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Loana Lecomte Parts Ways with Massi

Jan 10, 2022 at 2:32
by Ed Spratt  
There was brief moment were Loana seemed to be struggling in the deteriorating conditions but bounced back in a huge way in the later laps.

Massi has revealed that the 2021 overall XC World Cup winner Loana Lecomte will be leaving the team after four years.

After her incredibly successful and historic first full year racing in the Elite category, Loana Lecomte is parting ways with Massi for the 2022 season. At the end of 2020, Loana extended her contract with Massi for another year ahead of the Olympic Games in Tokyo.

bigquotesThank you, Lolo! We have made history winning the Elite World Cup with 4 consecutive races victories! We have enjoyed wonderful years full of challenges achieved. We wish you all the best in your future goals! Massi

We don't know where Loana Lecomte is going to end up just yet, but we will keep you updated when we know more.


138 Comments

  • 61 2
 That's massi news!
  • 24 1
 What a horrible pun…take my upvote Big Grin
  • 3 0
 @lejake: resistance is freudal; you will be massimilated
  • 1 1
 No, Loana is still with Massi and will stay with the team.
  • 4 0
 @Ryanrobinson1984: This did not age well.
  • 1 0
 @mi-bike: how dare you, sir.
  • 12 0
 For sure she targets top level bikes, support and salary but I don't see her moving to an US team.
Most of the teams have already closed their budget for 2022 anyway and I'm pretty sure she and the team are looking for a contract until Paris 24 Olympics (at least). So I was more thinking about KMC/Orbea which has lost 2 top pilots recently
  • 5 0
 Lost 3 pilots but signed 4 new ones so I'm not sure.. maybe Absolute Absalon?
  • 3 0
 That would be the logical place for her. Orbea would certainly like to see a top level XC rider on their bike with two leaving for the road. I manager of KMC worked with Julie at her peak, I see that connection being made.
  • 2 0
 My money is on Specialized, Trek, Scott-SRAM, Cannondale. She's just too damn valuable to be signed by KMC-Orbea or AA.
  • 5 0
 @felixlongpre: can’t see why Pauline would let the competition in the house. But my money is on a French speaking team. The language barrier can be a hard one when it comes to teambuilding.
  • 3 0
 @felixlongpre: she is definitely not going to Absolute Absalon. They don't need another top woman as PFP is there already and I don't think Prevot would want such a teammate. However Canyon lost a top rider with Prevot...
  • 4 0
 @nattyd: Spacialized just announced Batten and Blevis, Cannondale would have made a big announcement with Mitterwallner, Trek has already two great female riders and I just don’t see the fit with Scott SRAM…there are still rumors about a all out INEOS Team around Pidcock though
  • 2 0
 @prevail: Don't know anything about Ineos plans but you're right about Spec, Cannondale and Trek. Regarding Scott, I don't believe it, this is not not the kind of team known to announce a late change or update and they always focused in one single female leader so far. Canyon could be a possibility too as they don't have any "world class" female rider anymore (don't want to make any offense)
  • 3 0
 @eekamouse: Waaaay too early to write off Kate. She's only 26 and will be back. Seems like she's been overtraining and somehow nobody in her camp has figured it out. She'll probably eventually get injured, be forced to rest, and will come back at the top.
  • 6 0
 @eekamouse: Canyon could be possible. But it depends heavily on if Batty is willing to share the spotlight or even step back into second row. She isn’t know as a teamplayer…
  • 2 1
 @nattyd: that's exactly why I don't think she will be back
  • 1 0
 @nattyd: Team budget often depend on the riders that they have. BMC or Orbea would both probably pony up extra cash to have a rider like Lonna.
  • 9 0
 Loana recently followed Canyon CLLCTV, Canyon brand, Canyon SRAM (road team) and some of the Canyon SRAM riders on instagram (doesn't know how long but it's one of the more recent followings on Instagram).

After PFP left Canyon, they stayed only with Emily Batty and Laurie Arsenault as their top female riders. And even if Emily is big on social media, it's been 2 or 3 years without the results a brand like Canyon wants, and I don't think it's likely she can go back to the level she had in 2018. So it makes a lot of sense.
  • 1 0
 Canyon cannondale or Santa Cruz
  • 1 0
 @nattyd: Doubt it's the Big S. They just expanded their Factory Team to 6 with Blevins & Batten.
No news of them dropping anyone either. Canyon would be my first guess.
  • 1 0
 @FujiPT: She also said something about an announcement tomorrow, then liked Absolute Absalon's post about their team announcement tomorrow so I guess we'll see
  • 1 0
 @FujiPT: Looks like you were right.
  • 7 0
 I thought we're supposed to start hearing confirmed teams for 2022... What's going on
  • 4 0
 I think Loana will stay in a European team to be close to her family. There is Canyon first, because since Pauline and left for BMC, there is no one in the principal team as a female, although in the satelite team there is Emily and Laurie. I am also thinking of the Ghost team and the Scott Sram team. And in the possibilities that seem less obvious to me, Orbea, BMC, Santa Cruz FSA, Trek Pirelli and American Eagle. We will see...
  • 11 4
 Specialized, they love to hire already successful athletes
  • 3 1
 Don't know why but joining a top US factory team never really succeeded to the frenchies in XC (on the contrary of DH). Maybe she should consider a more French/European team
  • 1 0
 Specialized usually get them after they’ve peaked though.
  • 1 0
 @jclnv: or lets them go right as they are peaking
  • 1 0
 I just hope what ever team she signs with, she has a dropper post installed on her bike. She has amazing climbing and descending skills, but when closely watching her descend, she had to risk too much to stay ahead or keep the pace of other riders using a dropper. In a sport where a second or two a lap can mean the difference of making the podium or not, she is losing time on the descents.
  • 2 0
 But remember that a rider takes about four times longer climbing than descending (on an 'out and back') on an XC bike. She is tiny and therefore extra weight is proportionally more of a burden.
  • 3 0
 @iamamodel: One mistake on a descent that doesn't even make her crash will cost her more time than a rigid seatpost would save her for an entire race.
  • 1 0
 @TheJD: You are right, but only IF she crashes.
  • 2 0
 @iamamodel: Well, the point is she doesn't even have to crash to loose time. Of course she can ride without any mistakes and make the rigid seatpost worth it, but it's a similar story as with heavier tires or tire inserts. They make you slower, but give you much higher chance of not having issues.
  • 1 0
 @TheJD: and @iamamodel:

It's all risk vs rewards. Every lap on the DH section on the technical courses that I've seen her race, she in on the hairy edge of disaster on the technical features. She is very capable but she could extend more time on her competitors on the descents or at least keep her big lead by dropping her post. While risking nothing.

I cannot remember the race but she did wipe out once or twice on a DH section where she would not have had an issue with a dropper.

I agree that the additional weight for someone of her size may affect her climbing, but it could be overcome.
  • 4 1
 Loana was unbeatable at the beginning of 2021. What caused her form to drop so badly at the end of the season?
  • 44 0
 She said on INstagram (translated) "After my 4 victories and after crossing the finish line of the Olympics, I understood that it was going to be difficult. Difficult to ignore certain articles, not to read people's comments, not to listen to them… because even if for them they are not “hurtful” comments, after such deadlines and such pressure, we are often more sensitive, on edge and a banal phrase can hurt us deeply. Personally, I wasn't ready yet. Since July 27 at 4:50 p.m. and until a few weeks ago, I felt a void, a lack of desire, the fear of meeting people and that they tell me about this race (which for me is successful with a goal achieved) the anxiety of talking to journalists… This is also why I preferred to end this magnificent 2021 season prematurely.

It is not in my habit to indulge myself on the networks but I wanted to talk about it to show that we are not robots, that everyone has little slack and especially to warn future champions of what is happening. may be the hidden face of high performance sport.

During this period, before and even today, I was fortunate to be accompanied, from near or far, by exceptional people who supported me and gave me back this joy of living and rage to win. I was also touched and lucky to have partners who were able to support me and understand my choices. I write these words with a light heart, a head full of goals, determination and motivation to close this great season and start the 2022 season"
  • 19 0
 The pressure got to her, so she purposefully took it down a notch - which was a wise choice.
  • 6 1
 Greg Van Avermaet syndrome?
  • 4 0
 @jamessmurthwaite: plenty of football players have been called the 'next Messi' and then crumbled under the pressure. Good on her for taking things into her own hands!
  • 4 17
flag aaronjb (Jan 10, 2022 at 5:01) (Below Threshold)
 @jamessmurthwaite: Was it the inevitable speculation about PEDs that such dominant performances can engender?
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flag aaronjb (Jan 10, 2022 at 5:06) (Below Threshold)
 @in2falling: Otherwise known as having to race cleans after a doping scare.
  • 30 1
 @aaronjb: Have you heard anything about Loana being suspect for drug use, besides message board BS that happens anytime anyone has a string of success in cycling? I’ve heard no such rumors.

The most simple explanation is probably the correct one - she had tremendous form early in the year (compared with her peers) because everyone else had done a multi-year build for Tokyo, and was planning to peak there. She burned her mental and physical matches in the first half of the season.

No need to cast aspersions with zero evidence, nor reason. Loana was dominant as a U23, we’ve seen many such female riders come in to elite and do very well, and another is on the way next season.
  • 21 1
 @tommyrod74: it’s pretty common for people to suspect that professional cyclists use PEDs. It’s also very common for them to use the PEDs. Suspension on a bike doesn’t magically change the nature of the sport.

This isn’t a commentary on Loana, but it’s reality.
  • 2 0
 @jamessmurthwaite:
I think that the press in certain countries are especially vicious and insensitive. Also could be the negativity of social media. I hope she rises above it and has another successful year. I wish her the best.
  • 9 1
 Peaked early, faded late... Pretty tough to maintain form, especially for such a young rider, over the course of any entire season.

It's not like she disappeared though, she was top 5 of every race she entered except the Olympics. She doubled her win total from any previous season, and she was on the podium in 75% of the races she entered. There are riders who would kill for their form to be "that bad."
  • 10 0
 @Mntneer: It's somewhat common for these suspicions to be voiced, and of course doping has existed (and does exist, I'm sure) in the MTB world as well as road and CX.

I still believe it's pathetically cynical to assume that any successful rider (especially one with a prior track record of success, like Loana, and Tom Pidcock as well, whom people here disparaged as a potential drug user, when he's been dominant from junior racing onward, and in multiple disciplines) is drugged up when they are dominant for a stretch then fall off a bit.

Heck, it would be far more suspicious if she didn't fall off a bit - no one can hold winning form for an entire season unless they are head-and-shoulders above their peers (see Nino in earlier years, and Absalon prior to him). Again, the obvious likely reason is just timing of peaks; she wasn't hyper-focused on Tokyo as an Olympic win for her is more realistic in 3 years, while the other top women were.

Heck, she's only 22! The first few WC races WERE like the Olympics for her. No wonder she had a comedown and needed a mental break - she had already sewn up the overall, and she went from minimal media attention and hype to the maximum in the course of a few months. In my opinion, she handled it beautifully.
  • 2 0
 In endurance sports its difficult to hold form for that long. Most racers with good coaching will peak twice a year. She needs a bigger budget team with better coaching.
  • 9 2
 ITT: People who don't know a damn thing about training. You can't peak for 6 months straight. Nearly all riders have a period of peak fitness that's maximum 1-2 months long. You can either come into the season fit and then hold on for dear life as your fitness fades, or you can come into the season on the rise and race into shape. There are extremely rare talents like Nino and Absalon that are so much better than their peers that they can win even off their form and hold it for an entire season. But even for them, they typically dominate for a few races and then have to scrap for wins later on.

Timing of a peak is a huge part of being an elite cyclist. This is why it's nearly impossible to win the Giro d'Italia and Tour de France in the same season. It's why Tour de France champions are often off the back in stage races only a month later. It's why 2019 Kate Courtney and Jolanda crushed it for half a season and then fought for minor placings at the end. It's why Jolanda dominated the Olympics but nothing else last year. She timed her peak perfectly.
  • 1 0
 @nattyd: she was coming back from near-dead; dominating was the last thing on her mind.
  • 2 0
 @in2falling: It could have easily been that and simply undiagnosed. A number of athletes have had drops in form that to they can’t explain even though they’re training well.
  • 1 1
 @Mntneer: It speaks to how naïve people are.
  • 4 5
 @tommyrod74: I mean, live your reality. You do you, as the kids say.

It's cycling. Just winning is enough to raise reasonable suspicion, unfortunately. It's the sandbox these riders play in.

All this talk of peaks and fitness is hilarious in the context of the history of doping in the sport. Even riders' surveys echo the suspicions.

As they say, beating the testing is an intelligence test, after all.
  • 4 4
 @aaronjb: If that's the case, then you've failed the test mate...

Just winning isn't enough to raise "reasonable" suspicion, and it only raises suspicion in those who've never competed. The most suspicious thing about Lecomte's season was how dominant she was early on, maintaining that level of dominance would have been cause for further suspicion but that didn't happen did it, she faded just the way a clean rider would fade.

And before you talk about peaks and fitness, you might want to try training... because fitness peaks are an absolute fact, certainly more so than your presumptions of doping. Does doping happen, absolutely... is it happening at small, low budget teams like Massi where they've discovered some magical way to beat the system, no.

There's no case, reasonable or otherwise, to suggest that's true. Where doping is happening today is split among two areas; one, riders are doping and getting caught because they lack the resources to beat protocols and, two, where teams have such massive budgets and commitment to marginal gains that they can spend huge money on the support staff and systems needed to stay one step ahead. Lecomte's situation fits neither of those cases and represents a text book fitness peak for an endurance athlete her age.
  • 3 1
 @badbadleroybrown: people also use drugs to peak. Without getting into it, timing of PED’s and performing in strictly tested sports is the art.
  • 2 1
 @badbadleroybrown: and a textbook fall off. It was total dominance and then POOF! Gone.
@tommyrod74 What, you think the other top riders were able to "peak" at her prior levels but just chose not to?
  • 3 3
 @Mntneer: No, it's really not... in fact, modern tested killed the whole 'dope for your target races' approach decades ago.

Today, "the art" is microdosing around testing schedules to produce samples that skirt under the protocol minimums while providing a small but consistent boost throughout training that can carry over to competition throughout the year. What you're talking about is the old school, Bjarne Riis predicting his victory and then laughably stampeding away from the competition on the Hautacam in 1996 is a great example of a rider doping for a peak. That just doesn't happen today. Instead, we get very natural looking peaks with elevated output thanks to 'enhanced' training. It was once considered that anything over 6.2w/kg threshold values were assumed to be doped... now we regularly see top riders approaching 6.5w/kg and some even flirting with the 6.8-7w/kg Riis put out on that ascent.

There is literally ZERO evidence to support the assertion that Lecomte is doped...
  • 2 3
 @sonuvagun: It was never "poof! gone"... She podiumed 15 of 20 races, won 11 of 20 races and was in the top 5 for 19 of 20 races. This was a textbook progression from a highly talented athlete that nobody who was paying attention was particularly surprised by.

And yes, other's could have peaked at the same time but had other targets or other issues. PFP, for example, was targeting the Olympics... Neff was recovering from a bad crash in the Pisgah over the winter... Kate Courtney was targeting a late season peak and then broke her arm at Nove Mesto. Saying they could have peaked "at her levels" just assumes that everyone else has her talent, which isn't a given. She's a legitimately generational talent, much like Tadej Pogacar, and she'll continue to put up these kinds of performances. As she ages and her endurance efficiency catches up to her raw power, she'll sustain longer peaks but, for a 22 year-old with a half dozen years of high level competition under her belt, we've seen steady progression and similar peaks her entire career.
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 @sonuvagun: I addressed this earlier: the others chose to peak for the Olympics, and used the early WC races to build towards that.
  • 3 1
 @badbadleroybrown: EPO is absolutely timed months out in order to peak hematocrit levels during target periods, and it’s done to this very day
  • 3 1
 @badbadleroybrown: Yes, she was completely destroying everyone consistently by crazy margins and then POOF that disappeared. There was no more utter dominance, suddenly the field was competitive with her again. Suddenly everyone was at her talent level again.
Go on believing in the tooth fairy and enjoy your day.
  • 1 1
 @tommyrod74: Yes, yes, of course they did and of course you know when all these other women decided to peak for the season because why wouldn't you?
  • 1 3
 @Mntneer:
Wait... you think people are still taking full dose EPO for seasonal peaks?

lol lol lol


Bro, you just lost any credibility you thought you might have had in a modern discussion of doping. The early 90's called, they want their doping programs back. Full dose EPO hasn't been a thing for literally decades. Even in the Armstrong era, that was a dying technique that was almost entirely replaced by micro-dosing. Today, probably 20-50% of teams still employ doping but there are zero percent of them using full dose peak doping approaches.

If you're going to take the jaded approach and assuming that everyone successful is doping, at least educate yourself on how doping works in the modern world. Next up you're gonna tell us that they're still using old sodium salicylate suppositories to administer the EPO too, right? Rolleyes
  • 1 3
 @sonuvagun: No, she was crushing people on climbs... which is where she excels, and going out hard to get early leads and never disappeared at all. She went from being 5% ahead of other top riders when they were sub peak and she was at peak to being 5% behind other top riders when they peaked and she was fading. She continued to excel on climbs and go out hard, she just lost that top few percent as others gained it.

And yes, of course I know when all these other women decided to peak as they literally f*cking announced it. Do you think Neff crashing in December was a big secret? She almost died and it was reported everywhere... do you think Prevot made it a secret that the Olympics were her goal? Nah, she was saying publicly as early as 2017 that her main goal looking ahead in her career was "about becoming an Olympic gold medalist" and setup her season accordingly.

My guy, you really need to try watching racing and getting some facts before you just start yammering away on topics you're obviously clueless about.
  • 1 3
 @badbadleroybrown:I ain't your guy, buddy. The only one yammering is you.
So now you're claiming all the other top riders just handed over the title to Loana because they couldn't be bothered to show up in top form for the season. Okay, have fun with that. Take care.
  • 1 4
 @sonuvagun: lol

Waaaait... just so I'm clear, you think racers all just go into the season targeting top form all season long, or they all have like a meeting and say that they're all gonna try to peak for the first half of the season, or you're just trying to dodge the fact that you have literally no idea how elite level competition works or what exactly?

I suppose you think that everyone just got together and decided to give 2020 to Prevot? Or did she dope her way to winning 4 of 12 races, podiuming 10 of 12 races, and finishing top 5 in all 12 races? 2021 was an off year for her and she still managed top 5 in 16 of 22 races, podiums in 12 of 22 races, and wins in 3 of 22 races... must be dope right?

Yeah, you definitely ain't my guy bruh... if you were, you'd have a clue. Rolleyes
  • 3 1
 @sonuvagun: There are huge bonus incentives for racers who medal at the Olympics, an Olympic medal is worth far more in lasting fame and endorsements for these racers (everyone knows what an Olympian is), and the athletes all announced it was the focus of their season, and how tough it was to reconfigure the peak after Tokyo was delayed for a year.

It's almost like you haven't ever competed at a high level, and don't pay attention.
  • 1 1
 @nattyd: You're gonna see some GT doubles soon, maybe this year.

Timing the peaks! Love it. How quaint.
  • 2 1
 @Mntneer: Gonna need some Katie Compton superfans to weigh in on this thread. She knew she was being targeted and still played with fire.
  • 2 4
 @aaronjb: bet you $1000 nobody does a GC double this year. Put your money where you bullshit is...

And if you actually believe Compton was doping, using 15 year old substances at that, then I've got some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you, it's a great deal.
  • 1 1
 @Mntneer: Bio-passport has made blood doping at the highest level difficult. Using the OFFscore (a combination of the haemoglobin level and the percentage of reticulocytes) they can target people for spot testing. Also most World Tour teams won't touch a rider with a funky OFFscore. The biggest gain in performance the last 5 years has been Ketones and they are legal.
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown: They would have to dope ALL year to have a consistent biopassport.
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown: Pogacar may have you eating your words. Roglic almost did the Tour Vuelta double if not for Tadej and that crazy last day in 2020.
  • 2 0
 @aaronjb: Will it happen at some point? Probably! But “almost impossible” is exactly right. I’ve watched great riders try and fail for 20 years.

Timing a peak is one of the most basic ideas in training. Literally every top pro understands and uses this concept. Don’t believe me? Go to a pro race, visit a pit and ask them yourselves.
  • 1 0
 @OnTheRivet: that's not the way the biological passport works
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown: No. I have no idea why you assumed that.
It's sort of pointless to discuss anything with someone (you) who insists on stupid projections.
  • 1 1
 @tommyrod74: ah yes, the late breaking news that winning at the Olympics can pay off financially. Well shucks, I guess only the Swiss women got your memo.
  • 1 0
 @sonuvagun: yes, the fact that only 3 of them could make the podium means that no one else built several years of prep around them. Good Lord, you’re thick.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun: Nah, you're right... that's why I'm not discussing your stupid projections, just laughing at your ignorance.

Don't let me interrupt you though, please tell us more about how athletes don't have timed peaks and you the inside secrets that contradict the public statements of all these riders... this is really good stuff.
  • 2 1
 @badbadleroybrown: So tell me how YOU think it works. This should be amusing.
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 @OnTheRivet: lol

I've give you a hint lil buddy, it isn't limited to a single year. Feel free to read up.

www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/resources/files/guidelines_abp_v8_final.pdf
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown: I didn't say they didn't.
You talk about all the top riders peaking for the Olympics and then leave out that usual top finishers didn't even podium save for one.
You talk about riders not trying to peak for the whole season cause that's not doable and then bring up PFP season of domination to prove your point (wait, what?)
It's unclear what you're trying to say, but take up @OnTheRivet 's offer and see how that goes.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun:
1. Go ahead and quote where I said all the top riders peaked for the Olympics.

2. PFP's season of domination is very similar to Lecomte's dominant season... ergo, not a "season" of domination, but several dominant performances in a highly successful season. This is what the best riders do, in XCO they crush the field in a few races and secure top 5's and podiums in the rest of the races where they're not peaking. Kate Courtney's breakout season in 2019 was the same... 19 of 24 races in the top 5, 16 of 24 on the podium, 10 of 24 wins. The point that your remedial comprehension seems to be struggling with here is that there's nothing abnormal about Lecomte's breakout season. This isn't uncharted territory that gives reasonable suspicion about doping, it's exactly the type of breakout performance we expect from rising stars and the type of performance we expect from established superstars.

3. Come back and try again when you have some knowledge to work from.
  • 1 1
 @tommyrod74: So it's like everyone on the planet already knew winning an Olympic medal pays off? Yet you still felt it worth pointing out? Oh well, I'm sure it was a relevant point to you.
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 @sonuvagun: it seemed to be necessary to point it out to you, and only you, as you didn’t seem to grasp the concept.

In any case, this has become like wrestling in the mud with a pig, and as I’ve made my point in a coherent and defensible fashion, I’m done here.
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown: 1. Irony
2. Word salad to ignore the differences.
3. Knowledge that cyclists use pharmaceuticals? Knowledge of which ones they take? Keep typing.
  • 1 1
 @tommyrod74: If performance is the indicator then the results spoke differently than your sources. But that's not the point, and who knows what crazy logic you were trying to lay out to prove it's impossible an athlete would use pharmaceuticals to enhance their training and thereby their performance.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun: I really admire your ability to type so many words and still manage to avoid even accidentally saying anything intelligent or relevant. Can't say I understand or relate to that level of stupidity, but I do admire your commitment to it.
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown: I had hardly typed a thing.
You're the one putting out an unreasonable assertion that it's wrong to be suspicious of extraordinary performances in a sport known for cheating.
If you wanted to even approach this logically you would compare metrics of past performances!
You would take into account competition (number of competitors), margin of victories, fastest laps, conditions, etc. But you didn't even come close to making it to logic and reason via basic f'n numbers.
Instead you made fragmentary comparisons to another racer (in different conditions, among a different field, at a different point in her career), then claimed to be an expert and call me stupid.
Sorry that a dumb ass like me has to explain the failings of your logic.
You can go back to stroking your ego now.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun: Incorrect, yet again... at least you're consistent.

There was nothing extraordinary about her performances, as evidenced by other notable riders putting on similar performances.

I also never claimed to be an expert on anything, only to be better informed than an idiot like you.

And a dumbass like you has yet to explain anything, to me or anyone else. All you've done is carry on crying about how you're sure she cheated despite the testing she underwent, just because you're an idiot who doesn't understand training or competing.

But kudos for yet another post where you deftly managed to avoid anything intelligent. Well done.
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown:
I explained to you how to use HER past metrics to prove if there are sudden jumps and or spikes in performance. And what do you do? You go bring up other riders again.

It's simple math, albeit a tedious process. You could prove her performances were or were not suspicious with that method.

No one claim she definitely cheated. But we are allowed to speculate on the topic without having you dancing about as the thought police. Honestly, you seem psychologically unwell.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun:
1. No, actually you didn't say anything about her past performance... you went on a little sookfest about "extraordinary" performances and "metrics of past performances" but you're really on a win streak as far as saying stupid shit without any intelligence sneaking in!

2. Her past performances, while consistently excellent and supportive of current performances, aren't relevant since this was her first year at the elite level and all her past performances were as an under 23.

3. Good of you to let us know that you're as uneducated in psychology as you are in competitive cycling and doping, but not sure how that's relevant. You've thoroughly proven your elite idiot status and there's really no need to continue working so hard to demonstrate just how deficient your intellect is, but you do you lil buddy... Tell us more about who's doping just because their results are too impressive for no talent hack like you to comprehend.
  • 1 1
 @badbadleroybrown: 1.Yes I did. You lose.
2. Yes they are. You lose again.
3. Okay then, sorry you're having issues with being wrong. Get used to it. Adios.
  • 1 1
 @sonuvagun: lol

Saying it doesn't make it so cupcake... Sorry you're bad at english and that your parents birthed an idiot, but I'm sure you'll find someone somewhere who's dumb enough to believe you're smart, it just ain't me and it ain't today.

The only thing you've proven here is that you're an idiot and you have zero knowledge of doping, training, or competitive cycling. But keep telling yourself you're right, cause that's the only time you'll ever hear it.
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 @badbadleroybrown: You mean it wasn't clear to you that you would have to measure one person's past performances over a given timeline in order to identify any of THEIR performance spikes??????

You think using someone's performances during their 21/22 (age) season can't be logically compared to their 20/21 (age) season before that because they were even more under the age of 23?

It really is fascinating to step into the mind of people like yourself from time to time, but that's enough for me.
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 @sonuvagun: Wow... you're really bad at English and basic reading comprehension, huh? I mean, I knew you were stupid but you continue to impress with the depth and breadth of your stupidity.

Her age 21/22 season was last season you f*cking idiot... she's still U23, she just stepped up to elites because she was already dominant in U23 and ready for a higher level of competition. But sure, you don't even know how old she is but you know she was doping. lol

Comparing her performances then to now and there's nothing aberrative... but comparing all the retarded shit you were sooking on about like lap times and margin of victory isn't relevant when the entire competitive field changes going from U23 to elites.

Just stop... you've already proven you lack the mental capacity to think your way out of a wet cardboard box, stop trying to pretend you've ever been right about anything in your life and go tell your parents they're trash for raising an idiot and then ask your teachers why they failed you.
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 @badbadleroybrown: Compton got popped with some targeted testing. She was glowing.

Her defense, as presented by her coach and husband, was some whackadoo conspiracy theory.

Occam's razor and all.

You think she didn't want to end her career with a great placing in Arkansas?
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 @aaronjb: Compton got popped for metabolites that could've easily come from meat or a supplement. She actually had a much more plausible result than people realize. Her current results weren't actually out of range, but when compared across seven years of data a peak of testosterone metabolites showed. It was CIR'd and the results didn't come back for five months, at which point it was impossible to mount a defense.

But yeah, Occam's Razor and all... what's simpler, that a life long clean racing advocate sold out after two decades of racing and countless accolades and decided to risk everything for almost no return, or that she ate a steak that had been pumped up with testosterone, which is extremely common?
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 @badbadleroybrown: You wrote: 2. Her past performances, while consistently excellent and supportive of current performances, aren't relevant since this was her first year at the elite level and all her past performances were as an under 23.

I wrote: You think using someone's performances during their 21/22 (age) season can't be logically compared to their 20/21 (age) season before that because they were even more under the age of 23?

Yet you then replied with: Her age 21/22 season was last season you f*cking idiot... she's still U23, she just stepped up to elites because she was already dominant in U23 and ready for a higher level of competition..

It's like you don't actually know what words mean and you're just typing disconnected noise.
Yes, I wrote she was under 23 last season and the season prior. Go read it. Again. Take more time until the consequence of that sinks in. No, can't figure it out? It means I am and was fully aware of her age, you impossibly stupid wankstain.

I gave you a method, which you're now using, to plot progress by metrics. My goal wasn't to prove she's innocent or guilty, just that your stupid position of "you can't cast aspersions on my imaginary girlfriend cause I said so," is complete horseshit.

Every post is just you unable to draw direct conclusions and creating another strawman.

Do you struggle with identity and? Is the world of mtb your "thing," and so you feel you need to defend anything and everyone involved in it? You should seek counseling. People like you are just a step or two away from becoming a rapist because you identify too strongly with your views and show signs you just get away with forcing your views on others. You probably target petite women as well.
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 @sonuvagun: Awww, look at you still going, lil guy... It's heartwarming to see a mentally disabled individual like you really step up and find the confidence to try to debate with folks who posses fully functional brains, good for you!

I know words are hard but her being under the age of 23 and her racing in the U23 category are different things. Her age doesn't render the comparison pointless, the level of competition does. So yeah, she dominated even more as a U23 and that's not relevant... not because she was even more under the age of 23 there I Am Sam, but because she was racing U23's that aren't comparable to the comparison at the higher level so it makes sense that her form wasn't as good across the season as it had been in U23. Which goes right back to my original conclusion, she came out on top form and struggled to hold it all year against a higher level of competition... and that saying that's cause for suspicion only demonstrates a tremendous depth of ignorance about training and racing. I'm sure if you ask some of the teachers at your group home to help walk you through it, you'll get it eventually. Just keep trying.

But bonus points for all the self-projection at the end there about your identity and rape fantasies... not sure why you felt the need to add that but it definitely affirms all my assumptions about your mental issues. Good luck with all that.
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 @badbadleroybrown: more word salad from the resident psycho
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 @sonuvagun: Weird that you're giving yourself a title now, Mr "resident psycho", but you do you do... whatever helps you make it through the day avoiding giving in to all that weird rapey shit you're struggling with.
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 @badbadleroybrown: Try harder, try better.
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 @sonuvagun: It's cute that you think you're worth trying for... good for you, know your worth kang. lol
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 @badbadleroybrown: +1 for efficiency.
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 Wow didnt see that coming.
Joining the dream team at Trek?
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 looks like trek are hiring every single cross country racer, its a sure fire way to guarantee a win
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 Well... I always asked myself what a bikerider is looking for when being with such a famous socker player... I mean he may be rich but what's that worth if you can't share your passion? Parting ways can hurt but I think it's gonna be for the better for both of them.
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 Uh... wut?
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 @badbadleroybrown: maybe a quite bad joke regarding Massi sounding like Messi?
Just a guess.
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 @jayjay1989: lol

I think you may be right but... Wow, that was such a bad joke that it went completely over my head lol.
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 For sure ending up on one of the big 3 factory teams... (trek, specialized or scott...)
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 These messages started with some useful information. Then unknown riders leaving well known teams - now even teams are absolutely under my radar
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 Much bigger money coming her way after winning the 2021 World Cup Overall.
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 Yana Belomoina won the 2017 World Cup XC Overall, yet didn't seem to hit the jackpot in terms of signing with a big team. She has still stayed with the relatively small CST mtb racing team since 2016. She's been on the same team (different sponsors) with manager Bart Brentjens since at least 2013. So it appears at least some riders don't cash out after winning the WC Overall.
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 She‘s still a „one hit wonder“ though and she couldn’t finish the whole season. Will be interesting to see how she will cope with 9 World Cups this year.
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 @dhfox322: Big team doesn't always mean bigger money. I'm sure Belomoina made much more money after winning the World Cup Overall with both current sponsors and new sponsors. If you are the #1 XC mountain biker in the entire world more money is coming your way.
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 @prevail: Time will tell, but many thought that other top XC women were one hit wonders and are solidly seated at the top.
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 @prevail: She was pretty dominant but mtb racing is weird in that you get so many "next greatest" that seem to disappear. Bresset had a great career but it could have been the best ever, she just disappeared. Tanja Zakelj is another.
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 My money is on Canyon... or another addition to Trek's burgeoning super team.
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 I am guessing Alpecin-Fenix - whos with me?
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 Not a bad guess. I’m going with Cannondale or Scott-SRAM
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 She joined Canyon!
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