The 2019 edition of the Red Bull Rampage is almost upon us so let's take a look at what the riders have been up to after the first few days of digging.
First dig day with the crew! Lots of rock to get through if we want this jump to work out mid mountain. Thankful to have the same crew with me as last year. Stoked to get back out there tomorrow morning to help out Andreu Lacondeguy work on some of our lower stuff.
Day2 here at Red Bull Rampage and pretty stoked on the build, the line is looking so good, stoked on building some more on the next days with such a crew
Rampage has been crazy this year. Building in a tapped-out zone has been challenging. Most of the ideal and obvious terrain has already been spoken for. We’re weaving between everyone else’s existing lines and having to be a bit more creative. My crew is killing it and it’s starting to come together.
Gettin’ it done with the team out here in the desert for Day 1, smashing rock and slappin’ dirt. Back out there for more today, just after another cup of coffee.
Day 4 update, was a very productive day, got our line nearly completed. Definitely ready for this rest day tomorrow, but getting stoked to start testing things out on Monday!
It was cruel for me to see what happened to the terrain in Utah last year: perfect, wide, smoothed highways and curves carved into the mountain! Yes, it's steep! But I hope the team that creates the most natural line and makes the most of the local conditions, will get an extra prize!
His score made it evident that his type of line just isn't credited by whatever improved judging criteria they're using. Hopefully they made some changes. Again.
Yeah, perfect wide and smoothed out highways which is why the best riders on the planet are scared to ride these lines.... must be because they're too perfect, wide and smoothed out....
You guys don’t understand how gnarly this is. If they didn’t pack it in then rampage would be 25 foot drops with no tricks and people will barley ride away. Then everyone would complain about how it’s not gnarly enough. This years terrain is not possible to ride down naturally.
@SimbaandHiggins: Yep- saw that last night.......Basically he tells people on Pinkbike who are saying everything is too groomed to shut up and come out here and look at it, ........
@SimbaandHiggins: Carson is a f-ing amazing rider and so good to watch...but he’s describing smoothing it out so he can manual a section like it’s a pump track. Which is cool, if that’s what it’s about.
The question is should rampage be a super big, exposed slopestyle event OR an old school free ride event? People have different opinions on that.
Personally I’d like to keep seeing both styles and see people getting good points for both.
@Rm344231: Rampage 2018 was about 1000x cooler than Rampage 2001.
I'd rather see a new Rampage 2018, but slightly gnarlier than see another Rampage 2001. The idea that somebody like Sorge throwing a huge backflip on a 60 foot gap on top of a huge ridge with insane certain death exposure on either side with the wind blowing isn't "as gnarly" as what they were doing in 2001 is ludicrous. Watch Zink and Straits chute and tell me that isn't gnarlier than anything ridden in the first 10 years of rampage.
This "blahblahblah slope sucks" attitude is ridiculous. The last few Rampages have been sphincter tightening bonkers.
@Altron5000: Its about progression and riders pushing themselves to their limits. In other words, its not about spectators' crappy opinions who have zero context.
Agreed, this isn't a Slopestyle competition, it's big mountain freeride competition. Keep it as natural and technical as possible, and no extra scoring for combo tricks.Once again it's not Slopestyle. Of course the odd flip etc.. and the Rampage wouldn't be the same without Straits suicide no hander, but trick after trick should be kept to a Slopestyle course.
Basically BRENDOG FOR THE WIN!! Last year his line was the most exciting to watch, and he still threw in a back flip.
Come on Redbull get it right.
I do think the term "natural" is used pretty loosely when it comes to rampage. Most of the lines are pretty buffed and many of the jumps and landings for the big drops are essentially built from scratch. I think "natural" at this point has just become a term that means built from or covered in dirt. A jump or landing that's built entirely of sandbags is not natural.
BUT.... that doesn't mean that its not still f*cking gnarly or awesome. Allowing more build time and the creation of these type lines has allowed the riders to do bigger and crazier things each year. No its not Rampage 2002, but that's OK. Things evolve.
Nobody is saying that slopestyle is lame - it's damn impressive and you're absolutely right I wouldn't attempt any of it. I think people just want to see better scoring for gnarly lines. Yes, all the lines are gnarly, but some are gnarlier than others whether that is through exposure, speed, gradient, etc. If Brendogs line had been scored higher everyone would be happier, even if he hadn't won... Perhaps the coverage could do a better job of conveying how the scores are calculated, with Cathro style analysis of the different chutes (etc) as to why one is more difficult than the other? (Get Cathro in!) One of the things I have always liked about Rampage is the variety of riders, such as Brendog or Atherton, because I like seeing their alternative styles. If they don't reward those riders with a respectable score why would they bother risking their careers/lives for the event? I personally believe the event is better for those alternatives...
@Rideuse67: He said 200mm fork so I'd assume that. Also he mentioned it had been custom tuned, I'd guess that means more progression and if it's a custom link, I'd also guess they bumped the travel up a bit over the stock 16t1mm.
@onemanarmy: They most definitely are not building new lines.
Agree it would be hard to be new, but I also like the "veteran advantage" of it not being your first year at such a crazy event. Also to make things easier on the new guys, often they do ride existing rider's lines after getting permission of course.
@tgent: New no. But they're all out there working their butts off improving/changing their lines. Building new elements. Example.... Reed's line didn't score that well. He's building a lot of new stuff.
Lol- people #seriously debated last year that if Dwayne The Rock would have gave BrenDawg a legit “shout out” on social media ......his score would have being 10-15 points higher and he would have podiumed __ just by virtue of Dwayne Johnson’s #clout
Video. 5:43. I really thought it was just noobs that leave their bikes in the middle of the trail and walk away. Shitty enough on standard trail. Absurd on cliffs.
Mabye someone can answer a question for me here. If the rampage stream starts at say ten o'clock my time, how long before the first rider drops? Like is there an hour of talking or 5 minutes? Odd question but trying to plan my viewing
I am loving all this Rampage info. DJ's video was really great as we got to know him and his crew, sort of.
Also gotta say horse with no name was a deadly pic.
Huge Porche fan but funny there is a 700 plus hp Jeep Helcat lcoming out that is faster. Want to see someone bust a 10 second 1/4 with a DH bike hitch rack.
@jorgeposada: you have to let go of the HP factor if you buy a Porsche, every half sporty common street car has as much HP as a Porsche (350+), you buy one for the whole childhood driving experience. And for us, can’t own one without another steed to haul the bikes unless you add racks!
But I hope the team that creates the most natural line and makes the most of the local conditions, will get an extra prize!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFAMHYtYNM4&t=152s
This is at minute 12:39 in the video.
The question is should rampage be a super big, exposed slopestyle event OR an old school free ride event? People have different opinions on that.
Personally I’d like to keep seeing both styles and see people getting good points for both.
I'd rather see a new Rampage 2018, but slightly gnarlier than see another Rampage 2001. The idea that somebody like Sorge throwing a huge backflip on a 60 foot gap on top of a huge ridge with insane certain death exposure on either side with the wind blowing isn't "as gnarly" as what they were doing in 2001 is ludicrous. Watch Zink and Straits chute and tell me that isn't gnarlier than anything ridden in the first 10 years of rampage.
This "blahblahblah slope sucks" attitude is ridiculous. The last few Rampages have been sphincter tightening bonkers.
Good lord
BUT.... that doesn't mean that its not still f*cking gnarly or awesome. Allowing more build time and the creation of these type lines has allowed the riders to do bigger and crazier things each year. No its not Rampage 2002, but that's OK. Things evolve.
If Brendogs line had been scored higher everyone would be happier, even if he hadn't won... Perhaps the coverage could do a better job of conveying how the scores are calculated, with Cathro style analysis of the different chutes (etc) as to why one is more difficult than the other? (Get Cathro in!)
One of the things I have always liked about Rampage is the variety of riders, such as Brendog or Atherton, because I like seeing their alternative styles. If they don't reward those riders with a respectable score why would they bother risking their careers/lives for the event? I personally believe the event is better for those alternatives...
Agree it would be hard to be new, but I also like the "veteran advantage" of it not being your first year at such a crazy event. Also to make things easier on the new guys, often they do ride existing rider's lines after getting permission of course.
Also Odub pick-axing to some Firestarter made my day.
Odd question but trying to plan my viewing