First Ride: Rocky Mountain's 2024 Altitude Has a Completely Revised Frame Design

Apr 5, 2024 at 9:43
by Dario DiGiulio  


The Rocky Mountain Altitude has been the race bike of choice for the Canadian company's enduro athletes, despite numbers that seemed fairly conservative relative to the competition. That's no longer the case, as the Altitude sees a full refresh with new geometry, suspension layout, frame features, and overall demeanor on trail. The all-mountain enduro bike is out, and the go-fast bike is in.

The Altitude still sports 160mm of rear wheel travel, still has a host of adjustment features and flip chips, but is otherwise a completely new machine, save for the maple leaf on the top tube. There are alloy and carbon frame options, all with reach adjust headsets, Rocky's Ride-4 geo adjustment, and in-frame storage for the carbon bikes.
Altitude Details

• 29" or Mixed wheels (27.5" size S)
• Carbon or alloy frame
• 160mm frame travel, 170mm fork
• 63-63.8° head angle
• 424-515mm reach
• 427-450mm chainstays
• 77-77.8° seat angle
• Wheel size and frame geometry flip chips
• Actual weight: 34.8 lb / 15.8 kg (size L)
• Price: $3,999-10,999 USD
• Frameset: $4,099 USD
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Frame Features

From geometry adjustments to wheel size, in-frame storage to clean cable routing, the Altitude has a ton of little frame features to touch on.

Rocky pared down on the flip chip options for this bike, deleting 5 positions from their Ride-9 system to arrive at the current Ride-4. Located at the forward shock mount, it's essentially a slack/neutral/steep position adjuster with a top secret 4th position. At the lower shock mount is the rear wheel flip chip, allowing you to compensate for the geometry changes between a 27.5" and 29" wheel. The wheel size adjustment is not available on the size Small bike, which is 27.5" only.

The headtube has a racetrack-shaped headset, with nice press-in cups that allow you to adjust the reach figure by 5mm forward or rearward from the neutral position. This adjustment doesn't affect any other geometry in a significant way, so it's purely to dial in the bike's fit.

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Easy open.
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Nice and roomy.

The downtube contains more than just increased stiffness, it's also home to Rocky's new Penalty Box storage system. The opening is huge, the hatch is very easy to open with one hand, and the hidden AirTag integration is a clever little detail. The bike comes with two storage bags, one with some organization and one with a more cram-friendly design. Overall it's a very nicely executed take on the trend, and justifies whatever added complication was required to achieve it.

Cable routing is fully guided and internal, but Rocky didn't simply punch some holes in the frame and call it good. There are bolt-on cable clamps at the front exit, allowing you to tighten the cables down in place and eliminate any rattling that might otherwise occur.

While the alloy frames don't get the Penalty Box treatment, all of the other frame features are incorporated. It feels worth noting that the bikes do use a 30.9mm seatpost, which is just as standard as 31.6mm, but feels much less common on longer-travel bikes these days.

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Wheel size flip chip.
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Ride-4 geometry adjustment.

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Geometry

There are a few geometries to discuss here, thanks to Rocky's use of the Ride-4 geometry adjustment feature. From the Neutral position, adjusting to Slack or Steep changes the angles of the bike by about 0.3° to 0.5°, with an overall head angle adjustment range of 63 - 63.8°. The bottom bracket drop has a range of 11mm overall, with neutral sitting at 31mm in the full 29" position. Aside from the BB drop, the rear wheel size change doesn't radically affect the geometry, save for a millimeter here or there. The seat tube angle centers around 77.5°, again changing slightly depending on your Ride-4 position.

Reach numbers for the four sizes are as follows: 430mm (S) / 455mm (M) / 480mm (L) / 510mm (XL). Those are the figures with the Ride-4 in the Neutral position, and with the headset adjustment in the central setting. The Ride-4 can change reach by +3mm or -5mm, and the pop-in headset cups offer +/- 5mm of adjustment.

There are three rear center lengths spread across the range, none of which change with the wheel size adjustment or the Ride-4 position. Small bikes are 27.5" only, and the rear center measures 427mm. Mediums get a 440mm rear end, and Large and Extra Large bikes share a 450mm rear center length.



Suspension Design

First seen on the 2006 Slayer, Rocky has reintroduced their LC2R suspension system - a counter-rotating dual link design not dissimilar to the well-known VPP layout. A fairly high starting leverage of 3:1 coupled with a light compression shock tune makes for a very fluttery feeling top end of travel, while the high overall progression (36%) means things will ramp up quickly in the last 25mm of travel.


The main pivot is concentric to the bottom bracket, and each bike ships with a special tool to tighten that hardware. This requires removal of the crank and drive-side bottom bracket, but it's a straightforward and easy job.

Build Kits

Lots to choose from here, but I don't think there are any wasted spots in the Altitude's lineup. Each bike gets solid components for the price, without any major weak spots that you'll need to replace right off the bat. Coil or air, alloy or carbon, there's a spec and price point to cater to a wide variety of riders. For those who can't choose, or simply want to carry over parts from a different frame, there's a carbon frameset option.

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Altitude Carbon 99 // $10,999 USD, $15,499 CAD. RockShox Flight Attendant suspension, SRAM Code RSC brakes, SRAM XO drivetrain, Race Face ERA wheels.
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Carbon 90 Rally Edition // $9,999 USD, $12,299 CAD. Fox Factory suspension, Shimano XTR brakes and drivetrain, Race Face ARC 31 wheels.

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Altitude Carbon 70 // $6,899 USD, $8,899 CAD. RockShox Select+ suspension, Shimano XT brakes and drivetrain, Race Face AR 30 wheels.
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Altitude Carbon 70 Coil // $7,199 USD, $9,299 CAD. Fox Factory suspension, Shimano XT brakes and drivetrain, Race Face AR 30 wheels.

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Altitude Carbon 50 // $5,699 USD, $7,299 CAD. Fox Performance suspension, Shimano XT/SLX brakes and drivetrain, WTB ST Light i30 wheels.
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Altitude Alloy 70 Coil // $5,699 USD, $6,999 CAD. Fox Factory suspension, Shimano XT brakes and drivetrain, Race Face AR 30 wheels.

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Altitude Alloy 50 // $4,799 USD, $5,599 CAD. Fox Performance suspension, Shimano XT/SLX brakes and drivetrain, WTB ST i30 wheels.
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Altitude Alloy 30 // $3,999 USD, $4,799 CAD. RockShox/Fox Select/Performance suspension, Shimano Deore brakes and drivetrain, WTB ST i30 wheels.

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Altitude Carbon Frameset // $4,099 USD, $4,999 CAD. Fox Factory shock, FSA Orbit No. 85 reach adjust headset.

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You can watch this guy talk about the new Altitude with the project manager here.

Ride Impressions

The Altitude feels like a race bike. Over the handful of rides I've taken it on so far, it's happiest charging down rough tracks, popping deep off drops, and pushing braking until the last moment. It's manageable on mellower terrain, but feels a little unenthused unless you're really picking up speed. The geometry is long, the suspension is very active, and the chassis is stout - all making for something that comes alive at speed. The kinematic feels very progressive - which might not be for everybody - but it does track nicely over chattery terrain before ramping up aggressively deep in travel. I'm running a good bit more compression than I typically would and things feel nicely balanced.

On the frame, fit, and finish level, things are nicely polished on the Altitude. The Penalty Box is one of the best in-frame storage solutions I've encountered, and if it withstands the test of time it might just end up being a favorite. The bike is very quiet, thanks to clean cable routing and some well-placed chainslap protection. I've already begun playing around with the Ride-4 flip chip and the reach adjust headset, and both are easy enough to use on a regular basis, even trailside if you're careful.

From the get-go this bike felt confident in serious terrain, and capable of going very fast. I'm still dialing in the suspension settings and getting a feel for which geo positions I prefer, but the early impressions bode well for the long term test. Stay tuned for a full-fledged review in time.




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  • 515 11
 So what’s the consensus, are we calling this a Rocky Cruz or a Santa Mountain? I know my vote is the latter.
  • 398 3
 Santa Mountain Megatude
  • 248 3
 I was going to vote for Ronta Mouz, but then thought that Sacky Cuntain would be better.
  • 42 1
 @wolftwenty1: Mountain Cruz Altitower
  • 17 1
 This is the new Flatline.
  • 18 20
 Rocky Mountain Nomad
  • 6 1
 Rocky Tower
  • 44 3
 Have they actually sold their 2022s and 2023s yet?
  • 2 0
 @wolftwenty1: Winner winner chicken dinner
  • 11 4
 looks more like a tracer than any sc frame. sc doesn't use a concentric bearing around the bb for the lower link, whereas the tracer does exactly that.
  • 40 2
 Hey now, Santa cruz makes bikes priced for dentists, rocky mountain is clearly targeting orthodontists.
  • 7 5
 Well, it's not that much more a copy cat than the other bikes on the market. All High Pivot look the same and all FSR look the same.
  • 4 0
 @wolftwenty1: the Santa Mountain Ransom
  • 2 29
flag gearbo-x (Apr 10, 2024 at 8:33) (Below Threshold)
 Rocky just bought out the mould from Intense Tracer, everybody knows how crappy that rode
  • 6 3
 @CaSentLeTabarnakMonHomme: I dunno...this is pretty santa cruz'ish
  • 12 1
 @gearbo-x: I rode an Intense and let me to you, it was not crappy
  • 4 0
 Intensely Rocky Cruz??
  • 3 0
 @Ebab: I hope its smooth
  • 5 8
 @bigtim: Sacky c*ntain is going to be the new name for my MegaTower... hahaa
  • 12 1
 Has a bit of Specialized Enduro vibe as well.
  • 65 60
 LC2R™ is our unique take on a virtual pivot suspension design, with several key advantages unique to our design. Riders who ride a Rocky Mountain know that our bikes have a ride feel that’s uniquely Rocky Mountain — and the new Altitude is no different. They may have some similarities, but we think LC2R™ is a cut above! Dig in deeper and you'll see how the Altitude is different!
  • 128 15
 @RockyMountainBicycles: Are you a chat bot?
  • 82 34
 @sanchofula: No... Are you?
  • 3 0
 MegaRocky MountainTower
  • 1 0
 Alpine Leopard Snow Track and Tube @ fubarbikes
  • 38 8
 @RockyMountainBicycles: Somebody sounds a bit miffed that everyone’s noticed
  • 7 0
 I love when my first thought is summed up by the first comment
  • 1 0
 @RockyMountainBicycles: What's the axle path?
  • 38 1
 @RockyMountainBicycles: Exactly what a chat bot would say...
  • 3 1
 @RockyMountainBicycles: lol beef reference
  • 6 1
 @RockyMountainBicycles: So… Playing Devils advocate here… What are said unique advantages?
  • 1 0
 Santa Mountain RangeDuro
  • 6 0
 Yes Rocky, what a looker! So glad to see you making some sharp looking bikes again like the old slayer which was such a beaut!
  • 1 2
 Looks like a real innovation
  • 3 0
 Rocky Cruz SOLO
  • 51 2
 @iduckett: A fair amount of work went into the kinematics and frame design, with test frames manufactured in our Vancouver R&D center and ridden extensively before final design work was completed. Lumping bikes into a simple category like Horst, VPP, SP, HP, etc grossly oversimplifies the amount of details that we and (I assume) most brands put into their designs. A few mm here and there make huge differences in the end result.

Our advantages are that we offer multiple adjustments at the shock mounts to adjust the geometry and wheel sizing, whereas others brands do not. Additionally the kinematic aspects that we focused on were to increase our mid-travel support while not moving away from our progressive rate curves that we love to ride. Our suspension tends to feature a wider window of setup range making it easier to set up the bike to individual preferences. No chasing a narrow setup window that makes it frustrating for both first-time and experienced riders.
  • 5 1
 @RockyMountainBicycles: Older guy here with an older RM Alt that i've upgrade over the years -enjoy my ride immensely and the all around mountain experience it gives me so my question to you is.
Why buy your new bike over the other offerings out there ??? whether that be a different manufacture or last years model of RM - basically whats better about this bike(and or your company) not just different.
  • 2 0
 @bigtim: well done sir
  • 2 0
 I was thinking Giga mountain
  • 3 2
 @RockyMountainBicycles: lets do a "blind" ride test with your LC2R vs Santa Cruz VPP? I'd love to see how progressive it is compared to my SB165.
  • 4 2
 @RockyMountainBicycles: The real question is why not a horst link? You did it for a long long time.
  • 3 0
 With the rocker concentric to the bottom bracket it has elements of Deviate’s Claymore as well… so throw some Clay in that name mix!
  • 2 1
 @lkubica:
The REAL real question is why a Horst Link? Why stick to the same thing if you can have better/different results by doing something different?
  • 2 0
 Hmmmm..
  • 1 3
 @shockdonkey: you deleted your post and changed it
  • 7 0
 @RockyMountainBicycles: looks good, I wish the price point was lower - frame only cost seems disproportionate to the builds.
  • 3 1
 @chrismac70: if you look at there old models from a decade ago its Santa Cruz that copied them..
  • 2 0
 that's the prettiest rocky cruz ive seen so far
  • 1 2
 It’s a Truid. Trance Druid
  • 1 2
 @orphan: awful customer service. No fault of the staff, whoever is in charge isn’t allowing enough budget to hire the amount of people needed.
  • 1 0
 Rocky Mountain-Cruz
  • 2 1
 @jnduda: and a trance front triangle vibe
  • 1 1
 @notthatfast: because suposedly horst is a very unable platform allowing to make almost any kind of behavior? Original vpps were only a bypass of horst patent...
  • 1 0
 @lkubica:
Original VPP is very different to current VPP. VPP is much stiffer and more reliable in my experience because of the short links
  • 1 0
 @orphan: as a Canadian, how about Rocky being a Canadian brand?
  • 1 0
 Socky Crountaz
  • 2 8
flag Eamonwarburg FL (Apr 10, 2024 at 23:57) (Below Threshold)
 I’m calling it ugly
  • 1 0
 What about a “Mountain Nomad”
I’d buy one for the name.
  • 1 0
 Mocky Cruzountain
  • 1 0
 @lkubica: A buddy of mine used to ride an Element back in the days and I just looked up a picture of the frame, but to me it seems like the wheel axle is on the chainstay, which is mounted to the front triangle. So the axle path is circular with respect to the front triangle, so not the floating IC which FSR considers important. Or are you referring to a different frame?
  • 3 3
 @JosMaple: just like the $4K Norco Sight frame these companies are in for a Rude awakening if they think we’re paying Yeti prices for a Rocky.
  • 2 0
 @vinay: pretty sure my old element was single pivot. I don't remember any lower links. Snapped the chainstay on that one.
  • 1 0
 maybe they copied the 2006 slayer
  • 2 0
 @sospeedy: -So i should treat them better than other brands simply because they are Canadian just, like they treat me (or you) better because we are Canadian -Oh Wait
I already have an RM ,and this bike looks good but so do a lot of others that have just come out - just trying to find the "why this one" -if being a Canadian brand means better /easier/faster warranty service then thats a real valid selling point
  • 1 0
 @EmBe81: some clay? Or more clay?
  • 2 2
 I just don't get it. I spent 3 minutes googling parts and I could put the c70 shimano build together for $900 less than their asking. It's like they're assuming their customers have no concept of what bike parts actually cost.
  • 1 0
 @rpdale: I'm all for saving money via building myself but bet their labor costs, training and increased shipping all contribute to the current insane pricing.
  • 1 1
 @rpdale:
Yeah I'm not buying that...
  • 2 0
 @orphan: except they have the slowest customer service in the bike industry.
  • 1 0
 Santa Mountain Hightude
  • 131 1
 Crazy that neither this nor the Forbidden have headset cable routing. So sad that the Canadian brands aren't giving us anything to complain about. (Except colors, but have you seen what kids are wearing these days?)
  • 169 1
 We totally agree that headset cable routing makes no sense! (but we do like colours)
  • 17 0
 Colourways are very subjective, not loving the new RM colours but the new Forbiddens looked hawwt.
  • 11 1
 @RockyMountainBicycles: I've got absolutely nothing to complain about on this bike. It looks like a perfect bike for the riding that I do. It appears that everything was very well thought out.
  • 10 0
 Come on man , this is Pinkbike , we could also be complaining because there is nothing to complain
  • 10 1
 @RockyMountainBicycles: idk what people are complaining about lol. These colors are rad.
  • 7 1
 @PeakHopper: See, and I am the other way around. I prefer the RM to the Forbidden colours...
  • 1 0
 I like how you used to use maple leaves as kind of a gradient to go from one color to the other, like from raw alu to red. Personally I'm no fan of these sharp divisions (between green and black here) either but think it would be cool for customers to get a set of maple leaf shaped stickers in both colors used to kind of recreate that effect if they'd want that.
  • 1 0
 @PeakHopper: Color fades > all black
  • 81 4
 Kid: "Mom, can we have Santa-Cruz"
Mom: "We already have Santa-Cruz at home"
  • 9 73
flag hi-dr-nick FL (Apr 10, 2024 at 7:52) (Below Threshold)
 Awww how cute you based it off looks
  • 60 0
 @hi-dr-nick: yeah that’s what makes it funny.
  • 2 0
 Saw that meme on IG this morning lol
  • 72 0
 $5000 for a frame is nuts.
  • 21 2
 My ripmo AF was 4500 for an entire bike. Admittedly, I could have gone baller components and hit about 6500. I'm not poor, but this is outta my league entirely. If I drop that coin, I want a motor!
  • 12 1
 My thoughts too, that's getting really deep into boutique territory. The new Forbidden Dreadnaught is only $500 CAD more for the same thing.
  • 2 0
 seriously, you can get a last year santa cruz megatower for that price these days
  • 15 1
 will be about 40% off in about 6 months if you can wait
  • 3 1
 @tim-from-pa: haha, I hope for their sake that doesn't happen. Some sweet deals on last years' bikes right now, though. Wish I had the budget. My kids spend all my money.
  • 1 0
 @jesse-effing-edwards: don't give them your cc.
  • 8 0
 Frame only pricing is absurd across all brands. At least make the alloy version available like many brands do that have alloy versions. 2lbs ain't worth $3k to me.
  • 1 0
 Can get a WAO Arrival frame, with fork for similar price right now (been a ‘limited’ offer for 2+ months now)
  • 1 1
 @singelton deez nuts?
  • 1 0
 It’s $4099, actually.
BUT, I bought Nomad V6 frame for $1850 (incl. shipping and tax). Then got $150 gift card.
  • 1 0
 *got back* *received* gift card
  • 50 0
 "Penalty Box" on a Canadian bike has to be the best name for frame storage anyone has come up with so far.
  • 50 4
 I'm 5'5" and ride small bikes and it's good to see the size small is 27.5" all around. Wish there was more of this.
  • 9 1
 this only freaking makes sense. wheel size is just one more piece of bike sizing in my opinion. Obviously, there will be short people who prefer big wheels and big people who prefer small wheels.
  • 19 2
 @adrennan: Would be nice to see some full 27.5 options stock on medium and larges, doesn't make sense for all bikes but for some
  • 4 0
 @adrennan: my 5’5 Gf prefers full 29 and another friend who was actually interested in this bike wanted a mullet (and is no longer interested). Different strokes for different folks.
  • 5 3
 I typically ride size small bikes and I don't want a full 27.5". I'd like to have a mullet option, but Rocky have been limiting Small size frames to 27.5" for their enduro bikes for a bit now. Just won't buy one, they don't work for me.
  • 1 0
 While I currently own a full 27.5 bike and always ride size small, I would 100% go mullet for my enduro race bike. I've mulleted my bike before for laughs and the extra tracking stability and rollover is something I'd appreciate in a race situation. It also feels safer if your trails are full of holes and ruts. The latest geometry trend is for higher stack anyway, it's not like they'd have to use a super short head tube, something like 90-100mm would do and it's not an uncommon measurement.
  • 1 0
 I’m 5”6 and I want 29 in the front atleast
  • 1 0
 @luckynugget: I too, am pretty upset that everything keeps going mullet. I really enjoy the playful small wheels. Almost all trail bikes now are 29er or MX for M and L frame sizes. Bummed the 5010 went MX and doesn't have some way to keep 27.5. not everybody just wants to plow trails!
  • 2 0
 @luckynugget: Banshee makes the Spitfire, Rune, and Legend in dedicated 27.5 for all sizes (Sm-XL). They all use modern geometry, so you can pick the wheel size you want without sacrificing performance.
  • 45 0
 Whats with everything releasing this week? Its been a hard week to keep up
  • 48 0
 Everyone wants to get ahead of the Sea Otter releases next week.
  • 1 0
 @needmoregears: that makes sense, forgot Sea Otter was just around the bend
  • 13 0
 Even more is coming. New Raaw Jibb tomorrow.
  • 14 0
 It's because my birthday is tomorrow, and they know I'm a big spender Wink
  • 4 5
 @pisgahgnar: and a new knolly
  • 1 0
 @pisgahgnar: I’ve no idea why it posted that 3 times lol
  • 85 2
 We are so tired.
  • 4 0
 Sea Otter is coming.. all the Covid bikes that were in the making are finally paying off their banks and what’s been in hiding for two years has finally come to life
  • 9 23
flag chrismac70 FL (Apr 10, 2024 at 9:25) (Below Threshold)
 @brianpark: it must be tough having to ride these bikes and copy paste the press release. I feel your pain :-)
  • 3 2
 April is the start of a new fiscal year
  • 3 2
 @dividebyzero: in some places. Mostly UK and former colonies/commonwealth. For the majority of the world it’s Jan to December, and the US is October to September.
  • 2 0
 @brianpark: thoughts and prayers Wink
  • 1 0
 @pisgahgnar: Yep, spot-on re commonwealth countries, wiht a few outliers among them: Australia is June-July.
  • 37 1
 Clearly a new Industry conspiracy that all mountain bikes must be two-toned
  • 19 25
flag MTBrent FL (Apr 10, 2024 at 8:03) (Below Threshold)
 It's gross.
  • 4 0
 to entice the sport mart customers, MTB's new #1 demographic
  • 6 1
 @MTBrent: upvoted, but the new dreadnought in Fatty T is super sexy. In general I hate the two tone, doubly so with matchy matchy wheel and fork decals. Looks like the early 2000s.
  • 16 0
 Better than the uniform snot-green, pus-yellow or concrete-wall-grey that was all the rage in the industry for a few years.
  • 3 0
 It's "slimming", 2 tones ride 2 lbs lighter!! Smile
  • 1 0
 Best paint design I've seen in awhile, compliments the suspension design very nicely.
  • 23 2
 Apart from the green sticker overkill, this bike looks great and the geometry is excellent.
Nice slack HA, long chainstays and well-judged reach numbers. Useful adjustments too.
Good work RM. Not so sure about the pricing (especially here in the UK), but difficult to fault the bike on paper (seat tube maybe a touch long?)
  • 6 0
 Yeah it's nice to see a flip chip that actually does something. The geo is dialed in a way that I can actually see keeping it in neutral for most riding, slack for park, and steep for this one race near me that has like 500 meters of xc at the end of every enduro stage....
  • 13 0
 It's really good to see the altitude get its own frame. The last version was great, but it did sacrifice geometry to the fact that it was optimized for a smaller platform. I'm really looking forward to the Rocky Mountain demo events this year.
  • 5 3
 I’m bummed to see an actual seat tube angle slacker than the virtual. That was one of the strengths of the previous bike. This works against tall people ime.
  • 41 25
 When will company realise colour matching forks, rims etc is the lamest thing ever?
  • 20 2
 I think it would have been OK if it was just the fork, the rims are way too much
  • 18 0
 Don't mind the fork, but the wheels seem a bit much.
  • 12 2
 Damn, I like all that colormatching. lol Bikes colorscheme are lame these days. I'll go even further than that, I really miss colored rims.
  • 9 0
 To be fair they're just stickers. You can remove them if you don't like them, or buy a different color and slap a new sticker on if you really want the brand bling.
  • 7 0
 I can't stand that look either, at least they offer an all black version if you don't like all that. If you only buy black bikes then your spouse never can tell when you get a new one.
  • 3 0
 @zarban: this is gold trick !
  • 2 0
 Not sure if that is a tongue in cheek comment but I am all for the two tones and the matching. Especially if your paying $7k for it. Note the rims don't color match below a certain price.
  • 1 0
 Yeah man, it's time to bring back the mismatched orange forks we love and want!
  • 2 0
 What will pb commenters find to complain about next?? Lol I think the color matched rims and fork look dope.
  • 2 0
 I don't mind fork and shock even wheels but those wheels logo/sticker is way to big. A small we are one logo color matches will look cool but the whole wheel decals is too much.
  • 3 0
 wheel decals almost always look like crap to me
  • 1 0
 @PauRexs: this is the black trick !
  • 1 0
 Yeah the color matching makes it look dated for some reason. Not my cup of tea but also not a deal breaker. Haha the price is the deal breaker
  • 20 7
 @dariodigiulio Please include max seat post insertion for all sizes in these articles. It looks like that 175mm Fox Transfer is not slammed, not sure if that is because it can't be or because it's so short, you didn't want it to be. Either way, this is a critical decision point on a frame for a lot of buyers, manufacturers make it hard to find, Pinkbike shouldn't as well. This frame with the shock thru the seat tube I'm guessing can't swallow a 210mm post on a large, which makes it unsuitable for a lot of riders.
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 *200mm Transfer
  • 7 0
 The 'Technical Manual' for the bike lists 5 specific posts, with min/max saddle heights and insertion for all the different lengths of drop. Go look at a product page, it's under 'Owner Resources'... It's a hell of a lot more information than most brands put out
  • 23 0
 @dariodigiulio: Thanks for confirming Dario!

We made sure to prioritize this on all frame sizes. On a size large, the max insertion depth is 290mm, tons of room!
  • 2 0
 @RockyMountainBicycles: Thanks for that info!
  • 2 0
 Agree fully on this point. Seatpost bottom-out measured in mm above the bb would be a good standard measure. My ‘21 Meta seatpost bottom-out is depressingly high at like 170mm above bb, and on beauties like the Reeb Steezl it is way closer to the bb. I’d personally never buy an interrupted seat tube bike like this
  • 2 0
 @jeffelow: just took a look at this. pretty wildly detailed honestly. Right down the make/model of posts. This should be standard.

"The chart shows seatpost fitment with the seatpost travel fully extended. This allows you to determine what the lowest or highest position
your seatpost can be set at for the correct height in a seated pedalling position. The chart will also help guide you in determining the size
seatpost to install if the OEM one isn’t the desired size. Please note that the dimension listed is from the center of the BB to the top of the
OEM saddle. Crankset length can influence the seated fit and should also be considered if that component is changed. "
  • 15 2
 Wow, analog drivetrain option AND good pricing for the XT alloy/Fox Factory model. Good job!
  • 10 0
 @rockymountain please give whoever designed the Penalty Box a raise, best design I’ve seen.
  • 1 1
 Did they integrate any weather seals on it? If not.. HUGE fail
  • 15 0
 Thanks! That would be TJP in the North Van office — he crushed this bombproof design!
  • 13 0
 Thomas JanderPam
  • 10 0
 Outgoing Altitude is a really amazing bike and one of the nicest I’ve ridden. I’m very interested in trying the new one
  • 8 2
 This might be the most dialed geo sheet I've ever soon for this 6fter. The Large Neutral 29er makes sense, and all the adjustments seem well thought out and make reasonable, incremental change for personal taste/fit/conditions/style/etc.

I don't need a bike this big, but this seems like a winner.
  • 2 0
 It does look pretty great. I ride a big-travel bike and if I needed a new one, the Altitude would be near the top of my list. Or at the top.
  • 7 0
 Nice to see Rocky move to a threaded BB!!! I’m wondering if they decided to leave the seat tube spec at 30.9 in thinking that if we can’t give em’ the longest dropper at least we can give em’ a light dropper?!?
  • 8 0
 looks like a santa cruz or spesh enduro. lets see how it does this edr season
  • 5 0
 Dario, have you had the chance to dive into this new platform on high speed, open brake, repeated square edge hit sections, particularly when the grade is less steep?

I have ridden quite a few of long travel Rocky Mountains and that is kind of the one area that they don't do as well as some other options. IMO the phenomenon is across their lineup but it stands out more the longer the travel goes. I think Mike was hinting at the sensation being present in his Slayer review.

Interestingly, Alicia also described the Megatower as "harsh on chattery sections". I am curious, did the move to VPP improve this sensation for Rocky, and if so what is the tradeoff (nothing is perfect), or is it still a less-than-stellar area of performance on the platform?

Maybe it's far too early to tell.
  • 5 1
 It's a little early to get into the weeds, but I think the Rocky handles those situations very well. In flatter, repeated-compression areas, the issue I was having initially was keeping the bike high enough in travel. Adding quite a bit of shock compression (low and high) helped calm that down quite a bit.
Hope this helps, though a test ride in that exact situation is always going to be the best confirmation.
  • 1 0
 Unrelated to the new Altitude, but Mike's review of the Slayer has made me hesitate on it. Has anyone run a progressive spring in the shock?
  • 4 1
 @dariodigiulio: when the review for the new tracer came out all the reviewers complained about the suspension and how riders couldn't keep the bike from "bucking" forward in flatter turns and the bike had a tendency to be harsh deep in the travel. this altitude looks like it has very similar kinematics and progression as the tracer but this early review seems to shine on the suspension performance. curious as to how 2 bikes with such similar suspension setups could come away with 2 vastly different opinions.
  • 1 1
 @MarcusBrody: I run an air shock on the bike and it’s unreal… very progressive and playful! -DB@EB
  • 1 0
 @endlessbiking: Thanks! I've considered it. I'm not really prioritizing playfulness (I have a smaller bike). I want it to eat steep, loose, rocky, desert DH terrain (but I pedal there, so no true DH bike). There aren't too many really big hits where I ride, but basically constant rock gardens. Partially based on Mike's review, I wondered if the Slayer with the standard coil would end up sitting really deep by the 40th consecutive rock. I doubt I'm as good of a rider, but I am 25+ heavier and would be on a size larger, so I'd likely to be able to do less with the compression tune than he could.

@RockyMountainBicycles: Since you're here, care to weigh in? Have you tried the Slayer with a progressive coil?
  • 6 0
 @MarcusBrody: Given that the Slayer already features lots of progression in the rate curve, we haven't felt the need to explore the use of progressive coils.
  • 2 0
 I've never thought that Megatower review was fair, and I can't recall other reviewers having the same experience. I certainly haven't had that experience myself with mine, though I usually run a coil shock on it.
  • 1 0
 @novajustin: shock tunes.
  • 1 1
 @Tambo: both bikes come with shocks tuned for the bike. shock setup would be what i am leaning towards. which leads me to believe the reviewers really don't know how to setup their suspension.
  • 1 1
 @Bro-tato: exactly what i was thinking. 3 different brand bikes (sc, intense, rm) all with nearly the same suspension set up and yet they have 3 different riding experiences? i have the tracer and i have yet to experience any of the claims they said they found when riding the bike. i am starting to believe the people doing these reviews aren't hitting the mark with their suspension setup.
  • 7 0
 The “penalty box” name is so fitting for this Canadian brand. Love the look of the new bike Rocky, well done!
  • 6 0
 Little things - Maxxgrip Assegai, Cushcore, WTB saddle, threaded BB. It looks like RM was really thinking carefully about speccing the bike and sweated the details.
  • 7 3
 @dariodigiulio,

" I'm running a good bit more compression than I typically would and things feel nicely balanced."

What do you mean? Running more LSC and HSC on the shock or fork? Why?


M.
  • 1 0
 Yes I found this confusing as well. Maybe he meant to give better mid stroke support before a steep ramp up in progression.
  • 3 0
 Im going to assume he is referring to rear shock, its not meant to be a first ride of the fork...
with a leverage curve that starts out at 3.1 (the larger the number the more apt it is to go into its travel) you might want to run more compression damping, to "quiet" the active nature of the rear suspension, and add some additional support.

They dont have a leverage curve grapg, but 36% progression, depending on the curve could feel a little abrupt near end of travel, so the additional compression damping will add some control, and take some of the abruptness out of larger hits
  • 1 0
 @onawalk: I’m guessing he means more than usual simply due to the high opening leverage. I’d be curious to see if you can run a lot of compression and still get full travel with that amount of ramp up. Had to be one of the highest ramp ups on a stock frame…?
  • 1 0
 I believe he means he is running more compression in his shock because of the high leverage ratio off the top. Perhaps to counter the fluttery feeling he described earlier in the article.
  • 1 0
 A higher leverage ratio means you are using less shock stroke for a given amount of wheel displacement. If you're using less shock stroke, it means you are not displacing as much oil inside the damper. Thus, you need to use more compression to restrict the smaller oil flow to get the same effect as a larger oil flow.

Dario is saying the frame has a lot of progression (higher leverage ratio early in the travel). So I'm guessing he's using more LSC damping so the bike doesn't feel underdamped in the first portion of the travel.
  • 3 0
 I'm speaking to the shock, apologies for not being more specific. I'm still dialing things in (as mentioned), but settling quite close to closed on HSC and LSC and still getting plenty of grip and small bump comfort.
  • 2 0
 Sick bike, ordered one a while ago, looking foward to try it ! A bit disappointed that the alloy frame don't have the penality box 2.0. Feels like it would have been worth to go that extra mile to include it on all frames since the system is sick. Otherwise the bike is so sick!!
  • 14 2
 We are stoked to hear you have one on order! Unfortunately, aluminum isn’t carbon... and we were looking at a huge impact in weight. We had to make a call, and we didn’t think it was worth it this time around. You'll love the ride!
  • 8 1
 fun, easy DIY install on the alloy frame! If you have a drill, sawzall and a fibreglass kit you can install the frame storage on the alloy frame
  • 4 0
 @luckynugget: 100% warranty safe and factory approved too!
  • 2 0
 @luckynugget: LOL! Sounds like a 12-beer job.
  • 2 0
 AirTag integration, someone help me out here. My kid found an AirTag on the ground at the park a little while back. I thought maybe I’d be able to use my phone to find its owner, but couldn’t. What did happen though is that my phone detected the thing and warned me that someone may be using it to track my movements. Also, it sat on a desktop for a while and anytime it got moved, it would emit a jingle.

So, how/why do people use these things for theft recovery? If I’m going to put a tracker on a belonging I don’t want stolen, I don’t want that tracker alerting the thief to its presence—they’ll just remove it and my ability to track the thing is done. What am I missing? Can the owner configure this behavior when they set the device up?
  • 1 0
 Anytime they get near an iphone their location gets logged and uploaded. The registered owner of the AirTag is then able to track that location. So either the owner had no way to get a hold of you, or didnt care to come get it, but they were definitely aware of its location
  • 8 0
 Here's my take:
1. it cost very little to integrate in the PB 2.0 cover
2. best scenario is a snatch and grab out of a pickup bed or something as you are grabbing coffee, and as the thief is making their getaway you have that small window to see roughly where they are / are heading. It may take them a while to figure out where the tag is, if they are even aware of it
3. why would you NOT stack the deck in your favour, and take EVERY precaution to recover a stolen bike?

It's not foolproof, but it's better than a poke in the eye.
  • 1 0
 @RMB-PM: A friend had one in his town ebike. It got nicked (from his work!) and it soon went over the border to France. He somehow managed to get the French cops interested and they went round for a "quiet word" with the thief and he got his bike back. Apparently, they'd known that the guy was a wrongun for a while and were very pleased to be able to catch him redhanded.
  • 4 0
 I think it looks brilliant. Well done to everyone involved. I won’t be buying one, as it’s way above my budget. But a lovely bike it is indeed.
  • 2 0
 This looks awesome but I’m honestly glad to be keeping my prior generation altitude. It strikes a better balance of all mountain and enduro, and is a bit lighter.

Love that RM is pushing the envelope.

I wish there was space for an all mountain rig that prioritizes more all-around handling and weighs slightly less but still has the same travel as the Altitude.
  • 2 1
 Didn't the new Instinct slide up to fill the area the old Altitude was?
  • 1 0
 @mtmc99: Less travel (140 vs 160 rear)
  • 4 2
 Shouldn't a brand new 2024 bike come with 2024 model components? Correct me if I'm wrong here, but even the big $$$ fox models look to be fitted with leftover 2023 forks no? Surely as an OEM partner rocky knew the new grip X2 models were coming way in advance?
  • 4 3
 Really interesting to see the marketing photos on rockys site rocking oneup bars even though they're specced with next r bars. Even more interesting that they would choose to pick the next r over the ERA handlebars on the top models that remi was showing off.
  • 15 0
 We work with our athletes during our new product launches to showcase our bikes, and they sometimes work with different sponsors than what we spec our bikes with. The bike you are seeing on our website is Thomas Vanderham's!
  • 2 0
 @RockyMountainBicycles: Seems lots of your guys rock Oneup bars. Seeing as how the sample bikes went out with the outgoing Next R's and Old turbines will that be the spec moving forward or was that to skirt embargo stuff?
I can't make it out on your site in specs for the turbine as it lists clamp size as 40mm and rise as 35. With a upsweep of 4° likely a typo but handy to know.
Also whats the deal with your dropouts? Can i carry a UDH as a replacement or is it your own hanger? Seems transmission compatible but doesn't look like a UDH.
  • 6 0
 @AverageAdventurer: All sizes spec 40mm stems, 35mm clamp bars, 4-degree upsweep (yep, typo, thanks for catching that, we'll fix it!).

All alloy and carbon models are UDH compatible!
  • 1 0
 So many adjustments which great but chainstays length should be a must... it completely affects depending on the kind of terrain you're riding... and long chainstays which is great wouldn't be a con then if you have raw natural twisty gnarly sketchy trails like many parts of europe...
  • 5 0
 That Alloy 70 coil is the one. Hot damn
  • 5 2
 Wait just one minute. You can get a complete bike for $3,999 that is made out of metal, or a frame only for $4,099 that is made out of plastic. Huh. Interesting.
  • 3 1
 Ahh, nice looking bike but it feels like they ditched what made the Altitude special in favour of an undifferentiated sled like everyone else. Curious to see it in person, maybe I'm wrong.
  • 3 0
 Wild you can buy a full build for less that a frame set. Like they will give you 100$ to take those brakes/drivetrain/wheels/fork/tyres/bars/seat/ off their hands
  • 2 0
 Complete aluminum bike for $4k, Frame-only carbon for $4.1k
  • 1 0
 I totally appreciate the engineering behind the performance, locating the shock down low definitely helps weight distribution and center of gravity. But damn does it make it look like every other bike out there. I was really hoping that the altitude would use the same triangle as the instinct Again. The reason I went with the last year model instinct was the color way was better than the altitude. And all I had to do was switch out the upper shock mount, and it was instantly an altitude.
  • 3 2
 "The opening is huge"

How about some actual measurements, since storage compartments are now everywhere. It does look bigger than on a Santa Cruz or Trek, but certainly doesn't look "huge" compared to the opening on most Specialized models, and perhaps even smaller.
  • 3 0
 Measurements I don't have, but I've put 3 jerseys, our tube bag with tube installed, 2 AXS batteries, 3 granola bars, and 1 bag of Haribo bears in there for a big ride one time. Big enough that I forgot about that 3rd jersey in there for a couple of months...
  • 1 0
 @kperras: All that is not the size opening, that's size of the whole down tube. And most any carbon frame with storage in the downtube is going to approach that, except it's going to suck trying to get it all out (or in) with a small opening,
  • 3 0
 @justinfoil: The opening is yuge. Slightly larger than the swat opening on Specialized models which was the largest we measured. You can slide in a set a mid-weight kneepads with D30 inserts like the Atkas or Race Face Indys.
  • 1 0
 @kperras: And where are those measurements?
  • 5 0
 @justinfoil: Ok, I'll bite: I measure 50mm x 150mm.

WOOOO! I think we finally found the next thing we can all take a position on and argue about online!

"What? Your storage is 45mm x 160mm? UNRIDABLE"

Maybe we can devolve into arguing the pros and cons of rectangular vs oval openings? Clearly oval will yield a 13% increase in enjoyment.
  • 1 3
 @RMB-PM: Only PB editors will declare it unrideable, like "missing" 10mm of dropper drop. Regular riders will just make dick-size and hole-size jokes while they rally gnarly shit, and then rag on spare-tube-lacking small-holed friends as they whip four of them out of their massive stash hole and quote them tube loan prices in how many parking-lot IPAs will be provided.
  • 1 0
 @RMB-PM: My 2020 Stumpy's hole is 52mm x 160mm, rounded-rectangle with ~5mm radius corners.

By total area, definitely bigger, and most importantly for getting long firm things (everyone's favorite) like a pump to go in easily, it's taller/longer by 6.66%!!

Thus obviously making my bike eminently more ridable, huzzah!

Also, everyone know squircles and rounded-rects are sooo much better than ovals. You see any oval smartphones out there? Didn't think so. The Palm Pre was probably the closest and that died a fast death, though arguably much too soon.
  • 4 1
 This bike looks great and it seems that RM did about everything right. The PB peanut gallery is just too much these days however. The negativity is just, too much guys.
  • 1 3
 other than no sm size in 29 or mx which will leave anyone under 5'8 on a 27.5
  • 1 0
 @dariodigiulio I've been contemplating a new bike and moving from the all-mountain style to enduro and specifically looking at the Megatower. The wheelbase on this bike is a bit longer than the megatower. do you have time on that bike, and can you comment on how noticeable the wheelbase difference is?
  • 1 0
 The ride 4 chip and chainstay flip chip allowed me to really dial in my 22 altitude. And now you added adjustable headset cups and the penalty box. The new bike is actually starting to be a bit of looker compared to my 22. Now if we could just improve your response time on warranty parts to your dealers! Previous generation charges but if it’s down a month waiting on parts that doesn’t really matter…
  • 1 0
 Wonder how the LC2R suspension platform compares to the Niner CVA? Looks like the design operates virtually the same, with the CVA having a higher BB height with a lower lower-link position. I've had two Niner's and loved how the CVA felt, extremely playful.
  • 3 0
 Almost. Next iteration flatten out the upper leg of the swingarm and make it look like RM7/9. Loved the look of that moto-style frame!
  • 1 0
 Looked great but was so flexy. Still didn’t stop me from riding an RM6 and an RM7.
  • 1 0
 Vpp patent expired so why is 4 bar treated any different from vpp? Just to let you know virtual pivot designs are all similar, the important thing is how you tune it to achieve certain antisquat, antirise, pedal kickback, axle path.
  • 1 0
 Is there anywhere I can ride one of these on the trail so I can see how it actually feels? It's easy to assess basic fit using geometry charts which is really all I get from a parking lot test at a local bike shop. Other than supporting the LBS, what's the benefit of buying locally vs online?
  • 3 0
 Cascade components is gonna be salty when they start making links for this bike
  • 6 0
 they won't
the don't make links for the current lineup as it is progressive AF. To a degree that you can run x2 without tokens
2021 Altitude has 40% progression in the neutral setting and it ramps up as you slacken it
  • 2 0
 @catamplifier: yeah CC won't make anything here like they don't make anything for YT since they're already fairly progressive too
  • 6 0
 New Cascade Extra Linear Linkage, takes it down to 19% progression and steepens the HTA to 64.5
  • 6 2
 they could have at least used a different colorway than the Megatower..
  • 3 0
 Now it looks like a Santa Cruz and has an interrupted seat tube like most other bikes.
  • 2 0
 It looks so good in black, and the silhouette is beautiful, but then you throw that any green half color scheme and it looks terrible.
  • 3 3
 Glad to see in frame storage but it's total BS to lock it behind the carbon model. YT recently did this as well with the Jeffsy. I'm no apologist for the big boys but Specialized and Trek are somehow able to bring this to alloy models.
  • 8 2
 Likely because YT and RM know that only poor people buy aluminum bikes they can't afford to buy anything to put in there anyway.
  • 7 2
 Inframe storage is meh anyway but it adds a ton of weight to an alloy bike. as pointed out by RM
  • 1 0
 ‍(Shrug) I like it, could be a lot of fun to ride and like the old saying "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" ~ This could ride as well as a Santa Cruz & would that really be a bad thing?
  • 1 0
 @RockyMountainBicycles: longshot, but any chance you know where to source a THE fender like the one that came on the 2003 Slayer and Edge?

Like this: www.pinkbike.com/photo/17673105
  • 1 0
 Sweet looking bike! Nice to see a complete redesign. It’s going to be hard to distinguish this from a Santa Cruz, specialized and crestline from afar!!!! I wonder if all of RM frames will follow suit???
  • 1 1
 I know it's a challenge updating a design but I liked the look of the older design more. The new one looks like it could easily be mistaken as an e-bike. The downtube looks wider in relation to the TT. I'm sure it rides great though.
  • 1 0
 Something something because usable storage space in downtube
  • 11 7
 Looks like a Megatower.
  • 7 6
 Kudos on all the details with the reach adjust and cable management but bummed to move from a horst link to VPP. If I wanted VPP I'd buy a Santa Cruz.
  • 12 2
 We’ve taken everything we loved about the race-proven and award-winning Altitude, and cranked it up to 11. The LC2R™ design provides more support with a more linear rate curve — so more lively, and more better. One of the main goals was lowering that center of gravity, and this design was the way to go. Dig in a bit deeper and you'll see that our unique take on a virtual pivot design is actually different!
  • 3 3
 Now do the Instinct. Despite the fact that "The all-mountain enduro bike is out, and the go-fast bike is in.", what I want is a "go-fast all-mountain" bike. (which correct me if I'm wrong is what the Altitude used to be?!).
  • 16 0
 What do you mean? They released a new instinct a few weeks ago.
  • 2 5
 @finblarr: "new"... it's the same layout as the old one. I mean do it with this new layout. I like everything about this new Altitude. This is obviously just my personal opinion, but I would like it to lean more towards to "all-mountain" side of things rather than enduro side of things... (i.e. a touch less travel, and a leverage curve that is balanced 50/50 up/down). My bike is a 160f / 155r "all mountain" bike that is good at going up and good at going down. It's also 8 years old. When it comes time to replace it, I'd like something that matches those characteristics, but I'm finding increasingly hard to find.
  • 3 0
 @slyfink: The Atherton 150 is calling your name.
  • 8 4
 It’s so ugly goodness
  • 2 0
 @dariodigiulio How does it pedal? Both climbing and sprinting out of corners?
  • 7 1
 Pretty well, it's definitely biased towards the descents. Every ride on the bike has been 3-5k' of climbing, and it doesn't feel like it's dragging me down at all. Sprints pretty well in trail situations.
  • 1 0
 @dariodigiulio: Good to hear, thanks!
  • 4 2
 Are the dark days of Horst Link over? Probably not, but happy to see less of it.
  • 3 3
 I'd need to know a few answers:

- Why the change?
- How thoroughly has the new design been tested?

Imitation is the best form of flattery - so of course they'd want to imitate Santa Cruz.
  • 1 0
 So what is Ride4 Position 2 meant for? Seems like it's really Ride3, since there is zero mention of who does number 2 work for.
  • 3 0
 Looks a lot like my 2008 Rocky Mtn. Slayer. LCR2 is back baby!
  • 1 0
 @RockyMountainBicycles: Would putting a 160mm fork on this frame be possible? I'm considering parts swap with my current bike...
  • 1 0
 I have no use for a long travel bike...but if I did I'd get this over a Santa Cruz just so I didn't have to be bro #284 with a SC at my local
  • 2 0
 Nice bike, the Alloy 70 Coil looks like a way to go for me, how much will be an alloy frame set?
  • 1 0
 Isn't the AirTag not a good anti-theft device because it has anti-stalking features? Has there been changes to it or something lately?
  • 1 2
 Reintroducing the LC2R name maybe, but the original was just a linkage driven single pivot . The heart of the VPP patent is 2 counter rotating short links which this clearly is as well. I find it very hard to believe that there isn’t someone at Santa Cruz legal dept with a stiffy right now. Time will tell.
  • 2 0
 Thought the VPP patent(s) expired, hence the timing on this one
  • 1 0
 @Assclapp: that would make sense, I hadn’t looked into it, but damn if that’s the case, I am getting old.
  • 1 0
 You can achieve the same kinematics with every multi link design. But then you have a lot of other things to take care of like flex and strength, durability , geo etc...
  • 4 6
 I was really hoping to get a small 29r which used to be medium lol. At 5'7" the mediums reach number puts me a ways out of my RAD fit. And as much as I love the fun factor of 27.5, I also love the rollover of 29r's. Us shorties have been sized out the past few years. Pumped for the ones this rig fits though!
  • 19 1
 RAD is literally one guy's opinion...
  • 18 2
 @aphollis: not to mention that that one guy is a total kook.
  • 1 1
 @aphollis: not really, but if that's your opinion. Maybe you've had more success at bike fit than Sam Hill or countless others using RAD? But hey! I'm just some opinionated kook having fun playing bikes. So honestly whatever bike and fit puts a smile on your face is the right one for you. Is there really a right and wrong ‍♂️
  • 1 0
 I am really glad people are waking up
  • 3 2
 Thats closest to the intense tracer in my opinion. The old version was really cool, this not so much.
  • 2 0
 Best color scheme, I'm Nomad about it
  • 2 0
 Two tone. So hot right now. Two tone.
  • 1 1
 two chains*
  • 1 0
 Kind of curious to know how the main pivot on the bottom bracket works in more detail. Are there just monster bearings?
  • 9 1
 You can see how it works in more detail on bikes.com, but YES, the bearings are seriously oversized. They've been through the wringer and are super smooth, even after a full PNW winter or riding.
  • 4 1
 @RockyMountainBicycles: gorgeous looking bike, super excited to go check one out
  • 9 7
 Santa Cruz wants their homework back
  • 2 2
 Who is down voting this comment? LoL
  • 2 0
 Why doesn’t it look like a Session?!?!
  • 2 0
 I was not expecting it to look liked that.
  • 3 1
 screw that, i'm gonna say it: looks like a nomad
  • 2 0
 Love a 2013 trek remedy 9 color scheme
  • 2 0
 The alloy 30 for $4k seems like a fair deal
  • 2 1
 Definitely not getting another bike with an X2. Disappointed to not see a Vivid option.
  • 2 4
 Welcome back to the 21st century Finally a new design that looks modern They making bikes that look like they regressed in time Bring back a DH bike ! Whoever has been making the decisions in the last 5 to 10 years should be fired
  • 2 0
 Pedaling is overrated and overpriced
  • 2 0
 The comments are exactly as positive as I expected, lol.
  • 2 0
 looks good, should be a fast bike
  • 1 0
 patiently waiting for transition to get of the fsr band wagon and hop ships to vpp!
  • 1 2
 Yep can't unsee it, it looks like the SC...Dont care where the difference lies, the shape, design and lines are damn near the same...that's like make it 30% different so we don't get sued type of close.
  • 1 2
 Does anyone else remember how bad the LC2R Slayer was compared to the models before and after? That design disappeared for a reason, unless the market was clamoring for bikes with 30% less fun-factor.
  • 3 1
 At least it doesn't have a high pivot.
  • 1 1
 All that information and it doesn't tell you how high it actually goes. Disappointing with a name like that..
  • 2 0
 Some of the Rocky testers have ridden it at 42,069ft.
  • 4 3
 Rocky Mountain Mega Tracer?
  • 5 3
 This bike is sexy
  • 7 7
 Awww, they copy/pasted a Specialized Enduro and crossed it with a Nomad. How cute.
  • 5 2
 Except it doesn't really have anything to do with the Enduro. It's precisely a Nomad/Megatower but with the lower link pivoting around the BB, and less elegant industrial design.
  • 1 0
 How many new product launches have happened in the past 24 hours? lol
  • 1 0
 Is the 4th geo position slacker than slack or steeper than steep?
  • 5 0
 With LC2R, it's a bit different than Smoothlink. Position 4 is steep, position 1 is slack. You can see the details (and how the geo changes) on the product page on bikes.com
  • 4 3
 2013 Bronson called, it's pissed off and wants its paint scheme back
  • 2 0
 lime green? this is like mint green
  • 1 0
 what no flip chips and dip 29 combos
  • 3 2
 That is straight up one of the ugliest colorways I've ever seen
  • 1 0
 Yeah but when’s the new stumpjumper coming out?
  • 2 2
 Umm $15k for a bike with the previous generation sram brakes when the new ones have been out for a year now? I'll pass
  • 1 0
 I like their bikes but I the 2 tone colour schemes put me off
  • 1 0
 It looks good from here, that's about all I'm qualified to say .
  • 1 0
 Vets need a bike just like the dentist..
  • 3 2
 Or an enduro
  • 2 1
 Did not expect this
  • 3 2
 Nice spesh enduro
  • 1 0
 wher is the stam udh
  • 2 2
 lol what is this? Santa cruz or intense? maybe they hired someone new?
  • 1 3
 Well we know where Nukeproof designs ended up, this looks a lot like the Giga to me
  • 2 2
 People see any low shock bike now and call it a santa cruz
  • 1 1
 Thats Forbidden
  • 1 0
 whos gonna say it?
  • 1 1
 How is this not a Nukeproof Giga?
  • 2 0
 Overall look is very similar, but pretty different with the Pass-Through shock and the main pivot being on the bottom bracket. It is super similar to santa cruz's VPP
  • 3 2
 F*cking sick of URT.
  • 2 1
 Ew, 29
  • 3 2
 Ah is this a Santa Cruz?
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 donut calls it forbidden
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 Who does #2 work for?
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 sra
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 I smell a law suit ....
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 Shitty warranty...................sorry Rocky..........I'm out
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 Hi
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