants to participate.




VALUE PRODUCT OF THE YEAR

Shimano CUES

Even though it stands for Create Unique ExperienceS.




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Shimano's new CUES system is inexpensive - relative to the competition and within their own lineup. The highest tier group, U8000, is priced at under $290 USD for a shifter, chain, cassette, and rear derailleur. Not free, but definitely one of the cheaper wide-range drivetrains on the market these days. Not quite at Microshift's Advent X level, but competitive. Beyond its economical value, the CUES system also offers excellent performance and longevity thanks to Shimano's new hard-shifting Linkglide technology. That keeps shifting smooth up and down the cassette, even under power - plus you should get around 3x the lifespan that you'd expect from an equivalent Hyperglide product.

Keep in mind, that's the price for the highest end 10-speed group, with plenty of lower-tiered options should your budget or build warrant it. The real ingenuity of the CUES approach is the cross-compatibility of the whole array of components, with a consistent pull ratio across all shifters and derailleurs, one standard chain for all cassettes, and one fereehub standard. This is meant to give consumers the ability to choose their parts from a "menu of items," as opposed to the more rigid constraints we're used to seeing.

It feels worth noting that the shifting performance - though impressively smooth - isn't quite on par with the game-changing ride quality of SRAM's new Transmission gruppos; turns out the much higher price tag does earn you more than just wireless performance. That said, I do think CUES will be the drivetrain for the people, and fully expect that we'll be seeing it specced on many lower-price complete bikes in the near future. The way I see it currently, the CUES of the world represent the broad base of the pyramid, with options like Transmission occupying some position nearer to the tip of that glorious 3D triangle.

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  • 94 5
 Personally, the Specialized tires I bought this year are MY value product of the year.
  • 150 1
 I also choose this guys specialized tires.
  • 8 1
 The price is good, tread patterns are good, and while not the grippiest compounds, the compounds do last a long time.
  • 9 1
 spec tires incredibly high value
  • 26 21
 Gotta love ripping the knobs off a brand new tire, and then going back to minions
  • 4 0
 Got mine on a 50% sale in the spring, such a great deal.
  • 4 1
 I also share this opinion. Definitely worth trying them.
  • 5 1
 Has anyone else had mixed experiences? I've had a few of the Ground Control T7 Grid, and they have been faultless. Good grip considering how fast they roll, they wear super slow, and I haven't managed to puncture or tear them.

Then tried an Eliminator Grid Trail T7, and the cornering knobs were ripping clean off of the casing after a handful of rides. I sent pictures to Specialized asking for a replacement and they told me they were too worn and needed replaced (after less than 100 miles and barely any actual wear).
  • 2 0
 @DaneL: Eliminators were durable and performed well for me and that was in the Phoenix AZ summer 100-120 heat. Used as a rear tire on a turbo levo.
  • 3 0
 totally agree! Really happy with the new T9 rubber. great pricing.
  • 3 0
 @hot-beef-sundae: We’ve seen some knob failures in our area. Sounds like a faulty batch. All were replaced by Specialized… no questions asked.
  • 2 0
 Cannibal + eliminator is a great combo
  • 1 0
 @DaneL: No knobs ripping of but I found the tiny knobs in the „tree across“ arrangement on the Eliminator to wear very fast.
  • 4 0
 @tacklingdummy: T9 isn’t grippy enough for you?
  • 4 0
 Butcher is the value product, lots of choices for compounds & widths, great on the front or rear, not many items are that versatile & that easy on the wallet.
  • 1 0
 @sportstuff: If you've ridden an Assegai (maxxgrip), can you, or anyone, give me a real world T9 Butcher comparison?
  • 2 0
 @rrolly: I switched from an Assegai to a T7 Butcher later in the summer. Works just good IMO, but I also switched my DHR II for a T9 Eliminator, which makes it hard to isolate changes to the front - however I trust it just as much despite being slightly skinnier and feels like it rolls a lot faster. The change between the DHR and the Eliminator was much more noticeable - the Eliminator rolls a lot faster and breaks traction more predictably, but it also breaks a lot sooner than the DHR. I’m generally faster on the Specialized, but it took me a few rides to gain some trust.
  • 3 1
 @whateverbr0: You went T9 in the back?? Wouldn't you want to go T7 in the back and T9 in the front?

I switched my rear tire from a DHR2 to a Dissector for the same reasons you went to an Eliminator. It was a significant difference. I'm having a hard time putting the DHR back on even though it's gotten quite wet on the Shore.
  • 2 0
 @rrolly: yea def have to go T9 front and T7 or T7/T9 combo for the rear. And yes I agree with others that they break loose a bit early but I got used to it and it’s predictable. Also the 2.3 mesures 2.4 I read somewhere so good sweet spot in sizing. 2.6 is a dog lol
  • 1 1
 @hot-beef-sundae:
Gotta love trying both Specialized and Maxxis, then realising the new Conti gravity range are only a smidge more than the Specialized tires but about twice as good and last twice as long.
  • 1 0
 @rrolly: Well shit now I have no idea, but pretty sure that is the setup. Now I look it up and you’re right that wouldn’t make sense. I’ll have to go out and check, maybe I got the T’s backwards. Honestly I got more grip with the DHR, but that wasn’t exactly helpful - sometimes it’s nice to break traction, or at the very least to know when that traction breaks…

edit: sorry for the downvote, I’m fat fingered and meant to give you an upvote….
  • 2 0
 @notthatfast: Yea gotta love how the new conti’s can’t be sourced reliably where one lives so they ride something else. But I’m glad you’re happy, I guess.
  • 1 0
 @notthatfast: Even though I run a long travel bike (170/180), I don't run heavy cased tires. I run EXO+. Conti's don't have a comparable weight option that performs like Maxxis. I was set to buy the Krypotals, but they are significantly heavier.
  • 71 9
 This is an overdue thanks-very-much to all the PB tech staff for the annual awards, which I look forward to every year. You all take the time to review and test the stuff I want to know about and whether I agree with you or not I am appreciative of your time, comments and above all your objective expertise around the products you're reviewing.

You'll never make everyone happy with your choices - some of the responses to the SRAM GX Transmission write up are a perfect example - but at least you've got people engaging and that's (usually) a good thing.

Happy New Year everyone, what a great time to be a mountain biker!
  • 32 5
 Username checks out.
  • 32 33
 Negative gx comments are almost exclusively from people who haven’t ridden it. The product slays. Anyone bitching about price misses the point of the category. Besides, sometime in the next 5 years there will be mechanical transmission at a better price.
  • 40 5
 @shredddr: This is the same lie people keep writing about ebikes--"the people who don't like it haven't tried it". No, I tried it, and I didn't like it. And I like what I already have just fine, so stop trying to make me unhappy with what I already have.
  • 8 12
flag Bosschap1836r (Dec 26, 2023 at 13:10) (Below Threshold)
 @shredddr: what you say is true. Transmission ftw
  • 6 4
 @barp: ok. I’ve read comments in the prior article where gx won. It seems one guy broke a chain and the rest is resistance to batteries and electronics. Fair enough. Transmission still introduced a far more robust derailleur and a modular one at that. Things mtbers have been begging for for decades. Maybe I need to read some further criticisms of it.
  • 7 6
 @shredddr:

I would argue the criticism for the new GX is more about price increases versus actual improved shifting. If the best thing about it is that it’s better for e-bikes, it’s not an improvement. Especially, when Shimano XT is still cheaper… and better.

As for the derailleur hanger “improvement” its $175 now, the old hangers were $20… it will be interesting to see if the new UDH’s break from riding conditions.
  • 47 2
 Thanks, @advocate. Awards are always going to be contentious, but all of us editors work hard to evaluate the contenders and choose the most worthy winners. We're lucky enough to try a ton of new stuff every year, often putting a significant amount of miles on a product before it's officially released to the public. At the end of the day, we're all bike nerds, and love riding over almost everything else.

I'd encourage everyone to try and get some time on the nominated bikes and products in the coming months - go to a demo day, borrow a buddy's bike for a lap, etc... It's a lot easier to make educated comments (and criticisms) if you've actually spent time on the product.

For riders that don't want to try out the latest and greatest, that's totally fine too - riding is the actual fun part of mountain biking, and the brand of derailleur or suspension you have shouldn't be what makes or breaks a ride. Run what you brung, and don't forget that we're all adults who are lucky enough to spend time riding toys in the woods.
  • 8 1
 @mikekazimer: but Mike what if I want to keep getting mad that the thing that I like isn't the thing that someone else likes? What if something EXISTS and people don't know that I personally find it BAD?

(jk keep up the good work! I, like (probably) most people on pinkbike like seeing all the newest stuff and hearing what you have to say about it.)
  • 4 2
 @mikekazimer: both product of the year choices make sense and justified.
  • 4 3
 @shredddr: shifted like shit underload on the bike I took for a spin. No where near as good as my XT setup.
  • 5 0
 @shredddr: I'm not a fan of transmission and I haven't ridden it while I don't doubt the performance is top notch. I really don't like how proprietary it is. If it came on a bike I bought that would be fine and I wouldn't just rip it off. But the fact that the derailleur and cassette chain and I think crankset all only work with other transmission components is not a great direction for the sport
  • 3 0
 @shredddr: Transmission is not modular its a closed eco system
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: “educated” you have high expectations for the PB comment section.
  • 4 0
 Yeah, this is annonying! I read a review and when I go down for the comments, in 90% of time, the "top comment" is someone complaining of criticizing. Bikes and reviews nowadays are much better than 5 years ago but the riders keep this negative perspective. That's sad...
  • 9 2
 Having purchased the 10speed u6000 cues range it is really cheap, but feels really cheap. Loads of slop in the mech and shifter. Worked ok eventually after much faffing.
I sold it on but kept the 11/48 cassette and paired that with the linkglide deore mech and shifter. Far better quality.
Maybe the top end U8000 cues range is decent, but I certainly wouldn't recommend the lower tiers.
  • 5 1
 No offense but you kinda just explained... How drivetrain tiers work for any system. Or for any product basically. Also was this U6000 on an ebike? Or a normal bike?
  • 1 0
 @lepigpen: ebike. That's what it's designed for. The u6000 was by far the poorest quality mech I've ever owned. And that's the mid tier cues offering. Think SRAM sx.
  • 1 0
 @ThatEbikeGuy: Is there a better drivetrain for the same price?
  • 1 0
 @lepigpen: the linkglide m5130 deore 10 speed is the same price and works with the cues 48t cassette despite Shimano claiming max 43t.
  • 1 0
 @ThatEbikeGuy: Oh that's the part I'm missing. It's only supposed to be used on 43t. Well that's interesting. I wonder... If it has the capability what the barrier is aside from marketing? Or if it wears down really fast for some reason. Thanks for info. I'm on an 11 speed Deore HG bike and I was wondering... What my upgrade options are within the HG realm. And I was under the impression linkglide XT is basically the only thing better than what I have. But was also interested in Advent X and CUES. Still trying to work out what's compatible and what's an upgrade or objectively worse. I'm not super concerned about having a 51t dinner plate. If I'm up there generally speaking I'm just walking instead tbh.
  • 1 0
 @lepigpen: I’ve got 10spd Advent X 11-48 and 10spd Deore 11-46 (2021ish). They both shift with similar quality. I feel like Linkglide XT would be a step up from both, as my 10spd setups you can’t go full ham under load without something jamming.
  • 7 2
 Linkglide is such an awesome product. I’m really looking forward to people realising it’s all they need and not stupid electronic gears. Also how adaptable it it too. It’s going to be the same stuff on MTB, Gravel, hybrid and road, 9,10 or 11 speed, but only one chain needed for the whole lot. Plus it actually shifters under load and last longer than anything else, while being cheap. Brilliant.
  • 2 0
 It’s super underrated! Completely agree with you
  • 9 1
 I don't know how to feel about this one
  • 43 1
 Generally, you can’t go wrong with anger and cynicism ‘round these parts.
  • 5 0
 Here's how to feel about it:

When next years linkglide cassettes come out and are also compatible with microspline, you'll feel good about it.
  • 1 0
 @TheR: I find righteous indignation has broad applicability
  • 6 2
 How many blank cheques are we going to write for heavy components that deliver more performance. Tyres: ok, suspension: ok, brakes: ok, wheels: maybe... but at some point we have to stop spending weight otherwise your bike will get super heavy. To me replacing a budget drivetrain every couple of years is maybe a worthwhile price to pay for saving ~300g (which is almost the weight saving of a carbon frame or better casing on your tyres...) Fair enough to anyone who would rather spend the weight but at some point you've got to say no.
  • 11 0
 I’ve been told radness on bikes these days starts at about 38 pounds.
  • 1 0
 @TheR: True, but you could upgrade from a Zeb to a Boxxer for the same weight. That would be rad^rad. Maybe Boxxer and link drive is even better
  • 3 0
 @rojo-1

Ironically, the new drivetrains are actually designed for e-bikes more than mountain bikes this year, which are even heavier…

I agree though, everything is getting heavier and I try to avoid most of the weight gains where I can.

To me the “value” product of the year, this year at least, is the “sale price” on bikes and equipment.
  • 2 0
 @Saidrick: hell yeah, incredible bargains around! That's the other thing I don't get... eBikes are too heavy right, so isn't it even more important to look for weight savings on them ‍♂️
  • 14 10
 This is good for department store bikes or bikes for kids but I think a value option that will more likely end up on the average Pinkbike reader's bike would have been a better winner, like XT Linkglide or whatever.
  • 64 0
 This has a much bigger impact on the overall industry. We ignore truly affordable bikes here, but it’s important to remember that Trek sells more Marlins than all its high end MTB models put together.

CUES ensures a better experience for kids and beginner MTB enthusiasts, which is good for the sport.
  • 6 0
 This is funny, but I read that CUES cassettes are in fact Linkglide. So maybe XT linkglide is not in the CUES group, but it's 100% compatible and in reality it is one line of drivetrain, just XT Linkglide sits above CUES. It does not really matter which one gets it, it's the same cross compatible system.
  • 10 0
 For sure - it is worth pointing out that this Derailleur is Shadow+ (has a clutch), which is a huge improvement from Acera or other "Dept store" drivetrain levels. That with the addition of LinkGlide tech on this groupset most definitely bumps it up into mtb territory.
  • 2 9
flag Untgrad (Dec 26, 2023 at 12:55) (Below Threshold)
 Does anyone here ride this? Is anyone gonna pull the trigger now it that won the category?
Not trying to talk smack, just an honest question.
As a 1x rider, I don’t think I can pull that few gears..
  • 4 1
 @Untgrad: What do you mean by few gears? Only the range is important (except for x) not the number. Even 9 speeds is plenty enough for general riding. Of course it depends on your style and terrain. 1x started with 11-42 cassettes with cog extenders like OneUP
  • 4 0
 Yeah CUES is Linkglide, like 12 speed was HyperGlide or Hyperglide+ or whatever. They just made it tougher with basically the range of 12 speed in a "smaller" package
  • 1 2
 @lkubica:
So this is your next drivetrain?
  • 3 0
 @Untgrad: I have never ridden more than a 10 speed drivetrain. I only use the top and bottom 3 and 1 in the middle. I honestly don't care about number of gears above 7 as long as there is a clutch on the derailleur and the gear spacing is even.
  • 2 3
 @woofer2609:
And this on a 1x?
I am impressed..
Seriously, you could dump a bunch of weight and go single speed. Some still see it as the holy grail..!
  • 6 0
 @sfarnum: THIS. Every low end model that goes out with 1x CUES instead of SRAM SX or some 2x or even 3x type Shimano is just a win for the industry as a whole. Having a reliable drivetrain experience out the box is basically toppling the annoying barrier of 'my bike never works and the bike shop charges so much to do everything and when i try to work on it i pretzel the entire wheel and chain and blah blah'. Enthusiasts can get lost in the sauce and truly forget what it's like to know NOTHING about MTBs. I just got my lady on a Deore spec bike coming from an SX, that we upgraded to GX mech, and she said it's basically night and day. Like an entirely new riding experience.
  • 2 0
 @Untgrad: yes 1X, not looking for accolades or bragging. I just find I use pretty few gears on my mountain bike because the trails are pretty steep here. On the road 9 or 10 is really useful. Haven't tried one speed mountain...yet
I do like it on the road.
  • 3 3
 @woofer2609:
I only own one bike. 2021 Santa Cruz Tallboy.
My gearing priorities are simple- climb Slickrock Trail in Moab Utah seated, and nearly top out the small end of the cassette on flat road. I need my 520% gear range and every one of those 12 cogs in between. And my goofy oval sprocket..
  • 2 0
 Shimano has a newly minted drivetrain cross compatibility chart on their website.
This year I clocked more than 5k miles with 400 series Tiagra on a commuter bike with zero issues
I’ve managed to break every GX cassette that’s come near
  • 4 3
 "Not quite at Microshift Advent X levels, but competitive"...? I paid $160 shipped for the Microshift Advent X groupset (with SRAM chain) for $160. Works as good if not better than any XT groupset I've owned. How can you mentioned a different
and better value groupset, yet not include it in your Value Product category?
  • 7 2
 The Advent parts have been out for a few years, the point of the annual awards is to highlight this year's high points. I personally prefer the shifting performance of the Linkglide stuff to Microshift, but both are great options.
  • 6 1
 Having owned advent X and XT I can confidently say XT is 100% worth the 3x price.
  • 2 0
 @tim-from-pa: I'm sure you can. As they say,..."your experience may vary." I now have Advent X on two bikes and both shift crisp, fast and precise and have worked perfectly. I can't say the same about the two last two XT drivetrains I've had. As with all things, do what works for you.
  • 3 2
 Lot of people with strong opinions that haven't actually tried it. I felt the same way about AXS when it first came out. Stupidly, overpriced, and my regular, cable driven set up works just fine. Then I tried a bike that had it and I'll never go back. I will say that an AXS derailleur with Shimano XT cassette was almost as good as Transmission for way less money
  • 1 0
 @TheR: I do wonder, if you could hybrid an older AXS derailleur with the new linkglide, and tune the shift pull ratios/jumps to match. People did this on Hyperglide+, right?
  • 1 0
 @iduckett: yes, that's what I had on two bikes. Worked amazing. Would be interesting to see if it worked on Linkglide
  • 4 0
 So, not Berd Wheels with a groupon?
  • 5 1
 Typical of Shimano, showing up late to the party. Signed, MicroShift
  • 1 0
 Advent was a VPOTY nominee in 2020, only to be beat by Deore. Tough being the underdog.
MicroShift (and maybe Box?) deserves some credit for sure!
  • 5 0
 Testing the death out of their products before releasing to the consumer… how dare they!! I see their late arrival as a strength… having the discipline to refine the product before releasing something sub-par like that other American competitor of theirs. Cannot beat Japanese quality
  • 1 1
 @derekr: I’ve had their 12 speed stuff and it was hot garbage. M7100 brakes that were so inconsistent. The only thing I actually like was the M6120 brakes, those were solid and reliable performers for me.
  • 2 0
 @dariodigiulio The Shimano website shows that the highest tier CUES goupset (U8000 series) is an 11-speed groupset, not 10-speed.
  • 2 3
 As a full group U8000 is a trekking/urban bike drivetrain with a front derailleur, not really meant for typical mountain bike use.
  • 4 2
 @dariodigiulio: did you interpret this wrong? "Shimano CUES U8000 is our premier 11-speed lineup that covers everything from Trekking to Urban riding."

Shimano CUES is one groupset for a wide variety of riding that includes MTB use.
  • 1 0
 @Varaxis: Good point, you could piece it out as with anything else.
  • 1 0
 Im curious how the higher end CUES stuff compares to a 12 speed Deore drivetrain. I’ve personally had very few complaints with mine and it seems like there some overlap price wise.
  • 1 0
 I’m also interested. I put 12 sod deore on a parts bike but would have likely gone linkglide if I had been aware of it at the time. The sore has been rock solid too.
  • 1 1
 Shimano was caught using slavery in Malaysia.

"Per the report, workers at the Kwang Li Industry company in Malaysia say they have been “subject to physical abuse and threats, unlawful salary deductions and recruitment fees, and unpaid suspension.”

Nice pick.
  • 4 0
 CUE the children singing
  • 1 0
 CUES is probably cheaper as OEM's too. It's a tad bit late though as this would have been a boon to the biking boom of 2020-2022.
  • 1 0
 Best value ebike product. This will be on low OEM bikes and ebikers will buy it after the 3rd time replacing the stock 12 speed drivetrains.
  • 2 0
 They mention cross compatibility. What drivetrains that people currently use dont do this?
  • 1 0
 Shimano. Different pull ratios for 9,10,11,12 spd. (Sorta the same for 10/11) Different chains, especially 12spd, and the list goes on...
  • 1 0
 @woofer2609: got it. I was thinking it was only a 10 speed system. So you can use an 11 speed derailleur with a 9 speed cassette and shifter. That is pretty cool.
  • 6 5
 I wonder how they can keep pumping out such great components for such low prices???
  • 20 3
 The same way every company that manufactures in 3rd world countries does. Bike is unregulated. They all use questionable practices and cheap labor. If you don't like that. Buy made in North America products. Or made in UK or Select countries in the EU.
  • 13 3
 @BermSkid72: I like my blood diamonds, and blood drivetrain!!!
  • 7 1
 It’s incredible what people do, and do not care about these days.
  • 4 4
 @wobblegoblin: LOL. And my blood lithium batteries! EVs for everybody!!!!!!
  • 4 4
 @BermSkid72: I could name a few Made In USA bike/component brands that are supposedly very toxic workplaces. With the current state of capitalism, it's nigh impossible to spend money without exploiting somebody anymore. NOTE: I'm not saying that having an abusive boss is equally bad as being enslaved; only that they're both bad and we should try to prevent both possibilities.
  • 4 1
 @barp: so let's hear those names, what's holding you back?
  • 1 3
 @BarryWalstead: Don't wish to engage in another flamewar.
  • 6 12
flag Bosschap1836r (Dec 26, 2023 at 13:13) (Below Threshold)
 @mybaben: EVs are a terrible solution to a problem that didn't exist.
  • 14 2
 @Bosschap1836r: So are ebikes.
  • 2 0
 @barp: but you can pretty easily leave those companies and find another job relatively quick. These are slave labor or damn near close we are comparing to in a 3rd world country…
  • 3 1
 @barp: then a polite suggestion tjtyou not bring it up. To bring it up but not say who it is light just be the worst version of 'bringing it up' as opposed to simply not saying anything.

But I honestly do wa't to know what companies tret people well vs those that don't, and I will make buying decisions based on that information.
  • 4 0
 @BermSkid72: A lot of bike parts are made Taiwan which is very far from a 3rd world country.
  • 3 2
 Thought this was a 5 speed drivetrain at first XD. Cassette spacing looks huge.
  • 1 0
 I’ve yet to see this stuff OE or AM.
  • 2 0
 Cause they're still trying to flog all the stuff that was made before CUES that they panic ordered during the covid shortages
  • 1 0
 It's been available AM for some time. Dealers in some instances are yet to switch on to it as the stuff they know (that this will ultimately replace) is also still available.
  • 1 0
 It's on the 24 giant stance and they are on sale in Canada right now.
  • 1 1
 2024 pinkbike predictions: skewers and rim breaks. Not free but hella cheap
  • 1 1
 I went on a diet. Lost 15 pound and saved cash. Imagine how much it would cost to buy mtb kit that could do the same.
  • 9 12
 How dare you give this award to such a product! What about GX Transmission? It’s a high VALUE for the money! I won’t buy either so maybe no awards for anyone based on my tastes alone. Gah. Existence is a nightmare.
  • 2 1
 You might want to check the other awards.
  • 4 2
 Just imagine if you had a difficult uphill battle to fight in an area of life that really mattered
  • 2 2
 Not just extreme frustration about fun hobbies
  • 3 2
 I disagree. It’s sram so will fail prematurely. Version 3 will be along soon to fix the latest failures that should have been fixed as part of the development process
  • 5 0
 I guess the sarcasm didn’t land…
  • 2 2
 @blinglespeed: we’re all so serious these days, it’s no surprise your comment sailed over a few heads.

In all seriousness, this is just advertising, Shimano pays Pinkbike for this sort of thing.

It’s a job, it pays the bills, we get it for free , so who are we to complain?
  • 1 0
 @blinglespeed: i thought sarcasm has to be declared as sarcasm on internet comments by law since 2021, when one guy shot another guy because he took a comment seriously...
  • 1 0
 @blinglespeed: fret not. The first three words alone made the sarcasm obvious.
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: yeah man, the dude was triggered. how familiar are you with the reasons why people use sarcasm?
  • 2 1
 game changing!!
  • 1 3
 Value product for Walmart bikes maybe. I would have nominated the OneUp or PNW droppers instead.
  • 2 3
 SHIMANO
  • 1 3
 this is just rebranded microshift
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