I'm betting on Odin and I don't care where he places; beautiful bike, I am buying the frame for my next build. I have an old Marin Attack Trail and this looks like the true evolution. love it!
Riding a HT at a race is kinda like picking a fight with the biggest guy at the bar..... no pressure because everyone expects you to get beat up, but if you happen to win you're a hero.
To be fair, he's running what looks to be pretty close to plus size tires, when with the right psi can deafen the blow almost just as well as a fully. Still crazy none the less!
I've made some questionable decisions in my time but racing the HT at NZ Enduro isn't one of them. Sick event if you guys ever get the chance to come out and race. Sven and Anka will make sure you're well looked after!
@SlinkySammy: Great call! I felt pretty beat up after the race I'm not going to lie but I bet everyone felt like heros after making it through the Nydia Bay stage!
I will be chearing for the guy with the hardtail! Don't forget that a Megavalance has been won on a belt driven single speed ht by one of the Nicolai riders.
@mikericci: They're Flite Carbon builds, based around Derby rims, 35mm beasts. They definitely look like plus tyres but they are. Check em out, they're supposedly the bees knees. wheelworks.co.nz/product
@justwan-naride: not to diminish Schneider's class victory on Saturday's Megavalanche Challenger, but the main event with the pro riders is on Sunday and the challenger on Saturday is mostly for amateur and hobby riders and Schneider is a Pro.
@MrEtnie: Didn't know that. Still, impressive choice of equipment. I'm a ht rider by choice, but not a racer. I ride ht's exclusively and although I love the feel of a rigid rear, the truth is that I get fatigued sooner than fellow riders on fs enduro/trail bikes. On a long, mainly downhill course like the mega I would probably be begging for mercy before the finish line.
@justwan-naride: Still an impressive feat. I would surely die trying Mega with my 40 years old knees on a ht. Sometimes I ride my four cross/dirt jump hard tail on my home trails and it's always huge fun, until I'm back home. Then I know me knees hate me!
@AZRyder: The front triangle and the upper linker looks the same, everything else is different (comparing a vpp, with a single pivot / gearbox bike is as sily as it sounds!)
@shredteds: Chainrings take way more rock strikes than derailleurs, and they get closer to the ground as suspension compresses, unlike derailleurs, hence why chainrings have bash guards derailleurs don't, it doesnt matter if its unsprung, or moving laterally when it's smashed to bits.
@robaussie99: I almost snap-responded "IT'S SHIELDED BY THE TIRE!!!!11!111!1!!", but I stopped and thought about it for a moment... you're absolutely right. Under compression, the tire won't be there. That argument only works out for hardtails, which is probably where I originally heard it. Now what? There's gotta be somewhere you can put it that's both sprung and out of the way.
@Bluefire: you are right but I'm pretty sure under compression the pulley will move up and back which helps a little. personally, it doesn't seem like a problem to me -- the chainring will likely take the impact before that pulley will but who knows... I hit my rear mech way more than I hit my chainring/BB area, but I suppose everyone is different depending on trails and riding style.
@inter71: A decent 29er doesn't lose out in technical terrain unless it is very slow uphills / ultra tight slow turns - Something you may see on your trail ride but not really at an enduro race.
The real 'issue', if you want to call it that is perception of fun or 'flickability' or however you describe it, where many 29ers lose out, a smaller wheeled bike can feel more fun but these guys are out to get the best times possible.
What backs this up is that Josh Lewis and Ratboy are on 29ers here, but use the smaller wheeled bikes when riding for 'fun'.
@Racer951: perhaps my experience isn't typical, but I definitely have issues on tight switchbacks on 29'ers, up or down. Check out the NZ Enduro day one highlights.
@inter71: What kind of 29ers? Nothing is ever equal and the bikes these guys are riding are all bang up to date with geometry that is making the 29er a very good all-round bike (Hightower and Yeti 5.5)
These guys may also be a lot better on the bike than most of us.....
@inter71: The Spark is a terrible example sat next to capable modern 29ers.
The results are the usual proof - wheel size is a personal preference and the best riders usually come out on top, regardless of wheel size, could 29ers offer an advantage on certain tracks though - absolutely, it will be interesting to see what is ridden and where by the guys that have a choice this year.
Almost all the Yeti riders on are the 5.5. Pretty interesting to me because Richie Rudies choice is the SB6...although Cody Kelley runs the 5.5 year around from what I understand.
Regardless of brand there are some really nice bikes!
I've never thrown a leg over the 6.. But after riding my 5.5 enough now.. I can't imagine the 6 being better on anything but the steepest and tightest courses. The 5.5 is a split personality.. Definitely pedals and rides like a trail bike. But it will still absolutely throw down when gravity does it's thing.
Gearbox bike on the leaderboard of an enduro race! How could that be? Are they not heavy as fck and more draggy than Liberace. And done without 29er wheels or an EWS rider, how could this possibly be?.......I know, I`ve got it, it came in an epiphany...someone check that bike for a hidden emotor
There are ways that you can play with the linkage settings and the shock length to get longer travel from the frame without messing with the geometry to much.
If you look at the CG video posted today you will see they are all on HT's that look to be either long shocked or are new frames/linkages. Something is dropping soon.
Okay, so kill me if you must, but how come all the pics of these dudes/dudesses and their bieks have their seat-pins slammed? Do they ever take a picture with their saddles jacked? Judging by the proportions, it looks to me like they'd be rockin' a serious Ryan Trebon-stylee saddle/bar stack if'n they ever popped the dropper . 'Dat Zerode, tho'.....
Not a single Spesh or Trek. I wish Trek would start advertising with PB again so I could see them. Seems a bit childish for PB to exclude them, they've only been the biggest advertisers at PB since I've joined. What gives RC?
@pegie looks like he's running a 650b with a 2.6 Minion to me. A prototype tire like that might not have all the hot-patches. Would be fun to try on a bike like that.
For some reason I'm not drawn to them aesthetically. I know they are good bikes and I even prefer a horizontal shock orientation to the vertical one but they just don't click with me.
Zerode and the Nomad on the other hand...
You can run the 200mm eye-to-eye SC bikes with a 57mm stroke instead of the 51mm (5010 and HT), but it's a warranty issue and SC has said it will void warranty coverage if you are caught with it that way. It may also cause some tire rub when it's fully compressed, but you can increase the travel some.
You are being neg propped by people that still running 3x8 and 26" wheels with no problems, or the ones that climb the Everest with their 1x9 drivetrain.
Only because fast riders on bikes designed for air springs absolutely smash the bottom out bumper on coil springs. When bikes start being designed to ramp up for coil springs (again) you will see more of them. I would love the option to flip a chip/use a different shock mount for a coil sprung rear end to ramp the way air shocks do.
On my rides, my rear shock changes temp by >50F, and as a result pressure changes by ~10%. If I lived somewhere with air temps that fluctuated >20F in a day I can't imagine how bad it would be.
@shredteds: That sounds like a really good idea - a changed mounting point or dogbone, or even a different linkage part, to adjust the leverage curve. I presume it's not possible as the linkage parts would be too complicated to mess with, and the other options wouldn't change the leverage curve? I'm no expert though (obviously....)!
The real 'issue', if you want to call it that is perception of fun or 'flickability' or however you describe it, where many 29ers lose out, a smaller wheeled bike can feel more fun but these guys are out to get the best times possible.
What backs this up is that Josh Lewis and Ratboy are on 29ers here, but use the smaller wheeled bikes when riding for 'fun'.
These guys may also be a lot better on the bike than most of us.....
Anyway, the proof is in the results. Day 1, top three all 650b.
The results are the usual proof - wheel size is a personal preference and the best riders usually come out on top, regardless of wheel size, could 29ers offer an advantage on certain tracks though - absolutely, it will be interesting to see what is ridden and where by the guys that have a choice this year.
Will be even more interesting to see how it does through the races.
'Dat Zerode, tho'.....
1. water bottle under the downtube ? hell why ?
2. Iago wearing fox kit but running rockshox suspension ?!
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On my rides, my rear shock changes temp by >50F, and as a result pressure changes by ~10%. If I lived somewhere with air temps that fluctuated >20F in a day I can't imagine how bad it would be.