Qualifying Results from the Snowshoe DH World Cup 2022

Jul 29, 2022 at 9:27
by Ed Spratt  
Goldstone doesn t do pencils.


After a wet and wild practice and Timed Training session on the Snowshoe course riders are back between the tape to fight for the top qualifying spots ahead of tomorrow's racing. Monika Hrastnik and Laurie Greenland went fastest in timed training, but qualifying is where we will really see how fast riders can hit the course. Will we get some fresh faces at the top of the timings today?

Check out the results below.



Results:


Elite Women


1st. Camille Balanche: 4:38.691
2nd. Myriam Nicole: 4:45.549
3rd. Vali Höll: 4:50.105
4th. Eleonora Farina: 4:57.946
5th. Nina Hoffmann: 5:02.304


Elite Men


1st. Amaury Pierron: 3:51.056
2nd. Thibaut Daprela: 3:51.914
3rd. Bernard Kerr: 3:51.966
4th. Loic Bruni: 3:52.240
5th. Ronan Dunne: 3:55.290


Junior Women


1st. Phoebe Gale: 5:26.370
2nd. Izabela Yankova: 5:45.171
3rd. Aimi Kenyon: 5:50.959
4th. Gracey Hemstreet: 6:16.072
5th. Valentina Roa Sanchez: 6:25.327


Junior Men


1st. Jackson Goldstone: 3:51.371
2nd. Lachlan Stevens-McNab: 4:03.292
3rd. Tegan Cruz: 4:04.749
4th. Alix Francoz: 4:06.775
5th. Jordan Williams: 4:07.160



Full Results:

Elite Women


Elite Men


Junior Women


Junior Men






231 Comments

  • 135 1
 Holy Goldstones, Batman!
  • 8 0
 Right. he laid down a heater.
  • 15 1
 He’s gonna be a force in the elite category next year - like when Greenland came into the class and bagged a silver at the WCs in his first season - Discovery upheaval or not next season is going to bang.
  • 5 2
 @uk-hardtail: Can he race elites next year? Do they have to be a certain age? He obviously can compete with the Elites.
  • 48 0
 @uk-hardtail: Discovery... If a World Cup bangs in the woods and there's nobody there to hear it, does it make a sound?
  • 11 0
 We all knew he'd be good while watching him grow up but Damn!!!
  • 4 0
 Omg that's amazing, he's really killing it course after course
  • 1 0
 @bok-CZ: the track has to be a mess by now.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: no doubt
  • 7 1
 @Three6ty: Can he race elites this year? This is getting embarrassing..
  • 2 0
 Scratch matters!! Win it Jackson!!
  • 3 7
flag ExMxEr (Jul 29, 2022 at 13:37) (Below Threshold)
 @Clem-mk:
I’d hate to be Laurie Greenland these days..
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: Ha right!!! Actually I was really asking a legit question as I don't know all the rules on Juniors moving up to the Elite. My question was, is their a minimum age you have to be to move up into the Elites?
  • 2 0
 @Three6ty: yeah, 19 yrs
  • 2 1
 @Three6ty: Huh, good question.
I was thinking of MX where you have to spend your first year on the “little” bikes. 250F’s are a feeder to the 450’s. I don’t remember a junior being pushed up mid season.
  • 2 0
 @Three6ty: Not sure, but I think he already turned 18 this year, so he should be automatically moving to elites next year.
  • 5 10
flag owl-X (Jul 29, 2022 at 14:10) (Below Threshold)
 @ExMxEr: yeah? Ripping and wildly successful professional mtb racer, charismatic as anyone yet approachable…star of his sport and living it up all over the world in the off- (and on-) season? And not nearly half a century old with this blown up knee and can’t lift my arm over my head without risking more surgery that I can’t afford and the car needs work and it’s 95 degrees again and we’re teaching the 9-year-old to zig-zag as she runs from the next school shooter? Dude could grow that long hair again anytime he wanted too.
Sign me up dude do you have a secretary to make your PB posts wtf!!! You’d HATE to be Laurie Greenland these days holyshit
  • 7 0
 @owl-X: You know what I meant. Rant was unnecessary.
  • 3 2
 @ExMxEr: gimme something man I’m losing it
  • 2 8
flag ExMxEr (Jul 29, 2022 at 15:05) (Below Threshold)
 @owl-X: Sounds like it..
Pressure. Pressure to perform. In F1it’s understood that your biggest rival is your teammate. Same car (maybe..), hence the only fair race on the track. Your not just driving against your teammate, you’re driving for your career!
Greg Minarr is already there. Santa Cruz chose to keep him. They know what they have and are probably what they’re going to get in 2022. It’s on Laurie to beat Minarr (spellcheck?) to cement himself as the future of Santa Cruz.
Does Greg care that Jackson is mopping the floor with him? Nope, what’s he got to loose? Does Laurie care? Absofreakinloutely! He might end up a privateer next year if he doesn’t start beating that junior rider..
  • 5 2
 Takes stones of gold to throw down a run like that
  • 6 3
 @owl-X:
Last race, people were talking crap about Jackson’s fast time in the final being due to nothing more than changing track conditions. True, but he also owned fastest time of the weekend!
Now he would slot into 2nd. in elite qualifying..
The kid’s on fire. He is the future of this sport.
  • 3 1
 @ExMxEr: Horse shit.
  • 15 0
 Strider background is the new bmx background.
  • 2 2
 @Malky79:
I sorry, horse shit it typically reserved for non-truths. These are facts. You might want to check the bullshit meter.
  • 1 0
 Imagine the look on the Obstetricians face when he was born.
  • 4 1
 @ExMxEr: not sure what last race has to do with todays qualifying. Last race he had a great time, but 3 other juniors put up what would have been too 10 times in the elite. That’s not normal. People were not ‘talking crap’, they were correctly pointing out that the track likely ran much easier early in the day.

Todays qualifying did not show the same across the board times in juniors so its likely Jackson really did put down an awesome run. But that doesn’t somehow now prove anyone right or wrong about last race.
  • 2 4
 @sino428:
I was speaking to a lot of responses discounting Jackson’s accomplishments in the last race as if there’s an obvious reason why he’s just another junior, and the stopwatch lied.
His time was the fastest of the weekend.. Why does this seem to upset everyone? This is all running including all practice runs for all riders. So where is his massive advantage on track conditions during practice? Anyone?
I find myself in the same position defending the kid for his Snowshoe qualifying time. The better question is why are so many people out there trying to discount his accomplishments?
  • 1 0
 @uk-hardtail: hes a force now..
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: Practice isn't a race. Has there ever been a weekend (unless it was dry practice and soaking wet quali/race) that a practice time was the fastest of the weekend? There's your answer.

His run was amazing. His run was the fastest. It almost certainly wouldn't have been quite as fast if he'd ridden with the elites. That's not denigrating him, it's just reality.
  • 1 0
 @wingguy: You’re perfectly illustrating my point with this post! Practice isn’t a race? Thanks for that, first I’ve heard of that one. Here I go again, defending the kid.

www.pinkbike.com/news/timed-training-results-vallnord-dh-world-cup-2022.html
And there’s you’re answer..
So can you tell me who was fully on it and who wasn’t during that practice? Can you tell me exactly what conditions were in Jackson”s favor? Every rider had a chance at all conditions all weekend long.
You’re mistaking me for someone looking for an answer. But get ready for the day Jackson has the fastest race time of the weekend. Think long and hard about your “answer”. There will be a lot questions..
  • 2 0
 @ExMxEr: I have no idea what you're trying to say. No-one went faster in practice regardless of conditions because no one is ever trying to lay down a race run heater in practice. This is a straight up fact.
  • 2 0
 @wingguy: And that is straight up not a fact.
Maybe you should do a survey among all pro racers- find out how hard they push in practice.
I’m watching F1 practice 3 right now. Last chance to set up before qualifying. Maybe they’re going 90% because who wants to know how the car will work at full tilt?
What I’m saying is that an elite rider should have laid down a faster time in the option loaded practice if they’re all head and shoulders faster than Jackson. Then I will agree that Jackson’s race run was only about the conditions.
  • 2 0
 @ExMxEr: Again, I have no idea why you think you have a point here. The second longest running joke in PB comments (after ‘looks like a Session’) is that timed training results mean something. Apparently you are under the mistaken impression that the people constantly making that joke were being serious.

If someone in practice ‘should have gone faster’ and they were all going full gas then why was the fastest elite practice run 8 seconds slower than the win, despite conditions being better? Why are the fastest elite practice runs ALWAYS so much faster than the race run, unless it’s a comparison of dry to full wet?

I get it if you’re an F1 fan who’s only just discovered DH racing that you might not know this, but you should trust someone who does instead of getting bent out of shape over an imaginary slight against your boy Jackson. Who, again, I fully agree is awesome.
  • 1 0
 @robway: "yeah, I've been riding Balance bike since I was, like, two"
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: Bu the way, if you’ve been watching the rest of the F1 today you’ll have seen Latifi go first in FP3 and last in qualifying. So tell me again how hard the rest of the drivers were trying in? Wink
  • 1 0
 @wingguy: I’m getting it from the slight against George Russell vs Lewis Hamilton.
The inter webs were ripe with rationals for why George kicking Lewis”s ass wasn’t actually happening. You’re not seeing what you’re seeing. This has the same flavor.
  • 1 0
 @wingguy:
So Jackson qualified 12 seconds(!) ahead of the second place junior rider.. Must have been the conditions.
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: The conditions are responsible for Jackson winning junior quali? What on earth makes you think that??

By the way, even George Russell is upfront about the fact that split setup decisions were responsible for a lot of the times that he was faster than Lewis so far this year. And he says that he can still see from behind the scenes data the areas where Lewis has the edge on him that he’s trying to learn from. But maybe that’s all a conspiracy from George to be anti-George. Makes as much sense as anything else you’ve said so far.
  • 1 0
 @wingguy: Exactly. This is shades of the exact bullshit of the Lewis/George comparison.
Just like George destroying Lewis in qualifying today- never happened. They got the graphic wrong. George was driving a Ferrari. George was driving a Redbull, Lewis was driving a Williams because of that scorching first sector, everybody was out to block Lewis, George picked up a draft off Max, Toto turned the hybrid drive down in Lewis’s car, Latiffi crashed, and the Redbulls are starting down there to keep Lewis from catching George.
And Jackson can’t hang with any elite riders.
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: Lol what are you even talking about? All this waffle just to disguise the fact that you don’t know timed training isn’t a race and you don’t think conditions make any difference to times. You talked about polling riders earlier - how about you poll those F1 drivers and ask them if track evolution is a thing. What do you think they’ll say?

BTW, Lewis had a broken DRS in Q3. I wonder if it’s possible for you to accept that reality without thinking it’s somehow part of an anti-George conspiracy.
  • 1 0
 @wingguy:
It’s just all of it. I don’t really care. It just breaks my heart to see another bright eyed kid having to navigate negative press. Again. I’m too old for this shit. I’ll check the DRS situation. But I guess it wasn’t George beating the rest of the field. That’s what seems to be missed.
Peace.
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: What negative press? I’ve never seen a single person say Jackson is anything other than an awesomely talented, insanely fast rider. Pointing out that track conditions changed and he probably wouldn’t have put down a winning time if he’d ridden at the same time as the elites is not negative, it’s a simple acknowledgement of reality.

What’s more damaging for a young rider to navigate is the weight of unrealistic expectation. Finn put a lot of pressure on himself to be the junior who came out winning in first year elite and when it didn’t instantly happen it f*cked him up for a couple of seasons, IMO. I don’t think there could be anything more negative than putting pressure on Jackson to consistently put down podium times when he does join elites because the disappointment if it doesn’t happen would be super damaging and not at all his fault.

And again - when you are in the position of having to pretend that lots of top contenders are laying down complete flat out race runs in timed training in order to support your argument… then you have to know you’re talking nonsense. Right?
  • 1 0
 @wingguy: I’m done here. Having People justify your times is the kind of negative press the kid doesn’t need. Am I now going to get 50 more people telling me that practice isn’t a race? Is it really truly that offensive to the whole Pinkbike forum sphere?
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: You started this, talking a load of bull. Nobody's said anything negative about Jackson, he's great, and it will be exciting to watch him race elite, but those of us who have been watching for a bit know that the transition from junior to elite is seldom easy. You also refused to listen to any suggestion that track variation between junior and elite was a significant factor. Jackson took a well deserved win today, over 5s ahead of 2nd place. He would have placed 23rd in elite. I've got no doubt that he would have been faster on the track later in the day when it was drier. I don't know what your point is or why you are upset. If you are going to spout disrespectful drivel like you did about Laurie Greenland, a former junior world champ, (10s faster than Jackson today), you can expect someone is going to have something to say in response.
  • 1 0
 @ExMxEr: Not a single negative thing has been said about the kid outside of your imagination. And since you are still making the utterly absurd claim that Jackson's race run can be compared against Elite timed training results because you're sure they were laying down their best effort top to bottom... then you really do need to have 50 more people explain to you what practice is.
  • 99 0
 CATHRO!!!
  • 7 0
 between Finn and Wyn, how classic!
  • 2 0
 First name I look for! He is going to be busy.
  • 1 0
 even with a sniffle
  • 1 0
 Cathro could be on for his best ever result here!!
  • 2 0
 @Paco77: Pretty sure Cathro had a top ten finish back in the speed-suit days before he "retired" for 10 years. Would love to see him get there again, but that might be expecting too much from him right now!
  • 1 0
 @rcrocha: he's going to be exhausted
  • 79 0
 Hell yes Bernard!
  • 11 0
 I would absolutely love to see him win this!!
  • 6 0
 @Paco77:
GO BEN!!!
  • 1 0
 Solid geezer.... Manager, organsiser, rider. Top bloke.
  • 61 2
 Bernard's gonna take the win.
  • 5 0
 That would be sick I’m pullin for the man
  • 47 2
 Aimi ripping it up again!!
  • 20 1
 Camille the Consistent. Nothing flashy- just gets the job done.
  • 34 1
 I'd be pumped if BK replicates his quali position to the race (or better).
  • 29 4
 Kerr winning a World Cup would be the tits. He makes being incredibly busy look effortless. Team Manager, top top top bike handler any place you put him and MX shit disturber (TM). If you haven't seem his beer bottle vids, do it. And the rest.
  • 6 0
 @BenPea: his beer bottle vids? And yeah, i don't know how he operates. Dude is always on the go, wonder how much sleep he gets.
  • 1 0
 @wbro74: I saw him on morzine one day, and the next day his vlogging from track walk...
  • 12 14
 All on top of being a tit.
  • 1 0
 @thewho07: everyone is a tit to someone
  • 1 0
 @wbro74: they're out there. Whistler?
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: almost.......
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: dayum!!!
  • 24 0
 Kerr on a heater !! Gwinner easier pace.. .not sure he is in the mix again. ( top 10 ) this weekend. Hoping inside top 20 to maintain auto qualify heading into Quebec. Kerr has a shot at the W !!
  • 35 1
 BK is on the form of his life.. amazing..
  • 4 1
 Rootin for Gwin but not sure these kinda conditions are his strong suit
  • 1 0
 @yoimaninja: Yeah he's done well in the wet. But it was nowhere near this muddy.
  • 1 1
 @yoimaninja: yeah, cos California is known for it's constant rain and fog.....
  • 20 0
 Yes, Pinkbike Racing! Get in. You have got to be happy with that. Cathro, 34! Aimi, again. Thibault, pipped to top 40 at the last. And Jackson straight back with a top 20.

I know Ben's got 56 jobs to do on race weekend, so this is more rhetorical... Ben, did you ever think the team would be doing this well?
  • 16 1
 Goldstone almost 12 seconds faster! WOW. He and Finn are gonna have the maple leaf 1-2 in a world cup event here soon...
  • 4 1
 Or probably Hemstreet / Goldstone 1-1 Elite in a few years
  • 6 1
 And the year after Goldstone and Williams go elite you have Tegan Cruz and Bodhi Kuhn, two more Canadian juniors who have been doing great this season. They've raced against each other since they were in their early teens, just about always finishing 1-2 (usually Kuhn was 1). I don't understand by Kuhn hasn't been signed to a team.
  • 1 0
 Finn is a nice bloke, but his results recently don't equate with his fandom.... His whole "best Canadian result since Chainsaw" is a bit tiring.
  • 12 0
 And they want to cut the final to 30 riders…that’s insane. Look at the top 60 there are a lot of great riders between 31 and 60…
  • 2 0
 If they cut it to 30 I have to assume they'll also cut the protected list in half. They can't have only 10 spots available to non-protected qualifiers.
  • 1 0
 @Bibico: Unless they close it off completely like World Surf League where you have to qualify for the Championship Tour out of the Qualifying Series and the Challenger Series, which is just brutal as surfing is in part dictated by the ocean, so you have to expect to go to a lot of (expensive to get to) events and do well on average. There was even a mid season cut in the Championship Tour this year which was extra brutal. On the plus side this means there are fewer names you have to keep track of, and it makes a lot of logistical sense given the practicalities of needing waves and running both men's and women's in the same event. But DH doesn't have these practical limitations and I don't think the sport is anywhere near big enough in either rider numbers or the sponsor market for such a set up to make sense.
  • 6 0
 @The-Foiling-Optimist: I think this is Discovery’s plan. Given the F1 references, Discovery’s content, and what TV dorks seem to want to do. Instead of simply covering races, they want to “tell stories” that “transcend sport” or whatever. Every time. I fear they’re gonna turn DH into a reality show, instead of showing reality. They want a Drive to Survive, which really only works with ten people in your Real World house…great format for F1, where it’s always been about 3 teams tops (generous), but not for our current DH racing.
Your surfing analogy is terrifying.
  • 1 0
 @owl-X: I'm terrified too and I'm not remotely confident they know what they're doing. This has echoes of that initiative in Europe last year to create a European super league in football, where again you'd have some key big market teams on the inside with no threat of relegation. There was a huge outcry and the whole thing died. The same thing might have to happen here.
  • 1 0
 @owl-X: big brother and all the other reality shows have a lot to f*cking answer for.
  • 15 1
 Did Flo just qualify for his 100th WC start with the #100 plate?
  • 14 1
 Neko!
  • 2 0
 Experienced riders tend to do well in difficult conditions. He must have more experience on this track than most. Great to see!
  • 1 0
 @thingswelike: A muddy Windrock is probably very similar
  • 11 1
 A 1 minute spread from 1st to 5th! Conditions might be just slightly difficult!
  • 12 1
 This would be so much more exciting if I could watch it live...
  • 2 0
 Strong take
  • 1 0
 There is a link to live timing in another pinkbike thread from yesterday. I will see if I can find it and link it for you.

(not video, but take what we can get)
  • 2 0
 Next year your wish will be true!! Just pony up some $$$$
  • 8 1
 I'm relatively new to following DH racing, and I have a question:

Why is it desirable to place high in qualifying? Seems like it puts you at a disadvantage, i.e. track conditions by the time you go down.

Of course, I do acknowledge that it seems to work out that the fastest qualifiers usually still put down the fastest race times.
  • 36 3
 Points towards the overall. That's it. If you're really the fastest rider, the track deteriorating doesn't matter and you cannot purposely place lower in qualifying to go earlier if say worse weather is moving in later in the day for example. But really who cares because once Discovery takes over, everyone is fucked.
  • 7 0
 You get point
If you aren't a protected rider there is also a risk of not qualifying
The prestige / pressure /confidence of being near the top probably helps in your race run
  • 7 0
 Points! The overall has been lost in qualifying results before, so it's definitely a game of points.
  • 2 0
 You get points for the overall from qualifying results. Also sometimes conditions improve later in the day. It doesn't always or even often get worse. Like when its muddy and later runs are dryer.
  • 4 0
 You have the slight advantage of knowing everyone else's results, maybe the guy ahead of you in the overall crashes so you take it a bit easy. But you also get all the pressure, and the worst rutted out track of any rider, so it's a give and take.
  • 3 0
 @toad321: are there realy protected riders? So if they crash in the quali they may start?
  • 5 0
 @filsdanvers: Yes top 20, as long as they start a qualifying run, they get to race.
  • 3 0
 @filsdanvers: Yes the people on top of the overall ( i think top 15 in elite mens) are protected. You can see the P by their name. If they crash they can still start
  • 2 0
 @filsdanvers: Of course. That's what the "P" means.
  • 3 0
 @filsdanvers: yes, If you look at the standings, there a "P" next to their name. This indicates a protected rider. If a protected rider crashes or gets a flat. and fails to qualify or qualifies poorly. they still make the race. this can keep them in the points running for the overall. all P riders will also ride within the top 15 reguardless of where they qual. I think that part is bullshit.
  • 1 0
 @mab411 Some of us remember times when qualifying did not reward any points so people would intentionally qualify low to get better race track conditions. Then Champery 2007 happened, turned out to be the most legendary DH race in history, and next year the rules were changed so qualifying run now also gives points that count towards overall. Just a bit of DH history Smile

@filsdanvers exactly, top20 are protected so they get to race even if they place outside of qualifying time.
  • 1 0
 the track will be getting drier during the day tomorrow... sometimes the track gets faster...
  • 1 0
 @Bomadics: flip side to rutted is you get the best grooves cut into corners after the others have gone
  • 1 0
 Live tv time
  • 1 0
 50 points available in quali, 200 in the race.
  • 1 0
 @scott-townes: actually loads of race winners have played the tactics game with bad quali getting better start time. Best example of it is Champery 2007. Matti stopped for like 10s on course to get an earlier start time as he knew rain came in at same time every day.
  • 1 0
 Sponsor exposure as well (which is of course who pays the bills). Want to place high enough you’re getting the race run tv coverage, and I imagine people pay a bit more attention to the final riders.
  • 1 0
 @nlitworld: @winko says this was what actually brought about points for qualifying.
  • 1 0
 Including today's qualifying, Amaury Pierron has 195 points just from qualifying.
To put that in (sort of) perspective, the guy in 24th in the standings (Frixtalon) has 168 points from racing and qualifying combined.
  • 1 0
 @nlitworld: I'm aware, its been banned for a while now.
  • 2 0
 See Bruni's performance where he purposely qualied 1st because he likes the pressure of running last.

#propergeezer
  • 1 0
 Thanks, guys! Didn’t know they got points in qualifying. Makes perfect sense, then!
  • 11 0
 Yeah Ronan! - the Irish Nat DH Champ '22
  • 2 0
 Yeoww
  • 7 0
 Privateer report:
Antoine Rogge, currently the highest ranked non-team rider in the standings (33rd in points) qualified 36th. He said he found funding to allow him to travel from Europe and enter both North American races.
Just passing that along FWIW.
  • 3 0
 Ronan Dunne is a privateer and 5th. That Nukeproof team only get frames and tyres iirc.
  • 11 0
 Go Big Ben Smile
  • 5 0
 Cathro's in the show! His time put Thibault on the bubble though Frown And I think it was Wyn that bumped him.
  • 2 0
 @clipless03: Thibault is 41st, well in top 60
  • 1 0
 @clipless03: Yean Ben!

Trivia - Ronan was a Wyn Privateer last year.
  • 9 0
 Yeah Ronan! The flag on the sleeve flying proud! Legend
  • 6 0
 Ronan Dunne with a stormer early on... and still 4 seconds slower than Jackson!
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flag createthemess (Jul 29, 2022 at 11:34) (Below Threshold)
 Not even Amaury could beat Jackson's time. Of course the track was probably nasty as hell for Elites, but still...
  • 2 0
 @createthemess:

AP 'beat' JG's time by 1/3rd of a second.
  • 2 1
 Correcting myself here - Amaury the only rider faster, but by 3 tenths of a second. Unreal from both.
  • 3 0
 @createthemess: Sorry, man - I 'beat' you to your correction because the internet made me do it.
  • 2 0
 Ronan Dunne always looks among the best in every video clip, whether he's sticking wild lines or maintaining perfect composure where others struggle. He may become a top contender if he can link together his moments of brilliance.
  • 6 0
 Fin amazing first sector.... looks like down in sector 2 but could be a fun one to watch in finals !!
  • 1 0
 Reckon he'll be in the hotseat for a while
  • 7 1
 Elite women's live timing gaps are MONSTROUS.
  • 3 1
 Have to question how hard some of the protected riders are charging given the conditions. But aside from that, the gap is indeed huge.
  • 3 1
 Can't wait to not be able to watch the JR racers again tomorrow - what a huge mistake, missing out on the Jackson / Jordon rivalry - plus just getting to see more racing. Maybe Discovery will dip into that some next year. Redbull ain't perfect by any means, but not even showing an abbreviated top 3-5 of the JR mens/womens is aggravating.

That being said - still stoked for this weekends race just hoping it dries out. Snowshoe mud is something else - will add 2-3 lbs to your bike.
  • 3 0
 @mab411 for those in Elite Men/Women qualifying high means coverage on RedBull TV which is hugely advantageous to your sponsors and yourself!
  • 6 0
 Ya boy BK!!!
  • 2 1
 Jackson Goldstone is again as fast as the Elite riders ok this is only qualifying but he is 7 seconds ahead of the rest of the Junior pack... Does he get to do one Elite race before the end of the year? Because I don't think he has anything left to prove as a junior, he has the world championship title, he has the world cup wins, he has the speed and obviously, he now has the build to race as fast as elite riders... He has the team to compete at the sharp end of the field.
  • 5 0
 unfortunately, he has to grow up and go through some stages people do have to go through , and he should withstand this and keep winning.. like many others before him.. the test of the 20s ; )
  • 1 1
 If he blows the whole field away, does that qualify as racing an elite event?
  • 6 0
 CATHRO!!!!
  • 6 0
 Ronan LAAAAAD!
  • 3 0
 Sorta surprised more North American juniors (US, Canada, Mexico) did not show up.
Is the top level experience not worth the cost of a trip to WV?
  • 2 0
 11 Elite Men hail from USA, the highest they placed was 20th. Two of those riders DNFed.

In order to race in World Cup (outside of a registered team) I think you need to register through USA Cycling.

Dylan Conte and Max Morgan both look to be examples of guys who might have gotten in through the rather complicated non-team affiliated registration process.
  • 2 0
 @PHeller: Jake Kahn has a post on his instagram today semi-related to this...as he was hoping to race.
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 All show, no go?
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 Comparing America's best DH riders against the world on their home soil is a good indicator of just how high the level is right now. Mullalay, Shaw, Gwin, Dooley and Norton typically sweep most DH races in the states. Ervin, Driscoll, Morgan, Maples and Conte aren't slow either. Dooley just barely nabbed some points, in P20.

There are almost more Frenchmen in the top 20 than their are total Americans racing in Elite Men. It'd be interesting to see where a lot of French riders are training, their home tracks, and how much of the population is visiting those mountains. Whatever they are doing, it's churning out consistently fast riders.

To make matters worse, Mark Wallace was 14th, and the highest placed local (although from Canada) not counting Jackson, who I'm pretty sure is from outer space.
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 France has a mountain culture unlike anywhere else in the world (except maybe other countries in the Alps). Entire cities built in the mountains. Whole regions that thrive on mountain culture. The states and the rest of the world doesn't have that, we drive to go the mountains, then drive home. They have a huge chunk of the population living there.
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 @garretvs: Yes but mountain biking is way cheaper in France than in the US or Canada. MTB in BC is so expensive, way cheaper for me to get parts from Europe when i see my family.

Cheaper bikeparks with more technical trails, tight community too. Ppl from Europe are still recognizing when i bike in Whistler.

Also we have more competition in France and bike/parts are way cheaper.
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 @garretvs: I don’t think it’s that easy. Most of the top french (Pierron Bruni Vergier) don’t even come from big mountains. But for sure they have good home tracks. I think the system of club (association) was pretty good in France (good amount of support through the trainings, rivalry with plenty of others riders every week-end, some of them like Bruni or Daprela train really hard since younger age with coach like Nico Vouilloz ..)
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 @garretvs: Switzerland and Austria are surrounded by hills..... Shame they don't know how to ride them.
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 I don’t think it’s as simple as having the terrain close by. The point about Austria and Switzerland shows that. Also the UK has a lot of riders at a very high level and doesn’t have a single real mountain in the whole country. It’s a mystery really.
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 @Paco77: They go to Morzine for summer it is like Whistrelia with the Australians.
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 I REALLY am stoked to see results for the Pinkbike team. I want more content regarding team management!
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 Goldstone a top of the juniors and is currently second in pro men's. Let me guess a muddy track is faster in the morning?
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 ha ha ha ;-) Goldstone is o a roll
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 Probably less wind too!
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 It could be if the rain stopped and the loose mud turned more into peanut butter and was tracked onto the rocks without rain to wash it off.
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 The peanut butter was crunchier for Goldstone
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 His start time was about 12:30 in the afternoon. My theory is that he could see better because the sun was directly overhead so the shadows weren't as confusing as they were later when the adults took the track.
Plus, I think he's the smallest male racer, and I have a theory that small racers excel in the slop because their tires don't sink into the mud.
I have other theories, but they need a bit of work.
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 @Bibico: my theory is that he’s spent his entire life absolutely ripping bikes and is extremely proficient at it.
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 @owl-X: Well, that seems plausible....
If you've never seen it, GoPro posted a video on YT 7 years ago called "Jackson Goldstone - 10 Year Old MTB Shredder". Amazing how accurate your "theory" is.
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 @Bibico: My Own Research has unearthed something from 7 years before that, Jackson goes to kindergarten.

Dude’s been immersed in bike shredding for as long as anyone out there, he just started way earlier.

The progress possible at Whistler Bije Park is incredible: after a few days every summer I return to my local trails riding so much better, I can’t imagine what it’d be like growing up there…the current 10-year-olds are even better! It’s so sick.

Of course these are all theories, maybe Roblox is the real reason these kids are so good lol
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 @eball I really want to see it in Elite, when you see it with your own eyes you will change your mind.
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 BK all day!
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 Bernard killed it what was the next rider/manger placed
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 Ronan Dunne! Amazing ride. Amaury also with a stellar performance coming back from a huge one in Andorra. Stoked when Cathro gets in as always l!
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 Amaury what? Take frickin' breather man
  • 3 0
 Ben Cathro with a heater!
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 #makekirkfactoryagain
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 Cathro!!!
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 Dooley is pissed! First american!
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 Fair to say that the new Continental mud tire works pretty good?
  • 3 1
 I think when Jackson Goldstone makes his debut in men's elite he is going to win one before Finn Iles.
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 Jackson Goldstone looks every bit as quick as the top elite riders in the practice footage. He stood out as particularly comfortable with his bike sliding around in the PB&J.
  • 2 0
 Great to see Troy back up in the top area. Get some Troy. Represent RAdelaide.
  • 1 0
 Goldstone should really race with the men, like juniors used to do few years back, I would be so curious to see how he would handle the pressure of the main show
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 Laurie up top again. YESSSS
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 Are you from the future?
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 @pisgahgnar: ha-ha. My bad, I should have read the article properly instead of skimming.
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 Did Jordan Williams crash? 15 seconds off is big for those two this season.
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 Anybody know what happened with Chris Grice ?
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 Any idea what happened to Matt Walker in qualies? Hope he's good for tomorrow.
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 Man, Jackson Goldstone can be P2 in Elite Men Quali. Awesome junior, ready for elite next year
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 What happened to Jenna hastings ?
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 My guess is she just rolled through the start gate as a protected rider and would qualify. I think on her youtube (or Bernard Kerr's LSD) it looked like she had a stack in training yesterday and came out with a thumb or wrist injury. Take a look at their vlogs, always a lot of fun and insight into whats going on. We will find the truth out later today as they are great with daily vlogs, but thats my guess for now
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 @505443: Yep,from Bernard's LSD..."Well it was another wild day holding on in the mud here at snowshoe, with Jenna just rolling the gate to see how her thumb is tomorrow, Barney standing in a line washing my bike most the day and my best qualifying result to date in 3rd!"
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 @toph89: Yup, i follow some LSDs.

Jenna still got a good spot in finals.
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 @505443:
Such a honor to have you comment on one of my comments !
Such a honor to have you comment on one of my comments !
Such a honor to have you comment on one of my comments !

notbot
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 How many in each category qualify? What is the cutline?
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 Same question? Is this listed somewhere regularly, I didn't see on the UCI page?
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 @Gdg1: bottom of the start list. 60 elite men plus protected riders. If 4 protected riders finish out of the top 60 then 64 riders race. I think. Don’t quote me on that
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 @bgoldstone: Thanks for that! It is on the bottom of the startlist! So Tiegen, WeiTien (jr) and Jakob Jewett (sr) are both in the big show, but not Lucas C or Seth (boo). Sea2Sky kids doing well!
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 @ridingloam: lucas might squeak in
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 Cathro in the big show!
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 Only Pierron beat Goldstone. Very impressive!
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 Anyone know what happened to Walker?
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 Yeah broken knee cap and hand…huge bummer
www.instagram.com/p/CgnkPvzuvHj/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y
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 Jesus christ Goldstone letting the sparks fly 2nd overall today...
  • 1 0
 Cue Needles saying "it was a roll of the dice" on his podcast
  • 1 0
 Any news when Reece will be back!
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 Someone start lining up excuses for when Jackson gets 1st or second again. Track was worse, more wind, more rain, less rain, more mud, less mud, they added extra rocks I totally saw them bro etc etc.
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 Jackson has put down a 3.51! Very impressive.
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 Jacksoooooooooon!
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 the 1st Junior is second overall!? incredible!
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 Goldstone qualifies 2nd overall! Fucking wow!
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 is Grice Christopher running in Elite now? he wasn't in Junior? hop he is ok
  • 1 0
 GOLDstone!
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 Way to go Cathro!
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 Neko 26 let’s gooo
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 BERNARD
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 Wow, Jackson's time faster than Laurie's TT!!
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 @gnartar123: crap I read 3:41 not 3:51, need coffee!
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 @Bomadics: get some m8
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 @gnartar123: Ha already did, and I clicked your profile, your from Banff? I used to live up there.
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 @Bomadics: Yes moved out from Quebec 3 years ago, can't complain. Big mountains are fun Big Grin
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 @gnartar123: Yea, I used to work at Sunshine and Lake Louise and rode with the local DH race team.
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 @Bomadics: get a room
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 @Dogl0rd: Yes apologies to you for being polite, Dicklord oh sorry Dog.
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 @Bomadics:
apologizing for being polite is probably the most canadian it can get
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