Round two of the UCI Mountain Bike Enduro World Cup in Derby was one for the history books.
The Tasmanian crowds turned out in force to see the world's best throw down on Derby's iconic rock slabs in some absolutely wild conditions.— UCI Mountain Bike World Series
I should note we have an absolutely fantastic team of 4 camera operators and an amazing producer. And Ric kills it with the VO! Bring on the rest of the year
Yeah these last two were great, keep it up! Also way to go PB on no having any spoilers. I can visit the site for other stuff but keep the suspense for race results until I watch the vid.
Also, the side by sides are really good!
Video footage is better, but commentary is a trainwreck. Am with those who find Ric's accent a major impediment to comprehension and enjoyment of racing narrative. Claudio's pronunciation is better, and English is what, his third or fourth language?
@BergMann: it's time to learn another language for you I think then... If the ones we learned English after our 20s from our native countries can easily understand him.. how the heck is not possible for native English speakers...
@PauRexs: Nice try. You may be satisfied understanding just 90% of what Ric says, but most native speakers will not be. That is the entire point: creating coverage of the sport that new viewers cannot even understand is going to have them grabbing the remote or mouse & heading straight for another channel. I can read Shakespeare's Elizabethan English, Chaucer's Middle English, plus German, Spanish, & French, and am willing to work for comprehension where I must. The problem w/ Ric's dialect is that he garbles words by suppressing vowels, creating confusion where 99% of other native speakers would have enunciated enough to be easily understood. Rob Warner's Reading dialect is hardly proper King's English, but in over a decade, I've never misunderstood the name of a place, trail, or feature while he was announcing. In just the single broadcast above, Ric created more WTF moments than I'm willing to go back and count: I simply gave up rewinding to relisten after the 9th or 10th time he garbled something that could not be intuited by context. If this is his effect on core fans of the sport, there will be no casual new fans joining us.
@BergMann: Out of interest, are there any specific words or phrases that you weren't able to understand that come to mind? Just curious really, I've never found him hard to understand but English is my first language and I've spent some time up in Scotland before which does help.
If only there was tech that made the commentary intelligible to someone who isn't from Northern Ireland. I've worked and lived with dozens of folks from UK, and find most accents from most of the Commonwealth easy to follow, but Discovery choses someone who manages to mangle every proper noun beyond recognition? *Note to UCI, Disco, Shimano & Co: coverage with garbled, provincial voiceover will NOT grow this sport.* Extending the length of coverage is great, but you've chosen the wrong voice. If we can't have Warner back, how about Cathro or Wyn? Or even @henryquinney?
@mtbcrosscountry-com: You need to be aware that XC in Chech Republic can easily be enduro for others. Every visit in Rychleby leaves nothing but great respect for them, all families use simple bikes to ride gnarly stuff.
@lkubica: I am from there but I wouldn't agree, we do have rychleby etc, but so do other countries have their parks... she's is decent outlier to be competitive on elite level in both even though more so in enduro as she has proven now
Love to see the kiwi lads showing their presence in the top ten. Bradley Harris, what a ride on stage 3!! Can't wait to have Cole Lucas back for the next round. And the ladies did well holding it together in the challenging conditions.
Surely a kiwi round win is on the cards this season.
@iamamodel: Nope - fully legal, full EMS and Sheriff support, too. Not the most challenging courses but in the redwoods and nearly 300 racers with a pro chipped timing system. Men's cats sold out in 2 days.
EDIT - Not an April Fools joke although it sounds like one.
@suspended-flesh: Sounds like a dream. It was very restricted when I was there 2006 to 2009. Boyscout and China Camp (15 mph!) were about the only singletrack. In Marin we'd send one person down the tracks such as those named after coins and they'd call when they got to the bottom. If there was no call, we'd know he'd been busted and we'd chip in for the fine.
@iamamodel: Oh Marin still sucks beyond belief as far as access goes - this isn't some kind of sea change, but more like a rogue wave. I worked the event just for the novelty aspect and it was very well done and fun for all except for the one broken leg I am aware of. I left out the fact that the event was on private property that allows MTBs year round (Tamarancho) because it goes without saying that the FootPeople would never let this happen on THEIR (and their horse's) trails.
@evanwoodard: Yep and I just heard it's happening every year going forward now. Not directed at you, but I'm hearing from ppl that podium'd that it was the best race ever and from those who didn't that is was too XC. Normal reactions just sayin.
I was really impressed with Barbora Prudkova's performance in this race. It's exciting to see a talented XC rider transitioning to enduro and making such an impact.
Such a shame this wasn't aired live. Could have been done with drones, a few cameras and helmet cams. With ease this could have been as exiting as a dh World Cup.
would be great but it wont happen soon. redbull had best drone live broadcast tech available , and still way poorer quality than broadcast cameras , article was in rampage comments. redbull had up to 50 staff for 1 track. today at least 3 tracks had pro men and pro women at one time. if it can be done with an appropriate budget for this level of audience engagement, ,please tell me how.
@CleanZine: your imagination is nicer than mine. I was imagining some don't look up scenario. with 50kg multirotor, multicamera movie drones. flying 50kmh between trees, 2 meters away from the spectators. with multiple helicopters above receiving the feed through the trees, flying for 6 hours a day each, in all weather conditions, burning a bike Tyres worth of gas a minute each. I think my coverage would need a parental rating and a hug after watching it.
Why is my wishes "below treshold"? Am I saying something bad by wanting to watch more Enduro, or are PB serving UCI-interest? I would sincerely like to know what is so "outrageous" about my comments. Love enduro and dh.
@Endurip: I think it probably comes down to two things. Firstly, every post about enduro has comments about live replays. It's clear it's not happening any time soon, so seeing different people saying the same thing gets old. Secondly, the comment about it being possible "with ease" is fundamentally wrong.
A few reasons in no particular order why that's the case:
- Some stages are over 10mins long. With 30sec gaps you can have the whole top 10 on course for 5mins simultaneously. How do you cover that properly? They couldn't even solve that in a satisfactory way in DH despite having a way "easier"/much more contained course to cover.
- Riders can be out for 6+hrs. Who is going to watch a 6+hr stream?
- Some of the liaisons can be an hour long. Who's going to watch them?
- Some riders have vlogs based just on GoPro footage. If the organisers have to make them wear cameras to stream it live, the ownership of that footage becomes much more problematic. We're going to see this play out in DH this year.
- With DH, they miss out key parts of tracks almost every week. How did Reece Wilson manage to win Worlds in the woods? We'll never know. That's on a much shorter, single track with a bigger budget and years of experience. They haven't solved that for DH, which is the easier one to solve. How do you work out the key sections for enduro when there can be multiple key sections in each stage, with 5-6 stages per race?
- It takes time to move all your camera operators from stage to stage, and realistically in more remote locations that isn't going to be possible while covering everything live. As you can see in the current coverage they have to limit the camera positions per stage to make it happen, and they have in the past missed some key things because of the time it takes to move people and equipment around.
These reasons aren't even touching on money, resources, limited internet in some locations, etc... It's just not viable, and won't be any time soon. I love watching enduro and would like to see more of it, but it's just not realistic unless there's a huge change in budget, camera tech, internet connectivity and probably format too. I'd rather have longer, wilder courses without full live coverage than shorter "coverage friendly" courses just to make it happen. Again, we're going to see this play out in DH.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying this to be harsh or anything, just putting some ideas out there.
@CleanZine: Not saying you are completely wrong but since a YouTube like Nate Hills can live stream his own ride in the middle of nowhere all by himselves with a drone and go-pro shoves its not only possible but also don't need to cost a fortune. What I mean by live-broadcast is nothing really fancy. I understand that you cannot film the entire course. But I bet most people would be satisfied with some drones, go pro and a presenter that repors and analyses everything between (what the cameras can't show). Just seeing the love the crowd att the resent two events showed would be something to show a lot more of, and would make great tv between the racing reports.
And, don't forget that Chris Ball promised that Enduro should be much more accessible live than before. But then mentioned nothing and so far nothings really improved.
@ BergMann: Totally agree.
Really impressed with Sławek ride on top level!
Zapiedzielaj tak dalej Łukaśik!!!
Erice time was good for 16th in elite women!!
Xanthe was 2nd after stage 5 but flatted on 6 to get 4th
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EDIT - Not an April Fools joke although it sounds like one.
I would sincerely like to know what is so "outrageous" about my comments. Love enduro and dh.
A few reasons in no particular order why that's the case:
- Some stages are over 10mins long. With 30sec gaps you can have the whole top 10 on course for 5mins simultaneously. How do you cover that properly? They couldn't even solve that in a satisfactory way in DH despite having a way "easier"/much more contained course to cover.
- Riders can be out for 6+hrs. Who is going to watch a 6+hr stream?
- Some of the liaisons can be an hour long. Who's going to watch them?
- Some riders have vlogs based just on GoPro footage. If the organisers have to make them wear cameras to stream it live, the ownership of that footage becomes much more problematic. We're going to see this play out in DH this year.
- With DH, they miss out key parts of tracks almost every week. How did Reece Wilson manage to win Worlds in the woods? We'll never know. That's on a much shorter, single track with a bigger budget and years of experience. They haven't solved that for DH, which is the easier one to solve. How do you work out the key sections for enduro when there can be multiple key sections in each stage, with 5-6 stages per race?
- It takes time to move all your camera operators from stage to stage, and realistically in more remote locations that isn't going to be possible while covering everything live. As you can see in the current coverage they have to limit the camera positions per stage to make it happen, and they have in the past missed some key things because of the time it takes to move people and equipment around.
These reasons aren't even touching on money, resources, limited internet in some locations, etc... It's just not viable, and won't be any time soon. I love watching enduro and would like to see more of it, but it's just not realistic unless there's a huge change in budget, camera tech, internet connectivity and probably format too. I'd rather have longer, wilder courses without full live coverage than shorter "coverage friendly" courses just to make it happen. Again, we're going to see this play out in DH.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying this to be harsh or anything, just putting some ideas out there.
Just seeing the love the crowd att the resent two events showed would be something to show a lot more of, and would make great tv between the racing reports.
And, don't forget that Chris Ball promised that Enduro should be much more accessible live than before. But then mentioned nothing and so far nothings really improved.