Amaury Pierron could not have asked for more from during the weekend’s racing in Lenzerheide. The Frenchman was the fastest qualifier for the men’s race and found even more speed in his finals run to take the win. That’s now three victories out of the four downhill World Cup rounds (Lourdes, Fort William and Lenzerheide) that have taken place this season.—Red Bull Bike
Interesting to see that both Finn and Amaury are both looking like some of the most muscular guys out there and their performance seems to track their physical condition.
Strong upper body in something Like dh would be critical allowing you to muscle through or throw over things that physically weaker people can’t… or at least without having to dig deep when they are tired.
Also reflects commitment to conditioning regardless good to see the talented guys clearly putting in work and getting results
@Korbi777: Minaar is interesting because he is a completely different approach from a lot of pros. I once heard an interview with him where he basically said "I don't do big sets at the gym like the other guys, I focus more on mobility and stability". I think I also heard he runs a larger bike and wider bars, but do't quote me on that.
To me it sounds like he knows that at 40 he can't out muscle a 25 year old, but he has been racing WC since they were little kids, so he is focusing on being smooth and controlled.
@Mikevdv: having a strong upper body also allows you to run a stiffer suspension up front and not end up as fatigued as a result. Also look at BMX racers and Track Sprinters those guys are monsters and DH from a physical standpoint is a more "endurance" form of those sports with rocks and roots thrown in the mix. Unlike a lot of other cycling disciplines where it's all about your watts to kilos ratio. Extra kilos don't hurt in DH, especially if those kilos are from muscle. Look at Richie Rude, he's built like a collegiate wrestler.
@Mikevdv: Mind you Amaury is 5'10”, Finn is 5'11". Off the top of my head, guys like Brook Macdonald and Mick Hannah are easily more muscular. Shit, Brook is like 5'6" and weighs just about the same as Amaury (if the internet is to be trusted).
If there's any gift Amaury has over the rest of the field, it probably isn't fitness- they're all crazy athletic by now. However, that fitness combined with a very long wingspan (as far as I can tell) and inseam seems to be giving him a bit more "body suspension" than other guys around his height.
@ryanandrewrogers: his suspension is run much stiffer than most, and he's strong enough to handle it. His bike never gets hung up in the bomb holes that other riders struggle with....
Finn only had 10 rides on his new proto-Spesh....pretty good outing I'd say. Amaury has had his bike dialed in all year. But yes - Amaury is near unbeatable when he's ON.
@harryhood: the extra kgs don't slow you down, although they can hurt the bike. Definitely a balance, I do think a taller rider can use their length and mobility to smooth out more but it would be easier for them to start breaking stuff if they focus on strength. A smaller rider can put on percentagely more mass without starting to reach material limits. Definitely think you need to play to your strengths
Really? Man I struggle to believe Amaury is 5'10", I thought he was way taller. I do believe that he absolutely throws down in the gym though. He looks like someone who has a naturally slender build who has turned themselves into a monster. Particularly since his injuries it seems like he's built back stronger than ever.
@wingguy: Honestly, when I saw his height listed I had to do a triple take. He's definitely gotten pretty yoked and very, very lean, dude has the body fat index of a triathlete. I think he simply appears taller because of that naturally slender long-limbed build. I gotta find out this guy's ape index I bet it's crazy, he looks built to speed-climb
The taping of this track is driving me bananas. There's a corner with a pole at the apex. That one area just before the finish makes me want to throw up.
@Istillneedstabilisers: Yeah, insane. Hard to find accurate info on the track (DH pros don't use Strava I guess). 2.2km length (quoted in the pinkbike primer article) would still mean over 47 km/h average. Nuts.
@jokermtb: Because GOAT stands for Greatest Of All Time. Amaury has won nine WCs and no World Champs. Compare that with Minnaar, who has won 22 WCs and 4 World Champs. By definition there can only be one GOAT, so that's why.
@Whataboutism: im not upset about the fact the racist shitheel is french, I am upset he is a racist shitheel and everyone including yourself seems to give him a pass because he is fast. lol
@conoat: This has been rehashed before, but please tell me how you know he is a racist shitheel. Is this from the IG post or do you have experience personally with him that led you to your conclusion? I give him a pass because I don't know the person and his post on the internet does not lead me to enough info to label someone a racist. If there are a bunch more of his posts or other info I would love to see it and reconsider my view, but the mob of Insta isn't going to sway my judgement on someone from one distasteful post.
@Whataboutism: it is from that IG post, but I also understand that it wasn't just distasteful....it was horrifyling tone deaf, callous, dismissive, racist at it's core. I am not anything resembling a member of the woke ig mob, mind you. I genuinely never assume racism from much of anything, but when something is so obvious, it would be pure ignorance not to give it some serious consideration.
then, instead of owning it, he just deleted it and posted the most incredibly retarded post that simply hand waved at the original. This and his PR manager doing something similar kind of said the quiet part out loud....and that was that they didn't, and likely still do not, think there was anything wrong with it. You have to be a world class narcissist and have some deeply held racist(although I am sure he doesn't think he is) views to not find issue with it even after it has been explained to you.
@conoat: So when ryanthelyon posted this in the pb post about the IG..." This doesn't bother me a bit and changes nothing on how I view the guy. It's a song, it's sounds we make with our mouth. I don't think the guy is racist or stupid and wish people weren't made to plead apologies in an attempt to save face from something they didn't even intend in a negative or derogatory way."
and this from ryanthelyon:
Nope, I read the whole thing and came to this conclusion as a mixed a american with a black father. I experienced all sorts of real racism growing up in Tennessee and this isn't it. I don't believe in bad words, I look for context.
I am going to put the internet down right now for the day, because you made my day and I don't want some f*cktard to come along and screech about oppression and whiteness, and have my mood go to shit. Have a good day, sir!
Seems a bit confusing to me. (its a slow day so I decided to go back and look at AP's post and the drivel that is the comments section)
so at first it was ok, now he is a racist shitheel?
@Whataboutism: oh, so your point is we should all make our minds up based on some randos take on what a different someone said? what the f*ck are you even on about right now?
so let me get this straight, just so everyone is clear: you think a random black guy saying what AP said isn't racism to him, means AP is 100% clear because the black PB caucus has cleared him? do you want to f*cking take about 4 brain cells, rub them together vigorously, and try to come up with the very next extrapolation to your completely moronic take, would be?????
@Whataboutism: at what point did I say or even allude to that? or is that a construct of your idea that the French are racist by default, and thus, if you dislike racists, you hate all French people?
@conoat: I’m a fan of Amaury’s racing. He is a great racer. I don’t know him as a person so I’m not going to judge him and read into his post with such certainty that he his a racist shitheel. But you clearly know all. So you do.
@Whataboutism: Hitler had some decent paintings.....
obvious absurd joke.
Amaury is a dick.....there's a great sticker on my beer cooler that summarizes my view on the matter that says "If you are really fast, but you act like an a*shole....who cares if you are fast?"
Strong upper body in something Like dh would be critical allowing you to muscle through or throw over things that physically weaker people can’t… or at least without having to dig deep when they are tired.
Also reflects commitment to conditioning regardless good to see the talented guys clearly putting in work and getting results
To me it sounds like he knows that at 40 he can't out muscle a 25 year old, but he has been racing WC since they were little kids, so he is focusing on being smooth and controlled.
Also look at BMX racers and Track Sprinters those guys are monsters and DH from a physical standpoint is a more "endurance" form of those sports with rocks and roots thrown in the mix. Unlike a lot of other cycling disciplines where it's all about your watts to kilos ratio. Extra kilos don't hurt in DH, especially if those kilos are from muscle.
Look at Richie Rude, he's built like a collegiate wrestler.
If there's any gift Amaury has over the rest of the field, it probably isn't fitness- they're all crazy athletic by now. However, that fitness combined with a very long wingspan (as far as I can tell) and inseam seems to be giving him a bit more "body suspension" than other guys around his height.
A smaller rider can put on percentagely more mass without starting to reach material limits. Definitely think you need to play to your strengths
Really? Man I struggle to believe Amaury is 5'10", I thought he was way taller. I do believe that he absolutely throws down in the gym though. He looks like someone who has a naturally slender build who has turned themselves into a monster. Particularly since his injuries it seems like he's built back stronger than ever.
That was fast. Really tricky with the light conditions.
Good on Finn, he also had a great run but the respect for Amaury’s run was awesome.
Need a /s at the end just to remove any doubt for those who are clearly blind to it.
"10 seconds... 5.."
then, instead of owning it, he just deleted it and posted the most incredibly retarded post that simply hand waved at the original. This and his PR manager doing something similar kind of said the quiet part out loud....and that was that they didn't, and likely still do not, think there was anything wrong with it. You have to be a world class narcissist and have some deeply held racist(although I am sure he doesn't think he is) views to not find issue with it even after it has been explained to you.
so, again.....shitheel.
and this from ryanthelyon:
Nope, I read the whole thing and came to this conclusion as a mixed a
american with a black father. I experienced all sorts of real racism growing up in Tennessee and this isn't it. I don't believe in bad words, I look for context.
then you posted this
@ryanthelyon: right here. this is how it is done.
I am going to put the internet down right now for the day, because you made my day and I don't want some f*cktard to come along and screech about oppression and whiteness, and have my mood go to shit. Have a good day, sir!
Seems a bit confusing to me. (its a slow day so I decided to go back and look at AP's post and the drivel that is the comments section)
so at first it was ok, now he is a racist shitheel?
so let me get this straight, just so everyone is clear: you think a random black guy saying what AP said isn't racism to him, means AP is 100% clear because the black PB caucus has cleared him? do you want to f*cking take about 4 brain cells, rub them together vigorously, and try to come up with the very next extrapolation to your completely moronic take, would be?????
jesus jumped up christ dude.....
please elaborate to the best of your ability.
this should be a f*cking hoot
obvious absurd joke.
Amaury is a dick.....there's a great sticker on my beer cooler that summarizes my view on the matter
that says "If you are really fast, but you act like an a*shole....who cares if you are fast?"
Not all of the greats are altruistic. Are you new to racing?
I’m not here to argue where he’s deserved of being called “one of the greats”