Big Wheelin' - Lourdes DH World Cup 2017 - Qualifying Photo Epic

Apr 29, 2017 at 12:09
by Dave Trumpore  



Under sunny skies and on one of the best tracks on the circuit, the racing finally kicked off here in Lourdes and marked the official start of the 2017 World Cup Series. Just as predicted, the day was packed with action, a little drama, and all kinds of excitement. While yesterday's timed training session helps to give a rough idea of where people might shake out, it's not until the clock ticks for real and ever precious World Cup series points are on the line until we really get to see how everyone stacks up. And in every category, there were more than a few surprises.

First up were the junior men, where reigning champ Finn Iles was looking all but unbeatable. But as they say, "looks can be deceiving," and it would actually be Matt Walker who would grab the top spot ahead of Kaos Seagrave who put down an amazing time to grab his best ever result. Finn, of course, is still in the mix, but at 1.6 seconds down on such a short track, it's not going to come easy. Newcomer Kade Edwards would take 4th in his first ever World Cup, and showed that the next generation to come through the ranks will be as competitive as ever.

In the women's, race we saw some of the closest racing in what feels like ages, with the top five separated by less than five seconds and the top three just two seconds apart. Even more impressive is who wasn't at the top of the list. Pre-race favorite and unbeaten for nearly two years, Rachel Atherton was knocked back a spot by Tahnee Seagrave. Tahnee had the speed all of 2016 and was definitely the heir apparent to Rachel's throne, but injury upon injury kept knocking her back each time she got close. With a solid off-season to train and heal up, Tahnee is finally living up to her potential and wants nothing more than to leave her mark on 2017. Third through fifth would be made up of Manon Carpenter, Tracey Hannah and Myriam Nicole. All of whom, are within striking distance of the top time.

For the men, it wasn't just an issue of who, but also of what. Sure, the usual suspects were up front and the current Word Cup and World Champs finished a few spots back, but the real news was which bikes took top honors. There's been rumbling all off-season about the development of 29ers and lots of talk about how they are faster, etc. Of course, there has been equally as much trash talk being thrown right back at all the hype. Today was judgment day so to speak, and the big wheels let the stopwatch do all the talking. Not only did Loris Vergier pilot the big wheeled V10 to the fastest time, his teammate Luca Shaw would come third to make a Bruni Sandwich out of Loic, who managed to slip his little wheels in between. The fastest men of 2016, Danny Hart and Aaron Gwin would round out the top five, just ahead of Greg Minnaar and his 29er.

While the big wheels proved they can put down some pace and run at the top of the field, they certainly didn't prove to be the be-all end-all that some rumors had made them out to be. In fact, the qualifying round in Lourdes produced some of the tightest times we have seen on the circuit with the top five separated by a mere 1.3 seconds, and the entire top 10 all within three seconds. With tomorrow being the true day of reckoning, we are guaranteed to be in for one heck of a show.

Another cold morning at the top of the track as the Women and Juniors dropped in at 8am.
Another cold morning at the top of the track as the Women and Juniors dropped in at 8am.

Crash pads waiting to catch the unwary.
Crash pads waiting to catch the unwary.

The track has been getting drier looser and blown out. If the rain comes in as forecast it is anyone s game.
The track has been getting drier, looser and blown out. If the rain comes in as forecast it is anyone's game.

Hmmm... Who s hemet could this be.
Hmmm... Whose helmet could this be.

Kaos Seagrave had his best result ever in the junior race to slot into 2nd place just about one second off the top time.
Kaos Seagrave had his best result ever in the junior race to slot into 2nd place just about one second off the top time.

Matt Walker took the top spot in Juniors ahead of Kaos Seagrave and Finn Iles.
Matt Walker took the top spot in Juniors ahead of Kaos Seagrave and Finn Iles.

Finn Iles was looking unbeatable in practice but as they say looks can be deceiving. He would qualify third just 1.6 back.
Finn Iles was looking unbeatable in practice, but as they say, looks can be deceiving. He would qualify third just 1.6 back.

5.9 seconds back and time for these kinds of shapes on his qualie run... Kade Edwards brings home the goods. The Athertons know how to pick them.
5.9 seconds back and time for these kinds of shapes on his qualie run... Kade Edwards brings home the goods. The Atherton's know how to pick them.

Mannon Carpenter is back on form after an up and down 2016 and has set herself up t be a threat in tomorrow s final.
Manon Carpenter is back on form after an up and down 2016 and has set herself up to be a threat in tomorrow's final.

In her first WC qualifying on the Specialized Gravity Republic Miranda ended up in 8th.
In her first WC qualifying on the Specialized Gravity Republic Miranda ended up in 8th.

Emilie Siebenthaler is sitting in 5th but has a lot of work to do if she wants to catch the top ladies.
Emilie Siegenthaler is sitting in 5th but has a lot of work to do if she wants to catch the top ladies.

This section took Tracey Hannah out on a winning run a few years back but she had no troubles today en route to a 4th in qualifying. With the top 5 women all within four seconds of each other we are in for one super competitive final.
This section took Tracey Hannah out on a winning run a few years back, but she had no troubles today en route to a 4th in qualifying. With the top five women all within four seconds of each other, we are in for one super competitive final.

A modest 5th this afternoon for Myriam Nicole but still less than 5 seconds back does she have more to wow the fans in the big show on this savage course
A modest 5th this afternoon for Myriam Nicole, but still less than 5 seconds back, does she have more to wow the fans in the big show on this savage course?

Tahnee has been saying all off season that she wants to beat Rachel Atherton and end the winning streak and today she got one step closer to that goal.
Tahnee has been saying all off-season that she wants to beat Rachel Atherton and end the winning streak, and today she got one step closer to that goal.

Chasing for the win is not something Rachel Atherton is used to doing but that s exactly what she ll have to do if she wants to be on top tomorrow.
Chasing for the win is not something Rachel Atherton is used to doing, but that's exactly what she'll have to do if she wants to be on top tomorrow.

Rachel Atherton will ride only second last down the hill for the first time since Tahnee last caught her out for qualifying back in Lenzerheide last season.
Rachel Atherton will ride second to last down the hill for the first time since Tahnee last caught her out for qualifying, back in Lenzerheide last season.

Tahnee Seagrave starting the year as she means to go on... tomorrow s a big day. Second at all the splits to Atherton but picking up the pace on the final section to come out on top can she pull out a quicker top half and make her 1.3 second advantage safe for finals
Tahnee Seagrave starting the year as she means to go on... tomorrow's a big day. Second at all the splits to Atherton, but picking up the pace on the final section to come out on top, can she pull out a quicker top half and make her 1.3 second advantage safe for finals?

Danny looked like he meant business on the morning warm up.
Danny looked like he meant business on the morning warm up.

Loic Bruni has always been fast here and today he came 2nd just behind Loris Vergier.
Loic Bruni has always been fast here, and today he came 2nd just behind Loris Vergier.

How tight was it in the men s race Well Troy Brosnan was only 1.8 seconds back but that was only good enough to put him in 7th position.
How tight was it in the men's race? Well, Troy Brosnan was only 1.8 seconds back but that was only good enough to put him in 7th position.

Vergier s intentions were clear from the first run this morning gaping the biggest and cleanest through this rock transfer.
Vergier's intentions were clear from the first run this morning, gapping the biggest and cleanest through this rock transfer.

Big wheels represent... Greg Minnaar backed up his young team mate s top performances with a 6th place qualie just 1.4 seconds behind.
Big wheels represent... Greg Minnaar backed up his young teammate's top performances with a 6th place qualie, just 1.4 seconds behind.

Gutierrez getting low in the first turn.
Gutierrez getting low in the first turn.

Remi Thirion at warp speed near the top of the track.
Remi Thirion at warp speed near the top of the track.

Big wheels doing it with authority under Loris Vergier today.
Big wheels doing it with authority under Loris Vergier today.

Mick Hannah tucking and hucking to flat.
Mick Hannah tucking and hucking to flat.

Not a mistake just a creative and relatively insane media-vest buzzing line from Bernard Kerr.
Not a mistake, just a creative and relatively insane, media-vest buzzing line from Bernard Kerr.

A solid day for Dean Lucas despite a south- roaming knee pad during his qualie run... One of many riders who have the potential for a big result tomorrow.
A solid day for Dean Lucas despite a south- roaming knee pad during his qualie run... One of many riders who have the potential for a big result tomorrow.

One last side-ways practice run for the Syndicate lads before dropping a 29inch bomb on the field for qualies.
One last sideways practice run for the Syndicate lads before dropping a 29-inch bomb on the field for qualies.

The Superbruni propaganda begins... and what does it mean I guess we ll never know.
The Superbruni propaganda begins... it seems Loic's made the move from Pope to kids chocolate promoter in the space of a year.

The ever-cheerful Super-Bruni featuring t-rex arm. Second today for France s favourite.
The ever-cheerful Super-Bruni, featuring T-Rex arm. Second today for France's favourite.

A good day for Brook who slotted into a top ten starting position for tomorrow.
A good day for Brook who slotted into a top ten starting position for tomorrow.

Danny exploding through one of the top rock gardens 4th place 0.6 back... Hart is well and truly in the hunt.
Danny exploding through one of the top rock gardens, 4th place 0.6 back... Hart is well and truly in the hunt.

Another of last years standout riders Adam Brayton had a rough day to finish just inside the top 30.
Another of last year's standout riders, Adam Brayton, had a rough day to finish just inside the top 30.

not the start Connor Fearon was looking for in 32nd.
Not the start Connor Fearon was looking for in 32nd.

Not his greatest showing for qualies but giant roots and boulders are just the kind of terrain where Greenland can put the hurt into all the big names.
Not his greatest showing for qualies, but giant roots and boulders are just the kind of terrain where Greenland can put the hurt into all the big names.

Luca Shaw put down his best quail run ever to take third making in a 1 3 6 day for the new big wheeled V10.
Luca Shaw put down his best quail run ever to take third, making it a 1,3,6 day for the new big wheeled V10.

Reunited team mates Mullaly and Gwin talk lines on Aaron s only practice run of the day.
Reunited teammates Neko Mullaly and Aaron Gwin talk lines on Aaron's only practice run of the day.

The only other rider in recent memory who seems to like to ride so little and still pull out the top results is Sam Hill. Gwin rode just 3 laps yesterday and only one disjointed run with Mullaly this morning before arriving in 5th place for qualies. How does he do it
The only other rider in recent memory who seems to like to ride so little and still pull out the top results is Sam Hill. Gwin rode just 3 laps yesterday and only one disjointed run with Mullaly this morning before arriving in 5th place for qualies. How does he do it?

Thomas Estaque is one of the many young French riders who are knocking on the door of the top 10 right now.
Thomas Estaque is one of the many young French riders who are knocking on the door of the top 10 right now.

Joe Smith had a massive crash and had to pul off track with what looked like an injured shoulder. Let s hope it s not too serious and that he will be back out amongst it at the next round.
Joe Smith had a massive crash and had to pull off track with what looked like an injured shoulder. Let's hope it's not too serious and that he will be back out amongst it at the next round.

Another day of smashing rocks by the riders and another day of building wheels by the mechanics.
Another day of smashing rocks by the riders and another day of building wheels by the mechanics.

Tracey Hannah still has a badly injured ankle sustained last month in NZ but that isn t stopping her from fighting at the front of the pack. 4th today and just 18 out of the lead.
Tracey Hannah still has a badly injured ankle sustained last month in New Zealand, but that isn't stopping her from fighting at the front of the pack. 4th today and just 18 out of the lead.

Tahnee with a well deserved post race massage. She is all smiles and confidence heading into tomorrow s final.
Tahnee with a well deserved post race massage. She is all smiles and confidence heading into tomorrow's final.

Amaury Pierron congratulates his friend Loris Vergier on a job well done.
Amaury Pierron congratulates his friend Loris Vergier on a job well done.

What a day for the boys running the super-size set-up...but can they tip the bike industry on it s head with a repeat in the finals
What a day for the boys running the super-size set-up...but can they tip the DH world on its head with a repeat in the finals?

A slow start to Danny s run and still only less than a second back consecutive win number 5 is still well within reach.
A slow start to Danny's run and still only less than a second back, consecutive win number 5 is still well within reach.

Luckily for those who had disappointing results today we are in Lourdes a place where all kinds of miracles have been known to happen.
Luckily for those who had disappointing results today, we are in Lourdes, a place where all kinds of miracles have been known to happen.



131 Comments

  • + 134
 Some stunning images as always! Wink
  • + 32
 This should be at the top, not another 29er debate.
  • + 6
 For sure, love looking at these photo epics of places I'll probably never get to see in person.
  • + 3
 @valhallascott: yes, I'm glad there are the pics of the local scenery.
  • - 2
 yes those 29ers definitely make the image look more appealing.
  • + 1
 @scott-townes: alternatively hold the screen closer to your face.
  • + 2
 Dave's photo of Vergier airborne in corner is Awesome! What a shot!
  • + 57
 Please remember Vergier and Shaw are the 7th and 9th ranked riders in the world, and only just 20 years of age, so right when riders progress the most. Minnaar is the most successful WC DH rider of all time...

Ok, now have at it Razz
  • - 10
flag pablopicasso1 (Apr 29, 2017 at 15:14) (Below Threshold)
 Not sure, it would be good to see a full 29er level player field. Then we would see who comes out on top. No disrespect to shaw or vergier
  • + 22
 Also remember first year on the Syndicate with both Minnaar and Peaty to mentor them, Kings would pay for that privelage alone! I'm not surprised to see them at the pointy end, forget wheel size, focus from a pro team and hard work in the off season!
  • - 13
flag jaame (Apr 29, 2017 at 16:58) (Below Threshold)
 I can't see anyone other than Bruni or Hart winning the overall this year
  • + 6
 @plplplplplplplplplplplp: then everyone should ride the same bike and suspension and drivetrain and tires. There's always going to be an edge somewhere.
  • + 1
 Baha right on, also I think the "equipment advantage" is a big mental boost which outweighs any wheel diameter advantage. Let's see how that mentality holds up for those last 3 riders tmrw
  • + 15
 Aaron Gwin is only 1 win from Greg Minnarr's record. 18 wins vs 19 wins and with less than half the time racing WC. Minnaar started in 1998 and Gwin started in 2008. Don't forget that Gwin has the most wins (men) in a single WC season at 5. I'm just saying,
  • + 21
 @plplplplplplplplplplplp: If anyone can run anything within the rules, how is it not a level playing field? Equipment choice is a huge part of the game. SC took a big risk with the 29ers. It might pay off. Anyone else could have done the same thing.
  • + 14
 You think they're fast on this track. Wait till they get to somewhere over twice as long like Fort Bill. They'll be in another dimension with the lower accumulative fatigue when they reach the motorway.
  • + 4
 most successful male rider!!
  • + 1
 @derekbob: Yes, you are absolutely on point. SC took the risk and is rewarded. Others dabbled on social media but ended up with nothing.

I think it already paid itself off. Even though this is just qualifying, it's on WC.

It showed there's nothing wrong with the 29ers being used in DH and with more r&d they could be consistent winning machines. Straight lining tech stuffs instead of weaving around them. Weaving could be fun on trail but not during a race where seconds counts.

And for sure it's doesn't offer a whole different level of playing field like a moto with more horsepower that some dh doomsdayers made it to be.

It's works more in a geometry way, imho. It affects a bike's angle of attack and roll over, similar to head angle degree and reach figures. Offers high speed stability just like wheelbase figures and etc.
  • + 55
 Those Bruni propaganda posters crack me up. Too good.
  • + 1
 Bruni president!!
  • + 5
 If I eat choco Bruni bars I'm sure I'll be faster on my bike!!!!
  • + 9
 I personally loved that he is +fast while also being -slow. His secret is out...
  • + 50
 Personally i welcome change and inovation to DH. thats what its been about since the start. im not a 29 band wagon either. i still ride a 2003 v10 dinosaur. i just think it makes sense to try every posisbilty for speen no mater what people think and it doesnt mean i have to buy it. i enjoy watching formula one but i dont have to have a F1 car. Thats how top sports should be. there should be dreams and inovation.
  • + 9
 That's clear perspective^^^ Well Put
  • + 37
 Sing along with me

"Big wheels keep on turnin',
Pinkbikers keep on squirmin',
roll'n, roll'n,
roll'n on the 9ers!"
  • + 23
 TAHNEEEEEEEY
  • + 19
 Fastest rider will win.
  • - 5
flag jclnv (Apr 29, 2017 at 18:16) (Below Threshold)
 Well I'd say that's Bruni so we'll see.
  • + 18
 actually the rider with the lowest cumulative time through all the splits will win
  • + 11
 Well done Kaos, unfortunately for Tahnee I suspect Miss Atherton has been riding well within herself for the past year or so, and can probably step it up one or two gears. As for the guys , BRING IT !!!! It's going to be an awesome season .
  • + 1
 Rach has got that classic champion's ability to rise to the occasion. So yeah I wouldn't be putting money against her. However anything can happen in racing!
  • + 7
 I suspect Bruni, Gwin, Hart have allot more to give, Brosnan also looking calm, but it's anyone's, top 10 esp! Pressure pressure pressure! Going be off the hook, best start to a season for ages I reckon!
  • + 3
 Points on offfer. They are going full bore.
  • + 5
 gwin is pretty savvy, don't show your hand unless you have to. Very little practice and in 5th, D.H. looking very in control and like he has lots more speed than he is showing also.
  • + 6
 Well apart from the over the bars moment.
  • + 8
 I love those 29er Santas
  • + 3
 Best photos and photogs around! I am shocked at the quality each time. That one of Rachel - the eyes are tack sharp... unbelievable! Any chance you could include some portrait orientation shots for my phone wallpaper? Kidding... but ... maybe?

Thanks!!
  • + 5
 DH 29ers will be the normal in a few years- and that's not a bad thing. We should embrace technological evolution. Having moved from 26 to 29 I'm stunned at the difference.
  • + 12
 Wrong, 36 is going to be normal in a few years. Bigger is faster, faster is better, right?
  • - 2
 @cmkneeland: Being British i appreciate your sarcasm, but if the frame design/geometry and wheel technology (strength vs weight) can be worked out then I genuinely think you could be right. May take a while though.
  • + 5
 Negative I suspect 29"fr /27.5" rear will,be the norm for mortals and 29" will be for Giants!
  • + 5
 @cmkneeland: poor loris is already complaining about the tyre buzzing his a$$, I'd say 29 is as big as you go with a 2.5 tyre on full suss at least
  • + 6
 adding a few inches to a wheel is technology?
  • + 2
 I think 29ers will be the norm for all riding, excluding some specialist disciplines in a few years. I think a lot of the plus sizes (not true fat bikes but 650b+ etc) and 650b will largely be replaced by 29ers
  • + 3
 @multialxndr: Agreed...and that's the problem.
  • + 2
 @alonalgr: not really in to engineering then?
  • + 2
 @cmkneeland: tbh I think a lot of what created the cluster f*ck of random standard we currently have is the fact that 29er became a dirt/'not cool' phrase and people were trying to create standards that do similar this in terms of a bigger contact patches better/more forgiving ride characteristics etc without wanting to have to call it a 29er.
  • + 4
 @Mugen: Rear end braking or nut scrub - Anyone selling kevlar reinforced shorts yet?
  • + 3
 @multialxndr: I believe you're correct. 26" wasn't an engineering decision, it's just what early MTB builders had because that's what cruisers had. 29" came to be back when bikes were anything but sorted out. Trail bike builders were still trying to figure out how to make an non-shitty 4" travel bike that could go up and down. Nowadays everything else is reasonably well sorted, and wheel size is fully open for experimentation, we can finally figure out the single ideal size, or figure out for sure that there is no ideal size for everything. I saw no reason to get away from 26", but since we've already opened Pandora's box, game on.

29" makes sense for DH, yes big wheels corner like poop, but every year bikes get slacker, also hurting their cornering prowess. If you can make up for the lack of cornering agility with straight line speed, and maybe rolling speed in the rocky corners, it can work just fine. The downside is stand over, my 29" trailbike flat out wouldn't work for me at 6'1" without a dropper post, add another 3-4" of suspension travel and things are going to get weird, especially for shorter riders. Exciting times we live in, that's what I say.
  • + 1
 @Maverickdh00: That's what I currently run, but with fatter tyre on the back. I don't race though so it's just a 'for fun' set up. Can't wait to see how this race season pans out with different bike sizes.
  • + 3
 @jordanchaos: I'm a mechanical engineer. I think adding a few inches to a wheel and calling it technology is outright ridiculous.

When you buy a car do they call the wheel size they chose for the car "technology"?
  • + 2
 A bigger wheel isn't technology. Surely the technology is the evolved geometry and frame design along with advancement in tyre and wheel material which has enabled getting the most from bigger wheels. Still room to improve further though - which is exciting.
  • + 1
 @alonalgr: what kind of mechanical engineer thinks a car and a bike are remotely the same thing? Remind me not to hire you for any projects.

I hope to god you don't work for a motorsports team either. Poor bastards don't stand a chance. "It rains why change the tyre they are all the same colour"
  • + 1
 @tremeer023: exactly - short sighted to think it's just about wheel size. Just the geometry is a hassle.on a hardtail let alone a dh rig
  • + 1
 @jordanchaos: What is your education, you clever sir? Sounds like you did a PhD in quoting marketing bullshit.
  • + 1
 @alonalgr:
Settle down, no need for this sir shit. I'm not saying you are stupid. I'm not saying you are uneducated. I'm just saying bicycle engineering isn't your forte, but it is mine. You jumped on thread, had a pop and you've bought absolutely nothing to it. And in fact you are just going through the thread repeating yourself. We get it. You don't like big wheels. Personally I've spent the last few months on kinematics and FMEA for a 29" compatible frame. Sure felt like engineering what with all the numbers.
  • + 3
 Awesome work as always Pinkbike, sick sick coverage, fantastic photos, keep them coming... May the adults wheel size make the podium, only been waiting a decade to garner some correctness within my riding group. T2R
  • + 2
 so here begins the time of every second pinkbike article mentioning 29" wheels now....we get it your just trying to drum up interest for the next big "chuck last years bke in the bin cos now we have....." industry sales push.
  • + 6
 Well, 29" isn't slow.
  • + 3
 Does anyone know the internal width on the Enve's the Syndicate is running? Also which size and model of minions?
  • + 6
 It never was
  • + 3
 @kidtrailboss:

Listen to the interview with Greg's mechanic. I believe he says they are 32mm internal and they are running a 2.5 WT tire. At that moment they were on shorty's but that may change if it dries out.
  • + 2
 @kidtrailboss: I think they are DHR 2 and shorty WT, and 1 of the keys of the Santa Cruz Syndicate team over Trek or Specialized, Maxxis tyres .
  • + 4
 The top riders at the top of qualifying, no surprise there. The only facts that have developed from qualifying is that 29DH bikes don't suck. It is all speculation until tomorrow that they are fast. But who cares? All the top dogs are within 2 seconds. The racing is tight, the best of the best are healthy and ready to throw down. Can't wait for the action!!!
  • + 1
 @MonsterTruck: exactly this!
  • + 3
 Amazing photos as always!

Does anyone know if Gee the only one who has a Session 29er? Is Rachel on 27.5 or 29? What about Kade Edwards?
  • + 1
 Is gee on a 29?
Haven't seen a pick yet
  • + 1
 Santa Cruz looks to be the only "famous" brand that has its 29er ready to rock on the circuit, and we see it pays off!! Pretty sure all the other companies feel under pressure now, as they need to follow by having their own 29er, undoubtedly !!!
#29aintgay
  • + 2
 After reading the interview with Greg's mechanic it sounds like the 29er deal is mostly about how much better the big wheels fit Minnaar since he's such a big rider.

I wouldn't expect other brands to follow suite without their own 6'3" riders.
  • + 14
 I dont know, Everyone is asking racers and companies if they are going to make 29er DH bikes but in the EWS there isn't really that many people winning on 29ers. 29ers have been in enduro for a few years now but shit the last two out of three consecutive races have been won on aluminium 27.5 bikes.
  • + 14
 @WaterBear: Except Shaw and Vergier aren't exceptionally tall. At 1st and 3rd best in qualifying I'd say the 29" wheels show promise for most racers.
  • + 11
 Acceleration and maneuverability are much more important in Enduro. You can't plow through everything on a 6" travel bike with a single crown. 29" for downhill makes more sense as it's more about plowing and carrying speed.
  • + 7
 @tetonlarry: yup 29 is all about going straight when others need to choose the path, and if it is always down the acceleration is not a problem.
  • + 5
 @WaterBear: the height thing is a bit of a misnomer when people are talking about 29ers the benefits are still there for smaller riders and if you get the frame design correct
  • + 3
 @tetonlarry: a 29er will win MSA this year, i bet on that
  • + 5
 @brandaneisma: Remember Tracy Moseley. Dominated on a 29er in the EWS. Callaghan has a couple of wins on his Cube 29er.
  • + 1
 @WaterBear: How does a 29 inch wheel benefit a taller rider? His reach, bb height and HA are the same.
  • + 2
 @WaterBear: man im 5'5'' and love my 29er more than others bikes and obviously i'm faster on it too...
  • + 3
 @vroomvroompartystarter: Syndicate, being the only team to qualify more than one rider in the top ten, must be pretty stoked on preliminary results of their experiment thus far. This will certainly shake things up a bit. The clock doesn't lie.
  • + 3
 @sicmoto: taller riders have a higher center of gravity.
  • + 1
 @b-wicked: what kind of frame? Is it a hardtail? Can you fit a water bottle or piggy back shock?
  • + 1
 @tetonlarry: Can you elaborate? Also, they have to put this bike into production. UCI rules say it must be available within 9 months of being raced I believe.
  • + 1
 @WaterBear: How would wheels fit a rider?
  • + 7
 I'm not sure I have the technical knowledge to explain this but here goes: on a 29er your bottom bracket is lower than the axles compared to a bike with smaller wheels. Also known a bottom bracket drop on a geometry chart. This increases the % of your body weight that is below the axles. Makes a lot of sense for a tall rider who would have more weight above the axles than a short rider. Gives you more of an "in the bike feel" instead of an "on top of the bike feel". 29ers feel to tall people like smaller wheels feel to average height people. Their frames are bigger, why wouldn't their wheels be bigger too? They also have more leverage due to longer legs and arms to throw bigger wheels around. I've seen small people on 29ers really struggling to handle the bigger wheels. More like an "underneath the bike feel". Small full suspension frames need to compromise somewhere to cram those wheels where they don't belong.
  • + 2
 @multialxndr: sometimes, except that smaller Usually (not always) means less body weight to counteract the gyroscopic force of those big wheels and tires
  • + 3
 @tetonlarry: Oh piss off with your magic. Me likey big wheels. Me likey speed.
  • + 1
 @tetonlarry: Makes sense! Cheers
  • + 2
 @tetonlarry: It is Scott Genius 900sl frame and I have Monarch with piggy back on it, also it seems there is room for bottle but I use hydro pack anyway.
  • + 4
 Not one comment on that whip!!!!! Style in quaili's love it
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 What's the reason for team kits looking so different between individual riders on the same team? I could understand if they were their respective national champs or something. The Transition team all have that new baby blue stuff, but for example look at the Syndicate, all of their riders have massively different kit. Anyone have some insight as to why that is?
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 Syndicate has always had different kits for the riders, they've got different clothing sponsors.
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 It's not the bike or wheel size.... it's the rider........mostly
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 I spy a wider flanged, centerlock "dh" rear hub the Trek mechanic is working on. Something new (Saint or Bontrager?) or already in production?
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 Wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see a 29er tues. Not for Aaron but for Neko and Angel. Maybe a session too.
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 Gwin has on record and said he likes 29" wheels but that they were not moving in that direction.
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 So...Loris and Luca are fast...does anyone really believe that the 29'ers aren't making a difference though? 1, 3, and 6 seems improbable.
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 Luca and Loris are ranked 7 and 9 in the world, I believe. I think they would be up there either way.
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 @slayersxc17: yes, but they do it by consistently being in the top 20 not by always standing on the wood...they each had one podium last year.
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 So 3 ... of 29 in 10 places.. and the rest is?

And they say that lourdes is a rechnical track but all I see is wide corners, no tights switchbacks.. just straight lines with steep sections in it!
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 oh and yeah, fantastic pictures as always, a pleasure to watch!!
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 Rachel’s face says it all....
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 That shot of Tahnee says it all
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 XXIX is 29, should've been MMXVII
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 Great coverage PB????????????????????????
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 Oh wait, I see what you did there…
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 All the top teams have 29ers ready to go.
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 That trek frame must come in 29. And I'd be super surprised if commencal didn't wheel out a park bike because their dh bike is about to go 29
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 @jordanchaos: Interview on DIRT's website with two Trek designers say "there is first and there is perfect" them they go on to state that the 29" session is about to enter production, and that they didn't just build a few prototypes for the team like Santa Cruz.
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 @jordanchaos: Commencal wheeled out the 2017 Furious.
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 @AlexS1: yeah that's what I mean - they rolled out the furious (park bike) because they are just about to announce a 29" dh.
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 @jordanchaos: Thumbs up...
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 @jordanchaos: That day came. You're right. They looked badass. Almost moto like.

m.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/All-Things-Fort-William-World-Cup-2017,9704#post_30076
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 So which is it, Chaos or Kaos?
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 In theory it's chaos... in reality it's Kaos Wink
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 But it's actually just 'Dave'
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 @Waldon83: it's spelled Dave but pronounced "luxury yacht"
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 Luxury Yacht which 'actually means' . . . Chaos Just incredible
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 @Waldon83: ????????????????????
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 Yeah turns out pinkbike did not like my emoji's
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 29ers doing well. Here we go again.
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 Specialized's white kit looks yucky. Gwin looks full moto.
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 Vergier's kit looks sweet, understated red/black
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 Anyone know what's happened to Lapierre?Who rides for them now?
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 @merlinmarlee: Lapierre Gravity Republic became Specialized Gravity.
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 @sicmoto: yeah but a shame why lapierre have decided to quit downhill.
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 @merlinmarlee: didn't they go into e-bikes instead?
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 Brook stole my socks.
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 Bring on the 29" tacos
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