That’s pretty awesome but what about building his line ? Allways thought they were limited on time for building and practice? Although he probably doesn’t need a whole lot of time for practice sessions. Kinda of interesting seeing where his priorities are though, probably didn’t have much of a choice
@Crankhed: he’s been out there to plan the line and his team is working on building it. I don’t think they are allowed to ride yet so depending when he gets back he may not miss any practice time. It’s really just that his build team is down one guy (him).
Yea I eventually saw the comment under the photo about his build team being out there. The dudes living a dream for sure. I guess I’d of probably went too if i was in his shoes . What better way to hype a guy up than winning a rally before showing up for something like Rampage @sino428:
@Crankhed: Im bot bothered by it, he's done rampage for how long now? Shifted how much dirt? If he's got another event to compete in, then its cool that he can pay his dig crew to work.
Does seem a little unfair though as other riders will be more physically spent by the time the main event goes down.
@inside-plus: that’s the choice those riders have to make. Other riders could simply choose not to dig and let their dig teams handle too. If they would rather rest and work with one less set of hands during the build there is nothing stopping them from also doing that.
@inside-plus: Absolutely no advantage having less hands on the build, many hands make light work and there's no such thing as a light rampage build. They need all the help they can get
I wish we used SI measurements in the US. it's clearly the superior system. Unfortunately, it would be way too expensive to change at this point. All the road signs would need to be replaced, all the text books would need to be changed, etc. But it would be nice to not have to make so many conversions all the time.
@vinay: Well, the metre is defined by light, more specifically the distance light travels in a vacuum in1/299792458th of a second og ΔνCs; 299792458 m/s, therefore directly connected to a lightyear. Just multiply it up.
@megatryn: So, a lightyear is the same distance for everyone, regardless of metric system, isn't it? If you say a lightyear is an SI unit, what would be the imperial equivalent?
@jj12jj: Sweden even changed what side of the road they drive on. September 3rd 1967 they switched from left to right. The US can figure out how to switch to SI, we (the collective, not me) just don't want to.
Well a cubit is about the size of your forearm measuring from your elbow to the base of your hand.
I guess we can ask semenuk to take a measurement for us
@pisgahgnar: The Swedish still measure distances in Swedish miles. Which are metric miles, actually. Might be a nice middle ground for everyone to settle on.
It's been a while since I've read 1984 (Orwell) but wasn't there this discussion on how they switched to the metric system and didn't quite like it. At least they thought that a pint was just perfect for a beer and half a liter is just too much. Either way, if we switch to the metric system completely, the Pinkbike comment section will be alight. Measuring pressures in bar instead of psi might be doable, but measuring angles in gradians instead of degrees (as surely 100grad for a right angle instead of 90deg is easier to work with, isn't it) or just radians (as these make most sense) might turn geometry discussions in more of a mess than we've seen so far.
@jj12jj: but US is a poor country. Look at how many run down neighbourhoods are there. Did you know that 50% of US citizens don’t even have 400usd cash for ‘emergency situations’? maybe if you took money from the millionaires (which US have the most)…
If only there was a way to convert units with a 10 second internet search. Alas, I’m too lazy to do that so instead I’ll take 20 seconds to complain about it.
Imperial system is based on tangible things. In the 21st C that seems less relevant but there's something nice about a system that isnt obesessed with 10. Plus your fractions understanding is so much better (*coming from a mixed-system country)
@danielfloyd: I love how people are getting offended and downvoting your factual statement. But I disagree that’s the reason we haven’t switched over. If Biden can print money out of thin air, surely there’s a way to plan out a multi-year conversion to the metric system. Imagine if we didn’t have to deal with fractions in construction. That alone would be worth the trouble.
@gnarlysipes: I wonder how many døllaridoos are wasted each year as a direct cause of faulty calculations of fractions and conversions between imperial and SI? I bet it's not a few.
@megatryn: Too many. I make more bad cuts than I care to admit on my DIY projects because of fraction arithmetic. I just need to buy a metric tape measure.
I'd love to see the edition of Rampage won by a guy who hadn't done any trick, just choosed soooo f*ckin difficult and technical line with big gaps and drops but almost untouched, not groomed to become big skatepark for fullsus mtb bikes
They are paying them what they are worth. If the market decided they were worth more then someone would pay them more. This is a small scale event within a small scale sport. 20 riders in a desert is not a high value event to any sponsor
@lehott: At least its Merika and the case is a 24.....it is Utah though and that may complicate the EtOH per oz which is american for some unknown quantity of ml's. Suffice to say excellent compensation.
@CM999: People love to use "The Market" as an overarching statement, even if they have no idea how a market economy works and have never taken a single financial course in their life.
@holdandhope: Grow up and face reality. No one outside of a small part of the mountain biking community cares about this event. It’s really boring to watch live as the gaps between riders are too long. Therefore the value of the riders is limited to what sponsors think its worth and how many tins of drink RB think they sell off the back of this marketing stunt. If you were a sponsor why would you pay an uneconomic rate for the marketing you get from the event.
@CM999: you're clueless. This event produces video and photo that will be around for years, shared and watched by millions of non mtbers. And yhis event and otheres like it is the foundation of Red Bull's image being associated with badass action sports athletes, and allows them to sell millions of litres of caffeine soda for $3/can everyday.
@mtshakira: when I built twice they don’t pay the builders ANYTHING. The rider was responsible for paying their diggers expenses. THEY WOULDN’T EVEN GIVE THE DIG TEAM AN EVENT T-SHIRT. Can’t even make this up. #f*ckredbull
Pics and cutoff phone footage??Semenuk racing rally cars during Rampage dig days?? Sorge had sum good music at least but this coverage reminds me of a lame hoarse :dead hoarse:
Semenuk a True GOAT, winning a rally car championship and doing a logistical nightmare to still make it to Rampage-and having great friends to get started on his build. Impressive young man.
Yeah it’s crazy thinking about how relaxing rampage probably is for him after a pro rally race. Error margin probably feels huge on the bike while at the sketchiest event in mtb. No roll bar though..
At this site there are a lot of features that were machine built. Now riders can refurbish old machine built lines by hand. I believe this makes it the first year riders are making hand built lines with the aid of previously machine built features. Should be a very interesting rampage.
Does anyone know who is dropping in off the front of the starting hut? There is a near vertical landing built just below it. Maybe TVS doing a caveman off of it?
If I were in Brandon’s shoes ide be at the titi bar watching my boys dig on zoom. Till the jumps and landings were ready for my presence at the event. Yea.
Take away the rugged surroundings and the features are of the same kind as Audi Nines, Darkfest etc. Still amazingly impressive, but not the step outside the 'big hits and tricks' genre that it used to be.
This site is one of the exact locations as it "used to be", so not really sure what you think has changed. Yeah, there are a few groomed takeoffs & landings, but they're only showing the sections being built. They're riding down a 1,000 foot cliff with a few groomed hits scattered in. Getting down the hill from the start zone is way gnarlier than any big jump line with the exception of Hardline. I like them all, but giant, groomed booters are far less technically challenging than any Rampage run.
Yes just the early part. You will see much more coverage starting this week once the media is let in. Right now all we have is what the riders are putting out themselves.
finally some rampage content but everyone with instagram has already seen that
you lazy, pinkbike, give us photoepics, bike checks, line rumours, all that!
@nikifor88: at least we get to listen to all of pinkbike complain about the sickest mtb event of the year. Why are you people so worked up? Just enjoy the show.
If your so inclined to show these pros what freeride really is all about then why don’t you and your keyboard warriors go qualify for rampage and show em who’s boss
@NoahJ: So the only way someone can have an opinion or knowledge on a subject is to master it? I don't have a pilot license but if I see a helicopter in a tree I'm calling it a crash.
@MTBfloat: you can have your opinion but don't try to belittle what these guys are doing. Im so sick of people saying that rampage isn't as gnarly as it used to be or any thing like that, its just as or more gnarly than it was before. These riders, who are absolutely insane and have put in WORK are building and riding what they want to. All im saying is that if you want to see a difference go do it yourself instead of complaining and belittling these super amazing human beings.
@Roost66: that was also everyone else’s choice. No rider is forced to dig their own line. They could all leave the building to their dig team if they want too.
Much of the land surrounding Virgin isn't. It has been exploited by many generations of much less scrupulous mining concerns. Mother nature bats last. Utah isn't the Amazon - that shit is felony vandalism.
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Does seem a little unfair though as other riders will be more physically spent by the time the main event goes down.
kay
It's been a while since I've read 1984 (Orwell) but wasn't there this discussion on how they switched to the metric system and didn't quite like it. At least they thought that a pint was just perfect for a beer and half a liter is just too much. Either way, if we switch to the metric system completely, the Pinkbike comment section will be alight. Measuring pressures in bar instead of psi might be doable, but measuring angles in gradians instead of degrees (as surely 100grad for a right angle instead of 90deg is easier to work with, isn't it) or just radians (as these make most sense) might turn geometry discussions in more of a mess than we've seen so far.
Plus your fractions understanding is so much better
(*coming from a mixed-system country)
Yea.
I like them all, but giant, groomed booters are far less technically challenging than any Rampage run.
Kidding. So much respect for how gnarly these riders are and for the work they put in.
wazzup PB peebles??
What is bikeparks and slopes building then?
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