Dario's Day 2 Randoms - Taiwan Cycle Show 2024

Mar 7, 2024 at 18:07
by Dario DiGiulio  


You've seen the first level, now it's time to go deeper. The sea of booths at the Taipei Cycle Show seems to turn over and reveal something new nearly every lap, so I've been plodding through again and again to find more juicy bits and pieces. Here are today's.



Spank Spike 369 Rim

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This new rim from Spank features a hollow flange, meant to increase stiffness and impact resistance. The larger flat section atop that hollow channel should help with snake bites as well, as we've seen with other rims featuring a similar design.

It sounds like we'll be seeing these rims become available sometime this coming summer, and word on the street is our man H. Quinney will be putting them to the test during his daily repeats in the bike park.



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Compelling.

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Heating/cooling jacket from Top Action is functional and a little terrifying.

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These puppies get as cold as 1°C.
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And allegedly do not pose a threat to long hair.



Riderever Attack XR

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These 4-piston mineral oil brakes from Riderever look and feel pretty robust, with features we're used to seeing on higher-end brakes. A hinged clamp, reach adjust, legitimate bleed options, and a typical pad shape mean these could be easy to own, if you can get your hands on a set. Their webstore appears to be down, but the price is supposedly quite competitive.



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Unnecessarily high seatpost of the day award.

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Cool.

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36" e-gravel joint at DirtySixer.
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Even the pedals are ready for big feet.

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Speed shades occupy about 30% of the booths here.



KS Inverted Fork

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We've seen this before, and there isn't much new, but it's intriguing regardless.

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KS says they've been iterating on the internals.
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Looks pretty good.

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I squished it, and agree that it doesn't seem quite ready yet.



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All the hub options.

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SunTour is ABS ready.

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That's what they called me in high school.
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Looks committing.

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I believe.

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Brother.



why have you forsaken me

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I feel cold

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so cold
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please stop



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Anyway, here are some beautiful orchids.

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The all-black Maven Silvers (??) look great in person.

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Paging Brian Park.



Kellys Swag

No, I'm not describing someone's drip, that's the name of the bike.

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One of the more well-sorted seeming mountain bikes at the show.

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Excellent dropper insertion and an interesting linkage layout.
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Plus a solid build kit to boot.



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Some lovely 3D-printed titanium bits.
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Huddled for warmth (and print efficiency.)

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Smooth.
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Ti bits.

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A real picture of me, chilling, calm, placid, in my lane, not overwhelmed by an ocean of bike parts.


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98 Comments
  • 78 1
 flower interlude was much appreciated
  • 49 0
 Amazingly enough, I was also called X Bobcat in high school.
  • 9 0
 Well actually Bobcat he was referring to the other label “Javelin” amazingly enough that’s what they still call me.
  • 7 0
 @oldfaith: dario "Javelin" digiulio
  • 42 13
 Highly recommend folks listen to the green bike website's interview with darren from push on exactly why inverted forks will feel worse in the basic handlebar squish test so that there's less misinformation spread on what is good or bad. Has a lot to do with where input is going into the suspension, vs what is being suspended. Don't know how good the xfusion one is but I feel like the PB editors and readers should gain some knowledge on the physics behind why things feel different
  • 9 9
 Dirtbikes and all high end motorcycle have use inverted forks for over 25 years.. its better in every way other than center of mass being higher.
  • 5 25
flag spl75 (Mar 8, 2024 at 0:05) (Below Threshold)
 Im not sure why you would want the moving parts of your suspension nearer the muck?
  • 47 0
 @spl75: Ironically, inverted forks don't have the tire throwing mud on the stanchions...
  • 23 5
 as a former suspension tech and now finishing an engineering degree, that video is FULL OF BULLSH*T. its an ad, at best.
  • 3 0
 @SonofBovril: and gravity helps muck away from the wiper seals. Also bathes them in lubricating fluid. I had the old maverick USD fork back in the day and while the execution wasn't perfect, it was smooth as silk and breakaway force felt like nothing. However it was pretty flexible and tended to wander off course a bit at times, on off cambers and the like
  • 6 0
 there was an unicorn fork called x-fusion revel.. unobtainable though.. I lusted over that one for years... when I see the price of the Push one, I just think I'll continue on my primitive technology

EDIT: here it is www.xfusionshox.com/products_detail/76.htm in all its glory, 20mm axle even !
  • 1 5
flag betsie (Mar 8, 2024 at 3:18) (Below Threshold)
 you said "physics" at that point you lost the "engineering" world.
  • 10 0
 @rustyglaze5: i'm guessing the weight to stiffness ratio has something to do whit it.
On dirtbikes the they can overbuild it and bicycles it all comes down to weight.
i have an rockshox rs1, its light yes, but if you brake while only steering a little, the flex is crazy.
So now it is used as a toilet roll holder where flex is not an issue.
  • 3 1
 @Newgame2113: somewhat, but weight is still critical on MX bikes and Super Bikes. Many a good MX bike have been less than competitive due to weight.
Look at the history of motorcycle forks, very rarely we’re there bridges between the lowers, although you raise the center of gravity of the fork with an USD fork, you loose a lot of weight from the lowers, and since the unsprung mass in a motorcycle is considerable, that weight savings makes up for a slightly heavier system overall. Look at the axle clamps, hub and axle on a motorcycle USD fork and you’ll see where the rigidity was regained. Plus every motorcycle brand has somewhat proprietary hub and axle standards, sort of what Rock Shox tried with their torque cap front hubs. No one wants proprietary stuff on bikes (me included) if every fork needed it’s own hub (I’m looking at you lefty!) the Pink Bike community would loose their collective mine.
  • 3 0
 Agreed, I know my Manitou Dorado feels SUPER Plush yet supportive on the trail. But its difficult to rely that to the garage squish test.
  • 1 0
 @SonofBovril: was about to say… where does all the dust collect on the right side up forks? It’s on the dust wipers not above the hub…
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: Those Revel forks were not hard to get. A friend of mine wanted one back in 2017 or 2018 and had zero trouble hunting one down. I believe he just purchased from a shop in Taiwan.
  • 1 0
 @betsie: felt like using the most general term for the math describing physical motion, good thing I put it towards the end of my comment. Being pedantic to terminology doesn't change that riding a bike on trail isn't a similar set of forces as pressing down on the bars. We can talk about load paths and inertial mass if you'd like, but I feel like my comment gets the point across
  • 5 0
 @Thegrumpymechanic: 6 year mechanic and last year mechanical engineering degree student too, can you elaborate on which parts were bullshit in your view? I think Darren adequately pointed out the drawbacks with weight, perceived flex, and cost. Though he also explained and justified it with why they made those compromises.
  • 1 0
 I thought the squish test comment was just cheeky fun
  • 1 0
 @KolaPanda: I know, I was just being a d!ck.
Having tested a fair few forks in my time and listened to loads of the latest marketing BS its always best for every rider to find what works for them and go with that.
I remember when Bos Idylle Rare were amazing, the best fork you could get so I bought a set to try... didnt take much testing to figure out that for me they were terrible.
Everyone knows the best test of a fork is to ride into your nearest kerb as hard as you dare and see how they perform then do an endo after (its actually a decent starting point test). Pressing on the bars is old school.
  • 26 0
 Between the OHIO cap in the last post and the trps mounted to concrete I’m loving Dario’s coverage of the absurdity of trade shows. Bravo
  • 23 1
 The orchids are impressive
  • 1 2
 So was the colour-way of that Kellys bike. That shade of blue with the gold decals is gorgeous.
  • 20 0
 Cooling jacket....... I always find if I take a jacket off, I get cooler
  • 3 0
 jacket on, jacket off
  • 3 0
 at least it wasn't what I thought it was at first....which was 3 bluetooth speakers in a jacket.
  • 1 0
 @hotpotato: That's how my brain interpreted the photo at first. I was dreading the resulting amplification here in CA.
  • 17 0
 I think that mate bike has the single worst cockpit in human history
  • 1 0
 Yeah, that seems like a show sample made to let you lift the cover and show off the internals.
  • 1 0
 I thought it was some weird aggressive townie
  • 3 0
 not so fast! it's missing scott's twinloc system.
  • 3 0
 adding all the spacers to better show off it's neat cable routing
  • 3 0
 It should not mate
  • 1 0
 A stack that would even make Dakota Norton blush
  • 3 0
 Stack em high, watch em die!
  • 12 0
 That last image though. I feel like the mannequin’s left hand and the girls face are somewhat connected in some way.
  • 2 0
 That's the comment I came here for!
  • 12 4
 I don't often do this, but I recommend against the Spank rims with the weird inner profile. There's no space for the bead to drop into, so mounting a tire is way harder. I had to take out the valve core and put it back in after the first bead. After wrestling it on, my Big Betty Super Trail didn't seat until 55 psi. I'm sure it might be a great rim in other aspects and I won't throw it out or anything, but it's got me living in fear of a flat. That same tire went onto my old Stans rim without using levers, and seated at something like 20 or 25 psi.
  • 11 0
 Buying a rim without a center channel for the bead to drop into just seems like a huge pain in the ass.

I don't know how to install tires without that channel? Just f*ck with so many tire levers.
  • 2 1
 I didn’t have too much of an issue mounting dh casing tires on the spank profile even with cushcore but could never keep them true
  • 1 0
 @loosegoat: Oobah profile, or their other rims that don't have it? Because I genuinely thought I was going to break my tire levers doing the trail casing
  • 3 0
 Yeah, wrestling a DH tire onto their oobah profile is no fun. Add to that the bead bite ridges that get nullified by tubeless tape and non-directional spoke hole drilling. If they had simply kept the generic Fratelli design I might still consider them.
  • 2 4
 @AndrewHornor: I've had quite a few rims with the oohbah profile (spikes and oozys, some spoon maybe IIRC) and never had issues installing dh tires. Probably helps I've been a shop mechanic and installed thousands of tires, but while I found that I had to be bit more diligent with some spank combinations, it always went on, usually without a lever.
  • 6 0
 I'm imagining the racket that jacket will make when I throw it in the washing machine. At least it can dry itself afterwards if it still works.
  • 6 0
 Great example of problem solving via transfer. Take two dropper posts, turn them upside down, connect them together and you have a USD fork.
  • 4 0
 In the UK, we use "...mate..." as shorthand for "seriously, mate, what do you think you're doing, stop it, you're being silly and if it carries on then there'll be trouble"

So that Blackpool Tower sized stem stack is on a very appropriately named bike.
  • 4 0
 Maaaaate....
  • 1 0
 @JonnyNorthmore: Exactly how I read it!! "Awww, maaaaate...."
  • 4 0
 Finally wide flanges on aluminum rims, too. Very nice. But which other rims feature a similar design already? Does anybody know?

And BTW: Pleeeeaaaaase Spank - bring back coloured rims! True rims of colour. Damn.
  • 4 0
 But which other rims feature a similar design already?
....Sun double wide
  • 1 0
 @kazwei: Haha - right. Damnit. Seemingly only old farts around here.
  • 1 0
 @kazwei: Ibis has been running BLKBRD Send rims with that profile and structure for almost two years now, not exactly light or very pretty looking but we’ve sold hundreds at our shop and have only seen one dude do any serious damage. Chromag BA30 also have a wide-ish albeit not as wide hook to help with pinches.
  • 5 0
 I'm impressed how some fly in walmart employees all the way to taiwan to assemble their bikes
  • 3 0
 First glance I thought the heating cooling jacket had speakers in it, which would be a perfect choice for many local riders who always play my favorite music at a volume I prefer.
  • 5 0
 Buster voice: "Hey, Brother"
  • 1 1
 AD for the win!
  • 5 0
 That last mannequin is ready for some action.
  • 1 0
 I've flat spotted a Spank 359 and 350 in the rear. They were setup tubeless with Tannus inserts. I've heard inserts can put unaccounted force on the inner rim profile. I wonder if this 369 profile will be better, but the inner rim center looks the same.
  • 4 0
 Kelly's seat post > Trek's seat post
  • 7 1
 Mate steerer tube > both
  • 3 0
 that photo of the bike with 150mm of spacers under the stem is actually the bar height we want! Stack is king baby!
  • 3 0
 Nice to see Levy's finally going ahead with his startup, I wish him all the best!!
  • 1 0
 I love 36ers but whats with the silly twin front discs? I remember DH set ups with 2 siscs up front a couple of decades ago but brakes were not so good back then. Still seemed silly though.
  • 1 0
 I feel like all those stem spacers is just an example of them only having the one fork and not wanting to commit to cutting it down to length for that one bike.
  • 3 0
 The left hand in that last photo, not right that. Creepy Dario.
  • 1 0
 Some company is going to come out with a 28.25" tire/wheel combo and make a million doll hairs. Perfect compromise of speed and maneuverability.
  • 1 0
 X Bobcat. bow-chicka-wow-wow..... Searched pornhub database and couldn't find a single movie starring X Bobcat.... MTB career checks out.
  • 1 0
 They called you “javelin” in high school, would love to know that story…
  • 1 0
 Those 36er tires look good, apparently Vee has resurrected Matt and Walt’s prototype, now it calling it the Monster!
  • 2 0
 Kelly’s bikes no getting in NA.
  • 1 0
 Our local brand here in SK, you see them all over the place
  • 2 0
 @Kolikjun: here in PL as well, good bikes for good prices. my kid's pushbike was a Kellys and I recommend it to all fresh parents due to that little platform for the kid to put heir feet on when descending. well engineered.
  • 1 0
 @kopaczus: I’m getting a pushbike for my daughter this month, thanks for the insight!
  • 2 0
 They called you x bobcat in high school? That's a sweet nickname
  • 3 0
 I like the Kellys bikes.
  • 3 0
 36" mtb please!!!!!
  • 3 1
 If you get cold riding a bike you need to stop riding that e-bike
  • 2 0
 Didn’t realize Maxxis renamed the minion DHF Loam Wizard
  • 1 0
 That TRP brake lever on a six-piston brake makes the Sram brake levers seem so weirdly huge.
  • 1 0
 Do a line whatever dudes dario digooglio broken nostral stachio dropped in muskrat hairpie!
  • 1 0
 Riderever is a weird name. Rider-ever? Ride-rever? It's got Rural Juror vibes.
  • 3 0
 These captions are gold
  • 1 0
 Late to the party, but I heard that version 2 of the fan jacket will resize itself. Fewer SKUs FTW.
  • 2 0
 @dariodigiulio, people called you "Javelin" in high school?
  • 1 0
 amongst other things
  • 1 0
 Only focus on seatpost makes my eyes.......
  • 1 0
 Those TRP brakes look interesting.
  • 1 0
 Nice DAK-STAK! on that Mate-bike
  • 1 0
 my last name is 'Silvers'.......should I change my name to Maven Silvers?
  • 1 0
 I still don't get why the Maven Silver, is not silver
  • 1 0
 I feel seen by this article
  • 1 0
 i only ride Shivers for inverted
  • 1 1
 ABS brakes?! These are the brakes I want to know more about…
  • 16 0
 They're called sram Levels: no matter how hard you pull on the lever, it's impossible to lock up your wheel.
  • 1 1
 Why is one of the bottle cages upside down? WHY!?







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