Elite Finals Results from the Mont-Sainte-Anne DH World Cup 2023

Oct 7, 2023 at 9:51
by Ed Spratt  
Mont-Sainte-Anne never disappoints as the legendary venue brings the best racing we have seen this year.

Vali Höll closes out her season as the World Champion, World Cup Champion and the Rider with the Most Race Wins. After dominating the Elite Women's field Vali Höll secures another perfect weekend knocking Nina Hoffmann off the hot seat by 13 seconds. Nina Hoffmann had a tough final run with a crash and final drop tire blowout but she managed to hold on to the line to take 2nd in the race and the overall. Veronika Widmann ended the week in third place. A big crash from Marine Cabirou pushed her down to 9th and she will settle for third in the overall standings.

What a run from Jackson Goldstone as he destroys the competition leaving the elite men's field with a lot of work to do for next year. Jackson Goldstone delivered a historic run as he backed up a wild semi-finals win with another massive win finding a gap of 4.3 seconds to Ethan Craik. Jackson becomes the only elite male rider to win more than once this year. Loic Bruni finished the day in third and secured the 2023 overall title.

Check out the results below.



Results:


Elite Women


1st. Vali Höll: 4:40.133
2nd. Nina Hoffmann: 4:53.199
3rd. Veronika Widmann: 4:54.301
4th. Monika Hrastnik: 4:57.106
5th. Hattie Harnden: 5:00.164

Elite Men


1st. Jackson Goldstone: 3:57.836
2nd. Ethan Craik: 4:02.164
3rd. Loic Bruni: 4:04.594
4th. Bernard Kerr: 4:04.700
5th. Gaëtan Vige: 4:05.137




The Elite Women's Race as it Happened

Race Updates:

10:00 PDT: Phoebe Gale Starts the Elite Women's Finals
Phoebe Gale is the first rider on course in finals as she will be hunting for the race line as the wet weather has shaken things up today.

10:05 PDT: Phoebe Gale Crashes Through the Rocks at the Bottom
Phoebe Galegoes down in the always tricky rocks. Phoebe goes over the line with a time of 5:08.703.

10:09 PDT: Monika Hrastnik Takes the Lead by 11 Seconds
Monika Hrastnik steps onto the hot seat as she goes eight seconds quicker than her semi-final run.

10:10 PDT: Tahnee Seagrave was 10 Seconds Up Before a Crash Ended her Chances
The greasy rocks end another fast run as Tahnee Seagrave slides out.

10:14 PDT: Another Crash In the Rocks as Jenna Hastings Goes Down
Three of the four Elite Women so far have crashed in a similar spot as the rocks are lethal for finals today.

10:17 PDT: Mille Johnset Also Crashes in the Rocks
Mille Johnset gets slightly further through the section but she also falls victim to the tricky conditions.

10:21 PDT: Marine Cabirou Crahses at the End of the Lower Woods
Marine Cabirou was up by 13 seconds at split three but she crashed out in split four and will roll down the rest of the course.

10:25 PDT: Veronika Widmann Takes the Lead by 2.8 Seconds
Veronika Widmann completes the 2nd clean run as she goes over the line 2.8 seconds up on Monika Hrastnik.

10:29 PDT: Hattie Harnden Goes Over the Line 3rd
Hattie Harnden ends her run in third place and will definitely be in the top five as there are just two riders left.

10:31 PDT: Nina Hoffmann Crashes in the Rocks
Nina Hoffmann manages to not drop too much time in her crash as she only loses five seconds.

10:32 PDT: Nina Hoffmann Takes the Hot Seat by 1.1 Seconds
Despite a crash and a front tire explosion off the last drop Nina Hoffmann still takes the lead by one second.

10:37 PDT: Vali Höll Continues her Domination as She Wins by a Huge 13 Seconds
Vali Höll is truly on another level this weekend winning finals at MSA by over 13 seconds!





The Elite Men's Race as it Happened

Race Updates:

11:04 PDT: Dylan Levesque Sets the First Time of 4:23.235
Dylan Levesque is first down the hill but has a huge mistake in the rocks and goes outside the poles. After going back up and resetting his run he loses a lot of time.

11:06 PDT: Dante Silva is Another Rider Sent Off the Track
The conditions on track are incredibly difficult for finals as Dante Silva is the second rider to be taken off the main line and go outside the poles.

11:12 PDT: Matteo Iniguez is Wild Through the Rocks to Go Fastest
Matteo Iniguez rides the rocks like it's dry to go 4.8 seconds into the lead despite a flat tire for the final split.

11:14 PDT: Phil Atwill Takes the Hot Seat
Phil Atwill masters the tricky conditions to go 9.078 seconds into the lead.

11:15 PDT: Ronan Dunne Has a Huge Crash in Split 2
Ronan Dunne was three seconds up in the first split before being thrown over the bars.

11:24 PDT: Richie Rude Takes 2nd, 1.7 Back
Richie Rude has a great ride on the Yeti prototype to cross the line 1.7 back from Phil Atwill.

11:27 PDT: Oisin O'Callaghan is Back on Top
Oisin O'Callaghan has taken the hot seat just a week after his first elite World Cup win in Snowshoe.

11:30 PDT: Dylan Maples Goes 2nd After a Wild Run
Dylan Maples closes out his 2023 season with an amazing run and sits in 2nd place after 13 riders.

11:36 PDT: The Top 5 After 15 Riders are
1st. Oisin O'Callaghan: 4:07.484
2nd. Dylan Maples: 4:08.270
3rd. Phil Atwill: 4:09.341
4th. Davide Palazzari: 4:10.004
5th. Rémi Thirion: 4:10.902


11:43 PDT: Lucas Cruz Drops to 7th After a Flat Rear Tire
Lucas Cruz was 0.3 seconds ahead at split three before losing pressure in his rear tire and dropping down to 7th.

11:45 PDT: Andreas Kolb Goes Fastest by 2.1 Seconds!
Andreas Kolb flies into the hot seat as he dethrones last week's winner by just over two seconds.

11:49 PDT: There's a New Leader as Luca Shaw Pulls Ahead by 0.097 Seconds
Andreas Kolb's time doesn't last long as Luca Shaw pushes into the top spot after a great final split.

11:59 PDT: Loris Vergier Goes Across the Line in 3rd
Loris Vergier sits 0.7 seconds back in 3rd with nine more riders at the top. Currently, Loris will pick up 180 points putting him 120 ahead of Loic Bruni. If Loris' position doesn't change then Loic needs to finish in 6th to pass him in points.

12:01 PDT: A Huge Crash for Finn Iles
Finn Iles was over four seconds in the lead before a crash takes him out of contention for the overall.

12:06 PDT: Gaëtan Vige Goes Fastest
With Gaëtan Vige now leading Loris Vergier drops to fourth meaning Loic Bruni now needs at least a 7th place to pass him in the overall.

12:09 PDT: It's Now Bernard Kerr Who Takes the Lead
Bernard Kerr just pulls ahead to take the hot seat by 0.4 seconds. Loris Vergier drops down to fifth meaning Loic Bruni will want 9th place or better to pass him in the overall.

12:12 PDT: A Flat Tire for Danny Hart
Danny Hart ends his season with a disappointing run after getting a flat tire.

12:14 PDT: With 5 Rider Left the Top 5 are
1st. Bernard Kerr: 4:04.700
2nd. Gaëtan Vige: 4:05.137
3rd. Luca Shaw: 4:05.220
4th. Andreas Kolb: 4:05.317
5th. Loris Vergier: 4:05.926


12:18 PDT: Troy Brosnan Goes 5th, 0.699 Back
It's more bad news for Loris Vergier as with Troy pulling just ahead he will now lead Loic Bruni by only 65 points. Loic will want to place 13th or better to take the overall.

12:21 PDT: It Looks Like Dakotah Norton Has Crashed
Dakotah Norton was up by 0.6 seconds at the first split but lost over three seconds in split two.

12:23 PDT: Dakotah Norton Comes Back from a Crash to Take 3rd
Despite a crash at the top of the course Dakotah is able to pull back time and fall just 0.492 seconds back from Bernard Kerr. This means Loris drops more overall points and Loic only needs to finish 20th or higher to take back the overall points lead.

12:26 PDT: Loic Bruni Just Needs to Finish 8th or Better to Win the Overall
Loic Bruni is up at split three but he just needs to finish in the top eight to stop any chance of losing the overall.

12:28 PDT: Loic Bruni Takes the Lead & Wins the 2023 Overall Title
Loic Bruni does all he needs to do to shut out any chance of losing the overall title. What a relief we won't need to bring the calculators out.

12:33 PDT: Ethan Craik is Wild as he Finds 2 Seconds Through the Rocks to Go Fastest
Ethan Craik lays down an amazing run to go fastest by 2.43 seconds! Only Jackson Goldstone can stop there from being eight winners in eight races.

12:37 PDT: Jackson Goldstone Wins by a Massive 4 Seconds
Jackson Goldstone puts together a masterclass of how to ride Mont-Sainte-Anne as he wins his home World Cup and becomes the only elite male rider to win two races this year.


Full Results:


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271 Comments
  • 185 2
 JACKSON YOU LEGENDDD!!!!!!!
  • 165 15
 What a race. This has been one of the most exciting World Cup DH seasons, ever. Forget whining about the commentary, these riders are putting on one hell of a show. Congrats Jackson!
  • 6 0
 LET'S GOOOO!!!!
  • 16 2
 YEAAH!!! The supersonic shrimp has done it. SOOOOOO happy for him AND for Canada. WELL DONE!!! What a race! What a season!!! BRAVO!!!
  • 7 1
 @mikekazimer: That was ridiculous. Take my money!
  • 23 19
 @mikekazimer: if it wasnt for gwinn both commentors stink.
  • 25 3
 And he does it by having the most fun! Loic may have won on points but Jackson won our hearts this season. He had the fastest splits in steeps and tech all year and sent the Stevie Smith drop properly en route to this massive win!!
  • 12 9
 Benoit wins in Les Gets and the crowd loses it.

MSA: hold my beer.
  • 44 6
 @cpscotti: Ha! The Canucks were nowhere near, buddy.
  • 9 0
 @cpscotti: they must have been drinking light beer then.
  • 30 0
 @mikekazimer: and the video coverage today was honestly awesome. Watching Jackson pop through the entire course with the drone footage was pretty cool.
  • 4 11
flag talaskinos (Oct 7, 2023 at 16:23) (Below Threshold)
 I havent seen dh wc this year, but rob warners commentaries are just stuck in my head.
  • 3 0
 @mikekazimer: agreed, the racing itself has been incredible.
  • 10 3
 @mikekazimer: I mean, we can do both I think? It was an incredible season of racing and also the commentary was terrible Big Grin

Also, I'm pretty stoked about the coming years of DH - so many younger riders bursting onto the scene to join the established regulars. The next few years are going to be awesome.
  • 14 1
 @mikekazimer: I genuinely feel bad for anyone who didn’t cough up $50 to watch this incredible season. Well worth the money.
  • 2 0
 @succulentsausage: Time your 1-month subscription and cancellation system right and you'll pay half that.
  • 122 13
 "Where did Vali make up those 10 Seconds????"
It's the final round and the commentary booth still did not understand how the timing works Smile
  • 43 4
 You'd think they'd learn something over all these races.... I still dont understand how you can be so bad at a job and keep it....
  • 3 0
 funny, isn't it?
  • 5 0
 Farcical really
  • 4 0
 yeah wtf
  • 7 0
 Was a few seconds faster than Hoffman in the beginning sections. Hoffman fell on the rocks Vali not
  • 67 0
 Can PLEASE somebody explain to GC and Rick how timing works!
That’s seriously an embarrassment!
„She did something special“. Yeah. She didn’t crash in the rockgarden … man ….
  • 57 2
 and, while you’re at it. Could you please explain the camera men that nobody wants to see a closeup of tires in the most technical section of the track
  • 2 0
 At the gym
  • 3 4
 I think she paid someone
  • 3 2
 @qbensis: their most laughable commentary moment of the season, saved for the last race.
But as I only watched when I could via Tiz Cycling, someone please share if there were worse gaffes…
  • 4 0
 I actually LOLed when they said this. Laughable commentary.
  • 3 1
 @qbensis: Most important part of the track and awful camera work.
  • 5 0
 @snomaster: actually they had theses „don’t understand that timing is measured against the current leader“ moments regularly, and they repeated it in men’s final after luca‘s run … i hoped they would get it over the season. But no.

To me, it’s one thing if you like the style of commentary of one person more than somebody others style, but lack of understand of basic dependencies just freaks me out!
  • 6 0
 @qbensis: this!! You have a great TV zoom camera and choose to show... The surface of some rocks. Just let it be a wide panning shot, we can zoom in on the tire tread afterwards if we really would want to see each dirt particle. (no I don't)
  • 2 0
 Ric saying a rider was "in touch" when they were green was another high point.
  • 2 6
flag pmhobson (Oct 8, 2023 at 11:21) (Below Threshold)
 FWIW, people had this same complaint about the Redbull team their final year of broadcast.
  • 5 0
 @pmhobson: No. They did not.
  • 2 3
 @FredFreeRideGang: they did! I remember reading them on this very website.
  • 3 0
 @pmhobson: It's a bit like saying people thought Warner was a bad commentator. I saw those comments too, but they were hardly the general consensus.
  • 2 3
 @commental: that’s not the point I’m trying to make. The point I’m trying to make is that 1) it is all *all* roses and sunshine with the RB team 2) people give Rick and Cedric unending shit for things they happily overlooked with Rob because they liked him (his passion and energy).

If you don’t like the new team, that’s 100% understandable.
  • 5 1
 @pmhobson: Maybe people were happier to overlook things they weren't being charged for.
  • 1 2
 @commental: I get that. But relying on hugely profitable beverage companies to operate broadcast coverage at a tremendous loss so they write it off as “marketing expenses” on their balance sheet might not actually be a sustainable way to operate the series.

The Redbull years were great. But they had their hiccups, complaints about track coverage, etc. Literally nothing lasts forever. Discovery has 9 more years. Buckle up.
  • 1 0
 @pmhobson: Considering RB also bid for the rights maybe they did think it was sustainable. My understanding is that Discovery have the rights until 2030, so seven more years by my count.
  • 109 1
 I wish Gwin would tell Rik to stfu and stop interupting him.
  • 20 0
 he's too polite
  • 48 0
 Agreed, they're cutting off the one person who should be talking the most. So annoying. How many times did cedric fill valuable mic time with "OYoyoy! Wowowowow!" ?
  • 26 1
 @konadan:
my 2 cents:
CG talks a lot but doesn't say much
Gwin isn't the typical talker but knows exactly what he's talking about and yes, they should let him talk more.
  • 11 0
 @konadan: I thought for a moment Borat had jumoed into the booth.
  • 13 0
 @vhdh666: 100% It seems Rik is the head, but talks a load of shit, Gracia just full of buzz words. At least let one of the greatest racers ever, have a bit more of a say.
  • 13 0
 @konadan: Look at the suspensions!
  • 1 1
 @davechopoptions: time's are tumbling in 2023 uci mountain bike mens downhill elite finale Mont saint anne Canada
  • 5 1
 At this point I've just come to the conclusion that Ric is addicted to the sound of his own voice.
  • 2 0
 @daweil: You forgot World Cup and Quebec. For Ric the more words, the better. He should search employment in auctioning business...
  • 2 0
 @FredFreeRideGang: He's the L. Ron Hubbard of commentating.
  • 8 0
 As a live technician I can add that the announcers are paired one is the "PXP" and the other is known as "Colour".
One does amazing play by play in real time and when they are lost for words the colour commentator takes over and adds the missing facts and other minutiae we find interesting.
This team has no idea of what their job is the pair needs to go asap. There was only LATE comments and other crap no one can understand like "cloth tyres". Cedric was one of my fav people but I now hate the sound of his voice. The Irish guy needs to STFU he should be announcing XC or badminton.
This is almost my breaking point but I will add that Gwin saved the day.
  • 92 0
 YESSSSSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 8 5
 Congrats daddy!!
  • 7 2
 Congratulations,you must be the proudest dad alive. Enjoy!
  • 30 0
 @nozes: thanks but I’m his uncle
  • 3 0
 @nozes: he’s told us before, he’s an uncle
  • 6 0
 @snomaster: I'd assumed it was his sister.
  • 1 0
 @snomaster: Oh, repent those that didn't catch that, repent! Razz
  • 90 19
 Bernard Kerr when he hears there's teenagers at the bottom
  • 25 0
 Oof
  • 4 38
flag on-the-move (Oct 7, 2023 at 13:37) (Below Threshold)
 Lmao did rick say that? What a jealous bum, he might get some chicks too if he contributed anything to the sport.
  • 3 0
 what?
  • 18 2
 @lloydfletch: he's now dating Jenna Hastings, left his other partner for some one much younger
  • 4 1
 LMAO
  • 2 4
 @KUBBY: also lost the gwagon so an interesting choice for Mr "Leonardo DiCaprio" there
  • 14 2
 @Count-Huckula: source?
Can you say 'grooming'?
  • 41 5
 @spaceofades: 100% grooming. She was 17 when he hired her to his team, he was 30. He pre-ordered that shit.
  • 31 2
 Regardless of the age difference, the golden rule has been broken :
Don't Screw the Crew.
  • 5 0
 @jojoku: Just sitting here wondering if PB has a legal team.
  • 25 0
 Yeah, a thirteen year age gap isn't automatically terrible. However, I'd say a thirteen year age gap when dating someone still in their teens is questionable at best. And it definitely doesn't help with the dynamic when you're their boss and somewhat responsible for building their career.
  • 28 0
 If this is true, this is a bad look for Pivot Factory Racing. It definitely hurts any chance of other women joining the team. Would you let your daughter join a team where the coach is dating one of the players?
  • 3 0
 @markokane Hahaha underrated comment
  • 11 0
 I watch the LSD vlogs and he's raaapid, but it is a bit suspect dating someone you met when they were underage and you're essentially in control of her career. He can actively advertise her more and push her career or one day could decide as the team manager she's no longer a good fit for the team. Bit of an odd power dynamic there.
  • 60 2
 Ric needs to stop interrupting when Aaron explains a line.
  • 34 2
 It got to a point where Aaron was the lead commentator, he seemed a little embarrassed by the other two Ric is just there to remind people that Mont St Anne is in Quebec....which is in Canada and Cedric is there to shout FaAAsT, QUIck, WOoOOw.
  • 1 3
 @watchmen: I think isnt fair now still so much hate... they all improved a lot... Cedric gives insights and nuances on the large french army of riders plus he makes point on presictions... Ric es the polite voice with excitement while cedric tries to add kind of excited old dog Rob warner energy... Aroon is just the Bible of DH racing... but maybe a litle bit too calm... but into conjunction with the other two it proved to do a good job at the level it was more or less which wasn t easy...
  • 46 0
 Damn,Finn was really going for it.
  • 13 0
 only one who had a shot at sniffing Jackson's time. Would've loved to see him finish it.
  • 2 0
 I wanna see the race analysis for this, curious how he stacked up on those first 3-4 splits
  • 2 0
 To my eye, and really according to the clock, not the same pace, it was competitive with Craik's run though.
  • 1 0
 @Planetx888: hard to say. Race analysis shows him fastest in first split but Jackson beat him by a larger margin the next split. He was looking good… we’ll never know
  • 3 0
 The Canadians wanted this win bad
  • 43 0
 MASSIVE CRAIK!!!!
  • 39 0
 Fair play to Nina Hoffmann! She was like the terminator coming down that run, nothing was stopping her getting to the finish line haha
  • 27 0
 A crash and then blowing out the front tire on the final jump… she deserved that rest on the finish line LOL
  • 1 0
 she's a beast, but TBH Vali is more precise and riding the bike more precisely
  • 12 0
 @vhdh666: precisely
  • 5 0
 She was faster than a lot of the men through the speed trap. Which on one hand is impressive, on the other it shows how meaningless the speed trap is at most races, despite them screaming about it at every opportunity.
  • 5 0
 Nina really is a beast. I was an immediate fan when I saw her finish a WC run in Andorra in her sock after losing a shoe, hell of a tough rider. Its so good to see her really evolve into one of the top riders now that she has full factory support!
  • 1 0
 @IsaacWislon82: wasn't that Nina?
  • 2 0
 @FredFreeRideGang: it was Nina
  • 39 0
 Peaty in tears during the interview - what a moment
  • 6 0
 Definitely!!! He made me cry as well. What a race!
  • 30 0
 What a run that must have been by Jackson. Was only following the live timing but to win by 5 seconds and more than 7 on Bruni (who to be fair only needed to podium) is nuts.

2 wins in first season with the big boys. Only narrowly missing out on the overall. Seriously impressive!
  • 40 0
 An appendix and flat tire away from the overall in his first year. One of the all times in the making.
  • 4 3
 @sspiff: OMG the appendix in the middle of it all. Future GOAT!
  • 3 1
 He looked like he was cruising. Other riders who've put up margins like that at MSA looked like they were pushing it right to the limit but the way Jackson rode looked so chill and in control like he had a few seconds more in him he didn't need.
  • 3 0
 6 guys from Bruni to Brosnan within one second. And then two big jumps. Amazing.
  • 1 0
 @sspiff: and one corner in Lenzerheide.
  • 6 0
 A really incredible run imo, he took unique lines/gaps/risks and pulled it off while riding at a visibly ludicrous pace. Stoked for him and Canada.
  • 3 0
 @on-the-move: It WAS a very tight race until Craik and Goldstone dropped... I definitely think this run will be remembered as one of the season defining runs like Amaury's 2019 Les Gets run
  • 5 0
 An amazing run. Unreal sequences . He was just flying by features like they were nothing, right now he's on another level.

I wonder which runs have the biggest margin to second place in the last ten years?
  • 1 0
 @danielteleman: that idea would make a fantastic article... IMO it would also be cool to see what winning runs where the most standard deviations away from 2nd
  • 31 0
 Tell me more about sealant!
  • 8 0
 And there are spokes, and even rims...
  • 4 0
 And tire sealant squirting into faces
  • 7 0
 The ROUND things are TIRES. Good to know.
  • 5 0
 The segment they did about tear offs was good too, lol
  • 2 0
 LOL
  • 3 2
 @silvanoe: she knows alllll about that!
  • 13 0
 Alright but just to warn you this is going to be a highly technical explanation, probably only .01% of the super nerds in the audience will even be able to follow this as it's essentially a lecture on physics first principles.

Tire hit rock go psshhh then fwopfwopfwop
  • 4 0
 Take a shot every time they mention tear/roll-offs.
  • 1 0
 @GorgeousBeauGaston: Haaaahaahhaha! That made me cry a little Big Grin
  • 40 12
 THE PEOPLE WANT ROB WARNER
  • 45 0
 I just want someone who actually knows what to do. Aaron Gwin isnt even a media dude and hes doing much better as actually has rider knowledge.
  • 4 3
 The people want ai commentators.
~chatgtp
  • 1 0
 gpt ding it
  • 15 1
 @HeatedRotor: I want to hear the crowd and atmosphere at the end, and I want the commentary to get excited about Jordan, Kolb, Jackson, Hatton, Benoit and Oisin winning their first world cups and then Jackson at MSA finishing the epic year. Come on, there is no excitement, these guys don't know how to work a crowd and escalate energy. As soon as the race finishes it's like post nut regret sets in a the mood is just dead. You have to wait for Eddie and Moi Moi's videos to come out to see the excitement at the finish line.
  • 25 28
 I honestly can't believe people are still whining about this. The last few races have all been amazing. The coverage was at least as good as it ever was on Red Bull, and today it was a lot better. The commentary is fine and you can just turn it off if you hate it so much I think the thing we've learned is that a number of Pinkbike commenters mostly watched the races for the commentary and had very little interest in the actual racing
  • 16 2
 @elbandido77: i tend to disagree.
Coverage and commentary got better over the course of the season. Agreed with that.
Shitty camera angles, sleepy cameramen and questionable commentary moments have happened over the last seasons too. Agreed.

But, to me, there are at least two major differences:
A) Ric and GC doing basic errors that should not happen in a professional commentary (e.g. lack of understanding that timing always refers to the current leader) and
B) it was free before this year! As i have to pay for the same product that was free for years and years, i don’t want it to be as good as before. That doesn’t cut it. It needs to be significantly better! And it isn’t.
It’s the only sports coverage I’ve ever payed for in my whole life. And I’ve seen much better ones for free (also mountainbiking from RB, if you ask me. But yes, I’m biased, and not only because of rob)
That’s the main two reasons why I’m not done complaining.
  • 1 0
 @on-the-move: they do did it for XC boys... seems DH is less for them...
  • 26 1
 Dylan Maples = the american Daprela. Such a pleasure to watch him!!!
  • 19 1
 Wow! what a race!!

I just want to point out that the BC racers don't "really" have a home track advantage at MSA. It's actually closer to Dublin than Squamish and Quebec City is VERY French.

While Canadians have done very well here over the decades; Shandro, Smith....It isn't the same advantage riders who live on a World Cup site have. And MSA is entirely different to west coast tracks like Whistler.
  • 6 0
 Hopefully whistler ends up hosting a race on the new track in future years…
  • 4 0
 Its kinda true, just don't let the French hear you say that! haha
  • 20 0
 What did she do?? A: She didn't hit the tree
  • 16 1
 Nooo, Finn! That left looks absolutely treacherous, not too surprising that the bike slid with how hard he was pushing. Up to you, Jackson!
  • 2 0
 F*ck yeah!
  • 8 0
 Jackson's like: "hold my root beer".
  • 15 0
 What the Canadian f*ck!

More races in the Americas please. So drunk and buzzing right now. Holy shit. Jacko is the new alien! How will I sleep?
  • 18 0
 Yes, we need one in British Columbia, and one in South America.
  • 24 12
 WORST ANNOUNCING........EVER. I do not understand the unusual comedic comments either they are in French or some kind of Eastender speak. Aaron Gwin might as well do all the commentary. ....... and we pay cash money for this crap.
  • 1 1
 preach
  • 1 1
 @likeittacky: 1=cloth tyre 2=chikagne
  • 1 0
 weird
  • 16 1
 This is fucking sick racing!
  • 14 0
 Yooo I am so f*cking happy for Ethan ❤️ he truly deserves it
  • 14 2
 really loving the two dudes in black trying to abduce Goldstone as soon as he sets foot off the bike and fighting team mates, way to go uci, thumbs up
  • 4 0
 Noticed this as well! Let the guy celebrate with his teammates and fans. Seemed a bit extreme how fast the grabbed him and forcible pulled him away.
  • 10 0
 My god, how the hell could anyone not enjoy watching that racing!? Absolutely insane and so good that you're happy to see anyone win it!

Those security guards at the end with Jackson were grim though, absolute banter vacuums.
  • 2 0
 Exactly! Totally! And, yeah, compare that to the French security in France and it's...interesting.
  • 13 2
 What a f***cking RACE!!!!! The only negative thing is not having Rob Warner absolutely lose his mind with Jackson's run as he did last year with Finn's.
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 Compared to yesterday, I really enjoy the broadcast today, I mean commentary is far of Warner but it is better than than the rest of the season
  • 10 2
 This is the only sport where I cheer for every one to go faster, but I sure wanted Kerr to win.
  • 8 0
 Jackson “golden stones” has done an absolute blinder, home country and epic scenes. Now drink
  • 7 1
 Will someone tell the goddamn camera man as they enter the rock garden to zoom out a bit!? Most exciting bit of track and you can’t see shit.
  • 4 0
 The more I watch the more I realise that the iconic winning runs are iconic because of the whole 'package' perfectly aligning, coming together and that's why these presenters are going to always water down /ruin what could be iconic events. I mean Danny Harts Word Champions wouldn't just be the same if Rob and Pagey hadn't been commenting! Imagine that run with these two presenters - not including Gwin in thisSmile
  • 7 0
 Who has that random link to the stream?
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 @rms195: thanks man
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 @rms195: bless you!
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 Whoever puts up this stream thank you so much you made my day
  • 9 2
 Wow. Jacko totally has the potential to be by far the GOAT.
  • 5 1
 Hard to predict that now, when there are so many dads have their young kids shredding hard all around the globe these days already, and their opportunities are rolled out like a red carpet for them to walk down. It's unbelievable; the world of motocross and Mtb have been flipped upside down this year with Young talent! Can only imagine the future holds!
ASA Vermette is one to watch now.
  • 10 3
 @likeittacky: Don't forget the moms who are showing their kids how to shred!
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flag likeittacky (Oct 7, 2023 at 22:32) (Below Threshold)
 @Skooks: This is a mans world were talking.
  • 4 1
 @likeittacky: *was a mans world, things are changing!
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 @IsaacWislon82: WE here were talking about the mens category and the probability of JG eventually becoming the GOAT. People always trying to contort what the discussion is about or on!

The woman have been charging long before you were even born basically, so nothing new. It's always gotta be like the younger crowd invented it or like it's never been done before, hahaha....,and several of them woman have earned woman's GOAT status; and IMHO were shredding harder with more style on shit bikes, than the current woman, at least in DH or every bit as well as the top gals.

(ACC, Giove, Ravanel, Moseley just to mention a few legends!
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 @likeittacky: I think you're misunderstanding this. Everyone knows we are talking about the mens category, where its totally believable that a shredder mom gets her son into mtb, the exact same way so many dads have gotten their daughters into mtb...
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 @IsaacWislon82: So You Go Mom tup .... you happy now? LMAO
  • 5 0
 F'n eh, Awesome to see Shaw put down a good clean run! Finn, you're breakin my heart.
  • 7 0
 Yes BK!
  • 2 0
 PB should do an analysis of the season where they rate how much the top riders were off from the perfect finals run, for the whole season. Just to see who was consistently fastest. Maybe with the worst race removed to account for one DNS or DNF.
  • 2 0
 One of the funnest seasons as a spectator. 7 different winners. And a couple surprise winners, including the brilliant World Champ run Mr. Hatton. But man, I turned on the live feed during Brunis race run and thought it was a recap of his run. Zero energy, no excitement, with Gwinn(whom I thoroughly enjoyed up to today), was completely monotone. At least the racing more than made up for it.
  • 6 1
 Someone tell Discovery we can't see anything in potato drone footy from 500 feet.
  • 4 0
 Is that camera on a drone or on a cable? If it’s a drone they seriously improved the quality!
  • 3 0
 Damn, that was some good racing. Crazy how place 3-9 are within one second, but then Ethan and Jackson both somehow manage to find an extra level above that.
  • 2 1
 I personally found that the commentary and coverage genuinely got better throughout the season! Maybe I just got used to it, but I found it way more watchable by the end. And what an absolutely incredible season! Jackson, Jordan, Oisin, Andy, Benoit, so many first time winners! I’m so stoked for the years to come!
  • 5 0
 DAAAAAAANG, VALI
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 Yeaaaaahhhh Jackson!
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 Jackson vs Jordan: Decided.

Congrats to both riders for an extremely impressive first season in Elites. With more amazing riders coming up the pipeline the next few years will see a lot of close battles.
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 Where was Jordan?
  • 4 0
 @jimmythehat: On the wrong team I think.
  • 1 1
 @on-the-move: no I mean he qualified 12th but wasn’t a DNS??
  • 2 0
 So what are the true rankings? Who had crunched the numbers? You know like if the UCI used the same scoring system all season. Picked one and stuck with it
  • 3 0
 wouldn't have changed anything. loic got 30 points more than jackson in qualies. Jackson got 30 more than Loic in the semis
  • 8 1
 They did pick one system. No points in qualifications has been a thing for years, and they included semis this year, before the first race of the year. It's not a new thing.
  • 1 1
 @handynzl: so want was the awarded semi points today then?
  • 5 1
 Cedric talks some shit mind...
  • 2 2
 So stoked to have a Canadian win in Canada a second year in a row. Sick race, such a gnarly and competitive season - love to see it. I know we like to bitch about discovery, but this has been a great season and the production, especially the increased track footage, largely due to drones, has been great. Also I know we all miss Rob Warner, but I enjoyed the commentary over the last few races.
  • 1 0
 Tech sidenote: both the men’s World Champs and World Cup overall were won on lugged, carbon tubed designs. Anything in this, or would Loic win anyway, and Charlie has the run of his life?
  • 1 1
 For everyone shitting on the commentary. It has gotten better throughout the season. English Cedric’s first language, and he should get better with time. Ric is eh. I agree the both is not as good as Rob Warner’s, but he developed his craft over years. Give the new boys a chance eh?

On a side note. Things to learn from this year.
1. Semifinals is dumb. I stopped watching after the first week.
2. Free coverage of the juniors is great to have. In the past you only saw results. Much appreciated. Hope it continues.
3. why isn’t there more elite women in finals their racing is just as enjoyable to watch, and to to the smaller overall field of female rides. I am more invested in their story.
4. Allow the original 60 men to qualify, but only show screen time for the top 20-30 riders. That way cinderella runs can still happen, but the top boys still earn their proper living. ( yes I know this is basically how redbull did it)
5. Riders seem to want the World Cup to be a World Cup. Try to get venues in Asia, Africa, Australia, and South America.
Yes travel would be more expensive, but each one would definitely feel different and exotic like a World Cup should.
That’s enough of me spewing internet nonsense today.
  • 3 4
 Live and FREE on Eurosport 2 for anyone that has that.... Don't know why they didn't run it on Eurosport all year...PPV was only going to attract a dedicated few especially as it was previously free. Putting it free on Eurosport seems like a no-brainer to me..more MTB fans watching, more casual sports viewers watching and build on it from there
  • 4 0
 "Free on Eurosport 2" is somewhat contradictory, we for example have no such thing as free Eurosport up here. This is actually one of my main gripes with this current PPV model, since the ways to watch and pricing are somewhat different country to country, as the products Discovery offers and what services and broadcast channels they're tied up with in different market areas vary so much.
  • 2 0
 Yeah but giving it out free wont make money and that whats its all about.
Even if viewing figures are down, we’ll probably never see the true figures, most of them will have paid to watch.
  • 2 0
 The only reason it’s on Eurosport now is because it doesn’t clash with other events that Eurosport deems more important
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 Eurosport isn't free in the UK.
  • 3 0
 Since when is Eurosport free?
  • 4 0
 Come on Jackson!
  • 6 5
 After watching the semi’s and the woman’s final kind of lost interest in the mens and only half watching it.

Dont think this semi business is good for viewers or riders.
  • 7 1
 Then you missed one of the greatest run of all time, clinical
  • 2 4
 @jimmythehat: did I say I wasn’t watching it?
  • 5 1
 @cypher74: you missed half* of one of the greatest runs of all time
  • 3 0
 Nice to hear RIC say “now” instead of “then”!
  • 3 0
 HOW DID HE DO THAT TWICE?!
  • 3 0
 Damn Jackson!! What a run!
  • 4 0
 Masterclass.
  • 3 0
 Watching Canadians win at MSA is just the best!
  • 7 5
 Just saw the results. What happened to Kerr? Minor mistake?
  • 9 0
 ? He came forth and was in the hot seat for longer than most.
  • 2 0
 Bwah!!!
  • 1 1
 @cypher74: Yeah I think that's his best ever race.
  • 3 0
 @on-the-move: nope he was second in snowshoe last year.
  • 1 0
 Did Laurie Greenland race? I know he was 52nd or whatnot in Semis but I thought he'd race being protected?
  • 1 0
 He wasn't protected
  • 1 0
 @commental: Ahh, I need to learn how the protection system works this year. Probably a bit late lol

Thanks!
  • 3 3
 I am slightly confused, is there no commentary on the women’s finals? Not that I’m complaining…
  • 3 0
 You probably have it set to ambient audio. It can default to that
  • 1 0
 If you're watching it on the app there's the option to have commentary or just ambient. Sounds like you might just have ambient.
  • 1 0
 @bgoldstone: weird, I’ve never changed anything on the app and have watched all the races. I thought something was off lol.

Thanks!
  • 24 0
 @bgoldstone: Shout out to Jacksons uncle for being the most helpful person in the comments all season too.
  • 1 0
 Not a single rider has reached the finish line yet.
  • 11 10
 I want everyone after BK to crash, but not get hurt Big Grin
  • 10 0
 He was so broken when Loic went faster.
  • 2 0
 Oh man - wow :-))
  • 1 0
 Even more massive Jack!!!
  • 2 0
 Oh shit, Jackson slayed.
  • 1 0
 Goldstone has the magic dust all weekend….it was his alone to lose!
  • 1 0
 Gold by name, gold by nature. The lad smashed it - top ride.
  • 1 0
 Has any male won two races in their first year elite before?
  • 1 1
 Tahnee did not go back around the tape.
  • 1 2
 does anyone know where I can watch this Wink ?
  • 4 1
 @FoxxxyLady: now this is the kind of stuff that I don't pay Outside + for
  • 1 0
 @browner: been blocked
  • 2 1
 GCN+

I can loan you 40 bucks for a
Membership. What’s your Venmo bro?
  • 1 1
 Ahh what a race
  • 3 4
 I imagine Jackson may have won the overall if he didn't miss some races.
  • 2 0
 But he didn't miss any.
  • 3 0
 Or maybe if they gave points for the semis.
  • 1 0
 @rarerider: I didn't really keep up so i was incorrect.? Than his recovery to full gas was a setback i'm assuming .
  • 2 0
 @Fill-Freakin: wouldn't have mattered
  • 1 0
 I wonder how many times he's mentally replayed that crash in the final corner at Leogang?
  • 1 1
 @commental: that was last season
  • 3 0
 @bgoldstone: Wasn't a crash this year but he slid out a bit on the final corner in Leogang and lost enough time that it probably/maybe cost him the win
  • 1 0
 @colinb191: Yep, that's what I was talking about.
  • 1 4
 What is up with the start list order? Bruni qualified first but does not start last in the finals?
  • 4 0
 Looks like starts are ordered by semifinal results
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